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To what extent is it acceptable to use AI to enhance regular forum posts?

Using AI is not against the forum rules but it's just a simple display of ones inability to make a constructive feedback or comments the normal way it is believed that he's the writer of such, why should you make use of AI if not that you're incapacitated to make a good construct of English grammatical words, but you will rather choose to seek for the help of a bot system which you reference not in helping you with your write ups, though it's not plagiarism but it's as good as making plagiarism because you're not the real author to those content, that's why you could discover many users found in this category were being given neutral tag to show what source is their contents coming from.
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If there's a way to verify my posts using a tool, anyone is free to do so. However, if the judgment to conclude that I use AI is based on finding some phrases that I use similarly to AI, I think that's not fair.
To be frank with you, I don't also know how those who check for such stuff do that. I hope it's not by coincidence of word or phrase usage as that's more likely to get many wrongly accused.

I don't really understand why people get so offended and care so much about using AI or not.... Go for it if your want, if people get annoyed it's their problem and not yours and they should change focus in life.
That post of yours isn't the right way to look at this issue. Users shouldn't be allowed to run amok. There are rules and rules are meant to be followed. The forum has come a long way and it's a community effort. Don't make it look like anyone is trying to claim more importance than the other because they're insisting the right things be done. Using AI is borrowing someone's idea and making it look like it's yours just like blatant hardcore plagiarism is. This forum wants originality, or at best one should lay credence to where one gets one's information if it's not originally from one.
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If I wanted to read AI diarrhea, I wouldn't need Bitcointalk. I want to read from humans, that's what forums were created for.
What's next? Only AIs posting and only AIs reading? What's the point?
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As you can see in my profile, I was tagged by "actmyname" as a member of the spammers list. Consequently, I've been considering that perhaps the quality of my posts doesn't meet the forum's standards. Now, I know you might wonder, "Where have you been? It's been a long time since I've seen you" (referring to my account's activity). But don't worry about that. Let's focus on the main topic, which is not just about me but also for other users who want to enhance their writing.

I've noticed some posts relating to AI-generated content, so I'd like to ask: Is it against the forum's rules to use AI-generated content? For example, I want to compose a sentence or comment on a topic where I'd like to share my knowledge. However, since English is not my native language, sometimes what I'm thinking might not translate well in writing. I find AI to be a helpful tool for improving my writing, and I believe it could also make the moderators' job easier.

To what extent is it acceptable to use AI to enhance regular forum posts?

OP I can smell AI all over you as I read your post, why on earth would you want to get your hands in that same place that's written DANGER? You know how it will end if caught, right?
You haven't recovered from the tag they gave you and you're speaking about using AI to advance your post, I can't say positive things about you as it seems like you have already made up your mind into using AI to help your post, but you just want to know what other users would say about your idea.
Avoid what would get you into more trouble, you have what it takes to give better post but you just don't know it yet.
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I don't really understand why people get so offended and care so much about using AI or not.... Go for it if your want, if people get annoyed it's their problem and not yours and they should change focus in life.
No active member here is owner of this place, we have just been here longer or shorter then other, don't forget Satoshi created BTC and this forum for everyone and not only for a few.

But I don't think you need to use AI because your English is more then good, if you don't know how to spell some words you can use Google Translate for help (I often do that).
Myself have never used AI tho, but personally I don't care at all if people using AI or not,  in the end it's up to me what I choose to do when I spending time here.  Cool

Just ignore negativity and welcome positivity.  Smiley
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As you can see in my profile, I was tagged by "actmyname" as a member of the spammers list.
That tag was way back in 2021 (that's two years now) and it simply was for you to improve on your posting style. Though I don't know if actmyname makes out time to review those tags anymore as there could be users who've improved over the years after he left them tags or he just left the tags there as an indelible mark and never to be reviewed (that would be very bad). However, using Ai so as to be seen as improved isn't the way to go. It's deceitful and I believe that's why this forum frowns at it. Just be yourself.
Yeah, that's unfortunate. I think it should be reviewed, but since we don't know the criteria by which they evaluate posts that could potentially remove the tag, it will remain a mystery whether the tag will be lifted or not.

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For example, I want to compose a sentence or comment on a topic where I'd like to share my knowledge. However, since English is not my native language, sometimes what I'm thinking might not translate well in writing.
From where I stand, your English isn't that bad. Except if this post is also AI-generated. I think what anyone might find wrong with your posts, if at all, isn't the English per se but the way you put your thoughts down. You should work on your thought pattern.

I'm confident it's not the case. If there's a way to verify my posts using a tool, anyone is free to do so. However, if the judgment to conclude that I use AI is based on finding some phrases that I use similarly to AI, I think that's not fair.

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Your English is fine.

Thanks, that's because I now worked as a call center agent.  Grin




Still have 1 merit left in the bank, @BabyBandit, thanks for the encouragement.

I'm going to take a short break for now, have a few beers, and then check back later. I hope I won't become too tipsy to stay on topic.
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As you can see in my profile, I was tagged by "actmyname" as a member of the spammers list.
That tag was way back in 2021 (that's two years now) and it simply was for you to improve on your posting style. Though I don't know if actmyname makes out time to review those tags anymore as there could be users who've improved over the years after he left them tags or he just left the tags there as an indelible mark and never to be reviewed (that would be very bad). However, using Ai so as to be seen as improved isn't the way to go. It's deceitful and I believe that's why this forum frowns at it. Just be yourself.

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For example, I want to compose a sentence or comment on a topic where I'd like to share my knowledge. However, since English is not my native language, sometimes what I'm thinking might not translate well in writing.
From where I stand, your English isn't that bad. Except if this post is also AI-generated. I think what anyone might find wrong with your posts, if at all, isn't the English per se but the way you put your thoughts down. You should work on your thought pattern. Your English is fine.
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This is where I'd position myself as well. However, I've come across posts that seemed to contain phrases commonly associated with AI-generated content, even though anyone could use those phrases. I believe that people can generally discern if an entire post has been generated solely by AI, don't you think?
Anyone else get that sense?  Am I being paranoid here?  I seriously doubt I am, and if that's true it's baffling to me why OP would create a thread like this, which just invites scrutiny from shitposter/account buyer hunters.  Any good detectives want to delve into this one?

It's difficult to tell whether the statement above is AI generated content or not. But I can see that it has everything common and follow AI content pattern of writing. OP has confirmed that English is not his native language just like the majority of us here. But I'm still wondering why Op wants to appear perfect in the forum by thinking about polishing his grammar using AI.
Who said I want to appear perfect? I just want my statements to be more readable, so they won't strain the reader's eyes. And please don't think that just because English is not my native language, I would struggle to write in English. Our country has many BPO companies, like call centers, and they choose us because we can easily learn English to fluency. If you find my posting style already looks perfect, then I would say it's not yet for me. If possible, I'd like to polish the mistakes that can be seen. But I'd like to repeat it again, I'm not using AI to post for me.
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This is where I'd position myself as well. However, I've come across posts that seemed to contain phrases commonly associated with AI-generated content, even though anyone could use those phrases. I believe that people can generally discern if an entire post has been generated solely by AI, don't you think?
Anyone else get that sense?  Am I being paranoid here?  I seriously doubt I am, and if that's true it's baffling to me why OP would create a thread like this, which just invites scrutiny from shitposter/account buyer hunters.  Any good detectives want to delve into this one?

It's difficult to tell whether the statement above is AI generated content or not. But I can see that it has everything common and follow AI content pattern of writing. OP has confirmed that English is not his native language just like the majority of us here. But I'm still wondering why Op wants to appear perfect in the forum by thinking about polishing his grammar using AI.

The truth is that nobody is interested in your grammar. In fact, only few users in the forum follow grammar rules and punctuation properly while making a post or reply. The rest of us are just panel beating English the way we know how to. What matter is the message you are passing to the forum. We are here to learn one thing or the other, using AI is like deceiving yourself to be perfect writer while you are not.

I know it's sometimes difficult to understand some posts due to poor English construction but you'll not improve in your English if you rely on AI to make your writing appear perfect. Imagine yourself not having access to AI and you need to express yourself. I suggest you use the AI off the forum to improve yourself but not to make comments or post in the forum. Grammarly is also a good tools to check and improve your grammar construction.
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Is it because of my broken English that I was tagged, I guess, so I want to ensure it doesn't happen again. If there's a way to make improvements, such as correcting spelling and making minor adjustments, a tool would be helpful. My main point here is that the thoughts would still remain, just as I originally created them. I'm seeking some assistance in eliminating these errors or improving the text.

I haven't checked your post history, but I totally doubt it was your broken English.

As for using AI to correct your English errors, it should be fine (depending on the extent, because even the AI can misunderstand what you're trying to say and might output something different); but you might be flagged by those AI detector software.
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Big NOOOO! You cannot use AI to generate content. It's strictly against the forum's rules. Anybody can do that; it's basically copy paste content. There is no creativity in it. One thing the forum really wants is authentic, original content. Not someone or some tool generated shitty things. They don't have any value to it.

As long as it's your own writing, your own research, your own ideas, and your own theory, you are good to go. Yes, you can use AI, but only to grasp knowledge or ideas about something you want to write about or research. But you cannot just copy it.

Suppose you made a thread about crypto mining. You asked Chat-GPT to write a bunch of words for mining, and it wrote them, and you simply posted them in this forum. Now if some user, suppose me, asked you further about mining, which I don't know, how would you react? Will you be able to answer my question? Of course not; you don't have knowledge of mining. You just used AI to make content.

I understand English is not your native language. You are not alone; I too don't speak English as my native language, and a lot of forum users don't. So what? We taught ourselves to read and write English. If you are unsure of your English, then use Google Translate to check the meaning (not to post). First, teach yourself English, then think of engaging in the Global Boards. For now, be active on your local board.

You can use various tools to fix your writing. There are no rules against it. By fixing, I meant grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc. I normally don't use anything, but when I'm making my own post or making a big reply like this one, I use Grammerly or Quilbot to fix any problems.
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Anyone else get that sense?  Am I being paranoid here?  I seriously doubt I am, and if that's true it's baffling to me why OP would create a thread like this, which just invites scrutiny from shitposter/account buyer hunters.
That was my thought exactly after reading few of OP's posts.
I'd like to apologize if that was the impression, but please understand that I have no intention of causing any harm to the forum. In fact, I want to make it more organized and welcoming to attract more forum members. This topic is one that I find interesting, so I brought it up here. I'm just a regular member and not involved in any campaign or trading with other members here, so there's no reason to question my reputation. Please see it as a topic I've brought up not just for my benefit but for everyone to evaluate the situation.


Any good detectives want to delve into this one?
I don't think that is against forum rules to use AI tools to correct grammar mistakes so therefore I don't think there's anything to "detect". At least not for know.
I can guarantee that there's nothing to worry about. You don't need to waste your time on this. I'm just passing through as I'm quite busy with my real life endeavors. However, if I receive some encouraging statements, I might find myself getting more involved in the forum too. LOL.

The tone of your replies seems very negative to me. I didn't intend to plagiarize or let an AI do the posting; it was just a simple question, and I'd appreciate some honest and sincere answers.
Well, you asked for an opinion and he gave you one. I suggest you to grow a thicker skin if you plan to remain being active here because people may say much worse things to you and you will have to deal with it.
I don't really need to grow a thicker skin because I'm quite a sensitive guy, and it wouldn't help anyway. They say that words can be sharper than swords.

Just kidding; yeah, I will.


That's crazy. Why would I use a translator if I can write in English? Your suspicion is entirely baseless.
There are some known forum members that admitted using Google translate (despite knowing English) in order to express themselves better so that woulnd't been something we haven't seen before.

At the current state, I believe I'm better than them because my concern was solely on grammar. I can express my thoughts perfectly from my personal perspective. However, I can't anticipate how readers might perceive it. That's why I was asking if I could use some help from this AI tool.
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Anyone else get that sense?  Am I being paranoid here?  I seriously doubt I am, and if that's true it's baffling to me why OP would create a thread like this, which just invites scrutiny from shitposter/account buyer hunters.
That was my thought exactly after reading few of OP's posts.


Any good detectives want to delve into this one?
I don't think that is against forum rules to use AI tools to correct grammar mistakes so therefore I don't think there's anything to "detect". At least not for know.


The tone of your replies seems very negative to me. I didn't intend to plagiarize or let an AI do the posting; it was just a simple question, and I'd appreciate some honest and sincere answers.
Well, you asked for an opinion and he gave you one. I suggest you to grow a thicker skin if you plan to remain being active here because people may say much worse things to you and you will have to deal with it.


That's crazy. Why would I use a translator if I can write in English? Your suspicion is entirely baseless.
There are some known forum members that admitted using Google translate (despite knowing English) in order to express themselves better so that woulnd't been something we haven't seen before.
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That statement above is of such higher quality in terms of English proficiency than your posts from back in 2017 that I have to wonder if you're either already using some kind of AI tool to polish your shortcomings OR you somehow got your hands on this account which used to belong to someone else.  

A third possibility is that you've improved your English, but I don't think I've ever seen that happen with an account that's recently woken up from a long break.

The fourth possibility, and to my mind the most likely, is that he is using an automatic translator such as Deepl.com. The level of reliability is very high nowadays and they are used massively on and off the forum. He doesn't break any rules if he does that as far as I know.

That's crazy. Why would I use a translator if I can write in English? Your suspicion is entirely baseless.



Grammarly, like the other members suggest would help you in grammar.

So AI tool can't be use to function like Grammarly?



So rather than use AI, you need to learn about Bitcoin more.


Now, this is the kind of post that is off-topic. We are in the meta section, not discussing Bitcoin. Of course, I am aware of Bitcoin. Please focus on the concern I raised; it's not related to investment or any such matters. I'm sure some members here use AI to check their grammar, right? Using it to cheat by plagiarizing is the wrong approach.

The idea of using AI should be welcomed, but it must be within certain limits. This is why I asked in my initial post:

To what extent is it acceptable to use AI to enhance regular forum posts?



Please, everyone, read my post carefully and understand it before making a comment. It seems like you're eager to comment, assuming I intend to use AI to do the posting job. You're mistaken if you think that way. Let's be more objective.
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Nope, using AI wouldn't help you, take a look with this report where there was a user wrote "knowledge cutoff", this phrase is really uncommon to use.

My English isn't perfect and sometime I mixing up my words, so I think the moderators weren't delete your posts because the way you wrote, but it's because the quality of the post. So rather than use AI, you need to learn about Bitcoin more.

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To blatantly use AI-generated queries or text it and just paste it will not help. AI could help you understand what you are posting about but not directly copy and paste it. I believe it can be a tool that can help you learn about the things you have yet to understand. Most importantly, you need to understand it and fact-check if the AI has generated a factual thing because you can never really know unless you thoroughly do it.

It can improve your posting quality but not in the way that you think. It's all about having your thoughts about it and diving in deep into the topics with your thoughts.

Grammarly, like the other members suggest would help you in grammar.
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That statement above is of such higher quality in terms of English proficiency than your posts from back in 2017 that I have to wonder if you're either already using some kind of AI tool to polish your shortcomings OR you somehow got your hands on this account which used to belong to someone else. 

A third possibility is that you've improved your English, but I don't think I've ever seen that happen with an account that's recently woken up from a long break.

The fourth possibility, and to my mind the most likely, is that he is using an automatic translator such as Deepl.com. The level of reliability is very high nowadays and they are used massively on and off the forum. He doesn't break any rules if he does that as far as I know.
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As you can see in my profile, I was tagged by "actmyname" as a member of the spammers list. Consequently, I've been considering that perhaps the quality of my posts doesn't meet the forum's standards. Now, I know you might wonder, "Where have you been? It's been a long time since I've seen you" (referring to my account's activity). But don't worry about that. Let's focus on the main topic, which is not just about me but also for other users who want to enhance their writing.

I've noticed some posts relating to AI-generated content, so I'd like to ask: Is it against the forum's rules to use AI-generated content? For example, I want to compose a sentence or comment on a topic where I'd like to share my knowledge. However, since English is not my native language, sometimes what I'm thinking might not translate well in writing. I find AI to be a helpful tool for improving my writing, and I believe it could also make the moderators' job easier.

To what extent is it acceptable to use AI to enhance regular forum posts?

For me it's better to try my best rather than cheating or plagiarizing other contents,  using AI can make our post easier and faster but always remember that using AI we can not express our own ideas, also we must remember that cheaters always win but never learn. While you are using your mind to construct those words even though in the beginning it's not perfect but soon for sure you will learn and you will become a quality posters .
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This is where I'd position myself as well. However, I've come across posts that seemed to contain phrases commonly associated with AI-generated content, even though anyone could use those phrases. I believe that people can generally discern if an entire post has been generated solely by AI, don't you think?
That statement above is of such higher quality in terms of English proficiency than your posts from back in 2017 that I have to wonder if you're either already using some kind of AI tool to polish your shortcomings OR you somehow got your hands on this account which used to belong to someone else.  
So, you're comparing my 2017 post to the present? Wow, that was at least 5 years ago, and a lot has happened in my life since then. I've become a professional and gained more work experience, which has helped me grow as a person. I don't have much time for the forum anymore; I'm just visiting because I've heard the bull run is coming. While browsing some random posts, I came across topics related to AI, and that's why I brought up this subject.

The tone of your replies seems very negative to me. I didn't intend to plagiarize or let an AI do the posting; it was just a simple question, and I'd appreciate some honest and sincere answers.


A third possibility is that you've improved your English, but I don't think I've ever seen that happen with an account that's recently woken up from a long break.

Anyone else get that sense?  Am I being paranoid here?  I seriously doubt I am, and if that's true it's baffling to me why OP would create a thread like this, which just invites scrutiny from shitposter/account buyer hunters.  Any good detectives want to delve into this one?

Please don't be paranoid, as this thing I brought up is happening already in this forum and this topic is not only for me but for the community as a whole.

Honestly, I found the answer I needed. It doesn't necessarily have to be a lengthy reply, but it's exactly what I was looking for.

And I'd like to thank this guy below for having the smartest reply.
IMO:

Bad: "Write a response to this question asked on a forum: "
Okay: "Fix the spelling mistakes on this post I just wrote:


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Is it because of my broken English that I was tagged, I guess, so I want to ensure it doesn't happen again. If there's a way to make improvements, such as correcting spelling and making minor adjustments, a tool would be helpful. My main point here is that the thoughts would still remain, just as I originally created them. I'm seeking some assistance in eliminating these errors or improving the text.

I doubt the reason why you were tagged as a spammer had anything to do with your grammar but rather the number of your posts that has been deleted by moderators.



 If you want to improve your grammar then install grammarly in your system, it will provide you with some suggestions that will make your text more understandable. It’s far more better than just going to a “text spinner” and automatically paraphrased everything you wrote before, with grammarly you’ll get to learn what to do to your sentences the next you want to make a post.
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