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But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.
The sanctions are like a joke! If Juventus was at fault, why FIGC return the previous 15 Juventus points. If at the time the decision is not final, at least postpone the return of the points. I think, By giving another point deduction to Juventus, and only 10 points, this actually makes Serie A really worse. FIGC looks inconsistent with decisions like this.
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It's really unfortunate to see how hard Juventus worked to improve their game after being hit with a 15 point deduction.
It's about end of the season, but now face another setback. Despite initially struggling and dropping as low as 13th on the league at one point, Juventus showed incredible resilience and fought their way back up in the rankings. However, with the recent 10 points deduction, it seems like all their efforts have been undone, causing them to drop from 2nd to 7th on the point table. They also have fallen outside of a European spot, it's too bad to handle.

However, the accusations of corruption that have dealt with them long time. Ultimately, they're paying for their mistakes.
Juventus put a lot of effort into raising their game after suffering a 15 point deduction so it is disappointing to see them suffer yet another setback after a more recent 10 point deduction. They clawed their way back up the rankings but it appear that all of their effort were in nothing because they dropped from second to seventh on point table and were no longer eligible for position in Europe. They have finally been caught up in the long running allegation of corruption and they are now being penalised for their error. In order to repair their reputation and reclaim their position among football best Juventus must take these difficulties seriously reflect honestly and pledge to play by the rules.
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It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?
Well I also understand what you mean friend. Because I also thought the same about this. And I feel that the case that happened to Juventus was only made to drag on. I want this problem to be resolved quickly. So that Juventus can be more comfortable to play in the next season. I'm afraid this case won't be finished until next season. and then Juventus were at a disadvantage again as they nearly climbed the top which was thrown back down. To be honest, I prefer Juventus to get tickets to the UCL because in terms of the quality of the game, Juventus are above Inter and AC Milan. it's a bit boring to see AC Milan and Inter Milan back in the UCL next season. I want to see Juventus in UCL.
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But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.
Now the time is running out for Juventus to fight for this season because Juventus needs to win all the remaining matches for a better place even if it's not for a place in the Champions League because AC Milan will also try to defend itself in the top four after regaining the place by deducting 10 points for Juventus, even though in general I also prefer Juventus to appear in the Champions League next season because Juventus is also a pretty good team this season in Serie A.

That's one problem but I expect an action packed game for Juventus because there is nothing else to play for now and both teams will be playing aggressively. Juventus has to take of several issues in this game. They lost the first leg against AC Milan 2-0, which means if they end up having the same number of points, the two goal difference could become relevant. That is why Juventus should not only go for the win, but also try to equalize the goal difference. Since they have the better statistics overall, this would also provide them with certainty that they would catch AC Milan if they have equal points in the end. There is probably going to be a lot of action and I also expect some tough emotions.
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But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.
Now the time is running out for Juventus to fight for this season because Juventus needs to win all the remaining matches for a better place even if it's not for a place in the Champions League because AC Milan will also try to defend itself in the top four after regaining the place by deducting 10 points for Juventus, even though in general I also prefer Juventus to appear in the Champions League next season because Juventus is also a pretty good team this season in Serie A.
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It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

Juventus' defeat today against Empoli, of course, might have been due to frustration or made the players lack the enthusiasm to play. points deduction for the second time after the first time they lost 15 points and finally returned and now reduced again, this looks like a game where it is clear that there is an element of complicity to knock Juventus out of European competition next season.

I think this case or deducting points can be done next season which will be even better considering we have reached the end of the season and Juventus should be Runner Up, but unfortunately they have to lose another 10 points and have to drop to 7th position which of course makes Juventus players too frustrated with this sanction, if later there is an appeal like before and it is returned in my opinion it will be very funny again. lol
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It was not easy for Mourinho to manage Roma with a very limited squad, especially since their concentration was increasingly divided into the Europa League. Maybe Mourinho doesn't think about it seriously anymore in Serie A, the proof is that he quite often saves his best players and plays more of his second layer players.
Roma is not having good financial. I remember that roma was only giving only a few millions for mourinho as budget for the transfer in summer. Mourinho was running its squads with so many limitation. Being able to go to the final or even win the trophy will become a very big achievement for him with his limited squad in roma. Roma is one step closer to the trophy right now.

As roma was only wasting 7 millions euro in the winter transfer season. I will call that as a magic if mourinho will able to win europa league trophy with that squad.
Mourinho was not able getting what they want during winter transfer season


I see that Mourinho is really focused on the Europa League, he is certainly ready to risk even if Roma fail to win the Europa League. But that's his attitude that everyone should respect. He really is quite a gentleman.

Mourinho is only wasting this time to put all of his focus in europa league. It's caused by europa league the only way to get into UCL.
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Tbis is happening again, their performnace decreased very bady after the decision. Well, the court decided to give the punishment again, reducing points. It, of course, hurts Juventus players and make them not motivated again, likely, no chance again. I am also surprose when seeing both results, the point reduction and also the result of the game, losing 4-1 is bad, moreover 1 of them was from penalty kick
It's hard being a Juventus fan right now. Actually, it is hard to associate with Juventus at all. They have performed really well but while they should have been in the second position of the table they are currently at the 7th.

I really think that they should have been given a big amount of fine. That was going to be enough. At least don't take away points two times in the same season. They could easily give them a fine for the second time. Juventus is not going to have a good mentality right now. They will probably not be able to play in the European League as well, to be honest.
Honestly, they were given 10 points, which is reduced from 15 they were given before. I get that, I understand that it is bad as a fan, you must be feeling terrible about it. However, when you consider that we are talking about a team that were never given a chance before, you should feel happy that they were at least doing better with 5 less points in punishment, and it is not even over yet, they are looking into more stuff and there could be worse stuff coming to them as well.

I guess that it is not going to be simple and we are going to see Juventus not recover from this easily and that's going to be a trouble for a lot of fans and I get that it is going to take a while. Just be patient and I am sure you guys will get better again.
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It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?
This circus with Juventus is already tired, if you want to take away points, then do it and don't play with it anymore. I think it affected Juventus' game against Empoli yesterday, because it's hard to focus on the game when you know you're out of the European zone again. It was possible to fight to the end, try to beat Empoli and beat Milan in the next match and thus return to the top 4, but I repeat, it’s difficult to tune in to the game, when points are taken away from you on the finish line.
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It's really unfortunate to see how hard Juventus worked to improve their game after being hit with a 15 point deduction.
It's about end of the season, but now face another setback. Despite initially struggling and dropping as low as 13th on the league at one point, Juventus showed incredible resilience and fought their way back up in the rankings. However, with the recent 10 points deduction, it seems like all their efforts have been undone, causing them to drop from 2nd to 7th on the point table. They also have fallen outside of a European spot, it's too bad to handle.

However, the accusations of corruption that have dealt with them long time. Ultimately, they're paying for their mistakes.
When I thought Juventus had a successful season, they have been hit with several setbacks. They were heavily defeated by Empoli, lost against Sevilla in the Europa League semifinals, and had a ten points reduction. The effect of this point deduction would have been less if they had managed to make it to the Europa League finals. At least they were able to get 10 after the appeal instead of the 15 points sanctions before.

With two remaining games Juventus still have the opportunity to make it to an European competition. The loss to Empoli was a setback but the team has to push the setback aside and put effort to win their remaining games. This situation is really demoralizing but Massimiliano Allegri boys are good fighters. And I am sure they will keep fighting till the end.
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They have a sportive law for it when and if it is proved and it is a fine.
We also have a previous cases for Inter and a 90k € fine for it.


It is an EUFA penalty for the superleague.

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Juventus got it like a penalty from their participation in Super League project which is warned and prohibited by UEFA and FIFA. I really believe about that as this season is so weird with Juventus. FIGC made some decisions which are abnormal and destroyed their reputation too. FIGC can simplify things by only punish Juventus after their investigation ends rather than fluctuating with not solid conclusion like this.

Only two match days remain and Juventus no longer have enough time to climb up to top four again. They can hope to have a position that is enough to join Europa League only.
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It was not easy for Mourinho to manage Roma with a very limited squad, especially since their concentration was increasingly divided into the Europa League. Maybe Mourinho doesn't think about it seriously anymore in Serie A, the proof is that he quite often saves his best players and plays more of his second layer players.

I see that Mourinho is really focused on the Europa League, he is certainly ready to risk even if Roma fail to win the Europa League. But that's his attitude that everyone should respect. He really is quite a gentleman.
the final match is getting closer, of course, Mourinho does not want his team to be disturbed by several players who could be injured by the intensity of the race for Champions League tickets which is getting hotter. especially after Juve finally had to face a reduction in points.
now their focus is on the Europa League. and next season hopefully they will be in contention for the Champions League. will not care too much about the results in Serie A. although they can still get the opportunity to get tickets for the Champions League regularly if they do better in Serie A.
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It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?
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Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.
Every few months, the boys in Italy got bored and want some fun, once they drop the team to the second league, other time they deduct 15 points, another day they remove 10 points.
This sanction related to transfer dilemma just before their game vs Empoli was annoying and made the team unstable. Again Juve have to figure out what to do to get ride from this and get back its position.. Right now their chances to play in Champions League are very very small.
But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.
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Damn what you said is true Rome can't play well because it failed to have more goals to excel and be a winner.
This match with a draw proved that Salernitana is a team that cannot be underestimated because they managed to make Roma fail to win at home.
I couldn't believe the match would end in a draw, but Roma themselves in the last 7 matches only got 1 win and 1 defeat, the rest were draws.
From this it can be seen that Rome has experienced a decline in the quality of the game.

Roma is not an impressive team. They struggle too much in games that they should be winning.
Since they got the the quarter final of the Europa league they've been shitty in the league. I respect Mourinho but this is too bad even from him. You cant just put all your eggs in one basket like this. So what if he loses the Europa final? So that means there will be no champions league football for Roma next season.
Roma has what it takes to focus on qualifying for the top four and also winning the Europa league. How can a team like Roma have no win in their six last Serie A games. 2 loses and 4 draws. That's a very poor form. It is not even a certainty that they will win Sevilla in the Europa final.
It was not easy for Mourinho to manage Roma with a very limited squad, especially since their concentration was increasingly divided into the Europa League. Maybe Mourinho doesn't think about it seriously anymore in Serie A, the proof is that he quite often saves his best players and plays more of his second layer players.

I see that Mourinho is really focused on the Europa League, he is certainly ready to risk even if Roma fail to win the Europa League. But that's his attitude that everyone should respect. He really is quite a gentleman.
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The sad drama again befalls Juventus. Even though only 10 points were deducted from the total points owned by Juventus, this succeeded in throwing Juventus to 7th place. What I can say for Juventus is that they had bad luck and were very unfortunate.

Actually I'm quite happy with Juventus who are ranked 2nd. Because to be honest I want to watch Juventus fight in the Champions League next season. But now Juventus has no hope left for a UCL ticket. and Juventus' defeat by Empoli also made Juventus suffer completely. Because Juventus also failed to land in the European league zone.
The penalty came again when the League was about to end with this point deduction Juventus would not be able to do with the remaining matches, unless they resigned themselves to this incident but I always wondered why the penalty returned after some time ago their points were returned too.

Maybe with this incident the mentality of the players will decrease a little because they are no longer playing in the European zone, if you wait for one more season it will be too long and this is clearly the bitterness they are experiencing after remaining with 2 more matches.

Even with two matches for Juventus it will be tough enough to play against him.

It's really unfortunate to see how hard Juventus worked to improve their game after being hit with a 15 point deduction.
It's about end of the season, but now face another setback. Despite initially struggling and dropping as low as 13th on the league at one point, Juventus showed incredible resilience and fought their way back up in the rankings. However, with the recent 10 points deduction, it seems like all their efforts have been undone, causing them to drop from 2nd to 7th on the point table. They also have fallen outside of a European spot, it's too bad to handle.

However, the accusations of corruption that have dealt with them long time. Ultimately, they're paying for their mistakes.
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Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

This is of course some real corruption.  I bet the judge has been paid to make a decision like this.  and why do they have to take away 10 points from Juventus? ? they could just find money and punish them that way. This is some bullshit going on ! !

I really do not think the players will actually want to stay in Juventus after what has happened this season. what is the point of staying in a team which is not going to play in the Champions League even after finishing in the second position?  But probably that's what those people who made this decision actually want.
Indeed, I am quite upset to hear this and it seems that even though Juventus has made a mistake regarding the financial scandal, the points deduction should not have been made towards the end of the season. We know very well the feelings of the Juventus players here, they are certainly very angry, disappointed and do not accept this decision.

But we really don't know what happened there and I think even though Juventus have dropped so far in the standings, at least they still have a chance in the last two matches to determine their fate playing in European competition and even if they can't deal with the current turmoil, I hope they can immediately pick themselves up and do everything next season again.
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The sad drama again befalls Juventus. Even though only 10 points were deducted from the total points owned by Juventus, this succeeded in throwing Juventus to 7th place. What I can say for Juventus is that they had bad luck and were very unfortunate.

Actually I'm quite happy with Juventus who are ranked 2nd. Because to be honest I want to watch Juventus fight in the Champions League next season. But now Juventus has no hope left for a UCL ticket. and Juventus' defeat by Empoli also made Juventus suffer completely. Because Juventus also failed to land in the European league zone.
The penalty came again when the League was about to end with this point deduction Juventus would not be able to do with the remaining matches, unless they resigned themselves to this incident but I always wondered why the penalty returned after some time ago their points were returned too.

Maybe with this incident the mentality of the players will decrease a little because they are no longer playing in the European zone, if you wait for one more season it will be too long and this is clearly the bitterness they are experiencing after remaining with 2 more matches.

Even with two matches for Juventus it will be tough enough to play against him.
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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.
Every few months, the boys in Italy got bored and want some fun, once they drop the team to the second league, other time they deduct 15 points, another day they remove 10 points.
This sanction related to transfer dilemma just before their game vs Empoli was annoying and made the team unstable. Again Juve have to figure out what to do to get ride from this and get back its position.. Right now their chances to play in Champions League are very very small.
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There are other factors that have made Juventus get point deductions that have an impact on their current position in the Serie A standings.
At first I knew that Juventus were getting back the points that were deducted because of the effort they put in to get them back to second place.
From local sources I read, Juventus deducted points due to "financial irregularities" but I don't want to extend because this is far from my knowledge.

Due to what is now happening to Juventus, there are clubs outside of Italy who are making positive gains in pot sharing in the UEFA Champions League.
I also hope that what happened to Juventus ends well.

They have a sportive law for it when and if it is proved and it is a fine.
We also have a previous cases for Inter and a 90k € fine for it.


It is an EUFA penalty for the superleague.

Juventus, anticipation of Christillin: "Penalty for leaving the Champions League"

Christillin is a member of the UEFA board

 
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