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Quote from: Mame89 on November 13, 2024, 12:40:41 PM

Jauventus is the most interesting this season, even though they are in 6th position, they are unbeaten so far. Of course this is not bad, even with a record like that they will be motivated again to maintain the record. The next match they will face AC Milan who are below them, of course this match will be fierce. Can Juventus extend their unbeaten record. Let's just wait for this match after the international break.

It would havee been a better result or outcome if they had win all matches against weaker opponents and draw with the bigger teams that way it would be easier to call them the most interesting but having to share the points with teams like Parma, Cagliari, Empoli and Roma proves they have not yet completely mastered their craft and that is why they found themselves on the 6th position. Being unbeaten they could have easily occupied the 3rd or 2nd or even 1st spot but it’s a good start though not a perfect one as you make it seem. The league is very competitive this season with 6 teams fighting it out already and 6th place Juventus is just 2 points behind Napoli.

The match against AC Milan will determine if Juventus can be a strong contender, they need to do all they can to win but it will not be easy as they will be the visitors.

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I really agree with you, Juventus cannot be expected if they continue to play like this from 12 matches Juventus draw 6 times this means that Juventus have lost 12 points, of course it's not the right way to compete in the top 4 while their competitors continue to collect points from every game. Juventus must be able to get out of this situation, one of the ways that can be taken is to bring in new players in the next transfer window, I see their goals activities low and only rely on Dušan Vlahović so it needs an increase in attack lines. There are indeed obstacles in the next transfer window because not many players are available in the middle of the season and usually the contract of the players expired at the end of the season.

Even though they are currently stuck in 6th position, Juventus are not too far behind the leaders, they can still compete in the title race if they can increase their goal productivity. I don't see any problem in the defense line because they were able to get a clean sheet in 9 matches, the midfield also played very well. The only problem they have is in attack as they often struggle to score against teams they should be able to beat easily. If Juventus want to bring in new players in the January transfer window, they should prioritize a striker to add to their attacking firepower.

Juventus are only 2 points behind Napoli. Even so, I think Juventus are not the team that deserves to win the Serie A title this season. I am not happy with Juventus' overall performance this season. Even last season, Juventus' performance was very weak. Juve's performance, I think Juventus' players' main goal is to draw the match. And if they perform like this, it will not be possible for Juventus to occupy the top position of the table.

Fiorentina and Atalanta are in better form than Juventus at the moment. These two teams have been able to continue their good performance consistently. Atalanta has probably won all their last 6 matches and Fiorentina has won all their last 5 matches. Also, Atalanta's attack is very strong this season. Atalanta's players have been able to score 31 goals in 12 matches.

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I really agree with you, Juventus cannot be expected if they continue to play like this from 12 matches Juventus draw 6 times this means that Juventus have lost 12 points, of course it's not the right way to compete in the top 4 while their competitors continue to collect points from every game. Juventus must be able to get out of this situation, one of the ways that can be taken is to bring in new players in the next transfer window, I see their goals activities low and only rely on Dušan Vlahović so it needs an increase in attack lines. There are indeed obstacles in the next transfer window because not many players are available in the middle of the season and usually the contract of the players expired at the end of the season.

Even though they are currently stuck in 6th position, Juventus are not too far behind the leaders, they can still compete in the title race if they can increase their goal productivity. I don't see any problem in the defense line because they were able to get a clean sheet in 9 matches, the midfield also played very well. The only problem they have is in attack as they often struggle to score against teams they should be able to beat easily. If Juventus want to bring in new players in the January transfer window, they should prioritize a striker to add to their attacking firepower.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 13, 2024, 06:00:32 PM

And now it is officla Ranieri will be the coach of Roma.
Once again he has been called to save a situation and he said yes to his city.

He be manager until the end of the season and after he will join the board.

Good to see Sir Ranieri back.

After a 2-3 defeat to Bologna, Roma sacked Juric, and the decision to appoint Ranieri was a clear move towards stability and the goal of getting back on track in Serie A. Ranieri, a son of Rome, is known for his managerial skills and ability to face big challenges. Ranieri has beaten the likes of Laurent Blanc and Paulo Sousa to the job of helping Roma overcome their difficulties. This is also his second time in charge at the Olimpico stadium. Previously, he led AS Roma from 2009 to 2011.

I expect Ranieri to prove his talent again and help the team overcome the difficult period. Ranieri's first game in charge of Roma is away to Napoli. This match looks to be difficult for him.

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Quote from: bering on November 14, 2024, 03:18:05 AM

I thought Claudio Ranieri will not going back to football because last season when he can able to bringing Cagliari to avoiding relegation zone he was decide will retired but Claudio Ranieri is back that he will handled AS Roma and i think this is good news because just like we all know Claudio Ranieri is very famous as the manager who can bringing mediocre team to performing well and the latest proof is he can able to bringing Cagliari promote to serie A and survive in this league but of cource one of Claudio Ranieri highest achievement is when Leicester City was able to gets Premier league trophy under him so probably he is the right manager for AS Roma and he can lifted the performance of this team

Well this is quite good news indeed. And I never even thought that Claudio Ranieri would be the choice taken by AS Roma. Previously I had never thought about this option. But AS Roma made the right choice. I'm sure of it. Because he also coached this team for quite a long time. And then he also served as interim coach for AS Roma for half a season at that time. And I am sure that with the experience and insight he has after coaching many clubs, he will be able to bring positive changes back to AS Roma. Even though it might not be a big enough change, I'm sure it won't be as bad as at the start of this season with Juric or De Rossi. My expectations may have been too high. But looking at Claudio Ranieri's record of achievements is worthy of attention and appreciation.

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I thought Claudio Ranieri will not going back to football because last season when he can able to bringing Cagliari to avoiding relegation zone he was decide will retired but Claudio Ranieri is back that he will handled AS Roma and i think this is good news because just like we all know Claudio Ranieri is very famous as the manager who can bringing mediocre team to performing well and the latest proof is he can able to bringing Cagliari promote to serie A and survive in this league but of cource one of Claudio Ranieri highest achievement is when Leicester City was able to gets Premier league trophy under him so probably he is the right manager for AS Roma and he can lifted the performance of this team

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 13, 2024, 06:00:32 PM

And now it is officla Ranieri will be the coach of Roma.
Once again he has been called to save a situation and he said yes to his city.

He be manager until the end of the season and after he will join the board.

Good to see Sir Ranieri back.

Well this is a pretty good choice that the AS Roma club has made by bringing in an experienced coach like Claudio Ranieri. In the past, I didn't really know this coach, but I quite remember the moment when Claudio Ranieri managed to surprise everyone in the Premier League when he succeeded in bringing Leicester City to the Premier League title at that time.

And even though he will only be a temporary coach for AS Roma again this season, I am sure that at least AS Roma will be saved a little thanks to the experience of Claudio Ranieri.

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Quote from: irhact on November 13, 2024, 02:32:18 PM

Unbeaten when you're not winning, how's that making them the most interesting club. They're losing two points for every game that they draw and if the continue like this, they won't even qualify for champions league football next season. I'm disappointed at juventus this season and not impressed with how they're playing. If there's any club that you should be impressed by their position is Napoli. They sold their best striker and got Lukaku. Hired a new manager and now top of the league. Many people wrote them off this season that they're not going to be in the title contest but they're now the ones leading the competition and might win it with the way they're playing.

Juventus does have a record of 6 draws. But they also have a record of 6 wins and 0 losses. And yes, I also like Napoli's playing style more than Juventus this season. But actually there is not much difference in points between Napoli who are at the top and Juventus who are ranked 6th. Because Juventus, which has 24 points, is only 2 points different from Napoli, which has 26 points. So it's not a big difference. But Juventus cannot continue to have lots of draws if they want to qualify for the UCL next season. Juventus must start improving their attack and back lines and start dominating Serie A again like at the start of the season. But for now I still doubt Juventus. I'm not taking it lightly, but it looks like Juventus will have quite a hard time competing for the title.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 13, 2024, 10:55:47 PM

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But from this draw Napoli still benefits because they can still occupy the top of the standings and of course Inter Milan must maintain their position in the top 4, only now it shows very thin point difference because Napoli has 26 points and is followed by Atalanta, Fiorentina, Inter Milan and Lazio with 25 points then below it is Juventus who has 24 points.
I sure that the competition in the future will be even fiercer and of course we will see quite lot of shifts in rankings until it shows who is truly stable and more consistent for this season.

This is a fair result for both teams because in terms of quality, these two top teams have good quality so a draw is quite fair in my opinion and this result does not change anything at the top of the standings for now and even it will make or prove that the competition at the top of Serie A this season will be much fiercer without any dominance from just one team like last season.
The rise of several teams has made the competition even fiercer to challenge Inter Milan this season and I see this from a positive side and it will be better for the Serie A competition and also the teams in Serie A.

If compared to last season, it is indeed very different because Inter Milan won the title without any fierce competition and overall they were absolutely superior to several other top team, but now we see competition that is truly much more competitive with shifts in the standings that are certain to be alternated in the near future.
I hope that there is team that can win the Scudetto or Inter Milan failure to defend the title, and conditions like this can continue until the end of the season so that Serie-A becomes competition full of surprises.

It seems that the excitement in the Italian league will continue throughout the season because the points difference between the teams is almost non-existent. If the team competes on equal terms, some of them will rise above expectations, while others will fall short. He returned to the Italian League in a league where his team is almost on the same level. We are watching similar things this year. His team may be the champion. Although it is still early to talk about the champion, one of the strong candidates is Inter.

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The competition between clubs in Serie A this season is very tight compared to what happened last season, so every team is very wary of losing points in every match they play, so I think that is also what conte is doing now to maintain his team position at the top of the Serie A standings, the tactics and strategies that conte applies when facing Intermilan are very appropriate, because I think he is well aware of the potential danger that Napoli can get if they play too aggressively and openly like when facing other teams previously, Inter is their strongest rival in the Scudetto competition, so targeting at least 1 point at inter home could be a wise move to maintain their position at the top of the Serie A standings.

The narrative about Napoli is one thing I see conte trying so hard to fight because looking at it critically, in the last season they were back to their status co where they don't get to excel so well in the series A but for the first time osimhen did joined them and helped them win the league title after a very long time that spammed almost a decade, now conte isn't just getting them to win games, but building systems with them and aswell getting them in to a much better mentality and productivity level.

Last year was a huge disappointment for Napoli. Since they didn’t play any matches in Europe this year, they can focus entirely on the league. This will give them more rest than their opponents. They made a good start this year with Conte and if they continue, they can continue to be champions until the end of the year. There are many teams that will follow them in this regard, but not going to European cups and having extra rest is an added advantage for them.

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In general, Juventus is not far behind the other top teams and we can see this from the number of points owned by Juventus and from the number of points owned by Napoli as the current leader of the standings. Juventus is only two points behind the current leader of the standings and several positions in the top seven of the current standings will certainly tend to change after the matches in the following week. Because currently there are four teams that have scored the same number of points including the points owned by Inter Milan currently where the team is in the top four of the standings.

The points are indeed not too far from the title challengers, but if Juventus does not play the match optimally, it will be difficult for them to catch up to that position. Napoli and Inter Milan are in their best form and they have a much more convincing game intensity compared to Juventus in particular. The standings could change in the next few matches, but I am a little more confident that the first and second positions will still be filled by Napoli or Inter Milan.

Juventus is in sixth place in the standings after playing the 12th match and is only two points behind AC Milan and Bologna. That's why they have to be more consistent if they don't want the position to be taken over by the team below them.

Currently, several teams at the top do not have a large point difference so that it is possible for anything to happen in a short time, as well as for Juventus regarding the 2-point gap from Napoli who are at the top of the standings is not a big problem but the problem is in the Juventus team itself at this time where they have not been able to maintain the consistency of their performance so that there are quite a lot of matches that they are not able to maximize and also overall Juventus has not reached its best performance for now, I think that should be Motta's job and to stay in the competition for the Scudetto of course Juventus will always be on that path if they can maintain the consistency of the team's performance.

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Quote from: G_Besar on November 13, 2024, 03:30:30 AM

In general, Juventus is not far behind the other top teams and we can see this from the number of points owned by Juventus and from the number of points owned by Napoli as the current leader of the standings. Juventus is only two points behind the current leader of the standings and several positions in the top seven of the current standings will certainly tend to change after the matches in the following week. Because currently there are four teams that have scored the same number of points including the points owned by Inter Milan currently where the team is in the top four of the standings.

The points are indeed not too far from the title challengers, but if Juventus does not play the match optimally, it will be difficult for them to catch up to that position. Napoli and Inter Milan are in their best form and they have a much more convincing game intensity compared to Juventus in particular. The standings could change in the next few matches, but I am a little more confident that the first and second positions will still be filled by Napoli or Inter Milan.

Juventus is in sixth place in the standings after playing the 12th match and is only two points behind AC Milan and Bologna. That's why they have to be more consistent if they don't want the position to be taken over by the team below them.

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Quote from: Farma on November 12, 2024, 02:00:19 AM

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But from this draw Napoli still benefits because they can still occupy the top of the standings and of course Inter Milan must maintain their position in the top 4, only now it shows very thin point difference because Napoli has 26 points and is followed by Atalanta, Fiorentina, Inter Milan and Lazio with 25 points then below it is Juventus who has 24 points.
I sure that the competition in the future will be even fiercer and of course we will see quite lot of shifts in rankings until it shows who is truly stable and more consistent for this season.

This is a fair result for both teams because in terms of quality, these two top teams have good quality so a draw is quite fair in my opinion and this result does not change anything at the top of the standings for now and even it will make or prove that the competition at the top of Serie A this season will be much fiercer without any dominance from just one team like last season.
The rise of several teams has made the competition even fiercer to challenge Inter Milan this season and I see this from a positive side and it will be better for the Serie A competition and also the teams in Serie A.

If compared to last season, it is indeed very different because Inter Milan won the title without any fierce competition and overall they were absolutely superior to several other top team, but now we see competition that is truly much more competitive with shifts in the standings that are certain to be alternated in the near future.
I hope that there is team that can win the Scudetto or Inter Milan failure to defend the title, and conditions like this can continue until the end of the season so that Serie-A becomes competition full of surprises.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 13, 2024, 06:30:21 PM

Napoli has nothing but having Conte in this team. They are a good team but still, they didn't have good teamwork before Conte. Napoli had bad days when they had Osimhen on this team and that's why they decided to let him go and hire Lukaku while Lukaku had a good performance so far in Napoli thanks to his experience and they didn't have any problems after Osimhen left the team.

They win and lose together and it's not fair to say Napoli are nothing without Conte and Conte is all power they have to succeed. It's also unfair to say Conte can do everything to help the club winning matches and Scudetto without good player resource in the club. The coach and players in Napoli must unite together, work together and fight together for matches and the league battle. Only Conte, Osimhen or Lukaku is not enough to bring Napoli to Scudetto and if they want to win Scudetto like two seasons ago, they must have a very good team in one season.

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Also, I think Juventus will now feel regret for not hiring Conte, Conte had good performance years ago when he was working for Juventus in Serie A and they could have had the same good days with this coach but Motta was still not enough for Juventus.

Juventus and Conte did not separate with each other years ago happily so Juventus didn't want and were not ready to work with Conte again. They knew that Conte can create conflict in their club again if he returns, so they decided to work with another coach, not with Conte.

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But it is very interesting to see the points gained in the current Serie A standings. We see this very tight competition. I think this Serie A will not be boring at all. We can see that all the teams in the top 5 seem to have a chance to overtake Napoli.

Plus Juventus have 24 points, so under certain circumstances one defeat to Napoli could drop them from first place to 6th (if the leaders don't play each other).
Quite an interesting state of affairs, especially considering that the other teams are 6 points behind the leaders.
The next round will feature an interesting game between Milan and Juventus. If Milan doesn’t win, it will permanently consolidate its position outside the top 6.

This state of the points table is interesting to watch because the teams that we have always seen at the bottom of the points table are now at the top of the points table and the teams that we are used to seeing at the top of the points table are now looking at the bottom of the points table. Although Inter Milan is at the fourth position of the points table, we cannot see AC Milan between 1 and 5 of the points table, while this AC Milan was at the second position of the points table last season. Not only last season but in this season's Champions League match AC Milan faced against Real Madrid we saw that AC Milan was able to defeat Real Madrid by a big margin. However, as much as AC Milan is behind the other teams in the Italian league, it seems that they cannot be between 1 and 5 in terms of points this season.

Napoli has nothing but having Conte in this team. They are a good team but still, they didn't have good teamwork before Conte. Napoli had bad days when they had Osimhen on this team and that's why they decided to let him go and hire Lukaku while Lukaku had a good performance so far in Napoli thanks to his experience and they didn't have any problems after Osimhen left the team.
Also, I think Juventus will now feel regret for not hiring Conte, Conte had good performance years ago when he was working for Juventus in Serie A and they could have had the same good days with this coach but Motta was still not enough for Juventus.

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And now it is officla Ranieri will be the coach of Roma.
Once again he has been called to save a situation and he said yes to his city.

He be manager until the end of the season and after he will join the board.

Good to see Sir Ranieri back.

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Quote from: Palakka on November 13, 2024, 11:12:36 AM

The competition between clubs in Serie A this season is very tight compared to what happened last season, so every team is very wary of losing points in every match they play, so I think that is also what conte is doing now to maintain his team position at the top of the Serie A standings, the tactics and strategies that conte applies when facing Intermilan are very appropriate, because I think he is well aware of the potential danger that Napoli can get if they play too aggressively and openly like when facing other teams previously, Inter is their strongest rival in the Scudetto competition, so targeting at least 1 point at inter home could be a wise move to maintain their position at the top of the Serie A standings.

The narrative about Napoli is one thing I see conte trying so hard to fight because looking at it critically, in the last season they were back to their status co where they don't get to excel so well in the series A but for the first time osimhen did joined them and helped them win the league title after a very long time that spammed almost a decade, now conte isn't just getting them to win games, but building systems with them and aswell getting them in to a much better mentality and productivity level.

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Quote from: Mame89 on November 13, 2024, 12:40:41 PM

This season's Serie A is more interesting than last season, all teams in the top 6 have the opportunity to win the trophy or even the top 7 because the points difference is not too far apart. This thin point difference certainly makes the league more competitive and each team has the same spirit to maintain its consistency, especially since the league is still very long, of course the standings will definitely change.

This is how the Serie A has always been for the past 5 seasons or thereabouts. People are just paying attention to it more this season. It's usually just the winner of the league that runs away with the league while the 2nd to 6th positions are separated by just 2 points.

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Jauventus is the most interesting this season, even though they are in 6th position, they are unbeaten so far. Of course this is not bad, even with a record like that they will be motivated again to maintain the record. The next match they will face AC Milan who are below them, of course this match will be fierce. Can Juventus extend their unbeaten record. Let's just wait for this match after the international break.

Juventus have been underwhelming, to say the least. They have been unbeaten because they try not to concede which is a good thing but it's of no use if you can't score. They find it difficult to score goals. With a defense like that, if they can find a way to score goals they will be a good team. I expected them to compete for the league, but if they don't find a way to start scoring goals comfortably, they'll not be able to compete.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 13, 2024, 04:05:34 PM

I really agree with you, Juventus cannot be expected if they continue to play like this from 12 matches Juventus draw 6 times this means that Juventus have lost 12 points, of course it's not the right way to compete in the top 4 while their competitors continue to collect points from every game. Juventus must be able to get out of this situation, one of the ways that can be taken is to bring in new players in the next transfer window, I see their goals activities low and only rely on Dušan Vlahović so it needs an increase in attack lines. There are indeed obstacles in the next transfer window because not many players are available in the middle of the season and usually the contract of the players expired at the end of the season.

Of course Juventus must be able to improve their performance by returning to get maximum points compared to the series of draws they have achieved. However, it is not too late for Juventus to make improvements to the squad when the winter transfer market opens because I see they need some quality players to support their performance. Apart from that, Juventus is only 2 points behind Napoli who are in the top ranking because several teams in the standings have collected the same points which means every week we will see the teams in the standings exchange their positions.

AC Milan is also not very consistent this season because they were once in the top 4 but now their position has dropped to 7th place. I am sure their new coach Fonseca has not been able to provide much progress in the team, even though some of the players they recruited in the summer transfer market are quality players like Morata but Fonseca still failed to develop a good strategy for the development of player quality.

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Quote from: irhact on November 13, 2024, 02:32:18 PM

Quote from: Mame89 on November 13, 2024, 12:40:41 PM

Jauventus is the most interesting this season, even though they are in 6th position, they are unbeaten so far. Of course this is not bad, even with a record like that they will be motivated again to maintain the record. The next match they will face AC Milan who are below them, of course this match will be fierce. Can Juventus extend their unbeaten record. Let's just wait for this match after the international break.

Unbeaten when you're not winning, how's that making them the most interesting club. They're losing two points for every game that they draw and if the continue like this, they won't even qualify for champions league football next season. I'm disappointed at juventus this season and not impressed with how they're playing. If there's any club that you should be impressed by their position is Napoli. They sold their best striker and got Lukaku. Hired a new manager and now top of the league. Many people wrote them off this season that they're not going to be in the title contest but they're now the ones leading the competition and might win it with the way they're playing.

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. You have to tell him the fact. Because claiming a team is unbeaten without having a good winning game unless a draw is not something to be impressed by, because out of the 12 games that they have played so far, they were just able to win 6 games and draw the remaining 6, so what is there to be impressed about?

Talking about Napoli. Yes, they are trying their best this season, but still they have a lot of challenges. Losing Osimhen in their mix will affect them because they have other teams that they will have to struggle with: Atalanta, Inter Milan, and Fiorentina are also there. So for you to start thinking that Napoli can make it to the trophy this season is somehow unacceptable to me because there is still a lot for them to face this season.

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