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Quote from: KTChampions on June 01, 2023, 02:58:02 PM

In his prime, Lewandowski was worthy of the Ballon d'Or, for example, Osimhen is now very far from this,

Osimhen is still young, very young, and not in his prime yet.
For example, you wrote, Lewandowski and I think his prime was at 28 years.

Every player is different of course but the prime should be around 25-27 years.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on June 01, 2023, 04:10:10 PM

Now there is only one game left between them and of course saying the UCL is also now out because the focus is probably on the Europa League at the moment.
The conditions of Juventus, Atalanta and Roma can still fight for it with their points still close together for now just need to see who can play better then indeed they can shift each other.
These three clubs will still play against clubs that are actually below them so it is possible for them to win 3 points but of course with previous defeats such things can also still happen even though they don't want such things for now.

The gap between Juventus and Roma is 1 point and with Atalanta is 2 points so as you said it is still possible for the final game to decide who will be in the Europa League and Conference League for these 3 clubs.
Atalanta are still a little doubtful in this regard Roma are also still in poor shape but they now have Dybala back to add to the punch and of course revenge in yesterday's final defeat so they will definitely be determined to stay in the Europa League zone.

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Quote from: Rabata on June 01, 2023, 01:19:43 PM

According to the statistics of the last 5 matches, the difference between these two teams is not much. Because Juventus have won just one of their last 5 matches while Milan have won two of their last five. However, both teams have lost three matches. Milan is trying to keep their winning streak which is a good sign. With a win in their last match, they occupy the 4th place in the points table with 67 points. On the other hand, Juventus is in the 7th position. There is not much difference in the points table between Milan and Internazionale. This team is in third position with 69 points.

I predicted Juventus to win that game before the sanctions of Juventus were reversed. Juventus was in God spirit during that period and even though they were not playing really well, they still found a way to win game. But since they got the point deduction for the second time, they have been worst.
Juve still have a chance to qualify for the Europa leagueso they still have something to play for. Roma have missed out in an opportunity to play the champions league by losing the Europa final to Sevilla so they might not want to miss out on the. Europa league too but I guess anything is possible.
Juventus might not even have the right motivation to win anymore because for a minute it seemed certain that they'll play champions league football and the extra minute they are battling to make the Europa league.

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Juventus are in a slump and they can't do more for this season. Milan may be very lucky because they are at the current point thanks to the problems faced by Juventus but still, if Milan fail to win their last two games then they will compete with Atalanta and also Roma to fight for 4th place in the standings. Apart from that all juventus have to restart at the start of next season and they can't be left behind like this season just because of the problems they caused themselves. I hope we can see more fair competition next season to make Serie A attractive again.

Yes Juventus are in a slump due to a point deduction and that has an impact on their mentality, so they lost the match against Milan before, if Juventus had managed to win and then their position would not be at its current point. You are right, if Milan failed in their last two matches, maybe Atalanta or Roma could secure a UCL ticket, fortunately Milan could win against Sampdoria and Juventus so they managed to lock up that ticket.
By the way about Milan. The last match for Milan was against Verona, it seems that match also means nothing for Milan, there is a chance they will easily give 3 points to Verona, because right now Verona also currently needs 3 points. What do you think about this match, is it possible that Milan will give three points to verona?

Now there is only one game left between them and of course saying the UCL is also now out because the focus is probably on the Europa League at the moment.
The conditions of Juventus, Atalanta and Roma can still fight for it with their points still close together for now just need to see who can play better then indeed they can shift each other.
These three clubs will still play against clubs that are actually below them so it is possible for them to win 3 points but of course with previous defeats such things can also still happen even though they don't want such things for now.

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Victor Osimhen is a beast Cheesy

25 goals
for example Lewandosky in Liga do 23 goals

and he was proposed for Golden Ball

In his prime, Lewandowski was worthy of the Ballon d'Or, for example, Osimhen is now very far from this, although he may receive it in the future, it's hard to say.
Lewandowski made a big mistake by leaving the club, which, due to its top position, compensated for the age-related deterioration in Lewandowski's game, to a middle-class club where the decline in his game became obvious.

Indeed. Lewandowski has passed his prime and he is still a new player in Barcelona. While Osimhen is in his prime age, he also doesn't need to adapt to new players and tactics because he already joined Napoli in 2020. So, we can understand if Osimhen can score more than Lewandoski now.

We can't blame Lewandowski to leave Bayern Munich, he wants a challenge in his career. He already achieved everything in Bayern Munich, he wants something different in another club. I think he joined the right club, Barcelona is a perfect club where he can get a new challenge and achieve more titles. He already got La Liga title this season with Barcelona, he may win UCL title in the next season. Grin

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Quote from: izsara on June 01, 2023, 01:38:15 PM

What is certain is that in this case the departure of Spalletti will have a slight impact on Napoli's overall performance because indeed we might be able to get an example when Zidane left Madrid and decided to take a break until an unspecified time. Real Madrid's performance, consciously or not, was affected by further adjustments as well as for Napoli, who indeed Spalletti decided the same thing as Zidane did.
It's a shame actually but it was an absolute decision from Spalletti.

I would not consider Napoli's condition to be the same as Real Madrid's when Zidane left, because Real Madrid could still get the title when Zidane left. But for Napoli it is still uncertain because there are still two possibilities that could happen to Napoli next season. Apart from that, the influence of the players can also be a basic reference even though the polish of an experienced coach is also very much needed by the team to make the team stronger in every season.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 01, 2023, 03:29:58 PM

Juventus are in a slump and they can't do more for this season. Milan may be very lucky because they are at the current point thanks to the problems faced by Juventus but still, if Milan fail to win their last two games then they will compete with Atalanta and also Roma to fight for 4th place in the standings. Apart from that all juventus have to restart at the start of next season and they can't be left behind like this season just because of the problems they caused themselves. I hope we can see more fair competition next season to make Serie A attractive again.

Yes Juventus are in a slump due to a point deduction and that has an impact on their mentality, so they lost the match against Milan before, if Juventus had managed to win and then their position would not be at its current point. You are right, if Milan failed in their last two matches, maybe Atalanta or Roma could secure a UCL ticket, fortunately Milan could win against Sampdoria and Juventus so they managed to lock up that ticket.
By the way about Milan. The last match for Milan was against Verona, it seems that match also means nothing for Milan, there is a chance they will easily give 3 points to Verona, because right now Verona also currently needs 3 points. What do you think about this match, is it possible that Milan will give three points to verona?

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I think it all depends on the transfers they will do. If Napoli sells Osimhen, which looks like a likely situation then we are going to see them not really do something this great when the time comes. But, when we are talking about them not selling him, then they might be good. Or they have other good players as well, lets see how they will do during summer transfer window, based on how they will do according to the transfers, then we can predict give or take.

This is why I do my long term outright league winner bets based on a few other situations and up until something that is like 1 week before the season starts, that helps me a lot. I know that some people will dislike that too because they keep getting players but it would be basically understandable at that point.

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Quote from: Uruhara on June 01, 2023, 01:57:56 PM

Luciano Spalletti's current age is indeed in the retirement age area. Namely, at this time Luciano Spalletti is already 64 years old. So it is very natural for Spalletti to decide to take a break from his profession as a coach. But Spalletti seems like he just wants to rest for a while. And maybe he will return to coach for other teams interested in him.

Regarding Napoli, it seems that they have targeted several new coach candidates to replace Spalletti. In fact, one of them who was mentioned as one of the candidates to become Napoli coach is Antonio Conte, whose name is already familiar to Premier League fans. well Conte is a former Tottenham coach who was sacked in March. and at the moment it seems that Antonio conte's status is still free.

One thing that has stolen enough attention is his skill in building Napoli this season which will always be remembered by the fans for the seasons to come. Apart from that, one of the things that allows him to take a break for a while is the aging factor because he is already 64 years old. Now this situation really shocked the public, even I think the Napoli players were also surprised to hear this. But will they also take the attitude to leave in the upcoming transfer window considering that Osimhen and kvaratskhelia are the players who really steal the attention of big clubs in the transfer window next summer.

So, if several players leave in the upcoming transfer window, it will automatically make it difficult for Napoli to compete next season. Apart from that, I hope that this situation that occurs does not cause a big problem for all the players, especially their star players.

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Quote from: asriloni on June 01, 2023, 12:11:10 AM

The last match against spezia gonna be a very important match for as roma. It's caused by juventus had only 1 point gap to the as roma. As roma may under pressure since it was not able winning europa league.

It was also destroying jose's record. im not sure if as roma will able to play perfectly against spezia.

Here's the odd for roma vs spezia

As you can see that since dybala was able to play and roma's odd quite good even though it was losing against sevilla but it must move on as soon as possible.

There was europa league ticket that must be secured by the club to win the last match agianst spezia.
I hope that as roma will able to take it. Juventus will be going to the conference league if roma will win against spezia. that's good.

don't worry Mourinho isn't that bad and neither are Roma players. for me Roma will definitely be excited about securing a UEL ticket in the next season while Roma's opponent Spezia is not a strong team capable of defeating Roma and on the one hand the match will be at home to Roma which provides a bigger chance of winning for Roma.
and Juventus, I'm not sure he will try to catch up with Roma points because the disappointment that the Juventus players are currently experiencing is very disturbing the mentality of all the Juventus players which causes the performance to be a little poor.

taking advantage of this match is very profitable with quite large odds of 2.03 to get a win.

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Quote from: Rabata on June 01, 2023, 01:19:43 PM

According to the statistics of the last 5 matches, the difference between these two teams is not much. Because Juventus have won just one of their last 5 matches while Milan have won two of their last five. However, both teams have lost three matches. Milan is trying to keep their winning streak which is a good sign. With a win in their last match, they occupy the 4th place in the points table with 67 points. On the other hand, Juventus is in the 7th position. There is not much difference in the points table between Milan and Internazionale. This team is in third position with 69 points.

Juventus are in a slump and they can't do more for this season. Milan may be very lucky because they are at the current point thanks to the problems faced by Juventus but still, if Milan fail to win their last two games then they will compete with Atalanta and also Roma to fight for 4th place in the standings. Apart from that all juventus have to restart at the start of next season and they can't be left behind like this season just because of the problems they caused themselves. I hope we can see more fair competition next season to make Serie A attractive again.

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Quote from: giammangiato on May 31, 2023, 07:20:30 AM

Victor Osimhen is a beast Cheesy

25 goals
for example Lewandosky in Liga do 23 goals

and he was proposed for Golden Ball

It was a spectacular season for Osimhen indeed. He scored one third amount of Napoli's goals in the Serie A this season which is very impressive. This is a great effort for a 24-year-old striker for sure and he played the biggest role in Napoli's success this season undoubtely. This high effort has attracted the attention of some other top teams at the same time of course. For now I can think of Real Madrid and Manchester United as potential teams to make an official offer for him this summer.

Aside from that Bayern Munich might also try to intervene and sign him. Because they saw how bad they were without Lewandowski last season. There was something missing in the team and that missing part was absolutely a complete forward. Osimhen has just the characteristics of a complete forward.

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The last match between Juventus vs Milan was a very attacking game. Milan are currently in a good position in the Italian league and their style of play is good. They are fourth in the points table after beating Juventus in the last match. We know Juventus is a good team but they are not performing very well this season. And Milan has become a lot stronger this season, if they can win their next match, they will definitely be in a good place in the table points. as the best and strongest team this season, Nopali is at the top of the points table. Nopali is one of the champions in the Italian league, a club that is great in their style of play. No club will put Nopali's ability to occupy the place to give them points far ahead of any other team.

According to the statistics of the last 5 matches, the difference between these two teams is not much. Because Juventus have won just one of their last 5 matches while Milan have won two of their last five. However, both teams have lost three matches. Milan is trying to keep their winning streak which is a good sign. With a win in their last match, they occupy the 4th place in the points table with 67 points. On the other hand, Juventus is in the 7th position. There is not much difference in the points table between Milan and Internazionale. This team is in third position with 69 points.

In the match between Juventus and Milan, Juventus actually had a lot of chances. But some mistakes and also some bad decision-making made Juventus not be able to score in the match. But at the same time, Milan performed really well.

Actually, Milan concentrated a lot more on counter-attack in this match. And again we see a great header from Giroud. It was not an easy one to control. But he did that very well. Leao had a great chance to score late in the match but he missed the target. I thought this was a good match and Juventus did well except for the finishing.

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Quote from: giammangiato on May 31, 2023, 07:20:30 AM

Victor Osimhen is a beast Cheesy

25 goals
for example Lewandosky in Liga do 23 goals

and he was proposed for Golden Ball

In his prime, Lewandowski was worthy of the Ballon d'Or, for example, Osimhen is now very far from this, although he may receive it in the future, it's hard to say.
Lewandowski made a big mistake by leaving the club, which, due to its top position, compensated for the age-related deterioration in Lewandowski's game, to a middle-class club where the decline in his game became obvious.

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Quote from: Raflesia on June 01, 2023, 02:16:37 PM

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Regarding Napoli, it seems that they have targeted several new coach candidates to replace Spalletti. In fact, one of them who was mentioned as one of the candidates to become Napoli coach is Antonio Conte, whose name is already familiar to Premier League fans. well Conte is a former Tottenham coach who was sacked in March. and at the moment it seems that Antonio conte's status is still free.

There are some rumors that say that now there is the name Luis Enrique which is indeed currently unemployed but indeed this might also be a little difficult because indeed we know that now it seems that Enrique is more interested in being in the EPL than La Liga.
On the other hand, at this time, Aurelio De Laurentiis has also implemented special criteria to bring in coaches for Napoli, which in fact are quite important requirements and are still related to the ideology of the wishes of the Napoli president. They are reported to be now looking for a coach who has a fairly offensive scheme with 4-3-3 as one of the formations that really must be mastered. Actually, this is not something complicated, but sometimes things like this can also be troublesome because finding a match is not easy.

So this is what will actually make it difficult for Napoli to have a new coach who has a vision and mission that is in line with the club's owner. And it seems that Luis Enrique could also be a better fit for Napoli because he actually has experience coaching a team in the Italian league, namely AS Roma. even though it was quite a long time ago, namely in 2011. Meanwhile, Luis Enrique seems likely to be quite difficult to get into a team in the Premier League. because previously Luis Enrique was also heavily linked with one of the big teams from the English league, namely Chelsea. but it seems that Chelsea have stepped back because Luis Enrique seems to be a coach who has a slightly different vision and mission than the Chelsea coach.

Another name that is also rumored to be a candidate for Napoli coach is Roberto De Zerbi. but I don't have enough information about for this one. Because Roberto De Zerbi will definitely still feel at home in the Premier League, namely training Brighton. Because there he is still needed and has brought some good results for Brighton. so Brighton certainly won't let his new coach go. so I will consider one of the candidates on this one not to be included in the candidates that Napoli will get.

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Quote from: Uruhara on June 01, 2023, 01:57:56 PM

Regarding Napoli, it seems that they have targeted several new coach candidates to replace Spalletti. In fact, one of them who was mentioned as one of the candidates to become Napoli coach is Antonio Conte, whose name is already familiar to Premier League fans. well Conte is a former Tottenham coach who was sacked in March. and at the moment it seems that Antonio conte's status is still free.

There are some rumors that say that now there is the name Luis Enrique which is indeed currently unemployed but indeed this might also be a little difficult because indeed we know that now it seems that Enrique is more interested in being in the EPL than La Liga.
On the other hand, at this time, Aurelio De Laurentiis has also implemented special criteria to bring in coaches for Napoli, which in fact are quite important requirements and are still related to the ideology of the wishes of the Napoli president. They are reported to be now looking for a coach who has a fairly offensive scheme with 4-3-3 as one of the formations that really must be mastered. Actually, this is not something complicated, but sometimes things like this can also be troublesome because finding a match is not easy.

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Well, I'm also curious about what will happen to Napoli after Spalletti leaves the Napoli coaching bench. But if it turns out that Napoli can still be a strong team next season. so of course this is great news for Napoli fans. but if Napoli were a weaker team then of course many would regret the departure of Spalletti and several of Napoli's mainstay players.

It is true that Spalletti will go very likely. He wasn't willing to give any affirmation regarding his stay in Napoli and it seems that he has issues with his president as well.

But when you think about how strong a team Napoli will be next season, it is difficult to know that right now. Whenever a team like Napoli wins a championship, it is quite normal that they are scrutinized thoroughly for the strength of their players and there will also be offers. How many players they can keep or convince to stay in Napoli isn't known yet. Spalletti could have offers already because a coach who leads a team so good for so long during a season is also on the radar.

Well, it's true that we can't predict too quickly what will happen to Napoli in the coming season. It's just that I'm also increasingly curious about which coach will be brought in by Napoli to replace Spalletti. And about Spalletti if he does leave and refuses to renew his contract with Napoli. so I think he will have no problem finding another team that can accept him as quite an extraordinary coach.

What is certain is that in this case the departure of Spalletti will have a slight impact on Napoli's overall performance because indeed we might be able to get an example when Zidane left Madrid and decided to take a break until an unspecified time. Real Madrid's performance, consciously or not, was affected by further adjustments as well as for Napoli, who indeed Spalletti decided the same thing as Zidane did.
It's a shame actually but it was an absolute decision from Spalletti.

Luciano Spalletti's current age is indeed in the retirement age area. Namely, at this time Luciano Spalletti is already 64 years old. So it is very natural for Spalletti to decide to take a break from his profession as a coach. But Spalletti seems like he just wants to rest for a while. And maybe he will return to coach for other teams interested in him.

Regarding Napoli, it seems that they have targeted several new coach candidates to replace Spalletti. In fact, one of them who was mentioned as one of the candidates to become Napoli coach is Antonio Conte, whose name is already familiar to Premier League fans. well Conte is a former Tottenham coach who was sacked in March. and at the moment it seems that Antonio conte's status is still free.

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Well, I'm also curious about what will happen to Napoli after Spalletti leaves the Napoli coaching bench. But if it turns out that Napoli can still be a strong team next season. so of course this is great news for Napoli fans. but if Napoli were a weaker team then of course many would regret the departure of Spalletti and several of Napoli's mainstay players.

It is true that Spalletti will go very likely. He wasn't willing to give any affirmation regarding his stay in Napoli and it seems that he has issues with his president as well.

But when you think about how strong a team Napoli will be next season, it is difficult to know that right now. Whenever a team like Napoli wins a championship, it is quite normal that they are scrutinized thoroughly for the strength of their players and there will also be offers. How many players they can keep or convince to stay in Napoli isn't known yet. Spalletti could have offers already because a coach who leads a team so good for so long during a season is also on the radar.

Well, it's true that we can't predict too quickly what will happen to Napoli in the coming season. It's just that I'm also increasingly curious about which coach will be brought in by Napoli to replace Spalletti. And about Spalletti if he does leave and refuses to renew his contract with Napoli. so I think he will have no problem finding another team that can accept him as quite an extraordinary coach.

What is certain is that in this case the departure of Spalletti will have a slight impact on Napoli's overall performance because indeed we might be able to get an example when Zidane left Madrid and decided to take a break until an unspecified time. Real Madrid's performance, consciously or not, was affected by further adjustments as well as for Napoli, who indeed Spalletti decided the same thing as Zidane did.
It's a shame actually but it was an absolute decision from Spalletti.

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The last match between Juventus vs Milan was a very attacking game. Milan are currently in a good position in the Italian league and their style of play is good. They are fourth in the points table after beating Juventus in the last match. We know Juventus is a good team but they are not performing very well this season. And Milan has become a lot stronger this season, if they can win their next match, they will definitely be in a good place in the table points. as the best and strongest team this season, Nopali is at the top of the points table. Nopali is one of the champions in the Italian league, a club that is great in their style of play. No club will put Nopali's ability to occupy the place to give them points far ahead of any other team.

According to the statistics of the last 5 matches, the difference between these two teams is not much. Because Juventus have won just one of their last 5 matches while Milan have won two of their last five. However, both teams have lost three matches. Milan is trying to keep their winning streak which is a good sign. With a win in their last match, they occupy the 4th place in the points table with 67 points. On the other hand, Juventus is in the 7th position. There is not much difference in the points table between Milan and Internazionale. This team is in third position with 69 points.

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The problem of stable money is clearly very important for the survival of a club. Retaining quality players must be supported with adequate funds. When Napoli already looks as if it will not have the funds to appoint several players for sale, it means very little for next season to be a worthy competitor. But I'm not sure that Napoli finances are so bad. It's just that the decision to sell players will have a bad impact.

We still haven't heard that Napoli is experiencing a financial crisis, it's just that maybe Napoli's management doesn't want to issue a higher salary that has been set, there are also other rumors about Spalletti raising this salary, they still don't know, but there is only news that he wants to rest, maybe there is a factor there are also others who can make Spalletti leave when Napoli are in their heyday.

Vitcor Osimhen is now being chased a lot and is being offered a higher salary than Napoli, with a market price that is quite high above 100 million euros, if Osimhen looks at it in terms of salary then he might look at other clubs and choose to move rather than at Napoli let alone be left by Spalletti later.

Around teams and players there are frequently rumours and conjectures in the world of football and Napoli is no exception. Although there may not be any evidence of a financial issue at Napoli it is conceivable that the players discontent may be related to the management unwillingness to pay greater salary. Rumours that Luciano Spalletti would leave could exacerbate the tense situation. Vitcor Osimhen a highly sought after player might be persuaded by offers from other teams who are willing to pay him well and provide him the opportunity to progress in his career. It is logical that Osimhen would think about looking into other choices if he feels underappreciated or uncertain about Napoli future course. But it is unclear whether these rumours will come to pass or if Napoli will be able to allay their players worries in order to keep their potential and regain stability inside the team.

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