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saddampbuh

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Look dude, I don't believe in fictional characters from some ancient books...He is a fucking myth....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U

the historicity of jesus is accepted by the vast majority of christian and non christian scholars but so what if they're all wrong, his teachings or the teachings attributed to him by whoever you think made him up are perfectly compatible with our modern secular values. you don't have to believe buddha existed to accept that buddhism is a peaceful belief system. my beef with islam is not that it is false.

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You are not far off ISIS ideology, as much as you hate them, the bottom line is the same.
Difference is they want to reduce number of infidels, you want to reduce number of non-whites.

At least you are honest about it Roll Eyes

the difference is that isis wants to spread across the globe and impose its beliefs on the rest of us. i want to limit the third world population because paying for their international aid and welfare and taking in millions of them as immigrants is a burden to me. non muslims are not harming isis by not believing in islam. nonwhite criminals and welfare scroungers are harming my country.

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Quote from: jak1 on February 08, 2016, 05:19:41 PM

yes and with millions of arab and african people it really will spread like cancer..in 10-20 years Europe will be dead, and full of them

Yea, actually i heard this before and i believe there's an actual study about this. I believe it's cause people in Europe are falling away against procreation. That is why they said Muslim people would dominate the population of Europe, 10-15 years from now.

Just some thought btw. Religion, is just religion and will just be religion no more than that.

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Quote from: Gimpeline on February 09, 2016, 02:18:19 AM

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Just in case there is any doubt about Islam:

The bible say the same. If you find someone in your town that don't believe in your god you should burn down the town, death penalty for picking up sticks on the sabath and stuff like that. It's not just Islam. All religions are bad

Yes the bible says similar things, one tenth as many. No, there is no moral equivalence argument that has merit.

That is simply because of the INCIDENCE of violence. If this is because Christians don't obey their old book and Muslims do, it does not matter the reason. The incidence in current day is the measure.

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Just in case there is any doubt about Islam:

The bible say the same. If you find someone in your town that don't believe in your god you should burn down the town, death penalty for picking up sticks on the sabath and stuff like that. It's not just Islam. All religions are bad

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Just in case there is any doubt about Islam:

lets just remember that encouragement of murder, rape and terror is not exclusive to Islam:
http://www.evilbible.com/

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Quote from: GTO911 on February 08, 2016, 05:02:11 AM

I was thinking that people who follow Islam must be really dumb to follow such a pathetic religion.

Can we effectively say that 22% of the worlds population is dumb??

Why do you figure that? Islam is a religion that is real ! a lot of other religions to Islam , you do not understand about islam !

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yes and with millions of arab and african people it really will spread like cancer..in 10-20 years Europe will be dead, and full of them

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I went on the biblehub.com, the problem is that the interpretation is just that. Subjective interpretation. There are Muslims that justify and explain vile quotes from Quran. Not sure what your point is.

that if you think jesus endorsed violence its either your anti religion agenda (which you admit to having) talking or your bible knowledge is based on 5 minutes looking at wikipedia. more likely the first one.

the disagreements within islam are usually centered around how much and what types of violence are permitted and where, what counts as being in a state of war, who can be targeted and so on with the "moderates" claiming they have to abide by the laws of non muslim countries in which they live, not whether violence is allowed at all. for example some say the only sex slaves you're allowed to have are captives taken during war time and others say any non muslim woman can be taken and raped at will. but all agree there are certain conditions under which rape slavery is permissible because the koran, god's final revelation which can never be superceded, tells them so. you don't get that from jesus. you do get christians doing bad things but that's people being people.

Quote from: Spendulus on February 08, 2016, 12:21:45 PM

We agree on most of the above, not the bolded section. That kind of idea, if put into effect becomes a political tool used to get rid of real or perceived enemies.

but i want to get rid of my enemies.

there are going to be 5 billion africans by the end of the century if nothing is done to stop it.

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Quote from: youdamushi on February 08, 2016, 05:29:52 AM

Quote from: GTO911 on February 08, 2016, 05:02:11 AM

I was thinking that people who follow Islam must be really dumb to follow such a pathetic religion.

Can we effectively say that 22% of the worlds population is dumb??

Cause you find it worse than the others religion?

For me they're all equally stupid...

I think they're all stupid but I don't think they're all equally stupid. Or equally harmful. I don't like Islam in general and the radical ones in particular. They do not belong in 2016. Those beliefs are a throwback to a time before critical thinking had evolved. Christianity used to be just as bad if not worse.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 08, 2016, 01:12:21 PM

I really don't think that Islam is real issue and problem here.
For centuries Muslim lived in the Europe, in Bosnia, Kosovo, also Germany, Austria, France, UK, together with Christian without some big conflicts or problems.
We have problem now because this new Muslim, coming now to Europe from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, are very different from this ''old Muslim'' in Europe.
They coming from different culture, have different mentality etc, and this is real issue here, not Islam as religion.

I'm curious, do we even have names for these subgroups of religio-cultural phenomena?

Side note: All discussion about "For centuries, Muslim lived .... blah blah blah" has no relation to "violent Jihad Islam."

That had it's start with Sayyid Qutb, with his Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt in the 1950s, and with his disciple, bin Laden.

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I really don't think that Islam is real issue and problem here.
For centuries Muslim lived in the Europe, in Bosnia, Kosovo, also Germany, Austria, France, UK, together with Christian without some big conflicts or problems.
We have problem now because this new Muslim, coming now to Europe from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, are very different from this ''old Muslim'' in Europe.
They coming from different culture, have different mentality etc, and this is real issue here, not Islam as religion.

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"Non-whites? Overpopulated third world countries?"

Is this as bad as I'm reading it? Man, could you be even more subjective?

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Quote from: saddampbuh on February 08, 2016, 11:16:25 AM

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And you call yourself Christian? You were born into your religion and you follow it because of peer pressure. Read your holy book and see if it makes sense to you

i wasn't born to christians nor have i claimed to be one. i said it was superior to islam. so are judaism, hinduism and buddhism. there is a fundamental incompatability between islam and our civillised values of freedom of thought, freedom of speech, the rule of law and separation of church and state that doesnt arise with other belief systems.

the hands/eyes verse is to do with things that promote or enable sin. the sword verse is about division and persecution. he's saying people who follow him will be hated by their own family not calling for someone's death. there are commentaries on biblehub.com if you're interested (something tells me you arent) but i havent got hours to spend pouring over my bible typing up long explanations for 20 verses to go back and forth with someone who thinks mark and corinthians are part of the old testament.

i'm all for abortion of disabled and some nonwhites and if i had my way it would be enforced in overpopulated third world countries.

We agree on most of the above, not the bolded section. That kind of idea, if put into effect becomes a political tool used to get rid of real or perceived enemies.

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Quote from: eon89 on February 08, 2016, 10:07:34 AM

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Quote from: GTO911 on February 08, 2016, 05:02:11 AM

I was thinking that people who follow Islam must be really dumb to follow such a pathetic religion.

Can we effectively say that 22% of the worlds population is dumb??

i was thinking that all the religious supporters are dumb not just islamic ones..

That's the right quote, right there. Finally.

Agreed... 71% of the world's population is dumb...

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I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth

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And you call yourself Christian? You were born into your religion and you follow it because of peer pressure. Read your holy book and see if it makes sense to you

i wasn't born to christians nor have i claimed to be one. i said it was superior to islam. so are judaism, hinduism and buddhism. there is a fundamental incompatability between islam and our civillised values of freedom of thought, freedom of speech, the rule of law and separation of church and state that doesnt arise with other belief systems.

the hands/eyes verse is to do with things that promote or enable sin. the sword verse is about division and persecution. he's saying people who follow him will be hated by their own family not calling for someone's death. there are commentaries on biblehub.com if you're interested (something tells me you arent) but i havent got hours to spend pouring over my bible typing up long explanations for 20 verses to go back and forth with someone who thinks mark and corinthians are part of the old testament.

i'm all for abortion of disabled and some nonwhites and if i had my way it would be enforced in overpopulated third world countries.

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I think it is more of a cultural issue. Can you imagine growing up In a country where doubting religion is forbidden? You'd face jail time, amputations or even death. For some people, their issues just no freedom from religion. Islam can be peqceful, sadly though it's the root of many problems due to regressive fanaticism.

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Quote from: salinizm on February 08, 2016, 10:00:49 AM

Quote from: GTO911 on February 08, 2016, 05:02:11 AM

I was thinking that people who follow Islam must be really dumb to follow such a pathetic religion.

Can we effectively say that 22% of the worlds population is dumb??

i was thinking that all the religious supporters are dumb not just islamic ones..

That's the right quote, right there. Finally.

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Quote from: GTO911 on February 08, 2016, 05:02:11 AM

I was thinking that people who follow Islam must be really dumb to follow such a pathetic religion.

Can we effectively say that 22% of the worlds population is dumb??

i was thinking that all the religious supporters are dumb not just islamic ones..

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Quote from: saddampbuh on February 08, 2016, 09:14:26 AM

hard to argue with militant athiets who refuse to make a distinction between a religion and what some religious people do because whatever you say they'll always come back with "but christians did mean things whatever # of years ago". old testament law was for a specific group of people to follow during that specific time. there is no commandment from jesus to his followers to impose it (or anything else)on the rest of the world at the point of a sword.

No problem. You know, if Islamist once in the future take over Europe, christians will be called to convert or pay the jizya, while militant atheist will be beheaded on the spot. By then maybe they will be able to realize the difference between christians and muslims

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guess who's back

Islam isn't the cancer , indeed Wahabi is the cancer
as a Christian I lived with Muslims and I have many Musilm friends I had never had a problem with them even when we discuss things
Wahabis think that every human being who isn't Sunni is Kafir , but other Muslims aren't the same
so we can't say that all Muslims are bad
can we compare Israelis who occupied a country and are killing the people there with other Jews ?? Huh

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