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hero member
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February 16, 2016, 10:18:38 AM


Statistics are nice. They give us direction. Because we have way too few statistics (but if we had enough, there would be way too many of them to manage accurately), we can never be certain of the outcome of our predictions.

Cool

Hey guys you seem stuck in a loop no? One keep saying statistics can't predict outcomes the other keeps saying it allows to have an idea of the predictable outcomes... XD
legendary
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February 16, 2016, 05:59:57 AM


You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

Again you totally misunderstood something.

It's not because something has happened that it was not a predictable outcome...

You totally misunderstand in depth.

Things are often approximately predictable, even though they are not really predictable. For example.

For the last 10 years Mary has been driving the same road to work, every weekday morning. Because of this, it seems to be predictable that she will drive to work today. But today she is killed in a car accident. They decide not to bury her at work.

Cool

Hence the word predictable... Don't see what I misunderstood here...

In the sense that anything can be predicted, whether the prediction will ever happen as predicted, or not, you are right. The act of predicting something is always available. Making a correct prediction based on knowledge is never there.

Cool

Seems you have problems with statistics definitively...
If there are 3 possible outcomes and I have enough knowledge, I cans ay the first one has 12% the second 13% and the last one 75% chance to happen...



Statistics are nice. They give us direction. Because we have way too few statistics (but if we had enough, there would be way too many of them to manage accurately), we can never be certain of the outcome of our predictions.

Cool
sr. member
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February 16, 2016, 04:40:24 AM


You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

Again you totally misunderstood something.

It's not because something has happened that it was not a predictable outcome...

You totally misunderstand in depth.

Things are often approximately predictable, even though they are not really predictable. For example.

For the last 10 years Mary has been driving the same road to work, every weekday morning. Because of this, it seems to be predictable that she will drive to work today. But today she is killed in a car accident. They decide not to bury her at work.

Cool

Hence the word predictable... Don't see what I misunderstood here...

In the sense that anything can be predicted, whether the prediction will ever happen as predicted, or not, you are right. The act of predicting something is always available. Making a correct prediction based on knowledge is never there.

Cool

Seems you have problems with statistics definitively...
If there are 3 possible outcomes and I have enough knowledge, I cans ay the first one has 12% the second 13% and the last one 75% chance to happen...
legendary
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Merit: 1373
February 15, 2016, 12:19:29 PM


You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

Again you totally misunderstood something.

It's not because something has happened that it was not a predictable outcome...

You totally misunderstand in depth.

Things are often approximately predictable, even though they are not really predictable. For example.

For the last 10 years Mary has been driving the same road to work, every weekday morning. Because of this, it seems to be predictable that she will drive to work today. But today she is killed in a car accident. They decide not to bury her at work.

Cool

Hence the word predictable... Don't see what I misunderstood here...

In the sense that anything can be predicted, whether the prediction will ever happen as predicted, or not, you are right. The act of predicting something is always available. Making a correct prediction based on knowledge is never there.

Cool
sr. member
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Merit: 250
February 15, 2016, 11:53:21 AM


You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

Again you totally misunderstood something.

It's not because something has happened that it was not a predictable outcome...

You totally misunderstand in depth.

Things are often approximately predictable, even though they are not really predictable. For example.

For the last 10 years Mary has been driving the same road to work, every weekday morning. Because of this, it seems to be predictable that she will drive to work today. But today she is killed in a car accident. They decide not to bury her at work.

Cool

Hence the word predictable... Don't see what I misunderstood here...
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
February 15, 2016, 11:30:30 AM


You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

Again you totally misunderstood something.

It's not because something has happened that it was not a predictable outcome...

You totally misunderstand in depth.

Things are often approximately predictable, even though they are not really predictable. For example.

For the last 10 years Mary has been driving the same road to work, every weekday morning. Because of this, it seems to be predictable that she will drive to work today. But today she is killed in a car accident. They decide not to bury her at work.

Cool
sr. member
Activity: 293
Merit: 250
February 15, 2016, 11:12:14 AM


You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

Again you totally misunderstood something.

It's not because something has happened that it was not a predictable outcome...
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
February 15, 2016, 10:58:32 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley

Yeah free for sure, free and not believing in any of this bullshit of science that's it?

Incredible though, that this bullshit science allows you to use a computer and the internet no?

science is nothing more than a series of predictable outcomes, do you not understand the english language or something, i do i live here Smiley


It doesn't mean anything. Everything is always a series of predictable outcomes. The fact that you're really upsetting me is in itself the result of a series of predictable outcomes for example Smiley

You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

fact = history repeats itself, therefore everything is predictable Smiley

must admit i do enjoy a good debate / banter Smiley


Fact is, nothing repeats itself exactly. Therefore, nothing is predictable.    Cool
sr. member
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February 15, 2016, 10:41:03 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley

Yeah free for sure, free and not believing in any of this bullshit of science that's it?

Incredible though, that this bullshit science allows you to use a computer and the internet no?

science is nothing more than a series of predictable outcomes, do you not understand the english language or something, i do i live here Smiley


It doesn't mean anything. Everything is always a series of predictable outcomes. The fact that you're really upsetting me is in itself the result of a series of predictable outcomes for example Smiley

You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin

fact = history repeats itself, therefore everything is predictable Smiley

must admit i do enjoy a good debate / banter Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
February 15, 2016, 10:38:49 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley

Yeah free for sure, free and not believing in any of this bullshit of science that's it?

Incredible though, that this bullshit science allows you to use a computer and the internet no?

science is nothing more than a series of predictable outcomes, do you not understand the english language or something, i do i live here Smiley


It doesn't mean anything. Everything is always a series of predictable outcomes. The fact that you're really upsetting me is in itself the result of a series of predictable outcomes for example Smiley

You guys are goofy. Nothing that has happened is a predictable outcome. Why not? Because things that have happened are things of the past. Predictions pertain to the future. Talking about predictions like they ARE outcomes is like looking into the future with a crystal ball and stating that the things that happened in the past are what caused the present according to something not yet done in the future.

How goofy can you get? You have the whole thing backwards.

 Grin
sr. member
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February 15, 2016, 10:38:26 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley

Yeah free for sure, free and not believing in any of this bullshit of science that's it?

Incredible though, that this bullshit science allows you to use a computer and the internet no?

science is nothing more than a series of predictable outcomes, do you not understand the english language or something, i do i live here Smiley


It doesn't mean anything. Everything is always a series of predictable outcomes. The fact that you're really upsetting me is in itself the result of a series of predictable outcomes for example Smiley

the fact your getting upset is actually labeled cognitive dissonance mate, you might want to look it up Smiley
sr. member
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February 15, 2016, 09:56:27 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley

Yeah free for sure, free and not believing in any of this bullshit of science that's it?

Incredible though, that this bullshit science allows you to use a computer and the internet no?

science is nothing more than a series of predictable outcomes, do you not understand the english language or something, i do i live here Smiley


It doesn't mean anything. Everything is always a series of predictable outcomes. The fact that you're really upsetting me is in itself the result of a series of predictable outcomes for example Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 882
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February 15, 2016, 09:45:01 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley

Yeah free for sure, free and not believing in any of this bullshit of science that's it?

Incredible though, that this bullshit science allows you to use a computer and the internet no?

science is nothing more than a series of predictable outcomes, do you not understand the english language or something, i do i live here Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 392
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February 15, 2016, 09:42:42 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley

Yeah free for sure, free and not believing in any of this bullshit of science that's it?

Incredible though, that this bullshit science allows you to use a computer and the internet no?
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 251
February 15, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD

yeah i get this a lot, the 99% are brainwashed guberment slaves, i am a minority as im free from the shackles of external guberment, not many people understand me or my point of view, but meh end of the day all money was created from thin air by a banker to make a banker rich, by using "money" at all you are legitamising the fraud, and making some banker or other rich, hense why im involved with crypto Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 392
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February 15, 2016, 09:29:07 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley

OMG I just don't understand anything you say!

You know what? Keep your head on your shoulders and go on without me xD
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 251
February 15, 2016, 09:16:35 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?

im not a dumb parishioner of guberment if thats what you mean, only 10% of the global populous work, and only 3% provide the globes needs, the 7% are all working financial services to continue the pretense that money has value, well if money loses its value the politicians have to beg us for food and water, and they wont allow that, the other 90% claim benefits, or just dont work...

i will never pay tax as that would be a crime, it is illegal to fund terrorists and the only terrorists on the planet represent guberment Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 392
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February 15, 2016, 09:02:13 AM
assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/


So it means you never take any kind of decision?
Like you don't work and you don't get a salary?
sr. member
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February 15, 2016, 08:57:56 AM
prove to me here and now that those assumptions are always 100% accurate!!!

you can not do it, as you are using theories, treat me like a court i only accept physical evidence, hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, you see i have a brain that thinks for it self, theorem is conjecture Smiley

Well mathematics and classic algebra are based on rather simple assumption:
a constant a(x+y)=ax+ay
if a constant and ax=0 then a=0 or x=0

You got also some geometrical assumption like:
two parallel lines never cross
the sum of the angles of a triangle is always 180°

They seem rather obvious no?
The idea is that assumptions can't be proven because to demonstrate something you have to base yourself on something else. So you have at a moment or another to say "ok I'll assume this is true" otherwise you can't do anything, never ever.




hmmmmm lets see, there are 360 degrees in a circle, allegedly a representation of the earths so called rotation of the sun, problem being we know that actually takes 364.25 days, maths is yet another series of predictable outcomes im afraid and is still theorem based, so you have still offered up zero physical evidence im afraid your just pushing the oldest BBB theory in the book Wink


Nobody says Earth rotation around the sun is a circle! We teach that to the children cause it's simple but everyone know it's not a circle!!!

And I don't see your point... I was saying that science is based on assumption and those assumptions are rather simple... You can't prove those assumptions, it's the base of everything. How could you prove them? You just gotta admit them that's all.

you clearly do not live on the same planet i do lol



I don't see your problem...
When you make a reasoning, of any kind, you gotta based it on something no?

assumptions = the mother of all fook ups mate, i never assume, if i have no fact evidence the claim can not be proven therefore carries no water, i am effectively a court hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, and assumptions are conjecture at best :/
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February 15, 2016, 08:04:39 AM
prove to me here and now that those assumptions are always 100% accurate!!!

you can not do it, as you are using theories, treat me like a court i only accept physical evidence, hearsay and conjecture are not evidence, you see i have a brain that thinks for it self, theorem is conjecture Smiley

Well mathematics and classic algebra are based on rather simple assumption:
a constant a(x+y)=ax+ay
if a constant and ax=0 then a=0 or x=0

You got also some geometrical assumption like:
two parallel lines never cross
the sum of the angles of a triangle is always 180°

They seem rather obvious no?
The idea is that assumptions can't be proven because to demonstrate something you have to base yourself on something else. So you have at a moment or another to say "ok I'll assume this is true" otherwise you can't do anything, never ever.




hmmmmm lets see, there are 360 degrees in a circle, allegedly a representation of the earths so called rotation of the sun, problem being we know that actually takes 364.25 days, maths is yet another series of predictable outcomes im afraid and is still theorem based, so you have still offered up zero physical evidence im afraid your just pushing the oldest BBB theory in the book Wink


Nobody says Earth rotation around the sun is a circle! We teach that to the children cause it's simple but everyone know it's not a circle!!!

And I don't see your point... I was saying that science is based on assumption and those assumptions are rather simple... You can't prove those assumptions, it's the base of everything. How could you prove them? You just gotta admit them that's all.

you clearly do not live on the same planet i do lol



I don't see your problem...
When you make a reasoning, of any kind, you gotta based it on something no?
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