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Quote from: Juggy777 on October 10, 2020, 12:16:34 AM

@coinlocket$ first of all thanks for this detailed explanation, because like others I too was under the impression that Napoli deserved some sympathy, and that the match should be rescheduled as it was unfair to directly loose 3 - 0. However after reading the detailed explanation posted by you, now it totally makes sense that there should be no rescheduling done, but sadly from the reports that I’m reading now they’re claiming that the match will be rescheduled, and only one point will be deducted for Napoli.

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https://www.football-italia.net/160263/juve-napoli-rescheduled-point-deduction-azzurri

Yes and that's is why I wrote the "same typical joke from Italy".
Justice here in Italy its a joke.

They have a rule and instead of applying it they will end with change it.

And yes is a big deal otherwise another team will use this sabotage to skip games, Napoli wasn't with their best player (out for injury and 2 players out for COVID) or teams will do the same when a key player will miss.

Why Milan is playing games without 2 players with the COVID and Napoli can skip games?
Why PSG was playing without 7, Liverpool without 3 and we all use the UEFA protocol?

Typical Italian thing.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 09, 2020, 04:58:10 PM

Quote from: Karartma1 on October 09, 2020, 03:44:01 AM

So basically what happened is that the Italian Health authorities denied Napoli the possibility to play the game. This created a sort of law conundrum because, of course, what's being said by health officials prevails on Italian Serie A decisions.
Therefore the game will be postponed to January 13th and Napoli will get some sort of penalty because they did not follow covid-19 health protocols.
No 3-0, which is good.

Wrong.
The Italian Health authorities didn't deny Napoli the possibility to play the game. It is fake news.
Napoli chose to not play the game against the COVID protocol. (for the protocol they had to play)
The Italian Health authority said to Napoli "we suggest not play the game", they didn't say "you must no play".

The question that nobody is asking is WHY they did it.
The answer to this question should be this one, Napoli violated the protocol after a player has been found positive so the Italian Health authority has to spoken.
If Napoli didn't violate the protocol the Italian Health authority had to stay silent since they had a protocol from the government.

So in the end.

Napoli probably violated the COVID protocol.
Napoli violated the FIGC regulation without going into the game.
Juventus violated nothing and they did things as they must do.

The regulation is a 3-0 and 1 point of penalty for Napoli.
If they will not give 3-0 they need to change the Italian regulation for football.

Also last but more important if they prove (and it seems clear) Napoli violated the COVID protocol and infected someone, (a player of young team played the same day while Napoli chosen to no leave for Turin) they risk a relegation in Serie B.

@coinlocket$ first of all thanks for this detailed explanation, because like others I too was under the impression that Napoli deserved some sympathy, and that the match should be rescheduled as it was unfair to directly loose 3 - 0. However after reading the detailed explanation posted by you, now it totally makes sense that there should be no rescheduling done, but sadly from the reports that I’m reading now they’re claiming that the match will be rescheduled, and only one point will be deducted for Napoli.

Source:

https://www.football-italia.net/160263/juve-napoli-rescheduled-point-deduction-azzurri

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Quote from: Karartma1 on October 09, 2020, 03:44:01 AM

So basically what happened is that the Italian Health authorities denied Napoli the possibility to play the game. This created a sort of law conundrum because, of course, what's being said by health officials prevails on Italian Serie A decisions.
Therefore the game will be postponed to January 13th and Napoli will get some sort of penalty because they did not follow covid-19 health protocols.
No 3-0, which is good.

Wrong.
The Italian Health authorities didn't deny Napoli the possibility to play the game. It is fake news.
Napoli chose to not play the game against the COVID protocol. (for the protocol they had to play)
The Italian Health authority said to Napoli "we suggest not play the game", they didn't say "you must no play".

The question that nobody is asking is WHY they did it.
The answer to this question should be this one, Napoli violated the protocol after a player has been found positive so the Italian Health authority has to spoken.
If Napoli didn't violate the protocol the Italian Health authority had to stay silent since they had a protocol from the government.

So in the end.

Napoli probably violated the COVID protocol.
Napoli violated the FIGC regulation without going into the game.
Juventus violated nothing and they did things as they must do.

The regulation is a 3-0 and 1 point of penalty for Napoli.
If they will not give 3-0 they need to change the Italian regulation for football.

Also last but more important if they prove (and it seems clear) Napoli violated the COVID protocol and infected someone, (a player of young team played the same day while Napoli chosen to no leave for Turin) they risk a relegation in Serie B.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on October 09, 2020, 03:44:01 AM

So basically what happened is that the Italian Health authorities denied Napoli the possibility to play the game. This created a sort of law conundrum because, of course, what's being said by health officials prevails on Italian Serie A decisions.
Therefore the game will be postponed to January 13th and Napoli will get some sort of penalty because they did not follow covid-19 health protocols.
No 3-0, which is good.

Seems logic if they can prove that Napoli violated the covid-19 health protocol?
coinlocket$ said that the final decision will be taken next week so let's wait and see, although I prefer to see them facing each other and may the best win.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 08, 2020, 04:15:03 PM

The decision for the game Juventus-Napoli has been delayed to next week, typical Italian thing.

The rule was clear if Napoli wasn't on the game the result must be 3-0 for the opponent and 1 point of penalization.

Rumors are now to "play the game and take 1 point of penalty".

What a shame typical Italian do whatever you want "thing".

So basically what happened is that the Italian Health authorities denied Napoli the possibility to play the game. This created a sort of law conundrum because, of course, what's being said by health officials prevails on Italian Serie A decisions.
Therefore the game will be postponed to January 13th and Napoli will get some sort of penalty because they did not follow covid-19 health protocols.
No 3-0, which is good.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 08, 2020, 02:17:07 PM

More players of Inter has been found positive for COVID, they are now 4.

Source: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/inter/2020/10/08-74699056/inter_nainggolan_e_gagliardini_positivi_al_coronavirus/

It is bad not only in Serie A but also in other big leagues. I believe that the short summer break after the last season ending plays role to spread the virus to football players. Players after the last crazy season jumped directly to beaches and enjoyed their short summer vacations. Then they came back to clubs, they already exposed with the virus and spred it around clubs.

With fast reactions and quick tests, I hope the new wave will be controlled soon. If not, leagues will be postponed unfortunately.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 08, 2020, 02:17:07 PM

More players of Inter has been found positive for COVID, they are now 4.

Source: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/inter/2020/10/08-74699056/inter_nainggolan_e_gagliardini_positivi_al_coronavirus/

This is bad news for Inter Milan fans, with a total of 4 players who have tested positive for COVID-19, this makes Inter Milan have to play
without these 4 players for the next few weeks. Hopefully the number of people who have tested positive for COVID-19 at Inter Milan does
not increase again, and the 4 players can recover soon. Because Inter Milan is a potential candidate for Serie A champion for this season,
so they cannot lose many players due to COVID-19.

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The decision for the game Juventus-Napoli has been delayed to next week, typical Italian thing.

The rule was clear if Napoli wasn't on the game the result must be 3-0 for the opponent and 1 point of penalization.

Rumors are now to "play the game and take 1 point of penalty".

What a shame typical Italian do whatever you want "thing".

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Inter looks like a team made on a manager, maybe years are not on the side of the team, a lot of players have been in football for a long time, but on paper Inter sounds powerful, great job for Inter management, how much will they be able to do in the Champions League?

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More players of Inter has been found positive for COVID, they are now 4.

Source: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/inter/2020/10/08-74699056/inter_nainggolan_e_gagliardini_positivi_al_coronavirus/

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on October 07, 2020, 07:59:37 PM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 07, 2020, 05:24:00 PM

So far we have 0 positive in Juventus so what the other user was posting was a fake news.

It is good news that no players positive in Juventus. I think Juventus can make their player discipline to avoid Covid-19. In this matter, I assume the club management and the coach have a big role to remind or warn their players to live more safely. Thank god that those are just fake news, I hope the people who make fake news can be investigated and jailed. This must never happen anymore because it is related to many parties (personal life, family, clubs, and the entire football business).

A lot of fake news because they want to increase traffic only, so they make news about covid in juventus that makes no sense if not from a valid source.

Juventus must have implemented a stricter system than before Pirlo, of course, as a coach would be very reminded to maintain a lifestyle and now Italy's situation has started to improve.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 08, 2020, 04:27:45 AM

Quote from: Karartma1 on October 08, 2020, 03:27:02 AM

It looks like it will be increasingly hard to maintain a balance between health and safety for both players and staff and the obvious money business. I am a bit pessimistic that serie a will reach the end if covid will be bad again.

Probably yes but actually the situation in Italy is better than UK France and Spain.

Right, but that does not mean much. You can clearly see that protocols are not very clear and if they don't find a common ground between the health officials and the football federation many more games will probably suffer the same fate.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 07, 2020, 05:24:00 PM

Players are tested every 4 days in Italy and before every match.
So far we have 0 positive in Juventus so what the other user was posting was a fake news.

Anyway today they found 2 positives in Inter.

lol rotfl ahahahah
I missed fake news of this kind, I really have to laugh
what is the advantage of spreading this fake news? clickbait?

sometimes I don't understand people's idiocy, they are really stupid...

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Quote from: Karartma1 on October 08, 2020, 03:27:02 AM

It looks like it will be increasingly hard to maintain a balance between health and safety for both players and staff and the obvious money business. I am a bit pessimistic that serie a will reach the end if covid will be bad again.

Probably yes but actually the situation in Italy is better than UK France and Spain.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 07, 2020, 05:24:00 PM

Quote from: Naida_BR on October 07, 2020, 01:18:52 PM

We have seen many times that test turn from negative positive after some days.
Juventus is playing in European games so as Napoli so it is a very sensitive thing and it should be treated carefully.
I believe that Juventus' players should make tests again in order to be sure that they are not infected.

Players are tested every 4 days in Italy and before every match.
So far we have 0 positive in Juventus so what the other user was posting was a fake news.

Anyway today they found 2 positives in Inter.

It looks like it will be increasingly hard to maintain a balance between health and safety for both players and staff and the obvious money business. I am a bit pessimistic that serie a will reach the end if covid will be bad again.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 07, 2020, 05:24:00 PM

So far we have 0 positive in Juventus so what the other user was posting was a fake news.

It is good news that no players positive in Juventus. I think Juventus can make their player discipline to avoid Covid-19. In this matter, I assume the club management and the coach have a big role to remind or warn their players to live more safely. Thank god that those are just fake news, I hope the people who make fake news can be investigated and jailed. This must never happen anymore because it is related to many parties (personal life, family, clubs, and the entire football business).

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 07, 2020, 01:18:52 PM

We have seen many times that test turn from negative positive after some days.
Juventus is playing in European games so as Napoli so it is a very sensitive thing and it should be treated carefully.
I believe that Juventus' players should make tests again in order to be sure that they are not infected.

Players are tested every 4 days in Italy and before every match.
So far we have 0 positive in Juventus so what the other user was posting was a fake news.

Anyway today they found 2 positives in Inter.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 06, 2020, 05:50:34 PM

Quote from: kassex on October 06, 2020, 03:06:50 PM

The game was probably postponed. Some Juventus players had positive tests, so I think they will play in the future.

This is so wrong.
No players were or are positive for Juventus.

2 players were positive for Napoli, they did another test today and no more positive players has been found.
They had a protocol to follow and they didn't.

They think they are special but Milan, Liverpool, Atalanta, PSG played and plays with positive why they cannot?

We have seen many times that test turn from negative positive after some days.
Juventus is playing in European games so as Napoli so it is a very sensitive thing and it should be treated carefully.
I believe that Juventus' players should make tests again in order to be sure that they are not infected.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 07, 2020, 04:06:36 AM

Quote from: Karartma1 on October 07, 2020, 03:49:47 AM

Quote from: hd49728 on October 05, 2020, 10:11:17 PM

Federico Chiesa is very close to sign a contract with Juventus (a 2 year loan contract with Juvetus). The deal will be made if Fiorentina can expand the current contract between them and Chiesa, that will be expired after the 2 year loan contract ends. It means La Viola don't want to lose Chiesa for free after the loan contract ends as well as their current contract with the player finishes at the same time.

https://www.juvefc.com/one-thing-holding-up-federico-chiesa-move-to-juventus/

It was interesting to watch the reaction from Fiorentina supporters: poor guy this Federico Chiesa, he got treated like a traitor only because he's looking forward to boost is career. It's very sad to recognize how stupid football supporters can possibly be.

That is common thing in Italy.Supporters there will never forgive their lead player if he decides to go to another team and there are a lot of cases like this in Italy.The only player they respect is Francesco Totti who spent all his career in the Roma team of Serie A and people still love him today while his substitute which was going to be Daniele De Rossi left Roma and people still haven’t forgive him.

True, but this definitely contributes to create a very toxic environment for such young talented players. Italian supporters (ultras/hooligans) are completely nuts when it comes to this.
As you said only few players have been respected for having played basically their whole career with their respective teams: I personally recall Totti, Maldini and Del Piero.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on October 07, 2020, 03:49:47 AM

Quote from: hd49728 on October 05, 2020, 10:11:17 PM

Federico Chiesa is very close to sign a contract with Juventus (a 2 year loan contract with Juvetus). The deal will be made if Fiorentina can expand the current contract between them and Chiesa, that will be expired after the 2 year loan contract ends. It means La Viola don't want to lose Chiesa for free after the loan contract ends as well as their current contract with the player finishes at the same time.

https://www.juvefc.com/one-thing-holding-up-federico-chiesa-move-to-juventus/

It was interesting to watch the reaction from Fiorentina supporters: poor guy this Federico Chiesa, he got treated like a traitor only because he's looking forward to boost is career. It's very sad to recognize how stupid football supporters can possibly be.

That is common thing in Italy.Supporters there will never forgive their lead player if he decides to go to another team and there are a lot of cases like this in Italy.The only player they respect is Francesco Totti who spent all his career in the Roma team of Serie A and people still love him today while his substitute which was going to be Daniele De Rossi left Roma and people still haven’t forgive him.

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