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Quote from: herurist on June 01, 2023, 07:15:17 AM

Quote from: asriloni on June 01, 2023, 12:11:10 AM

As you can see that since dybala was able to play and roma's odd quite good even though it was losing against sevilla but it must move on as soon as possible.

There was europa league ticket that must be secured by the club to win the last match agianst spezia.
I hope that as roma will able to take it. Juventus will be going to the conference league if roma will win against spezia. that's good.

Now that they have been knocked out and failed to win a Champions League ticket because they lost to Sevilla, of course this will be a whip for them to maintain their position in the Europa League from Juventus now.
Their points are still close enough in this regard so that Atalanta, Juventus and Roma still have the same chance to be in the Europa League. They made few mistakes in this match, so it's possible that the Europa League will also leave Rome, so 3 points are a must at this time.

Left with no other option but they have to win their last match, their failure in the Europa League final requires them to win this match if they are to be in the Europa League for next season. I can say they are lucky, because in their last match they got an opponent who is easier on paper, because they have a much better performance than their opponent. Spezia must fight to save themselves from the relegation zone, that's because they also still have the same points as the clubs in the relegation zone. Both clubs will go all out in this match, but it looks like AS Roma will be able to secure 3 points.

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Quote from: naira on June 01, 2023, 09:20:45 AM

The problem of stable money is clearly very important for the survival of a club. Retaining quality players must be supported with adequate funds. When Napoli already looks as if it will not have the funds to appoint several players for sale, it means very little for next season to be a worthy competitor. But I'm not sure that Napoli finances are so bad. It's just that the decision to sell players will have a bad impact.

We still haven't heard that Napoli is experiencing a financial crisis, it's just that maybe Napoli's management doesn't want to issue a higher salary that has been set, there are also other rumors about Spalletti raising this salary, they still don't know, but there is only news that he wants to rest, maybe there is a factor there are also others who can make Spalletti leave when Napoli are in their heyday.

Vitcor Osimhen is now being chased a lot and is being offered a higher salary than Napoli, with a market price that is quite high above 100 million euros, if Osimhen looks at it in terms of salary then he might look at other clubs and choose to move rather than at Napoli let alone be left by Spalletti later.

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But according to the news it was heard, some also said that Spalletti actually asked for a salary increase in his new contract, but was rejected by De Laurentiis. As a result, Spalletti chose to pull out from the city of Naples this summer.

This is a rumor that I just heard because previously it was only reported that he wanted to take a break for about a year from his busy life and I think because the pressure was very strong it made him feel a little bored and that's normal, but if it's true because Napoli's refusal to increase his salary proves that Napoli does not have enough money to maintain the team that Spalletti has worked so hard to build in recent years so the rumors that some of their players including their main striker will leave Napoli will become a reality because of course, Victor Osimhen will expect a bigger salary especially since he is still quite young and several clubs have shown interest in this striker who became the top scorer in Serie A this season.

The problem of stable money is clearly very important for the survival of a club. Retaining quality players must be supported with adequate funds. When Napoli already looks as if it will not have the funds to appoint several players for sale, it means very little for next season to be a worthy competitor. But I'm not sure that Napoli finances are so bad. It's just that the decision to sell players will have a bad impact.

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Well, it's true that we can't predict too quickly what will happen to Napoli in the coming season. It's just that I'm also increasingly curious about which coach will be brought in by Napoli to replace Spalletti. And about Spalletti if he does leave and refuses to renew his contract with Napoli. so I think he will have no problem finding another team that can accept him as quite an extraordinary coach.

Right but my first thought here is that do you think he would behave the way he behaves when he wouldn't have any offers on the table already? Unless he has huge problems with the club leadership, which is possible, he would probably not act how he acts. My assumption is that his agent is already in touch with other clubs, he knows about it and can now play quite a bit of poker with Napoli as well. Or he already has a new contract but can't speak about it. That wouldn't surprise me.

I think we won't see Luciano Spalletti with Napoli next season. He did a great job with Napoli. No one could have imagined that Napoli would dominate Serie A this season. Napoli players were confident and their match strategy was very good. This is why Napoli's performance was consistent. Napoli is not facing obstacles to winning the Serie A title. And the contribution of coach Luciano Spalletti behind such a performance is very high. And so Luciano Spalletti will have no problem finding a new team. It won't be bad if Luciano Spalletti is the coach of PSG.

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Inter Milan and AC Milan are lucky as they have qualified for the Champions League. With Inter Milan's erratic performance at the start of the season, I thought they would not be in the top four of the table. However, Inter Milan and AC Milan have played quite well in the last few matches. Unlucky Juventus team, they could not qualify for the Champions League due to losing 10 points. But I don't think any Juventus player will leave the team because of not being able to play in the Champions League. Besides, Juventus have enough money. Even if a player leaves the team, Juventus can take qualified replacements.

Some of the players who are rumored to be leaving Juventus after this season are over are due to the expiration of their contracts, and don't think that Juventus will be destroyed next season because they don't play in the champions league because after all Juve is still a big club.
Most likely Juventus will only play in the Conference League, or Europa League if the two clubs above them or at least one of AS Roma or Atlanta loses in the last match and Juventus can get full points against Udinese, but that looks impossible because Atlanta will face Monza as the home team and also AS Roma will face Spezia as well as a home match, so the possibility of seeing both teams lose is difficult to materialize so Juventus will have to settle for the conference league.

It's fair to say that Juventus haven't had much success in Europe in a long time. I can't remember the last time they did well in the Champions League. This season in the Europa League they also failed to perform well. Hopefully in the Conference League next year they will be able to contend for a high result.

Juventus is one of the top teams in Serie A. But their performance has not been good in the last few seasons. Juventus won the last title in 2019-20 season. After that, their performance started to deteriorate. They are far behind this season. Hopefully next season Juventus team will aim to win the title. And trying to make their squad stronger. Juventus' squad is not stable. Juventus management needs to spend more money to stabilize the performance. Experienced players should be given a place in the squad.

There are so many factors that have affected Juventus' performance this season to decline and the main thing is the reduction in points at this club which makes players lazy or lack enthusiasm to compete strongly because of losing a champion's league ticket after towards the end of the season Juventus points were reduced due to a penalty.
I agree that the Juventus management must think hard about motivating their players or even replacing players who are not performing well at Juventus.

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Quote from: posi on May 31, 2023, 04:19:06 PM

The other clubs are going to get stronger. I hope that Napoli will also be able to do that because otherwise, it is going to be really hard to keep up with the competition. As you mentioned that a lot of the players are going to leave Napoli. So it is going to be a tough job for them to find replacements of those players. Now maybe some players will stay in the club because they are currently the champion of Serie A. But at the same time, it is more practical for others to actually leave the club because they are already being approached by bigger clubs.

There will be a lot of change gonna happen in napoli. Spalletti already confirmed leave from the club in summer as well as min jae. That means if napoli will have different performance. You can't expect the new coach to have the same performance as previous coach caused by the new coach will have new strategy, line up and many things to be done to the napoli. in my opinion if napoli may not able to defend its trophy in upcoming season. Some clubs are become even better from this season.

Intermilan may have possibility to win scudetto next season as long as it will be performing with the same line up like this time.
I doubt if napoli will able to have perfect performance like this time.

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Quote from: beerlover on May 29, 2023, 01:23:09 PM

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You had better check the league rules again mate.

Besides I didn't say that Juventus' beating Milan by at least two goals would carry them ahead of Milan right away. It looks like you didn't read my post careful enough but no problem. I said that if Juventus win against them like that they were going to have one last chance on the final week of the season. In that case let's say Juventus won and Milan got a draw or loss, then Juventus would take the fourth position from them as a result. I hope you get my point now.

If I am not wrong this applies when the points are equal and the goal difference is equal too, is it not? I think that's the third thing that is looked it, is it the second? I always thought first the points, then the goal difference and then the head to head to check the rankings. If the goal difference doesn't matter does that mean Juventus could have 8 less difference, and could still win with 1 goal difference at head to head for example?

That doesn't feel rewarding, you play so many games all season long and you are better, but because of one bad game that means you are ranked lower due to head to head, it's unfair looking. Obviously the federation knows more than I do so if they did this then they might have considered all options I suppose.

I used Flashscore to check out this information and saw first that head-to-head games were being taken into account first in case of points' being equal. However when I check it out now there I see that the information has changed. It is score difference which is taken into account first now. I can't believe how they can make a simple mistake on a website which is visited very often.

I checked some teams in the standings to confirm that as well. For example Leverkusen and Frankfurt. Frankfurt are ahead in the head-to-head games. But Leverkusen still finished ahead of them despite the equal points situation. Because their score difference is bigger.

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Quote from: Uruhara on May 31, 2023, 06:51:07 PM

Well, it's true that we can't predict too quickly what will happen to Napoli in the coming season. It's just that I'm also increasingly curious about which coach will be brought in by Napoli to replace Spalletti. And about Spalletti if he does leave and refuses to renew his contract with Napoli. so I think he will have no problem finding another team that can accept him as quite an extraordinary coach.

Right but my first thought here is that do you think he would behave the way he behaves when he wouldn't have any offers on the table already? Unless he has huge problems with the club leadership, which is possible, he would probably not act how he acts. My assumption is that his agent is already in touch with other clubs, he knows about it and can now play quite a bit of poker with Napoli as well. Or he already has a new contract but can't speak about it. That wouldn't surprise me.

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Quote from: asriloni on June 01, 2023, 12:11:10 AM

As you can see that since dybala was able to play and roma's odd quite good even though it was losing against sevilla but it must move on as soon as possible.

There was europa league ticket that must be secured by the club to win the last match agianst spezia.
I hope that as roma will able to take it. Juventus will be going to the conference league if roma will win against spezia. that's good.

Now that they have been knocked out and failed to win a Champions League ticket because they lost to Sevilla, of course this will be a whip for them to maintain their position in the Europa League from Juventus now.
Their points are still close enough in this regard so that Atalanta, Juventus and Roma still have the same chance to be in the Europa League. They made few mistakes in this match, so it's possible that the Europa League will also leave Rome, so 3 points are a must at this time.

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AS Roma lost to Sevilla in the Europa League it is a concern for them to win the last game against Spezia this Sunday to make sure they will stay playing in the European league unless they are disappointed with the results in the European league and prefer to return to play in the conference league because they were able to become champions last season in the tournament

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The last match against spezia gonna be a very important match for as roma. It's caused by juventus had only 1 point gap to the as roma. As roma may under pressure since it was not able winning europa league.

It was also destroying jose's record. im not sure if as roma will able to play perfectly against spezia.

Here's the odd for roma vs spezia

As you can see that since dybala was able to play and roma's odd quite good even though it was losing against sevilla but it must move on as soon as possible.

There was europa league ticket that must be secured by the club to win the last match agianst spezia.
I hope that as roma will able to take it. Juventus will be going to the conference league if roma will win against spezia. that's good.

I am very sure Roma will win, they have great motivation after failing in the Europa League final of course this is the only way for Roma to be able to play in the Europa League next season, although Spezia also has great motivation to win in order to escape the relegation zone but we have to look at these two teams in terms of strength and it is clear that Roma are stronger especially they will be playing in front of their own fans.

odds @ 2.03 are worth betting on and in my opinion it is quite tempting, I will not miss this match, I will bet big on AS Roma's victory.

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Quote from: Strongkored on May 31, 2023, 11:10:23 PM

AS Roma lost to Sevilla in the Europa League it is a concern for them to win the last game against Spezia this Sunday to make sure they will stay playing in the European league unless they are disappointed with the results in the European league and prefer to return to play in the conference league because they were able to become champions last season in the tournament

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The last match against spezia gonna be a very important match for as roma. It's caused by juventus had only 1 point gap to the as roma. As roma may under pressure since it was not able winning europa league.

It was also destroying jose's record. im not sure if as roma will able to play perfectly against spezia.

Here's the odd for roma vs spezia

As you can see that since dybala was able to play and roma's odd quite good even though it was losing against sevilla but it must move on as soon as possible.

There was europa league ticket that must be secured by the club to win the last match agianst spezia.
I hope that as roma will able to take it. Juventus will be going to the conference league if roma will win against spezia. that's good.

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Inter Milan and AC Milan are lucky as they have qualified for the Champions League. With Inter Milan's erratic performance at the start of the season, I thought they would not be in the top four of the table. However, Inter Milan and AC Milan have played quite well in the last few matches. Unlucky Juventus team, they could not qualify for the Champions League due to losing 10 points. But I don't think any Juventus player will leave the team because of not being able to play in the Champions League. Besides, Juventus have enough money. Even if a player leaves the team, Juventus can take qualified replacements.

Some of the players who are rumored to be leaving Juventus after this season are over are due to the expiration of their contracts, and don't think that Juventus will be destroyed next season because they don't play in the champions league because after all Juve is still a big club.
Most likely Juventus will only play in the Conference League, or Europa League if the two clubs above them or at least one of AS Roma or Atlanta loses in the last match and Juventus can get full points against Udinese, but that looks impossible because Atlanta will face Monza as the home team and also AS Roma will face Spezia as well as a home match, so the possibility of seeing both teams lose is difficult to materialize so Juventus will have to settle for the conference league.

It's fair to say that Juventus haven't had much success in Europe in a long time. I can't remember the last time they did well in the Champions League. This season in the Europa League they also failed to perform well. Hopefully in the Conference League next year they will be able to contend for a high result.

Juventus is one of the top teams in Serie A. But their performance has not been good in the last few seasons. Juventus won the last title in 2019-20 season. After that, their performance started to deteriorate. They are far behind this season. Hopefully next season Juventus team will aim to win the title. And trying to make their squad stronger. Juventus' squad is not stable. Juventus management needs to spend more money to stabilize the performance. Experienced players should be given a place in the squad.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 31, 2023, 10:14:47 PM

But according to the news it was heard, some also said that Spalletti actually asked for a salary increase in his new contract, but was rejected by De Laurentiis. As a result, Spalletti chose to pull out from the city of Naples this summer.

This is a rumor that I just heard because previously it was only reported that he wanted to take a break for about a year from his busy life and I think because the pressure was very strong it made him feel a little bored and that's normal, but if it's true because Napoli's refusal to increase his salary proves that Napoli does not have enough money to maintain the team that Spalletti has worked so hard to build in recent years so the rumors that some of their players including their main striker will leave Napoli will become a reality because of course, Victor Osimhen will expect a bigger salary especially since he is still quite young and several clubs have shown interest in this striker who became the top scorer in Serie A this season.

AS Roma lost to Sevilla in the Europa League it is a concern for them to win the last game against Spezia this Sunday to make sure they will stay playing in the European league unless they are disappointed with the results in the European league and prefer to return to play in the conference league because they were able to become champions last season in the tournament

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During this season we saw an amazing performance from Napoli and other teams like Juventus failed for some reason but this can't be something we see for the next season because as far as I know, Napoli doesn't have a good financial situation to keep all the players they have and this is impossible for them to keep these players for another season due to lack of investment in their team while other teams like Juventus got a better situation and I expect to see this teams in the top of the table to take the champions league ticket in the next season.

Based on some of the good results Napoli management achieved in this season will make them to improve financially to start keeping their potential players till next season because their performance from the beginning of this Italian league tournament till now really surprised many people. If Napoli president can do everything possible to keep all those players and still create more opportunities for other talented players to come in, I think it will make Napoli to dominate well again in many competition next season. I believe, Juventus management will definitely get it right next season because they are financially strong to sign in talented players that will join them to maintain a good results next season to make their fans happy.

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Unfortunately someone has to go down, I'm very sorry for Sampdoria, but this season has been truly disastrous for them
let's hope that in the next one, starting from the B series, they can be reborn like the phoenix

Actually Sampdoria is a pretty good team for many seasons in Serie A and I really hope that this season they will finish mid-table. We know that in several seasons Sampdoria only depended on luck, so they were only able to finish above the relegation safe zone. But that will not be able to make a team expect the same results every season. I think Sampdoria's relegation can be a very valuable lesson, at least they can improve their performance in Serie B, before being promoted to Serie A again.

The teams are good but the prospect of going to the Lady was very tempting after Sampdoria was stripped of a point, interrupting a run of sustained success from an unblemished record for Italian football. Black and White and Bluesarchia had a tough match, the former paying for post champion fatigue. Indeed, Allegri's men's two sided performance symbolized the struggle in the second. The next series is beautiful, hard fought, more alive than ever.

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Quote from: Hvdv on May 31, 2023, 08:36:02 PM

Why would Spaletti leave the team? I'm sure he has a lot more to target in Napoli. He may have received offers from big teams, but Napoli is his home. I think the chances of him leaving Napoli are pretty low. He has very good technical assistants. I'm sure they will make a better team next year.

I think Spalletti feels the time in Napoli has run out and he needs a break after going through such an intense season. Actually this had previously been confirmed by De Laurentiis. Luciano Spalletti has informed his desire to leave Napoli. It seems that Spalletti takes a year's rest time because Spalletti has just brought Napoli the 2022/2023 Italian League champion, which also ended the 34 -year fasting of the Scudetto title. However, that was the first title and last Spalletti for Napoli this season.

But according to the news it was heard, some also said that Spalletti actually asked for a salary increase in his new contract, but was rejected by De Laurentiis. As a result, Spalletti chose to pull out from the city of Naples this summer.

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Well, I'm also curious about what will happen to Napoli after Spalletti leaves the Napoli coaching bench. But if it turns out that Napoli can still be a strong team next season. so of course this is great news for Napoli fans. but if Napoli were a weaker team then of course many would regret the departure of Spalletti and several of Napoli's mainstay players.

It is true that Spalletti will go very likely. He wasn't willing to give any affirmation regarding his stay in Napoli and it seems that he has issues with his president as well.

But when you think about how strong a team Napoli will be next season, it is difficult to know that right now. Whenever a team like Napoli wins a championship, it is quite normal that they are scrutinized thoroughly for the strength of their players and there will also be offers. How many players they can keep or convince to stay in Napoli isn't known yet. Spalletti could have offers already because a coach who leads a team so good for so long during a season is also on the radar.

Well, it's true that we can't predict too quickly what will happen to Napoli in the coming season. It's just that I'm also increasingly curious about which coach will be brought in by Napoli to replace Spalletti. And about Spalletti if he does leave and refuses to renew his contract with Napoli. so I think he will have no problem finding another team that can accept him as quite an extraordinary coach.

Why would Spaletti leave the team? I'm sure he has a lot more to target in Napoli. He may have received offers from big teams, but Napoli is his home. I think the chances of him leaving Napoli are pretty low. He has very good technical assistants. I'm sure they will make a better team next year.

But based on the news I read 2 days ago, it turns out that the owner of Napoli, Aurelio de Laurentiis, has also confirmed the news. And it turns out that the reason Spalletti wanted to leave Napoli was because he wanted to rest for a while. Aurelio de Laurentiis also said that Spalletti's current status is free. Although Spalletti has been offered an additional one year contract. but apparently Spalletti refused and decided to take a break.

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Quote from: Hvdv on May 31, 2023, 08:36:02 PM

Why would Spaletti leave the team? I'm sure he has a lot more to target in Napoli. He may have received offers from big teams, but Napoli is his home. I think the chances of him leaving Napoli are pretty low. He has very good technical assistants. I'm sure they will make a better team next year.

Conflict with his boss, De Santis and as an employee for De Santis, Spaletti has to leave Napoli. No choice for him to stay no matter how Napoli fans love him and all he did for Napoli.

I don't know what happened with the conflict but I guess De Santis wanted Napoli to win Champions League too. He went to nothing at the season start to want to win two big titles, Serie A and Champions League. Media wrote a lot about the style of Spaletti to let his players play very attacking and ambitious in all matches, even in unimportant matches. I believe it is where the conflict comes from, as De Santis possibly believed that if Spaletti reserves important players for Champions League, gives them more time to recover, they would have been more ready and won over AC Milan.

My guess and who knows, only two people in the conflict knew the fact.

Another big coach might leave Serie A, Jose Mourinho. He loves Roma but he want to have more budget to buy some more players to make the squad stronger and have better ability to avoid effects from injuries. If Roma won't satisfy his demand, he will leave Roma.

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Well, I'm also curious about what will happen to Napoli after Spalletti leaves the Napoli coaching bench. But if it turns out that Napoli can still be a strong team next season. so of course this is great news for Napoli fans. but if Napoli were a weaker team then of course many would regret the departure of Spalletti and several of Napoli's mainstay players.

It is true that Spalletti will go very likely. He wasn't willing to give any affirmation regarding his stay in Napoli and it seems that he has issues with his president as well.

But when you think about how strong a team Napoli will be next season, it is difficult to know that right now. Whenever a team like Napoli wins a championship, it is quite normal that they are scrutinized thoroughly for the strength of their players and there will also be offers. How many players they can keep or convince to stay in Napoli isn't known yet. Spalletti could have offers already because a coach who leads a team so good for so long during a season is also on the radar.

Well, it's true that we can't predict too quickly what will happen to Napoli in the coming season. It's just that I'm also increasingly curious about which coach will be brought in by Napoli to replace Spalletti. And about Spalletti if he does leave and refuses to renew his contract with Napoli. so I think he will have no problem finding another team that can accept him as quite an extraordinary coach.

Why would Spaletti leave the team? I'm sure he has a lot more to target in Napoli. He may have received offers from big teams, but Napoli is his home. I think the chances of him leaving Napoli are pretty low. He has very good technical assistants. I'm sure they will make a better team next year.

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Quote from: Uruhara on May 31, 2023, 06:36:44 PM

Well, I'm also curious about what will happen to Napoli after Spalletti leaves the Napoli coaching bench. But if it turns out that Napoli can still be a strong team next season. so of course this is great news for Napoli fans. but if Napoli were a weaker team then of course many would regret the departure of Spalletti and several of Napoli's mainstay players.

It is true that Spalletti will go very likely. He wasn't willing to give any affirmation regarding his stay in Napoli and it seems that he has issues with his president as well.

But when you think about how strong a team Napoli will be next season, it is difficult to know that right now. Whenever a team like Napoli wins a championship, it is quite normal that they are scrutinized thoroughly for the strength of their players and there will also be offers. How many players they can keep or convince to stay in Napoli isn't known yet. Spalletti could have offers already because a coach who leads a team so good for so long during a season is also on the radar.

Well, it's true that we can't predict too quickly what will happen to Napoli in the coming season. It's just that I'm also increasingly curious about which coach will be brought in by Napoli to replace Spalletti. And about Spalletti if he does leave and refuses to renew his contract with Napoli. so I think he will have no problem finding another team that can accept him as quite an extraordinary coach.

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