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Topic: ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops. - page 3. (Read 16573 times)

legendary
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February 13, 2019, 11:35:42 AM
^^^ The cop-shop is doing an internal briefing to its people about what to say and do if they are questioned about the incident in the above post. But they aren't letting the media cover it, 'cause the way they are going about it is illegal.


Abuse of Force: ABC15 confronts Glendale police about no-camera briefing



GLENDALE, AZ — Glendale police refused to let cameras inside to record a briefing where officials promised they would share everything with the media surrounding repeated use of force by its officers in a 2017 traffic stop.

"This is a full information briefing. We're going to give you all the information on recording once you guys leave," a police official, who did not identify himself, told reporters gathered outside the department's training facility Monday afternoon.

When pressed about why the public would not be able to hear directly from the police themselves, officials indicated that they would tell the media and then the media would inform the public.

Reporters were let into the building around 4:30 p.m. The briefing, which was originally scheduled for 2:30 p.m., was postponed Monday afternoon to 4 p.m.

A small group of protesters also gathered at the Glendale Police Headquarters during a 4 p.m rally. Hundreds of comments have been left on a thread about the protest that was posted to Glendale Police Department's Facebook page.


Check out the videos in both posts, this one and the above.


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legendary
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February 13, 2019, 11:26:27 AM
Glendale police used the excuse of a turn signal infraction to ask for ID. ID request in AZ is not legal to do without a reason. The guy didn't have an ID, so cops elevated nothing to something by tazing the heck out of the guy. Now there is a court action with famed Mark Victor as the attorney.


Glendale police offer few answers for 2017 stun gun tactics that led to federal lawsuit



What happened during the incident

Wheatcroft and Chapman were parked outside a Motel 6 in downtown Glendale with their two minor children and a family friend after they were stopped in traffic by Schneider and Lindsey on July 26, 2017. The car was pulled over for a traffic violation.

Wheatcroft, who was in the front-passenger seat, refused the officer's requests to provide his driver's license and asked why he needed to identify himself.

The body-camera footage then shows one of the officers pulling Wheatcroft from the car, twisting his right arm while the seat belt was still engaged. One of the officers can be heard threatening to shock Wheatcroft. Wheatcroft repeatedly yells that he hasn't done anything wrong.

As he is partway out of the vehicle, the seat belt still tangled around him,police begin using the stun guns repeatedly as he is pulled onto the ground.





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legendary
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February 10, 2019, 03:58:10 AM
ISIS acts as ISIS does because that's the way they are supposed to act.

Cops in Arizona are forbidden by Arizona law from asking for ID without a reason. The turn signal thing was simply an excuse to make people think that they had a reason.

In other words, ISIS is law abiding because they do what they are lawfully meant to do... terrorize.

Cops are worse than ISIS because they terrorize when they are strictly forbidden from terrorizing, but they do it anyway.

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February 10, 2019, 02:22:10 AM
Sorry but you cannot compare terrorists with any Department that is under constitution. ISIS is bloody people who dont have any law and they want same thing to happen all over the world. Still those cops who goes against the law of land are punishable. You find such in ISIS?

Stop blaming whole Dept just bcoz of few events. Such cops should be punished and even hanged. But we would never call ISIS instead of cops for help..
legendary
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February 07, 2019, 02:46:58 PM
This is what it's really like, and it could happen to you, for nothing, just like it happened to these people, for nothing.


The real reason 4 cops got shot in Houston last week



    We are sick and tired of having dirtbags try to take our lives when all we are trying to do is protect this community and protect our families…

    Well just know, we all got your number now.

    We are going to be keeping track of all of ya’ll, and we’re going to make sure we hold you accountable. Every time you stir the pot on our police officers. We’ve had enough, folks.

    We’re out there doing our jobs every day, putting our lives on the line for our families. Enough is enough. Now please, keep these officers in your prayers.



That was the Houston Police Officer’s Union President Joe Gimaldi.

He made the comments after 5 cops were injured while serving a warrant.

He thinks that rhetoric critical of police officers is responsible for, what he claims is an increase in police being targeted.

All the headlines would have you believe these cops were ambushed, attacked just for being cops while minding their own business.

But when you look deeper at the case, you realize these cops didn’t get shot because of anti-police rhetoric.

They got shot because they invaded an innocent couple’s home without announcing themselves.

...

Cops murdered this couple, for nothing.


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legendary
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December 12, 2018, 08:13:52 PM
Now, this is the way ISIS should be. So, cops really ARE way worse.


When Cops Respond to Noise Complaint About Friends Playing New Nintendo...



Instead of ruining the fun for a couple of friends who were enjoying the new Nintendo video game, two police officers accepted their offer to join in.

Jovante Williams had been playing the newly-released "Super Smash Brothers Ultimate" game at his friend's apartment in Minneapolis, Minnesota when they heard a knock at the door.

Local police officers had been called to the apartment based on a noise complaint from a neighbor. Since Williams says that the actual source of the noise was coming from somewhere else in the apartment complex's hallway, however, the cops left.

The officers returned several more times to make sure that the noise wasn't too loud, until finally, Williams's friend told the squad they they were simply drinking beers and playing Smash.

When one of the officers asked "what is smash?", Williams asked them if they wanted to play.

Two of the cops immediately accepted the offer and sat down for a few rounds. Amidst everyone sharing some good-natured banter, Williams says that he jokingly told one of the cops: "Just don't fine me if I beat you."

When asked who won the games, Williams replied: "We did. But they were pretty good [and] one of them was sick with Pikachu."

Williams posted a video of the exchange to Reddit where it was upvoted thousands of times, much to his delight.

"Ultimately (badum-tssh), [I'm] just super happy to post wholesome content and have it go a li'l viral for the world to watch," he wrote in a comment.


Cops are way worse.


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legendary
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December 07, 2018, 06:42:44 PM
The answer is to take the man, not the cop, and his bond, to Federal District Court in common law. Federal District Court is a court where the magistrate (judge) is separate from the tribunal (accuser, accused, jury). When you beat his bond in this court (as well as the man, of course), he loses his job forever, because no bonding agent will ever bond him again. Remember, the jury has the right and duty to judge both facts and law. They can declare a law null and void in a particular case. To get their sympathy for a guilty verdict against cops, they need to be shown that it could have been them the cops mistreated.


When Nonviolence Isn't Enough



In August 2017, Richard Hubbard III stopped at a red light in Euclid, Ohio, but his front bumper went a few feet past the white line. The cops pulled him over. That's no surprise: Police in Euclid, Cleveland Heights, and the surrounding cash-strapped towns strictly enforce traffic rules. But officers didn't just give the driver a ticket.

The police demanded Hubbard—a black man—step out of his vehicle. Dashcam footage shows that he calmly complied. Yet one officer immediately spun Hubbard around, bent his arm, and slammed him against his Hyundai. He flipped Hubbard again, punched him in the face, and kicked his groin. Hubbard screamed and put his arms up to protect himself. The other officer joined in.

They threw Hubbard to the ground but continued to punch, hammer, and kick him. When he tried to protect his face, they chanted the informal motto of American police, "Stop resisting!" Even when Hubbard was subdued, prostrate with his hands behind his back and two large officers pinning him down, one officer continued to pummel his skull.

Imagine you witness the whole thing. A thought occurs to you: You're armed. You could shoot the officers, perhaps saving Hubbard's life or preventing him from being maimed and disabled. May you do so?

Below, I defend a controversial answer: Yes, you may.


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legendary
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December 07, 2018, 06:31:40 PM
Average people in the USA do not want ISIS to be supported by the U.S.  And most of them don't know that it is. Because of this, the U.S. supporters of ISIS are simply people in the U.S. government, actually stepping outside of their authority. But there is no way to stop them that is readily known (except, perhaps one, that I am not going to elaborate on here).

So, it is not really the U.S. that is supporting ISIS. Talking like that is propaganda being used to mess with the minds of honest people being attacked by ISIS in the ME, and by cops in America.

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December 06, 2018, 12:28:16 PM
When I heard ISIS it is back up by U.S, I remembered that here in my country, some of the place we have here has been attacked by the terrorist people and the government find out in the end that behind the war it was ISIS who supported that terrorist, according to the news we had it in here. Which means that ISIS was not a good people.
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December 06, 2018, 02:39:54 AM
I'm not supporting ISIS(they all are bastards) but they do fight against the Russian army, U.S army, Syrian army, and Iraq Army. And the cops well they fight against "the n word" people and Mexicans drug dealers.
legendary
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November 13, 2018, 03:43:48 PM
Look at what happened Sunday.

Hero Security Guard Stops Mass Shooting and is Killed by Cops Who Showed Up After it Was Over



A hero security guard stopped a mass shooting with his legal gun, saving an untold number of lives and was holding the suspect at gunpoint when police showed up and killed him.

Robbins, IL — Early Sunday morning, a tragedy took place in Illinois after a hero security guard stopped what was quickly becoming a deadly mass shooting, only to be shot by police moments later. Jemel Roberson, 26, was working security at Manny's Blue Room Sunday morning when his heroism got him killed.

The incident began after multiple individuals were asked to leave the bar for being unruly. Witnesses say all the men left and then returned and one came back in with a gun opening fire into the bar. As everyone else ran for cover, Roberson according to witnesses, engaged the shooter with his own gun.

Roberson then apprehended one of the men involved in the shooting and held him at gunpoint as the police showed up. Four people had been shot, but thanks to Roberson, no one else was hit, and those four people were transported to a local hospital and treated for their injuries. Sadly, Roberson would not be so lucky.

At around 4 a.m., police officers from multiple suburban departments responded to the call of shots fired. When they arrived, Roberson was holding one of the men on the ground so he could be apprehended by police.

"He had somebody on the ground with his knee in back, with his gun in his back like, 'Don't move,'" witness Adam Harris said.

"Everybody was screaming out, 'he was a security guard,' and they basically saw a black man with a gun and killed him," witness Harris tells WGN TV.

Roberson—who was licensed to carry a firearm—and is a father of a 9-month-old boy, saved an untold number of lives that night only to be gunned down shortly after.

"A Midlothian officer encountered a subject with a gun and was involved in an officer-involved shooting. The subject the officer shot was later pronounced deceased at an area hospital," Chief Daniel Delaney of the Midlothian Police Department said in a statement.

Adding to the irresponsible nature of the shooting is the fact that an attorney for the family noted that Roberson was actually wearing security attire and had a hat on with "security" emblazoned across the front.

According to the AP, charges were pending against the man who investigators believe fired the initial shots during a dispute. His name has yet to be released, and he remained hospitalized Monday, Cook County sheriff's spokeswoman Sophia Ansari said.

As the AP reports:

Attorney Gregory Kulis filed a civil rights lawsuit seeking more than $1 million on behalf of Roberson's mother, Beatrice Roberson. He said Jemel Roberson was dressed in black but wearing a hat with the word "security" when he was shot.

Kulis also echoed witness reports that Roberson was holding down another man outside the bar when the officer arrived and shot him.


I have an old, local newspaper that has an article about the stress that cops are under. We need to get rid of cops. They have a "shoot first, ask questions later" attitude. They are more dangerous than the bad guys on the street.


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November 05, 2018, 04:20:31 PM
What happened was this: At about 9am, my husband, who happened to be home yesterday, was sitting in the living room with our two dogs when he heard a couple of cars pull up outside. He looked out the window and saw three black SUVs in front of our house; two at the curb in front and one pulled up behind my husband's Jeep in the driveway, as if to block him from leaving.
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@cryptocommies
October 31, 2018, 01:51:21 AM
I'm sure there are American cops and ISIS soldiers who go home to their families and are otherwise great people, but the problem is they took an oath to uphold the laws, all of the laws, even the cruel, unjust laws.  They took an oath to disregard their own moral judgement to enforce immoral laws.  That is what makes them all bad.   The ones who aren't bad will be out of a job for speaking out against their coworkers or breaking the oath.
legendary
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October 30, 2018, 07:26:39 PM

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

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Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.

How can one provide statistics when the statistic makers are instructed to hide bad-cop statistics? And, if they show the statistics, the cops gang up on them and terrorize them in subtle ways, right in their own neighborhood.

However, Google "bad cops" or "police brutality" to see what is going on behind the scenes. And check out Why All Police Are Bad — for Society.

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Checking a few videos of ''bad cops'' doesn't show how all cops are bad, it shows specific cops breaking the law or abusing it, if you want to claim all police is worse than ISIS then you have to prove that a big part of them are indeed bad not just a few. I can certainly find thousands of videos of cops doing good things, would that convince you they are good?

Hey, don't you realize that ISIS are good to their own people?

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October 30, 2018, 03:51:53 PM

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

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Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.

How can one provide statistics when the statistic makers are instructed to hide bad-cop statistics? And, if they show the statistics, the cops gang up on them and terrorize them in subtle ways, right in their own neighborhood.

However, Google "bad cops" or "police brutality" to see what is going on behind the scenes. And check out Why All Police Are Bad — for Society.

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Checking a few videos of ''bad cops'' doesn't show how all cops are bad, it shows specific cops breaking the law or abusing it, if you want to claim all police is worse than ISIS then you have to prove that a big part of them are indeed bad not just a few. I can certainly find thousands of videos of cops doing good things, would that convince you they are good?
legendary
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October 24, 2018, 07:05:14 PM
Not afraid, why do they fear me?
They always act according to the law, if you do not break the law of the country - they will not touch you.
What is the problem at all?

You are probably white and have never heard of "stop and frisk" or "your car matches the description of a car involved in an earlier crime"

Right! Youtube search on "black guy shot by cop in car."    Cool
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@cryptocommies
October 24, 2018, 05:30:28 PM
Not afraid, why do they fear me?
They always act according to the law, if you do not break the law of the country - they will not touch you.
What is the problem at all?

You are probably white and have never heard of "stop and frisk" or "your car matches the description of a car involved in an earlier crime"
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October 24, 2018, 01:53:56 PM
Not afraid, why do they fear me?
They always act according to the law, if you do not break the law of the country - they will not touch you.
What is the problem at all?
legendary
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October 22, 2018, 04:52:34 PM

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

Cool

Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.

How can one provide statistics when the statistic makers are instructed to hide bad-cop statistics? And, if they show the statistics, the cops gang up on them and terrorize them in subtle ways, right in their own neighborhood.

However, Google "bad cops" or "police brutality" to see what is going on behind the scenes. And check out Why All Police Are Bad — for Society.

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