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Quote from: babo on September 07, 2023, 08:35:35 AM

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Napoli won the title last season. More importantly, Napoli's dominance was evident throughout the season. The team has consistently played well since the start of the season and won. We have not seen a worse performance from Napoli in any match and also Napoli had a bigger points gap than other teams. And so Napoli fans will have high expectations from the team this season as well. But I don't think new coach Garcia will be able to live up to these expectations. Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus have strengthened themselves. And the fact that they are playing for the title this season makes it much more difficult for Napoli to dominate Serie A. I think the Bon Juventus team is stronger than Napoli this season at Inter Milan.

Napoli certainly played very well last season and also scored several goals with Victor unleashed.
but I remind you that football is also a little bit of luck, and Napoli had it (it fits).
this year the competitors are very tough and it won't be as easy as last season, see the match against Lazio

The Napoli team is not able to perform as well as the last season this season. Their performance is slow. I also don't think Coach Garcia is doing a very good job. Luciano Spalletti was an excellent coach. If he was still the coach of Napoli then maybe we could have expected a stable performance from Napoli this season as well. But Garcia is not yet familiar with the group. This is why Napoli had to admit defeat against Lazio. However, Napoli will remain at the top of the table for some time. Because their opponents are relatively weak in the upcoming matches. When Napoli perform against Inter Milan, Juventus and AC Milan, it will be clear how much the team deserves to win the title.

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This season Inter, Milan and Juventus all want to be competitive for the Serie A title. At least the kind of start these teams have made is telling me that. I don't exclude Napoli from this competition of course. I already see Napoli as one of the biggest title contenders. Losing to Lazio doesn't change anything and this loss happened last season as well by the way.

But it feels like Juventus might be likely to have problems after some time again. Their look in the last season was really worrying and I'm not sure yet about if they have solved the most of their issues. On the other hand they won't compete in any European competition this season. Hence they can concentrate on the Serie A easier. I think they will manage to finish in top 4. What is your opinion?

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Quote from: klidex on September 06, 2023, 08:25:06 AM

Not because you have lost faith in yourself, but it all depends on the injury you are experiencing if this injury is not too severe, as Victor Osimhen did last week, he has an injury that is not too severe, so he still has the courage to appear on the field, but for Eden Hazard's injury, it is the same as Paul Pogba a bit severe which made it difficult for him to appear in several matches and if he forced himself to compete it would be the same as worsening his injury so he chose to rest for a few matches so he could really recover and be able to appear strong again.
It could be that an injured player forces him to appear, but what Paul Pogba is afraid of is only if it gets worse and forces him to compete.[/left]

Believe me faith in your body, in your ability and willingness to perform physically, is one of the primary reasons why some players never fully recover from severe injuries. Taking on tough duels with players you know are very intense in their attacks is a different thing once you have been injured severely in the past. Sometimes little pieces of doubt remain on the minds of formerly injured players for a very long time and that can make a difference during a game.

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This is still early in the season and this is also Napoli's first defeat so why do you have to always compare the present and the past when coached by Spalletti, of course Napoli will not be as strong as last season when coached by Spalletti but I think the Napoli coaches are now trying to maintain performance this team, I think even though it is not as strong as last season but Napoli's performance has not decreased that much.
Napoli fans' expectations that are too high will certainly make it difficult for Rudi Garcia to make Napoli much stronger than last season. I think that's a mistake because every coach has a different way or style of play and you should also know that Napoli last season was very strong, so any coach will not be able to make it the same as only 1 season with Napoli.

It is true that Napoli loss to Lazio does not necessarily end their prospects of winning the title. They should keep concentrating on being consistent against lower ranked clubs because that was the key to their success the previous season. Garcia might need some time to get used to the quirks of Serie A, but it is important to be patient and allow him pick things up. Although Spalletti consistently provided satisfaction, it is crucial not to rush to judgement about Garcia. Napoli may be able to successfully defend their Scudetto title if their coach discovers a winning formula close to that of the Spalletti era. The fans perseverance and support will be crucial during this transitional phase.

Even though this is still the start of the competition, at least we already know Napoli's strength level this season under Garcia's control. I certainly really respect Napoli's success last season but for this season I am very pessimistic about their existence. If you don't say arrogant and exaggerated then I'm willing to bet that this season the Scudetto will belong to another team and it will be difficult for Napoli to maintain it.

This season the teams in Serie A have improved and of course these teams will compete fiercely to be the best. I am sure that this season Serie A will be very competitive and most likely will no longer be dominated by one team. Milan and Inter have a big chance to win the Scudetto and Juventus will try to improve their position.

There is no need to be pessimistic about their existence because there haven't been any threat against them neither is there a risk that they could be relegated. That is nonsense in my opinion.

But they might be facing much harder competition this season than they did last season. Last season they had the privilege to pretty quickly get into a comfort zone with a points advantage in the double digits. This is not normal and it was because Juventus Turin got their penalty and then AC Milan and Inter had their own type of issues and couldn't keep up with the winning streaks that Napoli performed all the time.

This season things have changed a little and AC Milan and Inter are ready to take on the challenge with any club from Serie A. It won't be as easy for Napoli as it was last season.

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 07, 2023, 08:26:39 AM

Lecce may be the only team that is quite underrated and currently they are in 4th position. They were able to beat Lazio early in the match and also held Fiorentina to a draw. That's especially impressive for a team that finished 16th last season. It seems that Lecce is very confident for this season and they don't want to experience the same thing as last season which required them to fight very hard to avoid the relegation zone. In the next match, Lecce will face quite comparable opponents, such as Monza and Genoa, but when they face Juventus, they may encounter difficulties again, because Allegri's troops are currently full of motivation to focus fully on the Serie A competition.

at the beginning the little ones play well, it often happens if you pay attention and follow the history of the various seasons
but then during the season fatigue sets in and also turnover which cannot be done given that they have a small squad
and the decline begins

in fact they must score as many points as possible to accumulate them in view of salvation

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Quote from: Unknown Op on September 07, 2023, 09:18:46 AM

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This is still early in the season and this is also Napoli's first defeat so why do you have to always compare the present and the past when coached by Spalletti, of course Napoli will not be as strong as last season when coached by Spalletti but I think the Napoli coaches are now trying to maintain performance this team, I think even though it is not as strong as last season but Napoli's performance has not decreased that much.
Napoli fans' expectations that are too high will certainly make it difficult for Rudi Garcia to make Napoli much stronger than last season. I think that's a mistake because every coach has a different way or style of play and you should also know that Napoli last season was very strong, so any coach will not be able to make it the same as only 1 season with Napoli.

It is true that Napoli loss to Lazio does not necessarily end their prospects of winning the title. They should keep concentrating on being consistent against lower ranked clubs because that was the key to their success the previous season. Garcia might need some time to get used to the quirks of Serie A, but it is important to be patient and allow him pick things up. Although Spalletti consistently provided satisfaction, it is crucial not to rush to judgement about Garcia. Napoli may be able to successfully defend their Scudetto title if their coach discovers a winning formula close to that of the Spalletti era. The fans perseverance and support will be crucial during this transitional phase.

It's not surprising that Lazio was able to topple Napoli so stunningly, at least that's according to his former Napoli coach Maurizio Sarri, Maurizio Sarri knows very well the style of play of the Napoli players who dominated the Italian League last season, so it's not surprising that this season it looks like Napoli are no longer it will be easy like last season, to continue dominating the Serie A League, because all clubs are racing to improve their defense and style of play which is so good to watch, even though this is only the beginning at least other clubs can tackle Napoli to go down to become the defending champions this season .

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 07, 2023, 08:26:39 AM

Lecce may be the only team that is quite underrated and currently they are in 4th position. They were able to beat Lazio early in the match and also held Fiorentina to a draw. That's especially impressive for a team that finished 16th last season. It seems that Lecce is very confident for this season and they don't want to experience the same thing as last season which required them to fight very hard to avoid the relegation zone. In the next match, Lecce will face quite comparable opponents, such as Monza and Genoa, but when they face Juventus, they may encounter difficulties again, because Allegri's troops are currently full of motivation to focus fully on the Serie A competition.

The most impressive result once lecce was able beating lazio. I never thought that if lecce would be able to do that. It's still early season. Even though this club is improving a lot but the real test is not yet coming at this moment.
Lecce needs to be consistent with its performance. I think that the situation can 180 degree different during the mid till end of season. Lecce finished at 16th position last season.
The club can perform better to be on the midtable this season. The consistency is the key must be owned by lecce.

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Quote from: hahay on September 07, 2023, 09:34:13 AM

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Napoli certainly played very well last season and also scored several goals with Victor unleashed.
but I remind you that football is also a little bit of luck, and Napoli had it (it fits).
this year the competitors are very tough and it won't be as easy as last season, see the match against Lazio

Napoli did lose to Lazio which is fair because the league just started , it's better to lose now than to lose when it matters most, after all last season Napoli did lost some games but went to win the league title.

Moreover their star man Victor Osimhen is recently nominated for the BAllon d' Or and it's the first time a African is nominated since George Weah of Sierra Leone. I am sure it will motivate him to perform better for Napoli for the next game against Genoa. This is a match that Napoli have to win because they lost against their noisy neighbors Lazio in their last game and they can't continue dropping points.

Last season Napoli did experience several defeats but, the defeat occurred when Napoli were already strong at the top of the standings. Unlike the current Napoli who suffered a defeat at the start of the season and of course, it is a sign that Napoli will not be as good as last season. Also, about Victor Osimhen being nominated in the Ballon d'Or I think, it is only for personal achievement only and will not boost the team's performance to be better too. Anyway, there are many players who are nominated for the Ballon d'Or but still, their play in their respective teams will not change for the better either.

that's exactly what I'm saying about it
this season we need more commitment from Napoli, it's not enough for them to do like last season, they have to put in more effort given that now the other teams are equipped to give them battle (I say give battle to Napoli)

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Quote from: Unknown Op on September 07, 2023, 09:18:46 AM

It is true that Napoli loss to Lazio does not necessarily end their prospects of winning the title. They should keep concentrating on being consistent against lower ranked clubs because that was the key to their success the previous season. Garcia might need some time to get used to the quirks of Serie A, but it is important to be patient and allow him pick things up. Although Spalletti consistently provided satisfaction, it is crucial not to rush to judgement about Garcia. Napoli may be able to successfully defend their Scudetto title if their coach discovers a winning formula close to that of the Spalletti era. The fans perseverance and support will be crucial during this transitional phase.

Even though this is still the start of the competition, at least we already know Napoli's strength level this season under Garcia's control. I certainly really respect Napoli's success last season but for this season I am very pessimistic about their existence. If you don't say arrogant and exaggerated then I'm willing to bet that this season the Scudetto will belong to another team and it will be difficult for Napoli to maintain it.

This season the teams in Serie A have improved and of course these teams will compete fiercely to be the best. I am sure that this season Serie A will be very competitive and most likely will no longer be dominated by one team. Milan and Inter have a big chance to win the Scudetto and Juventus will try to improve their position.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on September 07, 2023, 09:08:58 AM

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Defending the title will be more difficult than winning the title. Certainly with the status they hold makes them the leading contender because many people will see from their success last season which won the title with extraordinary. Expectations will also be high pinned on them and that's where the pressure will be even greater for them. How could it not be, because they are required to play as well as last season or even better than last season, that's what causes the pressure to come bigger. And if they can't handle it then they will become a club that may be far from expectations.

The problem of many people's uncertainty right now is about the new coach.
What Rudi Garcia does will definitely be very different from Spalletti although with almost the same goal but the way of treatment and work done will be very different and Napoli's first defeat in the early match will definitely make more people skeptical for Napoli because in the previous 2 seasons despite the best achievement last season but Napoli never even lost at least until 10 matches but this time it's different.
Although like that, actually with the composition of their players now with the statistics of this season's matches I still feel they will be one of the clubs that can compete again in Serie A.

Exactly, from the beginning, from the moment Napoli announced that they would no longer be working with Spaletti there were a lot of doubts, no wonder because it was an incredible season that they showed with Spaletti who was the brains of what Napoli showed last season. and maybe you even remember when they implemented the strategy when they started the match and the first ball was theirs, yes it was the Spaletti Kick Off. There are several coaches who implement it, but somehow the strategy was attached to Spaletti last season with Napoli.
So far what they've done with their new coach has been good, but let's see what the future holds.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on September 07, 2023, 07:26:31 AM

The most appropriate decision would be for Pogba to go to the Arab League because anything could happen with money, but in reality Poga still wants to stay and convince the management and Massimiliano Allegri that he still deserves to be at Juventus, now the decision is on both sides because Poga still has contract until 2026, of course if Poga leaves it will be detrimental to Poga. I hope that Pogba is able to overcome his injury which always interferes with his good performance this season and returns with the team.

The Juventus team has more central midfielders this season or players who can play in Pogba's position so Pogba's injury is actually not a big problem for Juventus because the team has quite a lot of substitute players. If Pogba has the desire to stay at Juventus, I think the temptation of money from the Saudi Arabian team will be ignored because Pogba's desire to stay is a pretty wise decision for now.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on September 07, 2023, 09:16:36 AM

Quote from: babo on September 07, 2023, 08:35:35 AM

Napoli certainly played very well last season and also scored several goals with Victor unleashed.
but I remind you that football is also a little bit of luck, and Napoli had it (it fits).
this year the competitors are very tough and it won't be as easy as last season, see the match against Lazio

Napoli did lose to Lazio which is fair because the league just started , it's better to lose now than to lose when it matters most, after all last season Napoli did lost some games but went to win the league title.

Moreover their star man Victor Osimhen is recently nominated for the BAllon d' Or and it's the first time a African is nominated since George Weah of Sierra Leone. I am sure it will motivate him to perform better for Napoli for the next game against Genoa. This is a match that Napoli have to win because they lost against their noisy neighbors Lazio in their last game and they can't continue dropping points.

Last season Napoli did experience several defeats but, the defeat occurred when Napoli were already strong at the top of the standings. Unlike the current Napoli who suffered a defeat at the start of the season and of course, it is a sign that Napoli will not be as good as last season. Also, about Victor Osimhen being nominated in the Ballon d'Or I think, it is only for personal achievement only and will not boost the team's performance to be better too. Anyway, there are many players who are nominated for the Ballon d'Or but still, their play in their respective teams will not change for the better either.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on September 07, 2023, 09:16:36 AM

Quote from: babo on September 07, 2023, 08:35:35 AM

Napoli certainly played very well last season and also scored several goals with Victor unleashed.
but I remind you that football is also a little bit of luck, and Napoli had it (it fits).
this year the competitors are very tough and it won't be as easy as last season, see the match against Lazio

Napoli did lose to Lazio which is fair because the league just started , it's better to lose now than to lose when it matters most, after all last season Napoli did lost some games but went to win the league title.

Moreover their star man Victor Osimhen is recently nominated for the BAllon d' Or and it's the first time a African is nominated since George Weah of Sierra Leone. I am sure it will motivate him to perform better for Napoli for the next game against Genoa. This is a match that Napoli have to win because they lost against their noisy neighbors Lazio in their last game and they can't continue dropping points.

Agreed, early season results are not a definitive indication of how the season will end. All teams have their own challenges, and what's most important is how they respond to defeat and keep improving throughout the season.
With the new coach, Rudi Garcia, Napoli changed their playing style a little and that took time. The process of adapting and adjusting the team's playing style takes time.
Early season results are not a definitive indication of how the season will end. All teams have their challenges, and what matters most is how they respond to the losses and continue to improve throughout the season.
*and a slight correction George Weah is not from Sierra Leone but from Liberia

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This is still early in the season and this is also Napoli's first defeat so why do you have to always compare the present and the past when coached by Spalletti, of course Napoli will not be as strong as last season when coached by Spalletti but I think the Napoli coaches are now trying to maintain performance this team, I think even though it is not as strong as last season but Napoli's performance has not decreased that much.
Napoli fans' expectations that are too high will certainly make it difficult for Rudi Garcia to make Napoli much stronger than last season. I think that's a mistake because every coach has a different way or style of play and you should also know that Napoli last season was very strong, so any coach will not be able to make it the same as only 1 season with Napoli.

It is true that Napoli loss to Lazio does not necessarily end their prospects of winning the title. They should keep concentrating on being consistent against lower ranked clubs because that was the key to their success the previous season. Garcia might need some time to get used to the quirks of Serie A, but it is important to be patient and allow him pick things up. Although Spalletti consistently provided satisfaction, it is crucial not to rush to judgement about Garcia. Napoli may be able to successfully defend their Scudetto title if their coach discovers a winning formula close to that of the Spalletti era. The fans perseverance and support will be crucial during this transitional phase.

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Quote from: babo on September 07, 2023, 08:35:35 AM

Napoli certainly played very well last season and also scored several goals with Victor unleashed.
but I remind you that football is also a little bit of luck, and Napoli had it (it fits).
this year the competitors are very tough and it won't be as easy as last season, see the match against Lazio

Napoli did lose to Lazio which is fair because the league just started , it's better to lose now than to lose when it matters most, after all last season Napoli did lost some games but went to win the league title.

Moreover their star man Victor Osimhen is recently nominated for the BAllon d' Or and it's the first time a African is nominated since George Weah of Sierra Leone. I am sure it will motivate him to perform better for Napoli for the next game against Genoa. This is a match that Napoli have to win because they lost against their noisy neighbors Lazio in their last game and they can't continue dropping points.

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I think that at this time it is not very suitable if Napoli is said to be a competitor, Napoli's current condition is the defending champion and for competitors it should apply to clubs other than Napoli.
Talking about Milan and Inter better I think this depends on our perspective as people who see because in the end we have our own views in determining who is the best club.
The match next week will feature an attractive derby and this can be one of the stumbling blocks for Inter or Milan because I still feel that one of them will lose and Napoli are waiting for this trivial matter.

But for this scudetto is still too early, although it is not wrong to give a favorite to a big club to become a champion candidate.

Defending the title will be more difficult than winning the title. Certainly with the status they hold makes them the leading contender because many people will see from their success last season which won the title with extraordinary. Expectations will also be high pinned on them and that's where the pressure will be even greater for them. How could it not be, because they are required to play as well as last season or even better than last season, that's what causes the pressure to come bigger. And if they can't handle it then they will become a club that may be far from expectations.

The problem of many people's uncertainty right now is about the new coach.
What Rudi Garcia does will definitely be very different from Spalletti although with almost the same goal but the way of treatment and work done will be very different and Napoli's first defeat in the early match will definitely make more people skeptical for Napoli because in the previous 2 seasons despite the best achievement last season but Napoli never even lost at least until 10 matches but this time it's different.
Although like that, actually with the composition of their players now with the statistics of this season's matches I still feel they will be one of the clubs that can compete again in Serie A.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on September 07, 2023, 07:26:31 AM

The most appropriate decision would be for Pogba to go to the Arab League because anything could happen with money, but in reality Poga still wants to stay and convince the management and Massimiliano Allegri that he still deserves to be at Juventus, now the decision is on both sides because Poga still has contract until 2026, of course if Poga leaves it will be detrimental to Poga. I hope that Pogba is able to overcome his injury which always interferes with his good performance this season and returns with the team.

Players who have suffered serious injuries will often experience injuries. That is something that cannot be denied. Kaka, is an example. When he was in Milan, he often suffered injuries, moving to Madrid, these problems were always the cause for him not being able to perform optimally. Pogba may be experiencing something similar. He is a good player, unfortunately Juventus cannot currently use him as a main player due to his injury. From this data^[1], Pogba has suffered 2 injuries which kept him out for more than 100 days. Last season, Pogba suffered 7 injuries. So, I think he has become a player who is very easily injured.

_{[1]: https://www.transfermarkt.com/paul-pogba/verletzungen/spieler/122153}

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Quote from: rozak on September 07, 2023, 07:31:09 AM

Quote from: bitcampaign on September 07, 2023, 07:26:31 AM

The most appropriate decision would be for Pogba to go to the Arab League because anything could happen with money, but in reality Poga still wants to stay and convince the management and Massimiliano Allegri that he still deserves to be at Juventus, now the decision is on both sides because Poga still has contract until 2026, of course if Poga leaves it will be detrimental to Poga. I hope that Pogba is able to overcome his injury which always interferes with his good performance this season and returns with the team.

however Juve is the party that also loses the most in the Pogba injury case. His contract is still long but he probably won't help Juve much this season because of the injury problems he is experiencing.
there are even rumors regarding the problem that Juve will reconsider Pogba's contract, until there are rumors of cutting Pogba's salary due to injuries that have always been experienced.
Indeed, no one wants to get injured on purpose, and Pogba definitely prefers playing on the field. but Pogba's luck is not that good.

Even though Juve feels disadvantaged because of Paul Pogba's injury, however, no player wants to have this problem and this injury happened accidentally, so Juve should be able to accept this situation because after all, this situation is the responsibility of Juve who have chosen this player.
I'm sure Paul Pogba has very good talent and will provide his skills to improve Juve's performance but unfortunately everything doesn't go according to plan and actually cutting the salaries of injured players doesn't seem like the best way because it will definitely make these players feel unappreciated.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 07, 2023, 05:16:13 AM

Napoli won the title last season. More importantly, Napoli's dominance was evident throughout the season. The team has consistently played well since the start of the season and won. We have not seen a worse performance from Napoli in any match and also Napoli had a bigger points gap than other teams. And so Napoli fans will have high expectations from the team this season as well. But I don't think new coach Garcia will be able to live up to these expectations. Inter Milan, AC Milan and Juventus have strengthened themselves. And the fact that they are playing for the title this season makes it much more difficult for Napoli to dominate Serie A. I think the Bon Juventus team is stronger than Napoli this season at Inter Milan.

Napoli certainly played very well last season and also scored several goals with Victor unleashed.
but I remind you that football is also a little bit of luck, and Napoli had it (it fits).
this year the competitors are very tough and it won't be as easy as last season, see the match against Lazio

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Lecce may be the only team that is quite underrated and currently they are in 4th position. They were able to beat Lazio early in the match and also held Fiorentina to a draw. That's especially impressive for a team that finished 16th last season. It seems that Lecce is very confident for this season and they don't want to experience the same thing as last season which required them to fight very hard to avoid the relegation zone. In the next match, Lecce will face quite comparable opponents, such as Monza and Genoa, but when they face Juventus, they may encounter difficulties again, because Allegri's troops are currently full of motivation to focus fully on the Serie A competition.

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