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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on May 23, 2023, 08:23:06 PM

Quote from: minairia3 on May 23, 2023, 08:13:20 PM

I actually do not have any hope for Juventus. Who knows probably they will be sanctioned another 10 points tomorrow! This is just unbelievable. A team that should have been competing for the title this season is fighting to somehow finish in the Europa League position, lol. And even that is uncertain.
I say that I do not have any hope for Juventus because the mentality of the players is not very good right now, it is very easy to break down after what has happened to them. And on top of that they are also sacking the coach for not being able to achieve any trophies. I do not know if that is justified.

Their condition is worse because they don't have good psychology now after losing a semi final in Europa League and got the point deduction and lost a position in top four. With this bad psychology and only two matches left with big point difference enough with top four, Juventus will have to accept that it is impossible to end in top four. Even ending in top six is not sure for them as with only two matches, AS Roma and Atalanta can win all matches and protect their positions.

It is definitely impossible for them to finish in the top 4th position. They probably have a little chance of finishing in the top 6th. But we all know that the mental state of Juventus is not good right now. So it is actually hard to say that they are going to win the matches that are left in the season and finish in the top 6th to participate in the European League.

The things that have actually happened to Juventus this season I will actually say that even finishing in the top 6th is actually going to be an achievement in itself, to be honest. But I will still say that the decision of sacking Allegri is certainly not the right decision being taken in my opinion.

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Quote from: minairia3 on May 23, 2023, 08:13:20 PM

I actually do not have any hope for Juventus. Who knows probably they will be sanctioned another 10 points tomorrow! This is just unbelievable. A team that should have been competing for the title this season is fighting to somehow finish in the Europa League position, lol. And even that is uncertain.

I say that I do not have any hope for Juventus because the mentality of the players is not very good right now, it is very easy to break down after what has happened to them. And on top of that they are also sacking the coach for not being able to achieve any trophies. I do not know if that is justified.

Their condition is worse because they don't have good psychology now after losing a semi final in Europa League and got the point deduction and lost a position in top four. With this bad psychology and only two matches left with big point difference enough with top four, Juventus will have to accept that it is impossible to end in top four. Even ending in top six is not sure for them as with only two matches, AS Roma and Atalanta can win all matches and protect their positions.

Quote from: Ayers on May 23, 2023, 06:34:12 PM

It's not about getting better again. They are already performing really well and still not even finishing in the top 6 provided this season. They have performances of a champion this season. Whatever happened with Juventus was really unlucky for them and there is nothing they could have done about it. Just imagine still being/reclaiming the second position even after 15 points being taken away from them. And now finally this 10 points deduction was the final nail in the coffin for Juventus this season. Hard times for Juventus.

Juventus are one of best clubs in Serie A this season and they are impressive with injured players but still get good results. Their impressive performance has to be taken into account their point deduction penalty and very uncertain decisions around it. All these impacted them in their players and their psychology but so far they proved that they are strong enough to pass through unwanted difficulties.

However, FIGC have an ace under sleeves to beat Juventus down at nearly season ending. It's over, at least in this season!

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Quote from: ginsan on May 23, 2023, 03:55:45 PM

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Yes, Milan is one of the teams that really benefited from the sanctions that Juventus received. Interestingly, these two teams immediately clashed in the 37th giornata. This match will certainly be in the spotlight of many parties, because for both teams this match will be very crucial. Milan, who again have hopes of getting into the Champions League, will again receive a fallow test, defeat will be a hard slap for Pioli's troops because they wasted the golden opportunity they once again had.
Juventus will also not budge and dissolve in sadness because of the punishment they received. The match against Milan will certainly be a top priority for the Old Lady. Victory is an absolute target for them to be able to finish in the European zone. It's not an easy road, but Allegri must offer victory to Juventini as a solace.

do you see that ac milan will reap difficulties in this match? I predict that AC Milan will be able to take advantage of the chaos that occurred in the Juventus team. Moreover, after deducting 10 points, it certainly made Juventus even more depressed in this match, especially in the previous match, Juventus suffered a heavy defeat to Empoli. For ac milan, they are chasing victory and Pioli must be able to take advantage of this moment to maintain ac milan ranking in the top 4 because this season only leaves 2 more matches which they must make the most of.
On the Juventus side they being able to secure a ticket to the Europa League is good enough for them because the point deduction at this time really hurts them because they only have 2 games left for them, juventus doesn't have time to improve their performance in the standings table because the last two games will be enough make it difficult for them, but at least they still have hope to finish the season in 5th or 6th place.

I actually do not have any hope for Juventus. Who knows probably they will be sanctioned another 10 points tomorrow! This is just unbelievable. A team that should have been competing for the title this season is fighting to somehow finish in the Europa League position, lol. And even that is uncertain.

I say that I do not have any hope for Juventus because the mentality of the players is not very good right now, it is very easy to break down after what has happened to them. And on top of that they are also sacking the coach for not being able to achieve any trophies. I do not know if that is justified.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on May 23, 2023, 06:58:37 PM

Quote from: lalabotax on May 23, 2023, 04:54:56 PM

Well, this is very difficult to Juventus, I'm not sure if they will be as motivated as they used to be. This is the second painful blow for them, after a few weeks they were in a very good position, and finally fell again, out of the top 6, at the end of the season.
Yes, it's true, Milan really benefited from this because they ended up in 4th place. And the next match, Juventus vs Milan will be very interesting. I hope that Juve will be the winner, so that at least they have a chance to be in the top 6. But of course this is not easy because Milan has its own motivation.

With the conditions of the problems that exist at Juventus, it will have a serious influence on the players owned by Juventus, so I hereby assume that Juventus will not win in the match against Milan because their psychological condition is disturbed due to problems that reduce their points.

This match will be a chance for Juventus to keep their chances for an European spot alive, if they win this match they will reduce the gap with milan to 2 points and this will keep their chances but any lose or draw will make their situation more complicated for an European spot

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 23, 2023, 04:54:56 PM

Well, this is very difficult to Juventus, I'm not sure if they will be as motivated as they used to be. This is the second painful blow for them, after a few weeks they were in a very good position, and finally fell again, out of the top 6, at the end of the season.
Yes, it's true, Milan really benefited from this because they ended up in 4th place. And the next match, Juventus vs Milan will be very interesting. I hope that Juve will be the winner, so that at least they have a chance to be in the top 6. But of course this is not easy because Milan has its own motivation.

With the conditions of the problems that exist at Juventus, it will have a serious influence on the players owned by Juventus, so I hereby assume that Juventus will not win in the match against Milan because their psychological condition is disturbed due to problems that reduce their points.

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Quote from: DoverDoane on May 23, 2023, 05:50:29 PM

The likelihood of Juventus winning against Milan is quite high, considering Juventus' strong motivation to rise up from their current 7th position in the standings. If Juventus manages to win the match, it will have a significant impact for them as it can change their position to at least the top 5.

That sounds non sense to hear you say that. Juventus mentally destroyed after it gets 10 points deduction. It was losing with huge scores against empoli and i see no chance for juventus to win against acmilan.

Juventus probably gets another sanction again in the future. It's giving very big pressures to the all of players. They won't able to secure the spot in UCL. That was also making juventus lose its spirit to win the game agianst acmilan since juventus is now going back again tot he seventh position. There's no chance for juventus to go up again.

I would like to think if juventus gonna be losing against acmilan rather than winning. The fact that if the pressures are so big for juventus right now.

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Quote from: sana54210 on May 23, 2023, 10:31:59 AM

Quote from: Ayers on May 23, 2023, 04:28:36 AM

It's hard being a Juventus fan right now. Actually, it is hard to associate with Juventus at all. They have performed really well but while they should have been in the second position of the table they are currently at the 7th.
I really think that they should have been given a big amount of fine. That was going to be enough. At least don't take away points two times in the same season. They could easily give them a fine for the second time. Juventus is not going to have a good mentality right now. They will probably not be able to play in the European League as well, to be honest.

Honestly, they were given 10 points, which is reduced from 15 they were given before. I get that, I understand that it is bad as a fan, you must be feeling terrible about it. However, when you consider that we are talking about a team that were never given a chance before, you should feel happy that they were at least doing better with 5 less points in punishment, and it is not even over yet, they are looking into more stuff and there could be worse stuff coming to them as well.
I guess that it is not going to be simple and we are going to see Juventus not recover from this easily and that's going to be a trouble for a lot of fans and I get that it is going to take a while. Just be patient and I am sure you guys will get better again.

It's not about getting better again. They are already performing really well and still not even finishing in the top 6 provided this season. They have performances of a champion this season. Whatever happened with Juventus was really unlucky for them and there is nothing they could have done about it. Just imagine still being/reclaiming the second position even after 15 points being taken away from them. And now finally this 10 points deduction was the final nail in the coffin for Juventus this season. Hard times for Juventus.

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It is like they are mocking Juventus as there is another punishment now. This points deduction must have made a negative impact on the players of course. But hopefully it doesn't happen on a large scale because they still need to fight for especially one of the Europa League and Europa Conference League tournaments. The gap with Atalanta is only 2 points in the end and it can totally be closed on the remaining 2 weeks.

But first Juventus have one of the biggest obstacles ahead of them next week which is Milan. Milan are actually in a safe situation in the standings. Because of that Juventus might benefit from a little complacency here a lot. The loss against Empoli was of course very unexpected. But I don't think it will go on like this as of now.

Both teams to score and Juventus win are my choices for betting.

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 23, 2023, 04:54:56 PM

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Well I hope Juventus will still keep their motivation to win the game and at least get into the European league zone. The Ac Milan vs Juventus match looks like it will be quite fierce. But I will probably be on Juventus' side for this fight. Because this is a home game for Juventus so mentally they should be more profitable as hosts. But with the deduction of 10 points that befell them I'm afraid to make the Juventus players lose their motivation to win. With 2 matches remaining in this season of course anything can still happen. because the difference in points from rank 4 to 7 is not too wide. everything is still possible to change positions in the last 2 matches. So there is no reason for Juventus to give up now after they were thrown back from above.

Well, this is very difficult to Juventus, I'm not sure if they will be as motivated as they used to be. This is the second painful blow for them, after a few weeks they were in a very good position, and finally fell again, out of the top 6, at the end of the season.
Yes, it's true, Milan really benefited from this because they ended up in 4th place. And the next match, Juventus vs Milan will be very interesting. I hope that Juve will be the winner, so that at least they have a chance to be in the top 6. But of course this is not easy because Milan has its own motivation.

The likelihood of Juventus winning against Milan is quite high, considering Juventus' strong motivation to rise up from their current 7th position in the standings. If Juventus manages to win the match, it will have a significant impact for them as it can change their position to at least the top 5.

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Quote from: Uruhara on May 23, 2023, 01:06:15 PM

Well I hope Juventus will still keep their motivation to win the game and at least get into the European league zone. The Ac Milan vs Juventus match looks like it will be quite fierce. But I will probably be on Juventus' side for this fight. Because this is a home game for Juventus so mentally they should be more profitable as hosts. But with the deduction of 10 points that befell them I'm afraid to make the Juventus players lose their motivation to win. With 2 matches remaining in this season of course anything can still happen. because the difference in points from rank 4 to 7 is not too wide. everything is still possible to change positions in the last 2 matches. So there is no reason for Juventus to give up now after they were thrown back from above.

Well, this is very difficult to Juventus, I'm not sure if they will be as motivated as they used to be. This is the second painful blow for them, after a few weeks they were in a very good position, and finally fell again, out of the top 6, at the end of the season.
Yes, it's true, Milan really benefited from this because they ended up in 4th place. And the next match, Juventus vs Milan will be very interesting. I hope that Juve will be the winner, so that at least they have a chance to be in the top 6. But of course this is not easy because Milan has its own motivation.

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Quote from: fzkto on May 23, 2023, 08:42:12 AM

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But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.
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Yeah that's what I am talking about. Remove points then reverse the decision then apply another sanction and wait to see if it could be reversed or not, will make Serie A a joke for real.
BTW what will be in fire is the brain of the supporters of Juventus. Flip flop between being in and out of Champions League..

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Quote from: izsara on May 23, 2023, 02:25:22 PM

In the end, this drama always leaves a question mark because it is their decision when it is called a joke, it is very natural to be considered that way.
Deducting points and then returning them back and now reducing them is like one of the conditions where they are a little inconsistent which in the end this will also invite a lot of reactions in my opinion.
We'll see if Juventus' appeal is successful and their points are returned later.

Indeed it seemed like an inefficient decision that they made because they had imposed a penalty of 15 deduction points but this was canceled and at the end of the season the FIGC again gave a penalty of 10 deduction points which made Juventus fans quite furious with this decision.

In fact i don't think juventus will win the appeal if they don't accept this decision. All the things that are happening right now are of course tarnishing the team's performance in serie A. We think that the mafia must be removed in the world of sports because it can make fans quite disappointed as what Juventus fans are experiencing at this time.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on May 23, 2023, 01:08:19 PM

Yes, Milan is one of the teams that really benefited from the sanctions that Juventus received. Interestingly, these two teams immediately clashed in the 37th giornata. This match will certainly be in the spotlight of many parties, because for both teams this match will be very crucial. Milan, who again have hopes of getting into the Champions League, will again receive a fallow test, defeat will be a hard slap for Pioli's troops because they wasted the golden opportunity they once again had.

Juventus will also not budge and dissolve in sadness because of the punishment they received. The match against Milan will certainly be a top priority for the Old Lady. Victory is an absolute target for them to be able to finish in the European zone. It's not an easy road, but Allegri must offer victory to Juventini as a solace.

do you see that ac milan will reap difficulties in this match? I predict that AC Milan will be able to take advantage of the chaos that occurred in the Juventus team. Moreover, after deducting 10 points, it certainly made Juventus even more depressed in this match, especially in the previous match, Juventus suffered a heavy defeat to Empoli. For ac milan, they are chasing victory and Pioli must be able to take advantage of this moment to maintain ac milan ranking in the top 4 because this season only leaves 2 more matches which they must make the most of.

On the Juventus side they being able to secure a ticket to the Europa League is good enough for them because the point deduction at this time really hurts them because they only have 2 games left for them, juventus doesn't have time to improve their performance in the standings table because the last two games will be enough make it difficult for them, but at least they still have hope to finish the season in 5th or 6th place.

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Quote from: hd49728 on May 23, 2023, 08:54:20 AM

Juventus got it like a penalty from their participation in Super League project which is warned and prohibited by UEFA and FIFA. I really believe about that as this season is so weird with Juventus. FIGC made some decisions which are abnormal and destroyed their reputation too. FIGC can simplify things by only punish Juventus after their investigation ends rather than fluctuating with not solid conclusion like this.

Only two match days remain and Juventus no longer have enough time to climb up to top four again. They can hope to have a position that is enough to join Europa League only.

The president of FIGC as been promoted as Vice President of UEFA, I wonder why.
But it is not over yet, Juventus will be punished again next month.

They are creating new "laws" just to punishem them.

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Quote from: masulum on May 23, 2023, 12:24:00 PM

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But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.

The sanctions are like a joke! If Juventus was at fault, why FIGC return the previous 15 Juventus points. If at the time the decision is not final, at least postpone the return of the points. I think, By giving another point deduction to Juventus, and only 10 points, this actually makes Serie A really worse. FIGC looks inconsistent with decisions like this.

In the end, this drama always leaves a question mark because it is their decision when it is called a joke, it is very natural to be considered that way.
Deducting points and then returning them back and now reducing them is like one of the conditions where they are a little inconsistent which in the end this will also invite a lot of reactions in my opinion.
We'll see if Juventus' appeal is successful and their points are returned later.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 23, 2023, 12:45:34 PM

Well, with what happened to Juventus, I think Milan is the only team that really benefited because they did nothing but were able to immediately get a place in 4th place in the standings. Indeed, what Juventus experienced was ironic, they fought with all their might to consistently get good results but unexpectedly it was Milan who finally benefited from this problem.

Talking about these two teams, I think we will be serious about the match between the two, yes, what I mean is that Juventus will play against Milan this week. This is a big match and one of the fates of the two teams will be determined through this match, whether it's Milan who wants a position in the top 4 or Juventus who will try to grab Milan's current position, one ticket to the champions league next season is very hot competition in the end of the season for several teams. Roll Eyes

Yes, Milan is one of the teams that really benefited from the sanctions that Juventus received. Interestingly, these two teams immediately clashed in the 37th giornata. This match will certainly be in the spotlight of many parties, because for both teams this match will be very crucial. Milan, who again have hopes of getting into the Champions League, will again receive a fallow test, defeat will be a hard slap for Pioli's troops because they wasted the golden opportunity they once again had.

Juventus will also not budge and dissolve in sadness because of the punishment they received. The match against Milan will certainly be a top priority for the Old Lady. Victory is an absolute target for them to be able to finish in the European zone. It's not an easy road, but Allegri must offer victory to Juventini as a solace.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 23, 2023, 12:45:34 PM

Well, with what happened to Juventus, I think Milan is the only team that really benefited because they did nothing but were able to immediately get a place in 4th place in the standings. Indeed, what Juventus experienced was ironic, they fought with all their might to consistently get good results but unexpectedly it was Milan who finally benefited from this problem.

Talking about these two teams, I think we will be serious about the match between the two, yes, what I mean is that Juventus will play against Milan this week. This is a big match and one of the fates of the two teams will be determined through this match, whether it's Milan who wants a position in the top 4 or Juventus who will try to grab Milan's current position, one ticket to the champions league next season is very hot competition in the end of the season for several teams. Roll Eyes

Well I hope Juventus will still keep their motivation to win the game and at least get into the European league zone. The Ac Milan vs Juventus match looks like it will be quite fierce. But I will probably be on Juventus' side for this fight. Because this is a home game for Juventus so mentally they should be more profitable as hosts. But with the deduction of 10 points that befell them I'm afraid to make the Juventus players lose their motivation to win. With 2 matches remaining in this season of course anything can still happen. because the difference in points from rank 4 to 7 is not too wide. everything is still possible to change positions in the last 2 matches. So there is no reason for Juventus to give up now after they were thrown back from above.

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Well, with what happened to Juventus, I think Milan is the only team that really benefited because they did nothing but were able to immediately get a place in 4th place in the standings. Indeed, what Juventus experienced was ironic, they fought with all their might to consistently get good results but unexpectedly it was Milan who finally benefited from this problem.

Talking about these two teams, I think we will be serious about the match between the two, yes, what I mean is that Juventus will play against Milan this week. This is a big match and one of the fates of the two teams will be determined through this match, whether it's Milan who wants a position in the top 4 or Juventus who will try to grab Milan's current position, one ticket to the champions league next season is very hot competition in the end of the season for several teams. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Davian144 on May 23, 2023, 11:35:14 AM

Now the time is running out for Juventus to fight for this season because Juventus needs to win all the remaining matches for a better place even if it's not for a place in the Champions League because AC Milan will also try to defend itself in the top four after regaining the place by deducting 10 points for Juventus, even though in general I also prefer Juventus to appear in the Champions League next season because Juventus is also a pretty good team this season in Serie A.

Juventus used to be victorious for many years because the opposing team was on the bad side due to financial problems. On the one hand, Juventus in that era were actively manipulating finances so that they could spend big but could escape FIGC sanctions. while opposing clubs have difficulty buying big players, indeed this one mafia club (Juventus) should be severely punished for their own behavior.

The FIGC should act decisively, eradicate the football mafia and cheating in sports. The Juventus scandal completely tarnished the Italian League. Luckily this season there are three Italian representatives who are in three different Finals fighting to revive the Italian League in Europe.

Hopefully this will be a valuable lesson for the management of Juventus so that they are better caught up to signs of another scandal. Due to the bad effects of management, Juventus' performance has decreased in Serie A, got points deducted (again), eliminated in the Europa League semifinals, and is almost certain not to play in the Champions League next season. It's really sad the fate of Juventus this season

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Quote from: hahay on May 23, 2023, 08:47:08 AM

It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?

Man, oh man, it's like watching a tennis match with Juventus' points this season, isn't it? Back and forth, back and forth! It's got more drama than a soap opera! I mean, deduct points, then reinstate them, then deduct them again! What is this, a yo-yo competition? No wonder you're finding it hilarious!

But seriously though, what's up with that? If they were guilty, then the deduction should have stuck in the first place, right? As it stands, they're now teetering on the edge of missing out on European competition next season, which, if I might say so, is a darn shame for a club of Juve's stature. And now, I hear that the Serie A's Europa League slots might be reduced. I mean, what's next? They'll ask Juve to play blindfolded?

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