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Quote from: hahay on December 29, 2021, 12:50:09 PM

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Even though Napoli are above Juventus but this does not guarantee victory, remember Juventus are favorites for playing at home and during the last 5 matches this has a very good chance this is different from Napoli who have some bad performances and points drop to approach the bottom.
Still for me this match will not be flooded with many goals and it will probably end very little the possibility of a draw can also occur.

Agreed, but even if there are a lot of goals or both teams to score, at least it will probably only be a score as close as 2-1. But in any case even though Juventus are favourites, I also realize the potential of Napoli which is not just a mediocre team which means Napoli have the quality to be able to deliver surprising results as well. Ambitions like that sometimes come true by breaking the record of not being able to win away in the last few seasons, because we can only consider the condition and situation of the team recently.

I would not say that the current Juventus is the undisputed favorite in the match with Napoli. Both clubs have some problems with the results in recent games, so it is difficult to call one of them an unconditional contender for victory in the upcoming match. I would put it mildly that Juventus has a better chance of getting points than Napoli. Despite all the statistical nuances and preferences, I think that any outcome of the match is possible both in one direction and in the other. The only thing I would like to say about, given Juventus' modern style of play, is that in my opinion the meeting is unlikely to be replete with a lot of goals scored.

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In a week, there are two big games in the Serie A. And the first one is between Milan and Roma in San Siro. This is one of the toughest games for Milan in the league. They played against Napoli short time ago here and lost it by 1-0. It was really interesting to see them struggling to score even one goal against Napoli in that one. But I don't expect same thing to happen again. Roma are an unpredictable team especially after witnessing their 4-1 win against Atalanta away. But I think that Milan will be able to defeat Roma by one goal and won't let Inter pull away more.

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There is a talk about Ronaldo offering himself to Barcelona. Does that make any sense to anyone? Anyone really believes that? I mean surely he didn't went to United, got so much of his jersey sold (estimated 100+ million pounds worth) just to end up going to Barcelona right afterwards right?

Not like I would care, doesn't matter to me and he could do whatever he wants, I am not fan of either team so it doesn't change anything to me, but that would be weird. Seeing him square off against Barcelona for so many years, seeing him making a comeback to his old team, only to leave for his opponent of so many years and join them? It would certainly be weird.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on December 29, 2021, 12:25:07 PM

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I personally don't believe Napoli will win in this match, as I said before about their head to head record when they face off, they very rarely get full points for away teams. With that note, I think it's pretty clear on paper Juventus will win and even if Napoli can put up a fight and get the points it will only be a draw by one point. Considering their current moment, I think the final result will at least still be close to the record on paper of Juventus winning or a draw with or without goals from both teams.

even though Napoli is ranked above Juventus. but the predictions that are widely rumored are based on the results of the team's performance in several matches and the record of the two teams' matches.
Juve is still the favorites to get the win in this match. see the form Juve should have in their league match in good form to get the full points.

Even though Napoli are above Juventus but this does not guarantee victory, remember Juventus are favorites for playing at home and during the last 5 matches this has a very good chance this is different from Napoli who have some bad performances and points drop to approach the bottom.
Still for me this match will not be flooded with many goals and it will probably end very little the possibility of a draw can also occur.

Agreed, but even if there are a lot of goals or both teams to score, at least it will probably only be a score as close as 2-1. But in any case even though Juventus are favourites, I also realize the potential of Napoli which is not just a mediocre team which means Napoli have the quality to be able to deliver surprising results as well. Ambitions like that sometimes come true by breaking the record of not being able to win away in the last few seasons, because we can only consider the condition and situation of the team recently.

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Quote from: rozak on December 29, 2021, 10:32:28 AM

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I personally don't believe Napoli will win in this match, as I said before about their head to head record when they face off, they very rarely get full points for away teams. With that note, I think it's pretty clear on paper Juventus will win and even if Napoli can put up a fight and get the points it will only be a draw by one point. Considering their current moment, I think the final result will at least still be close to the record on paper of Juventus winning or a draw with or without goals from both teams.

even though Napoli is ranked above Juventus. but the predictions that are widely rumored are based on the results of the team's performance in several matches and the record of the two teams' matches.
Juve is still the favorites to get the win in this match. see the form Juve should have in their league match in good form to get the full points.

Even though Napoli are above Juventus but this does not guarantee victory, remember Juventus are favorites for playing at home and during the last 5 matches this has a very good chance this is different from Napoli who have some bad performances and points drop to approach the bottom.
Still for me this match will not be flooded with many goals and it will probably end very little the possibility of a draw can also occur.

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This take-off happened due to the unevenness of the calendar - Juventus mostly had weak opponents, while it still did not take 100% of the points. Juventus' prospects will be clear towards the end of February when many of the big games in Serie A are played and the Champions League 1/8 finals will take place.

12 points behind leaders Inter is a lot, but nothing is impossible. They do miss Lukaku at Inter, but that doesn't seem to bother them so far. If Juventus are in form, they can beat anyone. In any case, they must ensure that they secure Champions League football for next season. They sill want to go for the title in the league, but that will be a tough task. Also depends on how the numbers 2, 3 and 4 are doing, they are also ahead of Juventus. Maybe they will focus on the Champions League now.

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If we were talking about the middle of the standings, then 12 points of advantage would really seem like a distance that can really be won back. But the leaders rarely lose points, therefore 12 points is a huge advantage here and the problem for Juventus is that no matter how quickly it ran after the leader, the maximum speed is always the same - 3 points per match.

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Ronaldo's leaving Juventus really affected the team in a bad way. He was scoring so many goals and was a really big help in their attacking line. Now, Juventus are having bigger problems on scoring comfortably. However, they are still doing good lately. They have had a nice unbeaten streak for many weeks and this carried them to the 5th place in the standings. And we should keep something in mind also that Juventus still ended the season at the 4th place last season despite having Ronaldo. Now, they are not in a much different situation. And this shows that Juventus can still play like themselves without Ronaldo also. They were already dominating the Serie A before Ronaldo joined the team in the end.

As Always the main problem of this team is the midfield.
Neither if they will buy Haaland they will score 20 more goals when you haven't players who are able to supply the strikers.

At the moment the priority to me are
2 players in the mid > Striker > left-back

I agree. Their priority should be signing solid midfielders. Because as you indicated also, they have a big weakness there. This is one of the main reasons why they are struggling to score many goals in one game. But they still can't make do with a striker like Morata of course. He is really a big disappointment for Juventus and actually every team he goes to. He is just an overrated striker I believe. He deserves the middle-placed teams the most. Maybe he can find himself at that kind of teams.

Not any player have character like Andrea Pirlo on Juventus midfielder and I think why this season very hard for Juventus take moment on Serie A, I think they have good player on forward position but less creativity on midfielder where not any player can take moment for making good planning when have defensive and attacking, many time Juventus only take two side left and right winger to make assist and less creativity as midfielder to give assist for their forward.

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Quote from: hahay on December 29, 2021, 09:57:43 AM

I personally don't believe Napoli will win in this match, as I said before about their head to head record when they face off, they very rarely get full points for away teams. With that note, I think it's pretty clear on paper Juventus will win and even if Napoli can put up a fight and get the points it will only be a draw by one point. Considering their current moment, I think the final result will at least still be close to the record on paper of Juventus winning or a draw with or without goals from both teams.

even though Napoli is ranked above Juventus. but the predictions that are widely rumored are based on the results of the team's performance in several matches and the record of the two teams' matches.
Juve is still the favorites to get the win in this match. see the form Juve should have in their league match in good form to get the full points.

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Quote from: Maidak on December 28, 2021, 02:28:39 PM

What do you think about the Napoli team? Will we see Napoli in third place in the table after the next 10 matches? I think Napoli will lose more points in the upcoming matches. Juventus is playing well now. They may be able to take the place of Napoli. But I'm not sure about Atalanta. They are a good team, a stable squad. However, they have lost points in the last two matches. If they want to play in the Champions League next season, they have to improve their performance.

For Napoli to be in the top 3 after 10 matches I don't know;
But I know that Napoli has been a wonderful team this season;
I also know that they are facing their trying time now;
I am aware they will bounce back;
Yes, I am sure they will finish ahead of Juventus;
Maybe at the top 4.

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I think that the biggest match of the next round will be Juventus v Napoli. Napoli are really not a credible team these days. They got so many bad results lately but somehow managed to beat Milan in an away match also. But this still doesn't change things much for them of course. It is obvious that they are going to have a big difficulty against an in-form Juventus. I think that both teams would be able to score. And I don't suppose that Juventus will lose this match.

Napoli can't be consistent now because even though Napoli can win against Milan even though it is an away match, but after that Napoli lost by Spezia as a bottom ranked team while it was a home match for Napoli. But with a result like that I think it's clear, Juventus must remain vigilant because teams like Napoli will still provide great resistance against teams of at least the same level. But even so, Juventus will still be the favorite team in this match because if we consider from a head to head perspective too, at least Juventus still dominates and head to head they rarely get full points for away teams.

Not only H2H Juventus excels, but the bookmakers also place Juve as the favorite team to win in this match, it's quite natural in my opinion because this is a home match for Juventus, but Napoli still have chance to beat Juve, Usually a team that is in inconsistent conditions like Napoli actually makes a surprise during the big match, Napoli did when beat Milan even if it's only with one goal.

Usually Napoli can be surprise when faced with bigger team but unbelievable when Napoli faced with small club, last two match before success defeat big team AC Milan playing as away but last match loss from Spezia playing as home. Looks not consistent although have bigger chance playing home Napoli failed get three points from Spezia and failed get second position standing. What happen when facing with Juventus because both team together want to win and take good position standing how ever Juventus out from champion league standing position right now.

I personally don't believe Napoli will win in this match, as I said before about their head to head record when they face off, they very rarely get full points for away teams. With that note, I think it's pretty clear on paper Juventus will win and even if Napoli can put up a fight and get the points it will only be a draw by one point. Considering their current moment, I think the final result will at least still be close to the record on paper of Juventus winning or a draw with or without goals from both teams.

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Ronaldo's leaving Juventus really affected the team in a bad way. He was scoring so many goals and was a really big help in their attacking line. Now, Juventus are having bigger problems on scoring comfortably. However, they are still doing good lately. They have had a nice unbeaten streak for many weeks and this carried them to the 5th place in the standings. And we should keep something in mind also that Juventus still ended the season at the 4th place last season despite having Ronaldo. Now, they are not in a much different situation. And this shows that Juventus can still play like themselves without Ronaldo also. They were already dominating the Serie A before Ronaldo joined the team in the end.

As Always the main problem of this team is the midfield.
Neither if they will buy Haaland they will score 20 more goals when you haven't players who are able to supply the strikers.

At the moment the priority to me are
2 players in the mid > Striker > left-back

I agree. Their priority should be signing solid midfielders. Because as you indicated also, they have a big weakness there. This is one of the main reasons why they are struggling to score many goals in one game. But they still can't make do with a striker like Morata of course. He is really a big disappointment for Juventus and actually every team he goes to. He is just an overrated striker I believe. He deserves the middle-placed teams the most. Maybe he can find himself at that kind of teams.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 28, 2021, 05:33:07 PM

I think that the biggest match of the next round will be Juventus v Napoli. Napoli are really not a credible team these days. They got so many bad results lately but somehow managed to beat Milan in an away match also. But this still doesn't change things much for them of course. It is obvious that they are going to have a big difficulty against an in-form Juventus. I think that both teams would be able to score. And I don't suppose that Juventus will lose this match.

Although now Juventus are starting to return to a positive track, but I personally might prefer to bet on Napoli victory, currently Napoli who are currently in third place will certainly not waste the opportunity to get points and to shorten the distance with Inter.
But unfortunately, now the spread of covid is starting to spread again and it is very likely that the match between Napoli and Juventus could be postponed.

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I think that the biggest match of the next round will be Juventus v Napoli. Napoli are really not a credible team these days. They got so many bad results lately but somehow managed to beat Milan in an away match also. But this still doesn't change things much for them of course. It is obvious that they are going to have a big difficulty against an in-form Juventus. I think that both teams would be able to score. And I don't suppose that Juventus will lose this match.

Napoli can't be consistent now because even though Napoli can win against Milan even though it is an away match, but after that Napoli lost by Spezia as a bottom ranked team while it was a home match for Napoli. But with a result like that I think it's clear, Juventus must remain vigilant because teams like Napoli will still provide great resistance against teams of at least the same level. But even so, Juventus will still be the favorite team in this match because if we consider from a head to head perspective too, at least Juventus still dominates and head to head they rarely get full points for away teams.

Not only H2H Juventus excels, but the bookmakers also place Juve as the favorite team to win in this match, it's quite natural in my opinion because this is a home match for Juventus, but Napoli still have chance to beat Juve, Usually a team that is in inconsistent conditions like Napoli actually makes a surprise during the big match, Napoli did when beat Milan even if it's only with one goal.

Usually Napoli can be surprise when faced with bigger team but unbelievable when Napoli faced with small club, last two match before success defeat big team AC Milan playing as away but last match loss from Spezia playing as home. Looks not consistent although have bigger chance playing home Napoli failed get three points from Spezia and failed get second position standing. What happen when facing with Juventus because both team together want to win and take good position standing how ever Juventus out from champion league standing position right now.

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Quote from: hahay on December 29, 2021, 02:48:07 AM

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I think that the biggest match of the next round will be Juventus v Napoli. Napoli are really not a credible team these days. They got so many bad results lately but somehow managed to beat Milan in an away match also. But this still doesn't change things much for them of course. It is obvious that they are going to have a big difficulty against an in-form Juventus. I think that both teams would be able to score. And I don't suppose that Juventus will lose this match.

Napoli can't be consistent now because even though Napoli can win against Milan even though it is an away match, but after that Napoli lost by Spezia as a bottom ranked team while it was a home match for Napoli. But with a result like that I think it's clear, Juventus must remain vigilant because teams like Napoli will still provide great resistance against teams of at least the same level. But even so, Juventus will still be the favorite team in this match because if we consider from a head to head perspective too, at least Juventus still dominates and head to head they rarely get full points for away teams.

Not only H2H Juventus excels, but the bookmakers also place Juve as the favorite team to win in this match, it's quite natural in my opinion because this is a home match for Juventus, but Napoli still have chance to beat Juve, Usually a team that is in inconsistent conditions like Napoli actually makes a surprise during the big match, Napoli did when beat Milan even if it's only with one goal.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 28, 2021, 05:33:07 PM

I think that the biggest match of the next round will be Juventus v Napoli. Napoli are really not a credible team these days. They got so many bad results lately but somehow managed to beat Milan in an away match also. But this still doesn't change things much for them of course. It is obvious that they are going to have a big difficulty against an in-form Juventus. I think that both teams would be able to score. And I don't suppose that Juventus will lose this match.

Napoli can't be consistent now because even though Napoli can win against Milan even though it is an away match, but after that Napoli lost by Spezia as a bottom ranked team while it was a home match for Napoli. But with a result like that I think it's clear, Juventus must remain vigilant because teams like Napoli will still provide great resistance against teams of at least the same level. But even so, Juventus will still be the favorite team in this match because if we consider from a head to head perspective too, at least Juventus still dominates and head to head they rarely get full points for away teams.

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Ronaldo arrival did not really have a significant impact on Juventus for the last 3 years, and even Ronaldo has actually failed to bring Juventus to be able to get a trophy in the Champions League, it's true as you said, so far Juventus have been able to show a pretty good performance in the league and champions league before the arrival of ronaldo

It's not true.

Ronaldo has his own issues because he joined Juventus when he was no longer young but to be fair, he still did his job very good by scoring lots of goals for Juventus. If you can find any player in Juventus score more goals in one season than Ronaldo in a few seasons before and after his appearance in Turin, tell me please.

Then Juventus have their issues too that are showing even in this season. Their squad are ageing and it seems their peak is with Max before the participation of Ronaldo. After Max, Juventus did not have good stability in coach position and it is harmful for their general performance. Ronaldo was affected by it as well.

I admit that if Ronaldo managed to break the record as the Juventus player who scored the most goals in the last decade, it is true that Ronaldo managed to help Juventus win the Copa and Italian League, but what we need to remember, if ronaldo is signed in order to bring Juventus to be able to win the Champions League which they haven't had since 1996, but precisely after the arrival of ronaldo, juventus in 3 consecutive seasons failed to reach the quarter-finals and worse was stopped by a non-seeded club, even though before Ronaldo came, Juventus twice advanced to the final, once stopped in the final last 16 and once in the quarter-finals in the last 4 years.
Ronaldo was signed by Juventus in the 2018 season and obviously at that time Ronaldo performance and stamina was still extraordinary and I don't think he was too old at that time, I think Ronaldo presence at Juventus has actually changed Juventus style of play all this time and as a coach, Allegri certainly has did a good job so far at juventus, and it's precisely the departure of ronaldo that will make stability better in my opinion.

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Quote from: ingiltere on December 28, 2021, 05:33:42 PM

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Napoli should be able to end the season at a good place in the standings. Despite their bad form recently, they still deserve to end at one of the top four places and qualify for the Champions League groups. They just need to stand up and fight with all they've got. And they have a really tough fixture ahead against Juventus away. Juventus have been in a great shape for some weeks. Napoli will have a hard time in this game but it is not impossible to get a win for them.

Only one win in last five games is surely concerning but luckily help come from half time of the season. I'm sure they will pick themselves up and get good results in second half of the season. The most positive thing about Napoli is that they beat their direct opponents. You talk like they are out of top four, they are still one of the biggest contenders of championship. There is only seven points difference with Inter. Inter started a win streak after they beat Napoli. Napoli started the season with a win streak. They have very similar form, just in different times.

Indeed, everything is still ahead and everything can change dramatically in the second round, because I cannot believe that Inter's winless streak will continue until the end of the season and the club will not experience difficulties at a certain stage. If Napoli can cope with its problems and starts to gain points steadily again, it will be a serious contender not just for a place in the Champions League, but also a contender for the Scudetto. The clubs will have to play each other once more in the second round and this is another chance to reduce the gap in points. As they say, all winning streaks tend to end, and defeats can serve as the beginning of a new winning streak Wink

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Quote from: Maidak on December 28, 2021, 02:28:39 PM

What do you think about the Napoli team? Will we see Napoli in third place in the table after the next 10 matches? I think Napoli will lose more points in the upcoming matches. Juventus is playing well now. They may be able to take the place of Napoli. But I'm not sure about Atalanta. They are a good team, a stable squad. However, they have lost points in the last two matches. If they want to play in the Champions League next season, they have to improve their performance.

They will lose 3-4 players for the Copa Africa in January but I'm sure knowing their president they will find something to postpone games as first the one with Juventus.

I'm 99% sure the game will be not played.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 28, 2021, 01:30:35 PM

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It looks like Juventus can really get themselves out of a bad situation in the Serie A this season. After starting to get very satisfying results on the last weeks, they have climbed to the 5th place. And there is not a big point gap with especially the 3rd and 4th-placed teams in the standings now. Besides, Juventus have a home match against Napoli next time. This is a really big one for Juventus and we will see how they are willing to end in top 4.

This take-off happened due to the unevenness of the calendar - Juventus mostly had weak opponents, while it still did not take 100% of the points. Juventus' prospects will be clear towards the end of February when many of the big games in Serie A are played and the Champions League 1/8 finals will take place.

It is not really about facing easier opponents, because everyone plays with each other twice and that's the way league works, sure sometimes you get weak opponents back to back and that gives you a good momentum but that doesn't change the fact that everyone plays the same teams twice.

Juventus is doing "better", they are not suddenly great or even good but they are at least on a "decent" level right now which is all people asked for. I get that they may not become champions this year, but going to champions league at the very lowest success is good enough for fans. I am not Italian nor support any Italian teams but I would rather see Juventus then some other team.

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Quote from: diyetisman on December 28, 2021, 04:25:35 PM

Napoli should be able to end the season at a good place in the standings. Despite their bad form recently, they still deserve to end at one of the top four places and qualify for the Champions League groups. They just need to stand up and fight with all they've got. And they have a really tough fixture ahead against Juventus away. Juventus have been in a great shape for some weeks. Napoli will have a hard time in this game but it is not impossible to get a win for them.

Only one win in last five games is surely concerning but luckily help come from half time of the season. I'm sure they will pick themselves up and get good results in second half of the season. The most positive thing about Napoli is that they beat their direct opponents. You talk like they are out of top four, they are still one of the biggest contenders of championship. There is only seven points difference with Inter. Inter started a win streak after they beat Napoli. Napoli started the season with a win streak. They have very similar form, just in different times.

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