Topic: Islam the Cancer - page 8. (Read 3975 times)

"Non-whites? Overpopulated third world countries?"

Is this as bad as I'm reading it? Man, could you be even more subjective?

We agree on most of the above, not the bolded section.  That kind of idea, if put into effect becomes a political tool used to get rid of real or perceived enemies.   

Agreed... 71% of the world's population is dumb...

i wasn't born to christians nor have i claimed to be one. i said it was superior to islam. so are judaism, hinduism and buddhism. there is a fundamental incompatability between islam and our civillised values of freedom of thought, freedom of speech, the rule of law and separation of church and state that doesnt arise with other belief systems.

the hands/eyes verse is to do with things that promote or enable sin. the sword verse is about division and persecution. he's saying people who follow him will be hated by their own family not calling for someone's death. there are commentaries on biblehub.com if you're interested (something tells me you arent) but i havent got hours to spend pouring over my bible typing up long explanations for 20 verses to go back and forth with someone who thinks mark and corinthians are part of the old testament.

i'm all for abortion of disabled and some nonwhites and if i had my way it would be enforced in overpopulated third world countries.

I think it is more of a cultural issue. Can you imagine growing up In a country where doubting religion is forbidden? You'd face jail time, amputations or even death. For some people, their issues just no freedom from religion. Islam can be peqceful, sadly though it's the root of many problems due to regressive fanaticism.

I guess you filter out Christian religious nuts who kill abortion doctors...  

And you call yourself Christian?  You were born into your religion and you follow it because of peer pressure.  Read your holy book and see if it makes sense to you.

Bible:
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Kings 6:29 - cannibalism
Leviticus 25:44 - slavery
Deuteronomy 13:12-15 - genocide
Leviticus 10:6 - you will die if you rip your clothes
Leviticus 19:19 - breeding cattle is illegal
Leviticus 21 - some bat crazy rules for priests
Leviticus 20:10 - killing of adulterers
Leviticus 20:9 - killing children who dishonor mother or father
Leviticus 24:16 - stonning people if they say God's name
Deuteronomy 28:53 - more cannibalism
Genesis 19:8 - prostituting your virgin daughters
Leviticus 19:19 - not mixing two kinds of material for clothing :-)
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - more stoning for not being a virgin
Corinthians 14:34-35 - women should be quiet and obey
Exodus 31:14-15 - killing of people who work on Sabbath
Mark 10:11-12 - only marry once otherwise check Leviticus 20:10 for remedy
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 - cutting off hands
Deuteronomy 23:1 - you'll not go to heaven if your testicles are damaged
Leviticus 19:27 - no haircuts of any kind
Leviticus 19:28 - no tattoos, or else
Leviticus 11:7-8 - eating pork is forbidden

New Testament:
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Matthew 5:29 - plucking out eyes
Matthew 5:30 - cutting off hands
Matthew 10:34 - waging wars by a sword
Luke 19:26-2 - genocide
Romans 1:20-32 - killing sinners
Revelation 2:5 - more killing
Revelation 2:23 - killing children

Psalm 137:9 - killing babies

Don't come back and say you are on a higher moral ground than Muslims.  You are all the same.
Look in the mirror.

Cutting heads off repulse you not because you are a Christian, but because it is inhumane and is barbaric.  So is going and shooting abortion doctor in the head.

That's the right quote, right there. Finally.

i was thinking that all the religious supporters are dumb not just islamic ones..

No problem. You know, if Islamist once in the future take over Europe, christians will be called to convert or pay the jizya, while militant atheist will be beheaded on the spot. By then maybe they will be able to realize the difference between christians and muslims .

Islam isn't the cancer , indeed Wahabi is  the cancer
as a Christian  I lived with Muslims and I have many Musilm friends I had never had a problem with them even when we discuss things
Wahabis think that every human being who isn't Sunni is Kafir , but other Muslims aren't the same
so we can't say that all Muslims are bad
can we compare Israelis who occupied a country and are killing the people there with other Jews ??  

Better than Islam the Gemini, right? 

hard to argue with militant athiets who refuse to make a distinction between a religion and what some religious people do because whatever you say they'll always come back with "but christians did mean things whatever # of years ago". old testament law was for a specific group of people to follow during that specific time. there is no commandment from jesus to his followers to impose it (or anything else)on the rest of the world at the point of a sword.

and there's no inconsistency between believing in evolution or not stoning adulterers and being a christian. salvation in christianity is based on believing in jesus. islam on the other hand is a works based religion. you perform certain actions allah wants you to perform and you go heaven. fighting and converting non muslims counts towards this. one isis guy told his yazidi sex slave he was bringing himself closer to god by raping her and this is entirely consistent with the koran's teachings.

The same is true of any religion.

by this very premise we can summize the 99% are in fact retarded, they seem to love worshiping the church of guberment haha

Yes that is true.  Other religions HAD to 'reconcile' some of their teachings with science or with modern secular moral standards.  They did so only because otherwise they would lose membership.

But by doing so they did not make themselves any more valid.

C'mon if people still believe 6000 year old Earth, talking snake, Noah's ark, flood, creation story, virgin birth, resurrection from dead (we know today from biochemistry what happens when chemical reactions within each cell stop, hint: the process is irreversible), cracker turning into human flesh it makes them as stupid as Muslims believing flying horses or rivers of wine.

If it was not for secular social and political movements, scientific advancement, mostly in Christian occupied countries, Christians would be stoning adulterers, trading slaves, killing gays or people who work on Sabbath.  

Ideology of Islam was based on Bible, that is where the writer got his inspiration.  Parallels are obvious.

The fact that most Christians are not killing people the way ISIS is does not change the fact that their ideology is as sick as ISIS.  Christians, just like 'moderate Muslims' have to do quite a bit of mental moral shuffle to cherry pick parts of their holy book, otherwise people would think their ideology is evil.  So they had to reform their ideology and came up with "Love your neighbor...." and "Religion of peace" slogans.

Most people today consider ISIS evil, including some Muslims.

You no longer see them doing so. Only few decades ago they were still hanging black people in the USA.

Christianity is 2000 years old. Until it reached 1700 it was still really usual to see Christians burning people alive. Until 1500 it was common to go in other countries and chop heads because they were not of the good religion.

Islam is only 1300 years old. Seems to me that the two religions are rather equivalent. It's just that one is older, but they're both dumb and violent religions.

most christians accept evolution and what the fuck difference does it make to your life if a few don't? i dont see them cutting heads off and putting people into slavery because their religion tells them to.

Christians most likely not going to chop off any of your parts if you not acting as they like. They also not used to blow themselves off on crowded places. Most importantly if some of them would do the above mentioned things they surely not going to be celebrated as the heroes of christianity. So yes there are some objective measures what can make a given religion worse that others.

What? Are we still talking about religion? You know the shit about "the world has been created by god 5k years ago and evolution is just a myth"?
Same thing for Christians. It's just that most of our socities have less and less idiot Christians that's all.

yes we can find it worse, other religions have reconciled themselves with science and the modern world, muslims say the koran is the direct word of god and everything in it is perfect and can never be altered, everything in islam comes from a set of 1300 year old laws which are supposed to apply to every civilisation for all time