Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) - page 222.

tusandii

hero member

Activity: 1708

Merit: 522

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Lannakosa on November 15, 2024, 07:07:10 AM

Quote from: tusandii on November 15, 2024, 05:39:10 AM

Not even mid-season AS Roma has changed coaches twice, Roma recently announced the dismissal of Ivan Juric, AS Roma experienced a series of bad results with De Rossi and also Ivan Juric this season.
Ivan Juric has played 12 matches with Roma in all competitions and only won 4, 3 draws and 5 defeats, it was quite bad for Roma until they were in 12th place in the standings and in the Europa League in 20th place. Roma has appointed Claudio Ranieri as the club's manager until the end of this season, will he be able to revive Roma's performance this season amidst the chaos that is happening?

Source : Roma's new coach

Ranieri is a good coach, I think he will be much more successful than Juric, but it is very difficult to start working now, the team is in a difficult situation. The question is that I doubt that Roma is ready to allow Ranieri to buy new players, and without this Roma will remain with the same opportunities, and it is not worth counting on something changing now because a new coach has come to the team, they have tried it twice already and the result does not change.

In terms of experience and achievements, of course Claudio Ranieri is better than Ivan Juric and De Rossi, I can say Ranieri is probably the same as Jose Mourinho who is more experienced in handling clubs so we can be a little optimistic about Roma's future performance, they must be patient in responding to the process and not rush to make decisions in firing the coach. I remember Napoli last season who changed coaches 3 times during 1 season and finally they got worse so changing coaches in a short time will make the club even more uncontrollable.

OcTradism

hero member

Activity: 1722

Merit: 801

Quote from: blue Snow on November 15, 2024, 09:02:48 PM

Intense pressure made De Gea not play well at Manchester United,

Ten Hag implemented his rhetoric to all players which made conditions not so ineffective for players like De Gea. So If the coach was wrong implement his strategy that made the player play badly and was discarded.

De Gea played very well at Manchester United and he saved them in many matches and seasons. Big change appeared with Ten Hag as a coach, who required De Gea to not only making saves with his hands but also contributing more to the club from the goalkeeper position with passing. Passing is weakness of De Gea and not many goalkeepers in his generation were grew up in academies with passing. De Gea is a goalkeeper from a previous generation, and he is different than younger goalkeepers who were trained and grew up with passing as one of main skills for modern goalkeepers.

It's biggest reason for De Gea failure in Manchester United under Ten Hag and he had to leave the club. Anyway, years later Ten Hag failed and was sacked weeks ago, and success in Fiorentina is like a strong voice from De Gea to prove that Ten Hag was wrong about De Gea's ability.

blue Snow

legendary

Activity: 1526

Merit: 1032

Up to 300% + 200 FS deposit bonuses

Quote from: Weawant on November 15, 2024, 06:01:08 PM

At some point it almost felt like ten hag had a thing on de gea's career because after he refused him been part of the Manchester United team, his career did had a set back that almost broke him but somehow he found his way out and now he's got a team, for the first time in his career he was a free agent for the longest so it's going to be like ten hag should have similar experience a d see what exactly it does feels like at this time but I don't think de gea will be of that stance of been happy than ten hag lost his job.

Intense pressure made De Gea not play well at Manchester United,

Ten Hag implemented his rhetoric to all players which made conditions not so ineffective for players like De Gea. So If the coach was wrong implement his strategy that made the player play badly and was discarded.

In Fiorentina, De Gea played well and looked enjoy when got direction from Palladino.
So I think it depends on who the coach is. Any great player out there will not develop yet or tend to be bad if the coach implements his ego.
We also look at how Moise Kean played, because, at Juventus, he played badly also, he never scored a goal in the previous session, but in Fiorentina, he became a monster and became 2nd the top scorer also after Mateo Retegui in Serie A.

Marvell1

legendary

Activity: 2408

Merit: 1102

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 15, 2024, 08:26:42 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

We should not keep Pogba, it's coz he would not help us much at all, though, our squad looks so thin due to the injuries. He hasn't played football for 2 years. This has hurt his performance. He has declined without competitive games. He's also an injury-prone player, and it scares me. he would just likely end up on the injury list, what can we expect from him at all? Nothing!

It's quite sad to see him to have a dystopia tale like this, but, let him to get his bag, and join in his new club.

Pogba had a brilliant career. But he destroyed his own career. I would say Pogba was not very hardworking. Because of this we have seen his performance decline day by day. He has played with big teams like Manchester United and Juventus. Even then Pogba's overall performance was not consistent. And Pogba has been out of the squad for a few years due to injury problems. Pogba played 6 matches in the 2022-23 season and only 2 matches in the 23-24 season.

Juventus' overall condition is not good now. At least I think so. Because Juventus has shared points in 6 matches out of 12 matches. If Juventus' target is to win the title then I would say Juventus management should strengthen their squad more. And bring in another player as a replacement for Pogba. However, if Juventus management is happy to be in the top four of the table, then maybe we will see Pogba in a Juventus jersey this season as well. Even if Pogba does not perform well, he may get a chance in the Juve squad.

JeffBrad12

hero member

Activity: 3038

Merit: 539

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

We should not keep Pogba, it's coz he would not help us much at all, though, our squad looks so thin due to the injuries. He hasn't played football for 2 years. This has hurt his performance. He has declined without competitive games. He's also an injury-prone player, and it scares me. he would just likely end up on the injury list, what can we expect from him at all? Nothing!

It's quite sad to see him to have a dystopia tale like this, but, let him to get his bag, and join in his new club.

TopT3ns

hero member

Activity: 2548

Merit: 572

#SWGT CERTIK Audited

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

Pogba is 31, but it is an effective footballer, and keeping him can make Juventus’s mid-field deeper, which is a very necessary strategy when the competition is getting fiercer every year. In fact he is quite young with the experience that will enable him to give his best if fully supported. Clearly, Napoli and Atalanta have been performing great in the season, but integrating such a steady and quality performer as Pogba will help the Old Lady maintain a level of play that will allow Juventus to ratings among the top contenders for the championship. We are just going to wait and see how the decision made by the club will assist the club in achieving their targets.

TelolettOm

hero member

Activity: 2086

Merit: 553

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Webetcoins on November 15, 2024, 02:28:22 PM

While I do agree that Ranieri is of course better coach than Juric, one day Roma will realize the problem isn't with the coaches but with the players. I mean don't get me wrong, Ivan Juric wasn't a great coach, but he wasn't this bad neither, neither was De Rossi, and obviously not Mourinho neither. They have been firing coaches, it's fourth coach within 1 year span, and they are still firing coaches for bad results.

At least if seen from the experience of both, Ranieri should have more experience and be more convincing. But still, we have to see what his development in the future Roma will be like. Of course, at least we are like hoping when de Rossi was able to raise Roma's position in the last season. Because Roma's current position is only in 12th, this is very bad for a club like Roma.

Oh yeah this is one of the interviews of caludio Ranieri for the beginning in Roma, he also focused on some players. and he observed Roma's game so far to complete the strategy that he will apply.

Source: AS Roma’s new manager Claudio Ranieri

Weawant

hero member

Activity: 798

Merit: 509

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 15, 2024, 04:33:20 PM

I'm sure De Gea is happy to see Ten Hag got fired from Manchester Unite because Ten Hag was the reason for De Gea to leave the team and he hired Onana instead of using De Gea while now it seems De Gea's performance is much better than goalkeepers like Onana.
I think De Gea in Fiorentina was the main reason for this team's great performance. They are now even racing in the top side of the Serie A.
Now, regardless of De Gea's age, I think he can play again in the bigger teams because of his current performance.

At some point it almost felt like ten hag had a thing on de gea's career because after he refused him been part of the Manchester United team, his career did had a set back that almost broke him but somehow he found his way out and now he's got a team, for the first time in his career he was a free agent for the longest so it's going to be like ten hag should have similar experience a d see what exactly it does feels like at this time but I don't think de gea will be of that stance of been happy than ten hag lost his job.

Alpha Marine

sr. member

Activity: 756

Merit: 356

Quote from: Webetcoins on November 15, 2024, 02:28:22 PM

While I do agree that Ranieri is of course better coach than Juric, one day Roma will realize the problem isn't with the coaches but with the players. I mean don't get me wrong, Ivan Juric wasn't a great coach, but he wasn't this bad neither, neither was De Rossi, and obviously not Mourinho neither. They have been firing coaches, it's fourth coach within 1 year span, and they are still firing coaches for bad results.

I don't completely agree with this.
Yes, the players are not world-class players or players that should be winning the league, but they're players that should be in the top 5 of the league. The team has been horrible this season.
4 managers can be bad. The fact that they've hired different managers and the team is still not doing well doesn't mean the managers are not the problem. I don't think the management of Roma wants the team to win the league, but there should be visible progress, something they can build on.

Are you trying to say the players in Fiorentina, Bologna, Udinese, Empoli and Torino are all better than the players in Roma?
We always underestimate the importance of a good coach. There is a kind of coach that will take over Roma and they will be in the top 4.
Bologna finished 5th last season simply because of the coach they had.

kawetsriyanto

legendary

Activity: 2492

Merit: 1140

duelbits.com

Quote from: tusandii on November 15, 2024, 05:39:10 AM

Not even mid-season AS Roma has changed coaches twice, Roma recently announced the dismissal of Ivan Juric, AS Roma experienced a series of bad results with De Rossi and also Ivan Juric this season.
Ivan Juric has played 12 matches with Roma in all competitions and only won 4, 3 draws and 5 defeats, it was quite bad for Roma until they were in 12th place in the standings and in the Europa League in 20th place. Roma has appointed Claudio Ranieri as the club's manager until the end of this season, will he be able to revive Roma's performance this season amidst the chaos that is happening?

Source : Roma's new coach

We can understand if AS Roma have changed 2 coaches. They didn't bring good impacts to the team, there is no reason to keep the coaches. However, it is also a mistake made by AS Roma board. Why they hired inexperienced coaches? Moreover, those 2 coaches never managed big teams and never won any prestigious trophy.

Now, it looks better to choose Claudio Ranieri. This coach is experienced enough, he won some prestigious trophies. I just hope Ranieri will make good starts with AS Roma although it seems quite difficult because he will face some big matches. In the near future, AS Roma will play against Napoli, Tottenham, Atalanta, and AC Milan. If Ranieri got positive results on these matches, I've sure Ranieri will return AS Roma to be a stronger team again.

tiCeR

hero member

Activity: 1946

Merit: 867

Defend Bitcoin and its PoW: bitcoincleanup.com

Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 13, 2024, 12:09:49 AM

Quote from: tiCeR on November 12, 2024, 07:07:24 PM

...

No one knows for sure why Juventus have had a dip in performance even though if you look at the quality of the players they have they are not inferior to Inter Milan or Napoli. Juventus had a big problem in previous seasons where they got a point deduction and most recently their players were sanctioned for doping cases. The competition in Serie A is much more competitive this season where there are several clubs that have improved.

Napoli, Atalanta, Fiorentina and Inter Milan might be competing with each other with a very close points difference for the title. It depends on how they are able to maintain consistency in each game that will take place and a small mistake could see them drop down to the top three for the next match.

That comes across as an exaggeration here. As far as I know the only player who has been caught for doping was Pogba. Since he was injured 80% of the time, he wasn't a big loss for the team anyway. The point deduction in season 2022/2023 barely has any impact on the performance in season 2024/2025...

Juventus Turin hasn't made the best decisions to sign new top players while the other teams were able to close the gap in team quality because of that. That's why the teams you mentioned are all so close to each other. But they are still unbeaten and a winning streak would likely get them to the top. Though it will be an exciting season if it stays this way and no team is really able to leave the others behind by several points.

Leviathan.007

hero member

Activity: 1806

Merit: 722

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Plaguedeath on November 01, 2024, 09:58:27 AM

Quote from: bering on November 01, 2024, 02:27:23 AM

Most people considers why Fiorentina performing well is because De Gea performance as the goalkeeper is very impressive and we all know since the beginning of season De Gea has just make plenty of important saves which makes Fiorentina can avoiding to lost and so far he is effective transfer from Fiorentina and the good thing is Fiorentina gets him without spending money because De Gea joining as free transfer

Seeing almost all Manchester United players that left are perform in their new teams is really crazy.

With such performance, I'm sure De Gea will back to big teams very soon, Fiorentina will use this advantage to sell De Gea as expensive as possible. It's rare to see Fiorentina can reach top 4 position, all we know they were win some and lose some, instead of win streak.

I'm sure De Gea is happy to see Ten Hag got fired from Manchester Unite because Ten Hag was the reason for De Gea to leave the team and he hired Onana instead of using De Gea while now it seems De Gea's performance is much better than goalkeepers like Onana.
I think De Gea in Fiorentina was the main reason for this team's great performance. They are now even racing in the top side of the Serie A.
Now, regardless of De Gea's age, I think he can play again in the bigger teams because of his current performance.

Fiatless

hero member

Activity: 574

Merit: 554

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 15, 2024, 02:57:47 PM

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

Juventus just terminated his contract, which means the French midfielder is free to move to any club that shows interest. I think the club doesn't want his tinted reputation to bring unnecessary attention to the club. There are speculations of interest from some clubs Saudi Arabia and Olympique Marseille. I think Paul Pogba will consider moving to join Roberto De Zerbi.

The Italian coach was able to sign Mason Greenwood even when there was opposition from the fans, the mayor of Marseille and others. The English player is having a good time in the French League. However, if Paul wants to make good money to recover the years he had lost, the Saudi Professional League should be his best point of call.

Pokapoka124

hero member

Activity: 1148

Merit: 555

Paul Pogba’s ban will end in March. His future is still uncertain. Should Juventus have kept Pogba? Look at their current squad, I think they should have kept the 31 year old midfielder. Only Juventus know the reason why they decided to part ways with the player. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win the Scudetto with the way Napoli and Atalanta are playing this season.

Stable090

sr. member

Activity: 882

Merit: 456

Top-tier crypto casino and sportsbook

Quote from: pusaka on November 15, 2024, 03:09:31 AM

The competition is very tight in Serie A this season, the points obtained by each team are very close and there is even no gap between the 2nd position to the 5th position because they both have 25 points. This happened after all finished their 12th week, and I don't think I have ever seen a situation like this in a week that has entered more than 10 first matches. Napoli are leading for a while, but they are also only 1 point away from the 4 teams below them, and 2 points away from Juventus who are in 6th position in the standings. They will not be comfortable with a situation like this.

Most of these teams performances seem to be at the same level currently, and that is why their points difference is not that significant. At this point, it will be hard for anyone to predict a favorite team to win Serie A at the end of the season based on the points gap and these big teams' unstable performances. Inter Milan and Juventus were my favorite teams to win this season before the league started, but I can't fully say that now due to their inconsistent performances.In fact, betting on a Serie A game now is scary because their matches often come with surprising results almost every week. As it is only 12 games played, let's see what will happen before 20 matches are played maybe there will be much differences by then with these teams.

bitgolden

legendary

Activity: 3024

Merit: 1132

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: bastisisca on November 15, 2024, 11:49:06 AM

Quote from: stompix on November 14, 2024, 12:37:46 PM

This started from Juventus, so how come Juventus which has 24 points is having problems while Inter and Napoli are doing well with nothing to fear and are just 1 and 2 points ahead? What's the difference between doing well and having major issues? Then Bologna should just give up football and dismantle the club already as for Venezia they should turn their city into Atalantis out of shame and erase all traces!

There have been only 12 games, I don;t understand how people can already predict who's going to be champion and which one has no chance at all based on so little/

I try to predict why it's fun and why i am a gambler
I don't have anything against Juventus, i m simply someone who bets and doesn't feel like betting on Juventus.
In fact i have said a negative outlook, i didn't say Juve going to Serie B.
Do you admit that it's not a team that can win the championship or the Champions League?

That is what this topic was created for. I mean yeah we talk about sports all together, but we talk about it for betting purposes mostly, almost all of us here are gamblers and we talk about sports not just to talk about it for needless chatting, but we talk about it because we believe what we say or read here could matter and could be used in our gambling as well. So for your case, Juventus will not win anything, and betting on Juventus would not be profitable for you.

In this case, you will talk about why you believe Juventus isn't a profitable team to bet on, and someone else who may think Juventus is a good team to bet on will talk about why he thinks that way, and that's the talk we will all have. I believe this is the type of discussion we have, even if we do not directly say gambling, we say I do not think Juventus will win the league and suddenly we will understand that means he is not really interested in betting on the team in general.

Chilwell

hero member

Activity: 756

Merit: 508

The Alliance Of Bitcointalk Translators - ENG>PID

Reports Juventus and Pogba reach agreement over contract termination

The former Manchester United star is technically under contract with the Bianconeri until the summer of 2026, but the club have been looking to move the Frenchman on, despite his being eligible to return to action at the start of 2025. Pogba was handed a four-year suspension after failing a routine doping test after a Serie A match against Udinese in August 2023, which was later reduced to just 18 months, meaning that the 2018 World Cup winner would have been able to return to competitive action at the beginning of the next calendar year.

However, with Juventus having started out on a new project under Thiago Motta at the start of the season, and with a newly refurbished midfield department, Pogba’s time at the Allianz Stadium appears to have come to an end again.

According to reports from local outlet Ilbianconero.com, Juventus have now reached an agreement to terminate the 31-year-old’s contract by mutual consent.

Source link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/football-italia.net/reports-juventus-pogba-termination-agreement/amp/

Webetcoins

hero member

Activity: 2100

Merit: 546

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Lannakosa on November 15, 2024, 07:07:10 AM

Ranieri is a good coach, I think he will be much more successful than Juric, but it is very difficult to start working now, the team is in a difficult situation. The question is that I doubt that Roma is ready to allow Ranieri to buy new players, and without this Roma will remain with the same opportunities, and it is not worth counting on something changing now because a new coach has come to the team, they have tried it twice already and the result does not change.

While I do agree that Ranieri is of course better coach than Juric, one day Roma will realize the problem isn't with the coaches but with the players. I mean don't get me wrong, Ivan Juric wasn't a great coach, but he wasn't this bad neither, neither was De Rossi, and obviously not Mourinho neither. They have been firing coaches, it's fourth coach within 1 year span, and they are still firing coaches for bad results.

I am sorry but they will need to finally focus on the part where it's the players fault and not the coaches. The day they realize that and start firing players or selling them, and getting better ones, they will see better results. If they do not do that, then they will have to keep firing many coaches and keep doing that endlessly. It's the players, they suck, and we have seen them be terrible many times so far, no coach can turn this team into a good team with the current roster, they need to just replace them, and not even a few, most of the players.

BitcoinHunt3r

legendary

Activity: 2954

Merit: 1155

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: tusandii on November 15, 2024, 05:39:10 AM

Not even mid-season AS Roma has changed coaches twice, Roma recently announced the dismissal of Ivan Juric, AS Roma experienced a series of bad results with De Rossi and also Ivan Juric this season.
Ivan Juric has played 12 matches with Roma in all competitions and only won 4, 3 draws and 5 defeats, it was quite bad for Roma until they were in 12th place in the standings and in the Europa League in 20th place. Roma has appointed Claudio Ranieri as the club's manager until the end of this season, will he be able to revive Roma's performance this season amidst the chaos that is happening?

Yeah Roma has reached the worst level recently in the last 5 matches they lost 4 times and only won once so normal if they are looking for a new coach, Claudio Ranieri is an experienced coach so he actually has the ability to handle Roma it's just that sometimes the ability is not enough to change the team I mean he needs something to do it for example he needs a new player unfortunately he could not do anything right now except waiting until the transfer window was opened, I can't assume whether he can do it in the near future.

hahay

legendary

Activity: 3486

Merit: 1055

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: giammangiato on November 15, 2024, 12:37:07 PM

Quote from: OcTradism on November 14, 2024, 09:08:30 PM

The Serie A rank table is very interesting now as it opens chances for many clubs to take a first position as well as fight for Scudetto. Two seasons ago, Napoli made big surprise and won Scudetto, will this season be an opportunity for Atalanta or Fiorentina to win Scudetto?

It is no coincidence that it is the most beautiful championship in the world, given that there are many teams fighting for the title.
You see Spain, i also follow La Liga. There are essentially always two teams fighting for the title: Barcelona and Real Madrid. There are no other strong teams capable of taking the La Liga title.
This gets boring in the long run.

The points gap in the top six of Serie A is currently very interesting, because they only have a gap of one point and one point and even, Napoli who are at the top of the standings with Juventus who are in sixth position also only have a gap of two points. Thus, if they get defeated once then of course their position will change. But indeed, about Atalanta I think they might also deserve the Scudetto this season, because Atalanta had very impressive results last season in the Europa League. And also, at this moment Atalanta also managed to beat Napoli with a score of 0-3 despite playing at Napoli's home. With the good performance and results that Atalanta has, then I hope Atalanta is able to remain consistent in the title race this season.

Topic: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) - page 222. (Read 866236 times)