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Islam is not a violence and hate,its all about peace and love. You should read the Holy Quran, its all about peace no violence. Some people take this wrong way and think wrong.And everyone fooled by the media's news. They don't think or research by own.
So firstly you should know then criticize and talk about this topic and don't believe the all media's false news.Some bad people do all this things and they give the name of Islam.so think and research and know about islam. This will be more better and right.
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It sure seems like it doesn't it? If these people are really peace loving then why don't they stop terrorism? It seems like they are all supporting it by doing nothing and letting it happen.


How can you say like that? Where is it written that Muslim people are terrorist? It is not like that only they are doing terrorism. Terrorism can be occurred also by others. And only they don't have the responsibilities to stop terrorism or hate or violence. We all should take measures to stop it. So i strongly disagree that Islam is a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love.
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I've said it a few times and I'll say it again. It's not islam in itself that violent, it's more of a geography thing. Serbia has muslim ethnicity too, quite a number, and there's a whole town where the majority of citizens are muslim and, believe it or not, there are absolutely no problems. It's not Islam you should be afraid by itself, but the middle eastern, mostly, and other theocracies that start extremism and islam is just a catalyst.

You must be referring to the Muslims of Novi Pazar. I wouldn't say that they are entirely harmless. If you look at the demographics, then the proportion of the Serbs there has come down from 20% a few decades back to around 5%.
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I was wrong about Islam i said if islamic people had money they would never do terror..
Unless there family got bombed..

The ISIS suicide bomber who was paid $1.25MILLION in compensation by the British government because he was locked up in Guantanamo
The suicide car bomber was named as British fanatic Jamal Udeen al-Harith, 50
Born Ronald Fiddler, the Muslim convert was detained at Guantanamo in 2002
He was freed after two years following lobbying from Tony Blair's Government
Al-Harith was later handed $1.25million of taxpayers' money in compensation
But within a decade of leaving jail he would flee to Syria to fight alongside ISIS
Did you know Ronald Fiddler? Email [email protected]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4247694/ISIS-suicide-bomber-paid-1-25MILLION-UK-g.


Now a Muslim gets 1.25 million and still he goes on to do terror ..I KID YOU NOT I AM SHOCKED..

Man i be living the life..He must of thought the next life was worth more than 1.25 million Cheesy Cheesy..

I am shocked would you kill yourself with that much money Cheesy.

See how dangerous ISLAM is Not even 1.25 million can stop them from killing..

Bad religion ..He was already an islamic nutter before he got locked up..

It's fact that nothing will stop them not even money..
They want SHARIA LAW..

Tony blair needs a kick in the bollocks COUGH strung up on a lamp post ..
With quasimodo gordon brown ..He sold our gold at cheap prices to his friends..CUNT..
And royal mail and his friends could buy 500k worth the public 2 or 3 grands worth..

SCUM BAGS..LABOUR TONY BLAIR ..Not enough swear words to describe that man..

That shit turned us into an Islamic country..
It proves he flooded us with poor islam crazies because the poor voted for labour ..

So he invited poor crazies to add to our poor crazies.
Now the poor crazies go even crazier than before..

Now all the poor crazies are competing for the NHS SCHOOLS DOCTORS HOMES JOBS..

Now instead of competing with mary down the road i am competing with mostafa from umbongo land
Now if mary gets a job and i am hard up she might give me a help in hand..

But mostafa from umbongo land he sending his money back home and wont even talk to us because he got a different belief a way of life ..

SO THANKS TONY BLAIR..SHIT HEAD..

Now remember America you got vast amounts of land for your muslims to hide Like 50 states..

We have ENGLAND  big as 1 state TEXAS   55 million people in england with every country on this planet in it..
Now if a war broke out how many immigrants would flee?..Not our war  BUT YOU TOOK OUR FUCKING LIVES
Schools hospitals homes..

And this is why you see our army going down and down and down..

Why should we die for our country when you FUCK US OVER..Lining your own pockets or immigrants pockets

Now don't get me wrong plenty of immigrant who would die for this country
BUT you and i know most are only here for money and send most of that money back home so that money is lost to our people..It's getting spent in another country..

I AM BRITISH NOT EUROPEAN OR PAKISTAN ..Be fucking Islam Europe soon..

I think MAMA MERKEL DONE THIS THINKING WE ALL TURN TO CHRISTIANITY ..AN AGENDA..

Well you made everyone HATE RELIGION EVEN MORE..DAFT RELIGIOUS FUCKERS..

Christianity is DEAD  Cheesy ..You killed it even more by inviting ISLAM to wipe CHRISTIANITY OUT   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

DUMB FUCKS..You know a country would never just say come on everyone can come without an agenda..

The Christian Democratic Union of Germany..MAMA MERKEL party..
Now why does a christian invite bad MUSLIMS to your land..She knew it would cause trouble..

Now was people starting to forget about religion..
So this stupid BITCH decided with the PEDO CHURCH that if we flood our lands with mad muslims it will get people back into religion and become jesus freaks again..

Now watch what she is asking the GERMANS TO DO..

Merkel suggests Christmas carols, flute-playing in face of 'Islam ...
Video for merkel ask the germans to play the flute▶ 3:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XANwvR7w5co..

Greece has loads of unemployed and part of the EU..
So why invite ISLAMIC CRAZIES rather than saying to greece we have loads of work come to our land until
you get back on your feet..Because you are part of the EU.

 Germany..  
Why ask Islamic countries to work in your country when you had many EUROPEAN countries who needed work?..
So much for the EUROPEAN UNION ..

Because you had an agenda ..and who gives a fuck about your CHRISTIAN BOLLOCKS ..
And your ISLAMIC CRAZY MONKEYS Grin..

To AMERICA DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE ISLAMIC BULLSHIT..

Your politicians watch them they would sell to Islam for a price..

Build a mosque..
Pay a politician     you can build one in Kentucky USA ..
Next thing you know the whole of Kentucky is ISLAM..

Like Kentucky we have little towns Like LEEDS OLDHAM and many other towns OVER RUN BY ISLAM,,

FUCK YOU TONY BLAIR CUNT ..GO AND DIE TWAT..

I hope your plane CRASHES      I WILL DO A JIG..
He as caused million of deaths and it's still going on because of him ..

WE HATE HIM IN THE UK..Yes he has the right to speak BUT no one cares..We hope he drops dead..

I was labour die hard.Never again not ever..ISLAMIC PARTY ..INVITE ANYONE IN FOR A VOTE..


 
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Female headteacher is forced to work from home following death threats from Muslim parents over her 'offensive clothes' amid fears there is a 'Trojan Horse' plot to 'Islamicise' the school

Hard to believe that this is happening in the United Kingdom. Now I am assured that the Western Europe is lost without any chance of a redemption. It is only a matter of time before the Eurabian Caliphate is established.
I hope that Europe still come to its senses and cease to provide its territory for the Muslims. This will happen in any case. Only if now they have a chance to solve the issue peacefully but not quite democratic, then it could lead to the revival of Nazism. We are already seeing growing protest mood of the Europeans.

Nazism is an obsolete ideology. It is not going to get revived. Look at the neo-Nazi parties (NPD in Germany, NF in the UK.etc) across the Europe. They enjoy less than 1% support in all of the European nations.
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I've said it a few times and I'll say it again. It's not islam in itself that violent, it's more of a geography thing. Serbia has muslim ethnicity too, quite a number, and there's a whole town where the majority of citizens are muslim and, believe it or not, there are absolutely no problems. It's not Islam you should be afraid by itself, but the middle eastern, mostly, and other theocracies that start extremism and islam is just a catalyst.
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Female headteacher is forced to work from home following death threats from Muslim parents over her 'offensive clothes' amid fears there is a 'Trojan Horse' plot to 'Islamicise' the school

Hard to believe that this is happening in the United Kingdom. Now I am assured that the Western Europe is lost without any chance of a redemption. It is only a matter of time before the Eurabian Caliphate is established.
I hope that Europe still come to its senses and cease to provide its territory for the Muslims. This will happen in any case. Only if now they have a chance to solve the issue peacefully but not quite democratic, then it could lead to the revival of Nazism. We are already seeing growing protest mood of the Europeans.

As usual, just refer to actual studies and look how the evolution of Muslim population is not significant...
And also try to think about how education gets rid of religion. Best way to fight immigration is to give them and education...
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Female headteacher is forced to work from home following death threats from Muslim parents over her 'offensive clothes' amid fears there is a 'Trojan Horse' plot to 'Islamicise' the school

Hard to believe that this is happening in the United Kingdom. Now I am assured that the Western Europe is lost without any chance of a redemption. It is only a matter of time before the Eurabian Caliphate is established.
I hope that Europe still come to its senses and cease to provide its territory for the Muslims. This will happen in any case. Only if now they have a chance to solve the issue peacefully but not quite democratic, then it could lead to the revival of Nazism. We are already seeing growing protest mood of the Europeans.
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http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/15093631.Father_forced_to_move_after_renouncing_Islam_calls_for_more_action_on_hate_crime/

 A MAN who claims he was forced to move house after renouncing his faith wants authorities to crack down on hate crime

Fasial Bashir, decided to stop practicing Islam in the summer of 2014 over claims the religion was too “hateful” and “sending out the wrong message”.

But when the 43-year-old stopped going to mosques in Ilford he claims he started getting harassment on a weekly basis.

The father-of-two said: “I heard religious people say things I couldn’t put up with any longer – it was all too hateful.

“These people knew I had become an atheist and soon enough my whole family was being harassed.

“At least once a week they would hang around near my house, shouting and swearing at me.

“I was called an apostate, a non-believer, I was told I had betrayed my God and my faith.”

“Sometimes they would even say things to my children – they are far too little to know what was happening, they were very frightened.”

Mr Bashir claims he would often call the police, but was told it was “just a nuisance” and was not a police matter until it was reported at least twice a month.

He said: “They always said they couldn’t really do anything because no physical altercation ever took place.

“But I’m not the kind of person to get violent with anybody.

“Also, it was always different people so they claimed they couldn’t log it as similar complaint.

“Eventually a police officer told me I should just move house to get away from it all.”

The mobile mechanic moved from Connaught Mews to Mayville Road with his wife, 11-year-old daughter, and eight-year-old son in June 2015.

He said: “We weren’t left with any other choice......

Well you see, for something like that I wouldn't see any problem with a violent reaction from authorities.

Here there is clearly an innocent victim and hateful aggressors. People should push to adapt legislation in order to make punishment on harassment concerning race and religion more easily condemnable. Put a dozen of his harassers in prison for 3 months and he won't have any problem any more.

Though moving out was probably the best choice because no law can make people actually like you, but at least he shouldn't be harassed.
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Funny how you're revolted by Muslims trying to change the society to adapt it to their moral values...

That's the duty of a citizen...
It's not because you're lazy fucks taking the society you live in for granted that everyone is the same :/

You disagree? Then fight that. Muslims are about 5% of UK population and you're not even able to protect your vision of society?

http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/15093631.Father_forced_to_move_after_renouncing_Islam_calls_for_more_action_on_hate_crime/

 A MAN who claims he was forced to move house after renouncing his faith wants authorities to crack down on hate crime

Fasial Bashir, decided to stop practicing Islam in the summer of 2014 over claims the religion was too “hateful” and “sending out the wrong message”.

But when the 43-year-old stopped going to mosques in Ilford he claims he started getting harassment on a weekly basis.

The father-of-two said: “I heard religious people say things I couldn’t put up with any longer – it was all too hateful.

“These people knew I had become an atheist and soon enough my whole family was being harassed.

“At least once a week they would hang around near my house, shouting and swearing at me.

“I was called an apostate, a non-believer, I was told I had betrayed my God and my faith.”

“Sometimes they would even say things to my children – they are far too little to know what was happening, they were very frightened.”

Mr Bashir claims he would often call the police, but was told it was “just a nuisance” and was not a police matter until it was reported at least twice a month.

He said: “They always said they couldn’t really do anything because no physical altercation ever took place.

“But I’m not the kind of person to get violent with anybody.

“Also, it was always different people so they claimed they couldn’t log it as similar complaint.

“Eventually a police officer told me I should just move house to get away from it all.”

The mobile mechanic moved from Connaught Mews to Mayville Road with his wife, 11-year-old daughter, and eight-year-old son in June 2015.

He said: “We weren’t left with any other choice......
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Funny how you're revolted by Muslims trying to change the society to adapt it to their moral values...

That's the duty of a citizen...
It's not because you're lazy fucks taking the society you live in for granted that everyone is the same :/

You disagree? Then fight that. Muslims are about 5% of UK population and you're not even able to protect your vision of society?
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Female headteacher is forced to work from home following death threats from Muslim parents over her 'offensive clothes' amid fears there is a 'Trojan Horse' plot to 'Islamicise' the school

Hard to believe that this is happening in the United Kingdom. Now I am assured that the Western Europe is lost without any chance of a redemption. It is only a matter of time before the Eurabian Caliphate is established.
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Female headteacher is forced to work from home following death threats from Muslim parents over her 'offensive clothes' amid fears there is a 'Trojan Horse' plot to 'Islamicise' the school

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4239352/Muslim-parents-sent-school-headteacher-death-threats.html

According to an Oldham council report, seen by The Sunday Times, she wrote that she had a 'very strong reasons to believe that . . . a "Trojan Horse" agenda [is] being played out'. 

And the head teachers' union, the NAHT, said it was 'supporting a number of members in the Oldham area with a variety of apparent Trojan Horse issues'.

The council report says the school's 2013 parent-governor Nasim Ashraf hosted 'Islamic teaching sessions' at the school while his wife, Hafizan Zaman, 'made remarks to Asian staff members that they should be wearing a veil and covering their heads'.

They took exception to Hindi music being played in class, were angered by sex education and were accused of intimidating staff and undermining the headteacher.

The report said they tried to mobilise parents to 'secure changes at the school to reflect their interpretation of Islam' but did not suggest they were involved in the violent threats.

Ashraf's sister Shasta Khan is serving eight years in jail for plotting to attack Jews in Manchester.
A section of Clarksfield school's website titled British values only reads: 'coming soon'

A section of Clarksfield school's website titled British values only reads: 'coming soon'

She's friends on Facebook with Tahir Alam, the architect of a similar 'Trojan Horse' plot on several schools in Birmingham in 2014.

In the plot activists launched a campaign to oust headteachers using dirty tricks such as spreading false allegations and packing governing bodies with their supporters. 

Tahir Alam and Razwan Faraz were part of the 'Park View Brotherhood' of teachers, which exchanged some 3,000 messages in a WhatsApp group, including offensive comments about British soldiers, the Boston Marathon bombings and the murder of soldier Lee Rigby.

Mr Faraz, a former deputy headteacher of the Trojan-Horse linked Nansen Primary School, is under an interim teaching ban, while Mr Alam was banned from any involvement with schools by the Department for Education (DfE).

Clarksfield Primary's Chairman of Governors Saima Kausar and Mrs O'Donnell declined to comment.

Ashraf denied any Trojan Horse plot but said he wanted to remove Mrs O'Donnell because the school was failing.

A spokesman for Oldham council, cabinet member for education Amanda Chadderton, said: 'We take any allegations about our schools very seriously. The report into an Oldham primary school found no basis to the "Trojan Horse" allegations.'
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Like Christianity, Jeudaism and most other major religions, Islam is founded on principles of violence (and more so, intolerance).  However this should not be used to attack the people who follow the religion.  The vast majority of Muslims in the West are tolerant people and if you dislike religious people based on just one part of their character you ignore the rest of their lives.

When people go and protest against Islam or against Muslims they are harbouring a battle because innocent people, rightly, feel personally attacked.  This creates a cycle of hatred which potentially results in violence and more hatred between two sides who both believe they have a moral high ground when neither ever did.

I don't agree with you.
If you read bible, specially New Testament, you will see that Jesus talked about peace, love, forgiveness etc.
In Quran, Mohamed talked also about love and peace and Jihad originally didn't mean war against others but fight to become better believer and better person.
Unfortunately, most believers don't read holy books and don't understand their own religion.
Some priests manipulate with people and share the message of fear and hate instead of peace, love and forgiveness.
So, true Islam and true Christianity don't talk about hate and violence.


Once the Christians had misinterpreted the Bible, and this ended the Crusades, and now Muslims misinterpret the Qur'an and make Jihad. It seems to me that any religion manipulates people and sowing enmity and death when it is profitable. Can ban them all?
Minor correction, Muslims seized and ruled western lands through War, and Christians started the Crusades to get them back. 

And now the Muslims are getting aggressive again, aren't they?

I think it is not the misinterpretation of the book that had lead to crusades and jihad. Those things in history has different situation with us today and so we cannot use history as our reference to the conflict that is happening today. The conflicts today are cause by half asses Christians and Muslims, by this it means that they are baptized muslim and christian but are not religious followers of the doctrines and the book. If they are religious people then they will know that Islam and Christianity is a religion of peace and love and not of terrorism and hate.
It seems to me that since religion was involved in politics of the world have fallen to terror. Religion makes people fanatics, and fanatics are easy to control. Muslims now went on the attack and why such a large number of Muslims terrorists.
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Like Christianity, Jeudaism and most other major religions, Islam is founded on principles of violence (and more so, intolerance).  However this should not be used to attack the people who follow the religion.  The vast majority of Muslims in the West are tolerant people and if you dislike religious people based on just one part of their character you ignore the rest of their lives.

When people go and protest against Islam or against Muslims they are harbouring a battle because innocent people, rightly, feel personally attacked.  This creates a cycle of hatred which potentially results in violence and more hatred between two sides who both believe they have a moral high ground when neither ever did.

I don't agree with you.
If you read bible, specially New Testament, you will see that Jesus talked about peace, love, forgiveness etc.
In Quran, Mohamed talked also about love and peace and Jihad originally didn't mean war against others but fight to become better believer and better person.
Unfortunately, most believers don't read holy books and don't understand their own religion.
Some priests manipulate with people and share the message of fear and hate instead of peace, love and forgiveness.
So, true Islam and true Christianity don't talk about hate and violence.


Once the Christians had misinterpreted the Bible, and this ended the Crusades, and now Muslims misinterpret the Qur'an and make Jihad. It seems to me that any religion manipulates people and sowing enmity and death when it is profitable. Can ban them all?
Minor correction, Muslims seized and ruled western lands through War, and Christians started the Crusades to get them back. 

And now the Muslims are getting aggressive again, aren't they?

I think it is not the misinterpretation of the book that had lead to crusades and jihad. Those things in history has different situation with us today and so we cannot use history as our reference to the conflict that is happening today. The conflicts today are cause by half asses Christians and Muslims, by this it means that they are baptized muslim and christian but are not religious followers of the doctrines and the book. If they are religious people then they will know that Islam and Christianity is a religion of peace and love and not of terrorism and hate.
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Who and that I wasn't told but I have my eyes there. Most terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims. In addition, the laws that exist in Muslim countries have nothing to do with the rules accepted in the civilized world.
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Minor correction, Muslims seized and ruled western lands through War, and Christians started the Crusades to get them back. 

And now the Muslims are getting aggressive again, aren't they?

Last time, it didn't worked out that well for them. They (Ottoman Empire) invaded Europe, and tried to impose the Islamic culture on the Europeans. The native males were forcibly recruited in to the Ottoman army, while the most beautiful native women were shipped to Anatolia, to serve in the harems of ugly Turks. Eventually, the natives drove off the Muslim invaders (with the help from the Russian Empire).

This time, they are trying a different approach. Now it is an indirect invasion through the demographic Jihad.


Dude wtf?
It's like you're saying they're actually invading us in an organized way xD
Maybe the explanation is elsewhere no?
Maybe the explanation COULD be that they're leaving poor invaded countries (invaded by who? That's an interesting question) to get to rich peaceful ones.
What's so incredible about that? Wouldn't you do the same?
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I listened to the Quran on audiobook once, it was awful. One long rant of us vs them fight fight fight. When your religion deigns a violent pedophile as the ideal man to emulate and the prophet of God, you're going to have problems with the people who follow his teachings.
Interesting idea, to listen to the junk on audio book rather than try reading it.

Oh Spendulus, you're still here?
One could wonder why you haven't reacted to the fact that, again, one of your "affirmation" has been debunked as being another nonsense.
But I guess that's just because you didn't see the answer.

You couldn't be wrong on something could you? xD
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It only seems that way at first glance. Actually in Europe now a lot of supporters of extreme right-wing movements. The Europeans are beginning to resist the resettlement of migrants and very soon it will end.

The support levels usually stagnate at 10% to 15% (Germany, Netherlands.etc), or at 25% to 30% (France, Austria.etc). The far-right is unable to cross that threshold. That means that they will never come to power.
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I listened to the Quran on audiobook once, it was awful. One long rant of us vs them fight fight fight. When your religion deigns a violent pedophile as the ideal man to emulate and the prophet of God, you're going to have problems with the people who follow his teachings.
I don't believe in any God, but it seems to me that Islam is the most aggressive religion in the world at the moment. I am sure that this could not be left unpunished. It is better to ban Islam in the countries that suffer the most from Muslim terrorists.
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