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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 18, 2021, 11:42:37 AM

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I think the main reason why Milan AC performs much better in Serie A is because most Italian teams handle the same style of play, they know each other very well and obviously the one who plays the best game will reign, and when compared with the CL everything changes, it is a clash of styles of play, obviously it is measured which is the strongest and the most effective, of course I remember the Milan of Paolo Maldini or the one with Kaká, who had a level totally adapted to the league already the CL.

Yup, it looks like it's the style of play that makes AC Milan squad unable to adapt to the UCL style. However, this is also not entirely the reason for Milan's failure in the UCL. They are in a tough group, Milan players are new to the UCL atmosphere, the mentality of the Milan players has not been very good for league pressure, but they have to play against teams like Liverpool, ATM and Porto where they are in better form and mentality at UCL. This season can be new experience for AC Milan in UCL, next season might be better if they are qualified again.

Maybe non-technical factors are also one of the reasons why AC Milan failed miserably in the champions league this season, one of the reasons is that almost all Milan players this season are players who have just felt the atmosphere of the champions league and Milan has been absent for several years in the champions league, maybe the inaugural season after being absent for several seasons, it became one of the facts and obstacles why AC Milan was so bad in the champions league. this season.

Honestly, this cannot be an excuse that they haven't been in Japanese for a long time so when they have got the chance they will do badly for the first time. If anything they should have been ready for the tougher chances that they will get in the champions trophy.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 18, 2021, 11:42:37 AM

Maybe non-technical factors are also one of the reasons why AC Milan failed miserably in the champions league this season, one of the reasons is that almost all Milan players this season are players who have just felt the atmosphere of the champions league and Milan has been absent for several years in the champions league, maybe the inaugural season after being absent for several seasons, it became one of the facts and obstacles why AC Milan was so bad in the champions league. this season.

So you mean ac milan stage fright this season after a long absence in the champions league?
I agree with you, maybe the experience of the players is a factor that makes AC Milan fail in the Champions League this season, but in my opinion the inclusion of Milan in the Hell group is the main cause of Milan failure, as we know that the quality of Liverpool and ATM players is still above the squad owned by milan, so of course it makes ac milan very difficult to win, besides that maybe because the quality between the Champions League and Serie A is very much different and that is the reason why AC milan is so great in the league but failed in the champions league.

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Quote from: masulum on November 18, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

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I think the main reason why Milan AC performs much better in Serie A is because most Italian teams handle the same style of play, they know each other very well and obviously the one who plays the best game will reign, and when compared with the CL everything changes, it is a clash of styles of play, obviously it is measured which is the strongest and the most effective, of course I remember the Milan of Paolo Maldini or the one with Kaká, who had a level totally adapted to the league already the CL.

Yup, it looks like it's the style of play that makes AC Milan squad unable to adapt to the UCL style. However, this is also not entirely the reason for Milan's failure in the UCL. They are in a tough group, Milan players are new to the UCL atmosphere, the mentality of the Milan players has not been very good for league pressure, but they have to play against teams like Liverpool, ATM and Porto where they are in better form and mentality at UCL. This season can be new experience for AC Milan in UCL, next season might be better if they are qualified again.

Maybe non-technical factors are also one of the reasons why AC Milan failed miserably in the champions league this season, one of the reasons is that almost all Milan players this season are players who have just felt the atmosphere of the champions league and Milan has been absent for several years in the champions league, maybe the inaugural season after being absent for several seasons, it became one of the facts and obstacles why AC Milan was so bad in the champions league. this season.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 18, 2021, 07:49:05 AM

I think the main reason why Milan AC performs much better in Serie A is because most Italian teams handle the same style of play, they know each other very well and obviously the one who plays the best game will reign, and when compared with the CL everything changes, it is a clash of styles of play, obviously it is measured which is the strongest and the most effective, of course I remember the Milan of Paolo Maldini or the one with Kaká, who had a level totally adapted to the league already the CL.

Yup, it looks like it's the style of play that makes AC Milan squad unable to adapt to the UCL style. However, this is also not entirely the reason for Milan's failure in the UCL. They are in a tough group, Milan players are new to the UCL atmosphere, the mentality of the Milan players has not been very good for league pressure, but they have to play against teams like Liverpool, ATM and Porto where they are in better form and mentality at UCL. This season can be new experience for AC Milan in UCL, next season might be better if they are qualified again.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 18, 2021, 07:49:05 AM

I think the main reason why Milan AC performs much better in Serie A is because most Italian teams handle the same style of play, they know each other very well and obviously the one who plays the best game will reign

Champions League is different than Serie A, more competitive and you are right about difference in tactic, style of play. Once more, players always have pressure when they have debuts, in a new club, a national team, or Champions League. In reality many players of AC Milan have their first experience in Champions League so I don't expect all of them can play well there.

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when compared with the CL everything changes, it is a clash of styles of play, obviously it is measured which is the strongest and the most effective, of course I remember the Milan of Paolo Maldini or the one with Kaká, who had a level totally adapted to the league already the CL.

The time with Kaka and Paolo Maldini, AC Milan had very experienced players and they are one of best players in their positions, from defense to attacking. It is like one of dream teams in Europe with Maldini, Costarcuta, Nesta, Cafu, Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrossini, Seedord, Kaka and Shevchenko.

Don't forget that they also had Stamp, Crespo, Inzaghi and few great players. Now, they are coming back and don't see their failure in this season as too bad. It's just the beginning for AC Milan to return to their giant position in Champions League.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 14, 2021, 05:03:03 PM

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In Champions League, Juventus have better performance than I thought. It is contradictory with AC Milan's performance there. In this season, Juventus can be the strongest club of Italy in Champions League.

That's right, AC Milan is very difficult to face its opponents in the UCL. Being in a group that has a solid squad. BTW, AC Milan also has the opportunity to not be able to compete in UEL because in the current standings they are in position 4. In other side, Allegri can focus his team on UCL considering that in Serie A they are in a bad form.

It's very different and AC Milan for the big competition can't continue due to its poor performance, but if AC Milan is more stable in Serie A I think it's also a noble goal to be champions.
But still AC Milan in Serie A must continue to compete with Napoli for now maybe later in the future there will usually be more rivals between Inter or Atalanta who can catch up with him.
AC Milan in the Champions League and European leagues has no hope at all even though the performance in the league is very impressive, it will still be different from what we imagined so far.

I think the main reason why Milan AC performs much better in Serie A is because most Italian teams handle the same style of play, they know each other very well and obviously the one who plays the best game will reign, and when compared with the CL everything changes, it is a clash of styles of play, obviously it is measured which is the strongest and the most effective, of course I remember the Milan of Paolo Maldini or the one with Kaká, who had a level totally adapted to the league already the CL.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 18, 2021, 05:08:23 AM

Probably with this in mind, the bet on the fact that both teams will score with odds of 1.61 looks like easy money (and I think that Roma will win this match).

Rome looks stronger than Genoa. I think if you bet on Rome it's natural. In the last three games Genoa get a draw, while Roma twice lost. Genoa will try to win to avoid the relegation zone. For Roma they also have to win to be safe in 6th position. Roma will be without the injured Pellegrini. Maybe Roma won but not by a big margin, maybe genoa will be a little lucky to play at home.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 18, 2021, 04:04:13 AM

Roma needs a player like Lukaku and Karin benzema, if they had these two players they would be a team that would score a lot of goals, in defense they can improve even with these current players, because from what I see when they strive they can have good results in defense, they concede a lot of goals when playing against small teams and concede few goals when playing against big teams

Roma played against Napoli and didn't concede a goal

Roma played against juventus and conceded only 1 goal

But Roma played against Venezia and conceded 3 goals

I have doubts that they can win Genoa

I think any club needs such players Cheesy

As for your observations, it rather suggests that playing against the "big" clubs Roma focuses on defense and, first of all, tries to play a draw, and in matches with the underdogs it tries to play according to the principle "we will score more than they can score to us." Probably with this in mind, the bet on the fact that both teams will score with odds of 1.61 looks like easy money (and I think that Roma will win this match).

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Roma played against Napoli and didn't concede a goal

Roma played against juventus and conceded only 1 goal

But Roma played against Venezia and conceded 3 goals and didn't score a goal

I have doubts that they can win Genoa

Both Juventus and Roma has not tmbeing playing up to expectations this season. Juventus in 7th while Roma in 9th. I am not expecting much from both clubs this season but I believe they will both make still go up the table but will not win the league.

About Roma which you are talking about, playing with Venezia should have been a flawless victory but instead it was another that happened, with Veneziasxored 3 goals to 2 goals scored by Roma. It was a home match for Venezia but such club should be able to win Roma but anything can happen in a match. Roma playing with Genoa is still an away match for Roma, i can not take this type of match tto bet because Roma will likely win this time because of their worst recent past, but I am not confident about this too.

You can check Genoa, the club is not good this season at home, it is the least on the table in home matches played, that is why I think the club will lose to Roma.

I've corrected it, they managed to score 2 goals against venezia, I had bet on them in that game, I watch the game and honestly I was angry because they were in my parlay and they lost. for this game against Genoa I will not bet on who will win, I prefer to look for some other market in this game or I will bet on other games

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Quote from: Slow death on November 18, 2021, 04:04:13 AM

Roma played against Napoli and didn't concede a goal

Roma played against juventus and conceded only 1 goal

But Roma played against Venezia and conceded 3 goals and didn't score a goal

I have doubts that they can win Genoa

Both Juventus and Roma has not been playing up to expectations this season. Juventus in 7th while Roma in 9th. I am not expecting much from both clubs this season but I believe they will both still go up the table but will not win the league.

About Roma which you are talking about, playing with Venezia should have been a flawless victory but instead it was another that happened, Venezia scored 3 goals and 2 goals scored by Roma. It was a home match for Venezia but such club shouldn't be able to win Roma but anything can happen in a match.

Roma playing with Genoa is still an away match for Roma, i can not take this type of match to bet because Roma will likely win this time because of their worst recent past which can give Roma players big win after tedious training, but I am not confident about this too.

You can check Genoa, the club is not good this season at home, it is the least on the table in home matches played, that is why I think the club will lose to Roma.

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I would like to talk a little about Roma also. After signing Jose Mourinho, the level of expectation from has increased a lot. The supporters started believing in their team more as there was a silver lining for them considering this season. Because they were just terrible in the last season. As you can remember, Roma barely were able to qualify for the ECL by ending at the 7th place and Sassuolo also got the same points.

Considering this season, we can say that they started very well. And people were hyped up about Roma's chance for even the title maybe. But it turns out that they have been quite bad recently. They won only one of their last five games in the Serie A. After losing so many points, the gap with the leader has risen to 13 points now. And we are seeing them at the 6th place. There is still a long road ahead of course as we've left only 12 games. But they must try harder to recover. Otherwise, Mourinho also won't be able to save the team.

for Roma to be able to be champions, they need to hire good players to score goals, in defense they can be good when they try hard, they can't score many goals when they face big teams like Milan, Napoli, Juventus and others and they manage to have a good defense , but lose and concede a lot of goals when playing against small teams, this has been a big problem for the Roma. I'm even wondering if it's worth betting on roma to win the genoa

I agree with the aspect you look to this situation from. I also think that the quality of their squad is not good enough to win the title. Actually it is still not impossible with this squad of course. But it would be great if they made some additions to it. They have signed some good players like Tammy Abraham. But this is not enough for me. They should look for the players in bigger quality. This way, they can compete better for the top places and the title.

Roma needs a player like Lukaku and Karin benzema, if they had these two players they would be a team that would score a lot of goals, in defense they can improve even with these current players, because from what I see when they strive they can have good results in defense, they concede a lot of goals when playing against small teams and concede few goals when playing against big teams

Roma played against Napoli and didn't concede a goal

Roma played against juventus and conceded only 1 goal

But Roma played against Venezia and conceded 3 goals

I have doubts that they can win Genoa

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The match is quite interesting in the continuation of Serie A week 13 between Inter Milan vs Napoli, both teams will definitely want to win, especially Napoli in order to maintain the first position in the standings, while Inter Milan who is 7 points adrift of Napoli will definitely want to get three points and keep chance to win the Scudetto twice in a row.

It's been difficult for Inter to get the Scudetto this season and after Conte's departure, the fact is that Inter still looks good but it's not enough for Inter to be stronger and not enough to get the title back this season. The match between Inter - Napoli is of course a big match, both have a mission to win but with the composition of players and team performance so far, I personally predict the match will end in a draw or at least win by a thin score, betting under x.xx goal is best choice for me.

At the beginning of Serie A Inter Milan appeared quite convincing but until week 13 Inter's performance declined even less convincingly they were able to win the Scudetto again this season, but the league is still quite long and anything can happen considering that last season Inter Milan also got in second place even in third place in the middle of the season. Before finally being able to become champions and appear consistent with the last 10 matches remaining.

Yes, it's true, but with a different coach I'm just not sure but yes, anything can still happen and I hope Simone Inzaghi can keep Inter's form stable. I don't expect a win in every match, because just getting one point is good enough for a team to be consistently competing in the title race. Just like before, when against a top team, the target to win is always the main mission, but if that mission cannot be achieved then making the match by sharing points remains a good thing too, at least so Inter will remain in the top circle of the standings.

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The match is quite interesting in the continuation of Serie A week 13 between Inter Milan vs Napoli, both teams will definitely want to win, especially Napoli in order to maintain the first position in the standings, while Inter Milan who is 7 points adrift of Napoli will definitely want to get three points and keep chance to win the Scudetto twice in a row.

week 13 of Naples vs Inter Milan, Inter Milan is most likely able to bring home 3 points, I am also optimistic that Inter Milan will be able to provide a fierce resistance and be able to beat Napoli, but Inter Milan is able to defend their title, I am not sure, because this year I am very optimistic that AC Milan will lift the La Liga title..

I agree Inter will beat Napoli and end Napoli's unbeaten run, however Inter must have a strong desire to defend the Serie A title. Moreover, Inter play
at home, this will further increase the morale of Inter players to beat Napoli. Besides that, Napoli have just met two big Serie A teams, namely
Juventus and Roma, and even then Juventus at the beginning of the season had not found their best game and Roma often played inconsistently.
So facing Juventus and Roma can't be a parameter that Napoli deserves to be a trophy winner this season. We'll see if it turns out that Napoli can beat
Inter or the game ends in a draw, if it turns out that Napoli can beat Inter I can say that Napoli is a strong candidate to win the Serie A trophy this season.
So I'm actually really looking forward to the big match Inter vs Napoli. But for now I predict the winner of the Serie A trophy this season between
Inter or AC Milan.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 17, 2021, 11:13:08 AM

The match is quite interesting in the continuation of Serie A week 13 between Inter Milan vs Napoli, both teams will definitely want to win, especially Napoli in order to maintain the first position in the standings, while Inter Milan who is 7 points adrift of Napoli will definitely want to get three points and keep chance to win the Scudetto twice in a row.

week 13 of Naples vs Inter Milan, Inter Milan is most likely able to bring home 3 points, I am also optimistic that Inter Milan will be able to provide a fierce resistance and be able to beat Napoli, but Inter Milan is able to defend their title, I am not sure, because this year I am very optimistic that AC Milan will lift the La Liga title..

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Quote from: hahay on November 17, 2021, 11:36:41 AM

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The match is quite interesting in the continuation of Serie A week 13 between Inter Milan vs Napoli, both teams will definitely want to win, especially Napoli in order to maintain the first position in the standings, while Inter Milan who is 7 points adrift of Napoli will definitely want to get three points and keep chance to win the Scudetto twice in a row.

It's been difficult for Inter to get the Scudetto this season and after Conte's departure, the fact is that Inter still looks good but it's not enough for Inter to be stronger and not enough to get the title back this season. The match between Inter - Napoli is of course a big match, both have a mission to win but with the composition of players and team performance so far, I personally predict the match will end in a draw or at least win by a thin score, betting under x.xx goal is best choice for me.

At the beginning of Serie A Inter Milan appeared quite convincing but until week 13 Inter's performance declined even less convincingly they were able to win the Scudetto again this season, but the league is still quite long and anything can happen considering that last season Inter Milan also got in second place even in third place in the middle of the season. Before finally being able to become champions and appear consistent with the last 10 matches remaining.

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Seriously, Napoli will lose to Inter Milan?
I think now Napoli are in their best form, although maybe you think Inter Milan is better than Napoli and I don't know why you chose Inter Milan in that match, but I don't think 2-1 is not the ideal score, I personally see Napoli will win the match or at least the possibility of the match will end in a draw later and my reason is of course by looking at the current performance of both teams.

Why not? Look at the statistics of Inter's games at home against Napoli, it says a lot. Inter is also a very strong team, which is not going to just give points at home, no Napoli, or for any other clubs. It is quite possible that there will be a neat game in which one goal scored can decide the outcome of the match. So why Inter can't score a goal, and close in defense? I looked at the odds of the bookmakers, for Inter win they give 2.1, and for Napoli the odds are 3.3, that is, according to the bookmakers, Inter is the favorite of this match.

From the head to head that exists between Intermilan and Napoli, Intermilan looks better than Napoli when playing at home, but I don't think we can use head to head as a reference if Inter Milan will always be win of Napoli, we also need to see how the conditions are both teams this season and Napoli who are unbeaten at all are certainly in high motivation to maintain their record, after all this season Inter Milan have drawn several times despite playing at home, and it shows that Napoli can also get one point in San Siro Stadium later.

maybe head-to-head inter is superior, but apart from that, all head-to-head is just a story of the past that is used as a shield and a team's sense of trust so that they can refer to it.
now the situation is different and inter now i can say lost in every way when compared to napoli, be it in performance, stats per game inter still lose to napoli for now.
other than that inter are still faced with injuries to some of their players even for this match there are some of their players who are doubtful.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 15, 2021, 02:40:23 PM

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I would like to talk a little about Roma also. After signing Jose Mourinho, the level of expectation from has increased a lot. The supporters started believing in their team more as there was a silver lining for them considering this season. Because they were just terrible in the last season. As you can remember, Roma barely were able to qualify for the ECL by ending at the 7th place and Sassuolo also got the same points.

Considering this season, we can say that they started very well. And people were hyped up about Roma's chance for even the title maybe. But it turns out that they have been quite bad recently. They won only one of their last five games in the Serie A. After losing so many points, the gap with the leader has risen to 13 points now. And we are seeing them at the 6th place. There is still a long road ahead of course as we've left only 12 games. But they must try harder to recover. Otherwise, Mourinho also won't be able to save the team.

for Roma to be able to be champions, they need to hire good players to score goals, in defense they can be good when they try hard, they can't score many goals when they face big teams like Milan, Napoli, Juventus and others and they manage to have a good defense , but lose and concede a lot of goals when playing against small teams, this has been a big problem for the Roma. I'm even wondering if it's worth betting on roma to win the genoa

I agree with the aspect you look to this situation from. I also think that the quality of their squad is not good enough to win the title. Actually it is still not impossible with this squad of course. But it would be great if they made some additions to it. They have signed some good players like Tammy Abraham. But this is not enough for me. They should look for the players in bigger quality. This way, they can compete better for the top places and the title.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 17, 2021, 09:51:11 AM

Napoli are in very good form this season and I am not siding with Napoli but indeed they are playing very well especially in defense which is Inter's job to penetrate the Napoli defense.
indeed if you look at the previous match, Inter are better than Napoli and will be the favorite team and are required to win against Napoli to be able to maintain their Scudeto.
It will be a very interesting game which I don't want to miss because I see Napoli are better at the moment than Inter even though I feel Inter will win. Cheesy

In the match with Milan, Inter was also the favorite (if I remember correctly), but managed to take only one point. Therefore, there are no guarantees that his success will be better in the match against Napoli. Perhaps Napoli will win at all - personally, I think this outcome is no less likely than Inter's victory. Large of the bettors put their bets on the "name" and not on the team given its real strength, and the bookmakers take this into account, perhaps that is why, according to the odds, we see that Inter is the favorite.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 17, 2021, 11:13:08 AM

The match is quite interesting in the continuation of Serie A week 13 between Inter Milan vs Napoli, both teams will definitely want to win, especially Napoli in order to maintain the first position in the standings, while Inter Milan who is 7 points adrift of Napoli will definitely want to get three points and keep chance to win the Scudetto twice in a row.

It's been difficult for Inter to get the Scudetto this season and after Conte's departure, the fact is that Inter still looks good but it's not enough for Inter to be stronger and not enough to get the title back this season. The match between Inter - Napoli is of course a big match, both have a mission to win but with the composition of players and team performance so far, I personally predict the match will end in a draw or at least win by a thin score, betting under x.xx goal is best choice for me.

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The match is quite interesting in the continuation of Serie A week 13 between Inter Milan vs Napoli, both teams will definitely want to win, especially Napoli in order to maintain the first position in the standings, while Inter Milan who is 7 points adrift of Napoli will definitely want to get three points and keep chance to win the Scudetto twice in a row.

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