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in other threads there was talk of letting 10,000 people into the stadium, while I argued that it was wrong ..

I feel absolutely right about avoiding other ways that allow the spread of the virus and consequently the closure of "commercial" sport.. for example DONT LETTING people to go to the stadium ... not 10,000

is sad, i know

but i better to close all -> we can see match in tv

I think the problem the league is seeing is the financial problem it will cause if the still continue to play matches with empty stadiums, I know it may sound selfish on the team's part but if they don't do these move there is a big chance that these companies will lose money or worst be out of the league for bankruptcy. If their own government allows such actions from the league then we really don't have any choice but just to let them be, for fans who don't want to be affected by the virus you will have the option to stay at home.
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I partially agree with you, I think the best way is all players should be re-tested to see if the corona is positive or not without stopping the game and then allow them to play.
But If the condition is very deplorable after re-testing then not only series A but also La Liga and Champion league should be discontinued.
Not only in the world of sport. We are all potentially infected if we don't follow proper health protocol and follow the rules. In football, retesting has to be done regularly because you always play in different cities. They travel even if only with club, but who would have thought they were all agent who could spread the virus. I think all the current leagues can continue well, because I think all football teams are very good at dealing with infected players and I have never heard of any sad news that has come from a football team so far because of Covid-19.
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I partially agree with you, I think the best way is all players should be re-tested to see if the corona is positive or not without stopping the game and then allow them to play.
But If the condition is very deplorable after re-testing then not only series A but also La Liga and Champion league should be discontinued.

Every league is following the EUFA protocol most likley, they just need to remove useless games like the Nation's league and create the bubble like the NBA otherwise il will hard to complete the season, well that ofcourse depends if we can have a decent vaccine near Xmas.

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temporarily stopping the fixtures will only cause future fixtures collisions, I think it's better to replace players with healthy ones so that the match schedule is not interrupted.  but this is what makes me confused, we all know that C Ronaldo is the healthiest player among the others but why did he get infected with covid 19, I better wait for the official announcement from Juve about this news..
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in other threads there was talk of letting 10,000 people into the stadium, while I argued that it was wrong ..

I feel absolutely right about avoiding other ways that allow the spread of the virus and consequently the closure of "commercial" sport.. for example DONT LETTING people to go to the stadium ... not 10,000

is sad, i know

but i better to close all -> we can see match in tv
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The best solution for Serie A is to take a break. It helps to quarrantine infected players and team members. After a break for 2 weeks, test again all team members and maybe prolong it up to 4 weeks. After that resume Serie A again. It is not bad in my opinion. Keep the league running like this will be unfair for all teams.

Ronaldo also has positive test result.

If last season, a few months break did not destroy the leauge, this season will have better ending.

Ronaldo is also positive and he played against teams such as Spain that could be spread the virus to another league as well.
If Italy wants to keep the Serie A going they need to stop the league for 20 days and then start again. it would be a better measurement because on the other hand we are going to see a longer pause if we see more infections on going.
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Oh wow a lot to announce in italy , besides indeed italy is one of the highest number of covid19 cases .. it got me thinking that those covid19 test in serie A could be really manipulated isn't it? I mean since serie A well known as one of corrupted league in the world as well.

If the number of cases in serie A continue to grow , aren't they supposed to suspend the league?(again)

Not true, cases in Italy are less than in other leagues, we are in a situation similar to Germany.



Source: https://www.rainews.it/ran24/speciali/2020/covid19/europe.php

But numbers are irrelevant if we don't know the number of tested cases, here in Italy players are tested every 4 days and we do around 100k tests/day over the population and I don't know the numbers of other Nations.

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The best solution for Serie A is to take a break. It helps to quarrantine infected players and team members. After a break for 2 weeks, test again all team members and maybe prolong it up to 4 weeks. After that resume Serie A again. It is not bad in my opinion. Keep the league running like this will be unfair for all teams.

Ronaldo also has positive test result.

If last season, a few months break did not destroy the leauge, this season will have better ending.

that reports also now the portal transfermarkt.co.uk

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Cristiano Ronaldo tested positive for COVID-19 - No other positive tests
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/cristiano-ronaldo-tested-positive-for-covid-19-no-other-positive-tests/view/news/372806#
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Ronaldo also has positive test result.

I saw Christiano Ronaldo trending #3 on the bird app (twitter) and got the news he tested positive while on international duty. It's not looking good for Juventus aa their star man would miss the game with Crotone this weekend and probably their champions league group stage opening game too.

The rate at which players are getting the virusin seria A is kinda alarming. We don't see such numbers in other leagues. Till date, we are still waiting for a ruling for the Juventus vs Napoli game that was postponed. I'm also of the opinion of pausing the league for 2 - 3 weeks until the dust settles.
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The best solution for Serie A is to take a break. It helps to quarrantine infected players and team members. After a break for 2 weeks, test again all team members and maybe prolong it up to 4 weeks. After that resume Serie A again. It is not bad in my opinion. Keep the league running like this will be unfair for all teams.

Ronaldo also has positive test result.

If last season, a few months break did not destroy the leauge, this season will have better ending.
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Inter has now one more positive, they are now 6.
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I also read the latest news if Diawara As Roma Player was positive Covid-19. Historically he went for friendly matches and the Guinean national team's training camp in Portugal. This increases the number of positive cases of Covid-19 in As Roma to five players. Previously Bruno Peres, Carles Perez, Justin Kluivert, and Antonio Mirante also tested positive for Covid-19.

Source:  https://www.instagram.com/p/CGQJovXgllI/?utm_source=ig_embed
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hmph..
I mean since serie A well known as one of corrupted league in the world as well.
hahaha

If the number of cases in serie A continue to grow , aren't they supposed to suspend the league?(again)
Maybe, if in the next few weeks players are positive increased, of course this will be done by FIGC. If the FIGC doesn't stop it,  I think the Italian government will start taking in action to stopping the league. We have to remember that Italy is a country that has a 10% number of COVID-19 patients dying, I think the decision to stop the league will be made to prevent this from happening again.
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Inter has now one more positive, they are now 6.

Source: https://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/inter/inter-conte-non-vuole-correre-rischi-isolamento-ad-appiano-in-vista-del-derby_24059150-202002a.shtml

The next game for Inter should be with Milan next weekend.
Oh wow a lot to announce in italy , besides indeed italy is one of the highest number of covid19 cases .. it got me thinking that those covid19 test in serie A could be really manipulated isn't it? I mean since serie A well known as one of corrupted league in the world as well.

If the number of cases in serie A continue to grow , aren't they supposed to suspend the league?(again)
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Juventus are increasingly dedicating themselves as champions of Serie A this season, this can be seen how serious Juventus are in bringing in quality players. After bringing back Alvaro Morata from Atletico Madrid, Juventus have now managed to bring in a classy attacker Chiesa from Fiorentina. Very appropriate step for Juventus in composing the composition of players, they now have a very reliable attacker after Cristiano Ronaldo, Dybala, Moratta to Chiesa. It is worth taking into account for other clubs to disrupt the dominance of Juventus while maintaining their title this season.
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Inter has now one more positive, they are now 6.

Source: https://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/inter/inter-conte-non-vuole-correre-rischi-isolamento-ad-appiano-in-vista-del-derby_24059150-202002a.shtml

The next game for Inter should be with Milan next weekend.
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Yes and that's is why I wrote the "same typical joke from Italy".
Justice here in Italy its a joke.

They have a rule and instead of applying it they will end with change it.

And yes is a big deal otherwise another team will use this sabotage to skip games, Napoli wasn't with their best player (out for injury and 2 players out for COVID) or teams will do the same when a key player will miss.

Why Milan is playing games without 2 players with the COVID and Napoli can skip games?
Why PSG was playing without 7, Liverpool without 3 and we all use the UEFA protocol?

Typical Italian thing.
In my opinion this is a form of injustice for all team that play in Serie A. Napoli should not be banned just because some of their player are infected because previously other team were also allowed to play even though there were player who were infected. If Napoli fail to implement proper health protocols so that any player get infected, then other team like Milan should also get the same because they are infected too. But in fact, everything has changed and now it look like Napoli will miss that game.
I disagree with your opinion although Napoli miss two player after positive covid 19, last game when Napoli beat Genoa almost Genoa player positive covid 19 but they keep going on match based on schedule and not ask to FICG to pause their match, how come Napoli just left two player after getting positive covid 19 and ask to FICG to stop their match, is fair or not? look with AC Mila two week without Zlatan Ibrahimovic and miss three match for Ac Milan but the Rossoneri keep continue their match without ask to FIGC to pause their match.
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https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2020/10/03/documento-asl-napoli-juventus-covid/


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Emergono nuovi particolari sulla decisione dell’ASL Napoli 2 Nord dopo la positività al Covid-19 di due calciatori (Zielinsky ed Elmas) del Napoli e di un membro dello staff.

Secondo quanto riferito dall’agenzia dell’ANSA nel documento della ASL (di cui l’ANSA ha preso visione) non è esplicitato il divieto del Napoli di partire per Torino, né è sancito che il gruppo squadra deve rimanere a casa con le proprie famiglie.

Nella nota della ASL si parla correttamente di “isolamento volontario”, ma l’azienda sanitaria, competente sul piano medico, non è tenuta ad esplicitare che giuridicamente il protocollo sugli atleti professionisti varato dal Ministero della Salute all’ultimo punto prevede la possibilità per i calciatori, a fronte della negatività del tampone, di scendere in campo e consentire il regolare svolgimento della gara. Salvo poi riprendere il periodo di quarantena fino al termine previsto.

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New details emerge on the decision of the ASL Napoli 2 Nord after the positive Covid-19 of two Napoli players (Zielinsky and Elmas) and a staff member.

According to what was reported by the ANSA agency in the ASL document (which ANSA has read) the prohibition of Napoli from leaving for Turin is not explicit, nor is it established that the team group must stay at home with their families .

The note of the ASL correctly speaks of "voluntary isolation", but the health company, which is competent on a medical level, is not required to make clear that legally the protocol on professional athletes launched by the Ministry of Health at the last point provides for the possibility for players, in the face of the negativity of the buffer, to take the field and allow the smooth running of the match. Unless then resume the quarantine period until the deadline.


Again we have a Uefa protocol everyone is Europe is following it and Napoli did not.


AFAIK the ASL spoken because they violated the COVID protocol creating the bubble in a predetermined hotel.
Every team must have this "hotel" and Napoli did not.
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Yes and that's is why I wrote the "same typical joke from Italy".
Justice here in Italy its a joke.

They have a rule and instead of applying it they will end with change it.

And yes is a big deal otherwise another team will use this sabotage to skip games, Napoli wasn't with their best player (out for injury and 2 players out for COVID) or teams will do the same when a key player will miss.

Why Milan is playing games without 2 players with the COVID and Napoli can skip games?
Why PSG was playing without 7, Liverpool without 3 and we all use the UEFA protocol?

Typical Italian thing.
In my opinion this is a form of injustice for all team that play in Serie A. Napoli should not be banned just because some of their player are infected because previously other team were also allowed to play even though there were player who were infected. If Napoli fail to implement proper health protocols so that any player get infected, then other team like Milan should also get the same because they are infected too. But in fact, everything has changed and now it look like Napoli will miss that game.
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@coinlocket$ I read this Italian magazine in English. It explains very well what happened and why the Italian Health authorities (ASL) denied Napoli to go to Turin
"Nel frattempo continua il carteggio tra il Napoli e le due ASL coinvolte nella storia, altro versante delicato dell'indagine. Il Napoli chiede chiarimenti a fronte delle indicazioni fornite dall'ASL nelle varie comunicazioni e arriva a coinvolgere anche la Regione Campania: tra una mail e l'altra si perde il ruolo centrale del protocollo e alle 18:25, mediante l'intervento del vicecapo di gabinetto della Regione, viene sancito l'isolamento domiciliare per tutti i calciatori e i membri dello staff. Per il Napoli si tratta evidentemente di un divieto e salta la partenza per Torino, programmata in serata. I calciatori fanno rientro a casa per rispettare l'isolamento e la dirigenza azzurra mette al corrente della situazione Federcalcio e Serie A, ma la Lega è irremovibile: dopo aver preso visione di tutti i documenti inviati dalle ASL al Napoli, conferma lo svolgimento della partita per domenica sera alle 20:45."
From google translate I read
"In the meantime, the correspondence between Napoli and the two ASLs involved in the story continues, another delicate aspect of the investigation. Napoli asks for clarification in the face of the indications provided by the ASL in the various communications and even involves the Campania Region: between an email and the other the central role of the protocol is lost and at 18:25, through the intervention of the deputy head cabinet of the Region, home isolation is sanctioned for all players and staff members. For Napoli it is obviously a ban and skips the departure for Turin, scheduled for the evening. The players return home to respect the isolation and the Azzurri management informs the Federcalcio and Serie A situation, but the League is adamant: after having read all the documents sent by the ASL to Naples, it confirms the progress of the match for Sunday evening at 8.45pm."

So, Napoli probably didn't apply correctly covid protocols but it's very clear to me that they were stopped before leaving for Turin by health officials.


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