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October 21, 2018, 04:11:48 PM
Freedom of religion is law in the US.  It is not in the caliphate.  Perhaps you should research the history of government lynchings and scalping in the US.  There were several massacres of native men women and children for simply being different. The US has been much more vicious.  At least with ISIS, you know that your religion is illegal and are given the option to renounce it.  
The Police have been given so much power and it’s not good at all and most of the times when they kill innocent and unarmed civilians they go scout free. Am beginning to suspect that white supremacist are being hired in the police force for this reason.
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October 21, 2018, 12:30:21 PM
Freedom of religion is law in the US.  It is not in the caliphate.  Perhaps you should research the history of government lynchings and scalping in the US.  There were several massacres of native men women and children for simply being different. The US has been much more vicious.  At least with ISIS, you know that your religion is illegal and are given the option to renounce it.  
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October 21, 2018, 10:58:27 AM
ISIS doesn't murder people by their standards because they are only executing people who have committed crimes.  Its kind of like how you guys say most police shootings are "justified".  In my eyes, killing someone is never justified but ISIS and police kill people who they think there is justification to kill.

You also have to realize ISIS soldiers were police and military at the same time.  The US military kills far more innocent people but are still celebrated at home because they are "fighting for us".  Well ISIS could be viewed the same way.  ISIS is the most similar entity to the US, but its much more like the US at an earlier time. Its 19th century US.  The difference is that today's US military and police have the best technology that has ever existed.  This allows them to carry out their atrocities in a much cleaner, hands off way and appear to be morally superior to a group like ISIS.

All police and soldiers are the ultimate class traitors because they take an oath to enforce all laws (even the unjust ones) and follow all orders (even the unjust ones).  That makes all of them bad. Maybe there are some exceptions of cops who lied on the oath and secretly would not enforce laws they see as unjust, but that would be a fake cop.   I'm sure some of them are great people at home with their family and friends but you can't be a good person while you are on duty in that job.  Sorry.
BS what about the Christians who were beheaded for not renouncing their faith, what crime did they commit for ISIS to condemn them to death. Regardless of all that deaths by police in the USA is rising with an alarming trend and there have been more death of US citizens than deaths when compared terrorism.
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October 21, 2018, 10:39:57 AM
ISIS doesn't murder people by their standards because they are only executing people who have committed crimes.  Its kind of like how you guys say most police shootings are "justified".  In my eyes, killing someone is never justified but ISIS and police kill people who they think there is justification to kill.

You also have to realize ISIS soldiers were police and military at the same time.  The US military kills far more innocent people but are still celebrated at home because they are "fighting for us".  Well ISIS could be viewed the same way.  ISIS is the most similar entity to the US, but its much more like the US at an earlier time. Its 19th century US.  The difference is that today's US military and police have the best technology that has ever existed.  This allows them to carry out their atrocities in a much cleaner, hands off way and appear to be morally superior to a group like ISIS.

All police and soldiers are the ultimate class traitors because they take an oath to enforce all laws (even the unjust ones) and follow all orders (even the unjust ones).  That makes all of them bad. Maybe there are some exceptions of cops who lied on the oath and secretly would not enforce laws they see as unjust, but that would be a fake cop.   I'm sure some of them are great people at home with their family and friends but you can't be a good person while you are on duty in that job.  Sorry.
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October 21, 2018, 08:33:03 AM
Which might not raise any red flags. Because who wasn't reading those stories? Who wasn't clicking those links? But my son's reading habits combined with my search for a pressure cooker and my husband's search for a backpack set off an alarm of sorts at the joint terrorism task force headquarters.
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September 18, 2018, 03:29:56 PM

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

Cool

Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.
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September 18, 2018, 03:08:39 PM

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

Cool
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September 18, 2018, 02:46:41 PM

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

Cool

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.
Even if you had proof for your statistics, standard statistics say that only 10% of crimes are ever caught. But these statistics would be lying, because cops will stalk and persecute anybody who would show that 10% is way under what it really is with cops... who get away with all kinds of crap, because they can.



''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.

You still don't get it, do you. When ISIS does things that we call bad, they are doing what is good in their religion. Our 1st Amendment protects freedom of religion. How much more when it is in their own country(s)!

Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad. But I have just shown you above, how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

Cool

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.
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September 18, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
EVEN, even, if you look for a rotten apple in a police dept., you must be insane to compare them to ISIS. I won't be telling about all those "wonderful" things they do to people they consider infidels, or gays, or, god forbid, jews (or other nation they deem not worthy living); I just tell you that in their own territory they are pretty much the same thing you loathe in this thread, they too police people, and making them live by their rules, so, in a sense, they are an establishment you hate so much.

What are you even talking about? ISIS people do all those good things for their people, too. That is totally not the point.

You can trust ISIS. How can you trust them? You can trust them to kill you if you are NOT one of them, but to love you if you ARE one of them.

You can't trust cops. They're supposed to love you, but they might kill you.

They might kill you because you look at them the wrong way. They don't even care enough to make sure they have the right apartment when they do a drug raid, to take away a person's free rights. They often overly beat people... hit him in the face, and when he raises his arms to protect himself, then say he is resisting, and hit him some more.

And as I have been saying directly above, who cares what the police union attorneys say in court - if it is right or wrong... who cares - just agree with them.

Cool
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September 18, 2018, 02:17:36 PM
EVEN, even, if you look for a rotten apple in a police dept., you must be insane to compare them to ISIS. I won't be telling about all those "wonderful" things they do to people they consider infidels, or gays, or, god forbid, jews (or other nation they deem not worthy living); I just tell you that in their own territory they are pretty much the same thing you loathe in this thread, they too police people, and making them live by their rules, so, in a sense, they are an establishment you hate so much.
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September 18, 2018, 01:31:50 PM

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

Cool

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.
Even if you had proof for your statistics, standard statistics say that only 10% of crimes are ever caught. But these statistics would be lying, because cops will stalk and persecute anybody who would show that 10% is way under what it really is with cops... who get away with all kinds of crap, because they can.



''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.

You still don't get it, do you. When ISIS does things that we call bad, they are doing what is good in their religion. Our 1st Amendment protects freedom of religion. How much more when it is in their own country(s)!

Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad. But I have just shown you above, how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

Cool
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September 18, 2018, 09:46:38 AM

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

Cool

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.

''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.
legendary
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September 18, 2018, 08:58:41 AM

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

Cool
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September 17, 2018, 06:14:03 PM

If you are talking about https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Cool

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

Cool

''But they would follow the police union almost 100%'' What does this mean? Follow what exactly? This was a particular cop that is accused of doing something bad. What are you talking about?

This means that cops would formally agree with the police union almost 100%, even if they personally and informally did not agree.

ISIS doesn't have a police union, because they are all their own union. So, they are good by agreeing with themselves.

Cops aren't so good in agreeing with themselves. They are duplicitously bad at the same time:
1. Agreeing with their own police union;
2. Disagreeing with their own police union.

You can trust ISIS to do exactly what they are there for.

You never can tell about cops.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

Cool

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.
legendary
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September 17, 2018, 05:38:56 PM

If you are talking about https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Cool

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

Cool

''But they would follow the police union almost 100%'' What does this mean? Follow what exactly? This was a particular cop that is accused of doing something bad. What are you talking about?

This means that cops would formally agree with the police union almost 100%, even if they personally and informally did not agree.

ISIS doesn't have a police union, because they are all their own union. So, they are good by agreeing with themselves.

Cops aren't so good in agreeing with themselves. They are duplicitously bad at the same time:
1. Agreeing with their own police union;
2. Disagreeing with their own police union.

You can trust ISIS to do exactly what they are there for.

You never can tell about cops.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

Cool
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September 17, 2018, 10:58:32 AM

If you are talking about https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Cool

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

Cool

''But they would follow the police union almost 100%'' What does this mean? Follow what exactly? This was a particular cop that is accused of doing something bad. What are you talking about?
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September 17, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
Young was first contacted by the FBI in 2010 as authorities were investigating an acquaintance he knew through college and a local mosque. Court papers say Young told agents he was shocked by the allegations against Zachary Chesser , who was ultimately convicted of trying to join an al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group and threatening the creators of “South Park.” (Chesser, the defense says, later indicated he remembered Young as a conservative police officer “not interested in jihad.”)
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September 16, 2018, 10:03:42 PM
ISIS has a different level of evil inside them and those US cops have just racism inside them. ISIS are commiting crimes while those US cops are implementing selective judgement which is really not good for the black people.
legendary
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September 16, 2018, 06:45:55 PM

If you are talking about https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Cool

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

Cool
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September 16, 2018, 01:30:48 PM
Are you fucking serious?   There are seriously corrupt cops, and they often get away with things they shouldn't get away with.  I'm not going to debate that.  But are you seriously, genuinely trying to say that cops are worse than fucking ISIS?   They murder people all the time.  They destroy entire towns, they decapitate people and record video of it.  Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit, of course ISIS is worse.  Get the fuck out of your bubble and understand that there is a world outside of people being discriminated for being black, and instead of them being racially profiled they're just executed instead.  Jesus Christ, get a grip.

You see a cop. You trust cops. You walk up to the cop and say "hi." The cop shoots you, because he happens to be a bad cop... or he is simply scared of you for no reason. Or, he doesn't shoot you, but you never know for sure until you try it.

You see a member of ISIS. You turn and run. You don't get shot.

So, who is better? The cop who shoots you, or ISIS who doesn't?

If you KNEW the cop was going to shoot only the bad people, your trust would be well founded. As it is, you can't trust him.

But you CAN trust ISIS... to shoot you. So you run and are safe.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

Cool

That particular cop is indeed not good, however majority of cops 99.99% wont shoot you like that, therefore the majority of cops are good.

If you are talking about https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

Cool

Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.
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