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Quote from: hahay on September 04, 2021, 03:48:44 AM

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Atalanta next match which is against Fiorentina will be an interesting match to watch. Atalanta is a strong team, although, they drew their last match against Bologna. Atalanta had many opportunities of scoring in the game, but couldn't. I think they will try to win against Fiorentina, but Fiorentina don't seem to a weak team, they won their last match. The match will be tough for Atalanta to win, or they may end up having another draw.

While Napoli will be facing Juventus next week. Many people thinks Napoli will probably have an easy winning against Juventus. But to me, Juventus is still a good club with a strong squad despite the absence of Ronaldo.

Atalanta remains the favorite in this match and I personally am still not sure Atalanta will win here, even though Atalanta is playing at home but it seems that this season Atalanta is not as good as the previous season. Vice versa, I feel Fiorentina already have an improvement that at least it will be good to get points in this away game even though it's only 1 point still, going home with points is something good for Fiorentina. About Napoli indeed, Juventus will not be defeated as easily as imagined but with a big effort at least Napoli have a better chance to get full points in this match.

mediocre teams , you cant expect much for both , but to be honest atlanta doing great job in the last few seasons .. i wouldnt surprised if they win a trophy this season or after it , amazing master plan applied by gasperini , everyone respecting him and feel sorry for atalanta when they nearly get through the champions league semifinal.

ups and down but so far thats still a not bad start to get 1 win 1 draw. still a lot of room to improve tho.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 04, 2021, 04:06:41 AM

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Atalanta next match which is against Fiorentina will be an interesting match to watch. Atalanta is a strong team, although, they drew their last match against Bologna. Atalanta had many opportunities of scoring in the game, but couldn't. I think they will try to win against Fiorentina, but Fiorentina don't seem to a weak team, they won their last match. The match will be tough for Atalanta to win, or they may end up having another draw.

While Napoli will be facing Juventus next week. Many people thinks Napoli will probably have an easy winning against Juventus. But to me, Juventus is still a good club with a strong squad despite the absence of Ronaldo.

Atalanta could have won their game against Bologna but they were very bad at finishing. Only 3 of their 21 shots were on target and it ended 0-0. And they beat Torino 2-1 in their first game. Atalanta still seem to be a strong team. They had a wonderful season and they may have another one also. I don't expect Fiorentina to get even one point here. I think that Atalanta will win this game by at least 2 goals.

I haven't checked Atalanta's recent stats now, but I am sure it must be some time ago that they didn't score a goal in a game. Their finishing did suck this time indeed. It is a relatively slow start for them into this season. It's usually almost always goal festivals with Atalanta.

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Quote from: blackened515 on September 04, 2021, 01:34:27 AM

Atalanta next match which is against Fiorentina will be an interesting match to watch. Atalanta is a strong team, although, they drew their last match against Bologna. Atalanta had many opportunities of scoring in the game, but couldn't. I think they will try to win against Fiorentina, but Fiorentina don't seem to a weak team, they won their last match. The match will be tough for Atalanta to win, or they may end up having another draw.

While Napoli will be facing Juventus next week. Many people thinks Napoli will probably have an easy winning against Juventus. But to me, Juventus is still a good club with a strong squad despite the absence of Ronaldo.

Atalanta could have won their game against Bologna but they were very bad at finishing. Only 3 of their 21 shots were on target and it ended 0-0. And they beat Torino 2-1 in their first game. Atalanta still seem to be a strong team. They had a wonderful season and they may have another one also. I don't expect Fiorentina to get even one point here. I think that Atalanta will win this game by at least 2 goals.

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Quote from: blackened515 on September 04, 2021, 01:34:27 AM

Atalanta next match which is against Fiorentina will be an interesting match to watch. Atalanta is a strong team, although, they drew their last match against Bologna. Atalanta had many opportunities of scoring in the game, but couldn't. I think they will try to win against Fiorentina, but Fiorentina don't seem to a weak team, they won their last match. The match will be tough for Atalanta to win, or they may end up having another draw.

While Napoli will be facing Juventus next week. Many people thinks Napoli will probably have an easy winning against Juventus. But to me, Juventus is still a good club with a strong squad despite the absence of Ronaldo.

Atalanta remains the favorite in this match and I personally am still not sure Atalanta will win here, even though Atalanta is playing at home but it seems that this season Atalanta is not as good as the previous season. Vice versa, I feel Fiorentina already have an improvement that at least it will be good to get points in this away game even though it's only 1 point still, going home with points is something good for Fiorentina. About Napoli indeed, Juventus will not be defeated as easily as imagined but with a big effort at least Napoli have a better chance to get full points in this match.

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Atalanta next match which is against Fiorentina will be an interesting match to watch. Atalanta is a strong team, although, they drew their last match against Bologna. Atalanta had many opportunities of scoring in the game, but couldn't. I think they will try to win against Fiorentina, but Fiorentina don't seem to a weak team, they won their last match. The match will be tough for Atalanta to win, or they may end up having another draw.

While Napoli will be facing Juventus next week. Many people thinks Napoli will probably have an easy winning against Juventus. But to me, Juventus is still a good club with a strong squad despite the absence of Ronaldo.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 03, 2021, 06:51:03 PM

It's not even worth comparing the situation at Arsenal and Juventus. We can say that Juventus only relatively failed last season, still winning the national cup and still making it to the Champions League. Until last season, the situation for Juventus was developing quite favorably and winning the title of national champion did not pose any special problems, which is radically different from the situation with Arsenal, where the championship in recent years looks like an unthinkable dream. The only problem was to make a step on the international stage and win the title of the winner of the Champions League. But unfortunately, this did not happen and even there was a degradation at the domestic level and Juventus could not win the championship. In any case, the season has just begun and there is a lot of time to fix the situation.

Arsenal are terrible this year and are not comparable to Juventus. Juventus will get out of the mini crisis soon after the FIFA days. They have better quality than Arsenal and if they won't win Scudetto, they won't end at bottom of table like Arsenal.

With Arsenal, to get out of the bottom table in Premier League is a challenge for them. They need to work very hard and unite their resources to achieve it.

Juventus will get well soon with Max and I think the shock from Ronaldo transfer will be resolved after a few matches. They are the beast in Italy before Ronaldo joined them so they will get fine after the leave of Ronaldo.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 03, 2021, 10:02:41 PM

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If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.

I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

Ronaldo is a player whose presence in a team alone,produces fear in the mind of their opponents.His impact on the field cannot be over emphasised,it is obvious that Juventus are losing simply because Ronaldo is no longer in the team,and that alone has weaken the moral of other team mates who have been used to Ronaldo and his style of play.They will continue to miss him untill they will be able to replace him with someone that is very good as well.

@Lordhermes the fault lies on Juventus Management because they made the entire team about Ronaldo, don’t we all remember how Dybala was shunned and Ronaldo was made the key. Also it may take them few moee matches but I expect them to bounce back soon, because Allegri knows this squad, and I’m sure he’ll come up with some tactical changes to get them on the winning track again.

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/juventus-confirm-paulo-dybala-decision-21461850 (Allegri was the coach then)

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Quote from: Roidz on September 03, 2021, 02:16:46 PM

Quote from: skarais on September 03, 2021, 12:39:53 PM

If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.

I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

Ronaldo is a player whose presence in a team alone,produces fear in the mind of their opponents.His impact on the field cannot be over emphasised,it is obvious that Juventus are losing simply because Ronaldo is no longer in the team,and that alone has weaken the moral of other team mates who have been used to Ronaldo and his style of play.They will continue to miss him untill they will be able to replace him with someone that is very good as well.

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Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.

If it was based earlier then I also with the Juventus squad still haven't found their true self, but remember Napoli are not an opponent to be underestimated this will be the main focus for Allegri who must win this match otherwise it will be more difficult after this against Milan after Naples.
Their points will be behind if they lose consecutively then it will be the same as Arsenal.
UCL competition is very tight. Juventus have to go through a lot of challenges from other European teams that are far more powerful than Juve's game, so this must solve problems in the domestic league before the UCL.

It's not even worth comparing the situation at Arsenal and Juventus. We can say that Juventus only relatively failed last season, still winning the national cup and still making it to the Champions League. Until last season, the situation for Juventus was developing quite favorably and winning the title of national champion did not pose any special problems, which is radically different from the situation with Arsenal, where the championship in recent years looks like an unthinkable dream. The only problem was to make a step on the international stage and win the title of the winner of the Champions League. But unfortunately, this did not happen and even there was a degradation at the domestic level and Juventus could not win the championship. In any case, the season has just begun and there is a lot of time to fix the situation.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 02, 2021, 06:59:07 PM

I think that Juventus have a really low chance against Napoli next week. Because their morale is not that good after the last result against Empoli. And they have missing players also. So, Napoli can take advantage of this situation home and get even a win.

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I think that Juventus have a really low chance against Napoli next week. Because their morale is not that good after the last result against Empoli. And they have missing players also. So, Napoli can take advantage of this situation home and get even a win.

The defeat of Empoli was the first defeat of Juventus after Ronaldo left, and of course it was quite surprising because Empoli is a promotion team and it is clear that this defeat will make Juventus mentality decrease slightly when they face Napoli, especially now Napoli are in a fairly positive trend after successfully defeating genoa in the previous match and making them managed to get 6 points from 2 wins.
I think Juventus will have a hard time against Napoli and it could be their secound defeat at the start of the season.

I believe that Napoli could win and Juventus could still be decent in the future, I am not saying that Juventus is a great team but they are not as bad as people think they are right now. Too many people saw just 2 games and reacted accordingly, or even if they lose to Napoli that is 3 games, we should not judge a team by just 3 game result because that means nothing in the end.

Obviously they are not doing good that's true, but there are levels of not being good, they used to 9/10 and now they are 6.5/10 but people act like they are 4/10, that's all I wanted to say, this means they did get worse and they are not great just like you guys are saying, but I am just saying they are a bit better than that too. Do not act as if we should be forgetting how Juventus won so many league titles, they didn't had Ronaldo back then and I am sure they will be fine without him now as well.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on September 03, 2021, 03:04:45 PM

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Quote from: skarais on September 03, 2021, 12:39:53 PM

If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.

I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

I heard Massimo Allegri very angry with Juventus management because sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Manchester United, I think they not discussing between Allegri and Juventus team management about Cristiano Ronaldo transfer. Now Juventus success get back Moise Kean from Everton and become tandem for Dybala or Alvaro Morata, but most disappointed why Juventus left Ronaldo because they still need him exactly one years later.

Well Allegri benched Ronaldo in the first game against Udinese and that must have made Ronaldo really angry because as you all know Ronaldo likes to play the entire match. Kean isnt a good substitute for Ronaldo not even close. They sold Ronaldo because they dont want to pay big salaries for him.

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Quote from: Roidz on September 03, 2021, 02:16:46 PM

Quote from: skarais on September 03, 2021, 12:39:53 PM

If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.

I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

I heard Massimo Allegri very angry with Juventus management because sell Cristiano Ronaldo to Manchester United, I think they not discussing between Allegri and Juventus team management about Cristiano Ronaldo transfer. Now Juventus success get back Moise Kean from Everton and become tandem for Dybala or Alvaro Morata, but most disappointed why Juventus left Ronaldo because they still need him exactly one years later.

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Quote from: skarais on September 03, 2021, 12:39:53 PM

If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.

I don't think Juventus can forget Ronaldo at this time and it was seen when Juventus was defeated by a team that in terms of squad quality is far below Juventus, if you watch the match, you will definitely see if the Juventus striker was not able to overcome the strong defense of Empoli, even in that match Federico Chiesa and Paulo Dybala played quite well, but they were not able to finish the chances they had to score in that match.

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Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.

If it was based earlier then I also with the Juventus squad still haven't found their true self, but remember Napoli are not an opponent to be underestimated this will be the main focus for Allegri who must win this match otherwise it will be more difficult after this against Milan after Naples.
Their points will be behind if they lose consecutively then it will be the same as Arsenal.

UCL competition is very tight. Juventus have to go through a lot of challenges from other European teams that are far more powerful than Juve's game, so this must solve problems in the domestic league before the UCL.

Actually Juventus is not alone, other European teams have experienced the same thing except teams from the EPL and Ligue 1
I agree with you, domestic problem must be resolved as soon as possible to restore the players' confidence so that this condition does not continue in the next Juventus match in the UCL. Massimiliano Allegri has a chance in the next 2 games to fix it to prove his capacity as a coach.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on September 03, 2021, 01:18:14 PM

Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.

If it was based earlier then I also with the Juventus squad still haven't found their true self, but remember Napoli are not an opponent to be underestimated this will be the main focus for Allegri who must win this match otherwise it will be more difficult after this against Milan after Naples.
Their points will be behind if they lose consecutively then it will be the same as Arsenal.

UCL competition is very tight. Juventus have to go through a lot of challenges from other European teams that are far more powerful than Juve's game, so this must solve problems in the domestic league before the UCL.

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This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.

Juventus is a strong team even though this season they are no longer reinforced by Ronaldo. There is no doubt to say that Juventus will bounce back soon after their previous two poor results. It's still very quick to say that they are a weak team because the league is still very long. UCL and Serie A should be the two competitions they focus on, despite bad results in Serie A but Juventus can still win UCL matches in my opinion.

They say Juventus is now a weak team of course there is a reason just look at last season how they fought for the UCL ticket even though Ronaldo was there
This season they started with a bad result only getting 1 point and there is no attempt to change the composition of the Juventus players, so nothing can be expected in the current situation maybe they will repeat the same result as last season.

Juventus are actually not a weak team. They still have a very good squad and manager. They were already becoming champions before Ronaldo joined the team. This proves that they are capable of winning the title actually. But they are not in a good mood lately. It caused them to lose to Empoli. If they start gathering up as soon as possible, they can start a good win streak quickly. But they can lose the Napoli game if they don't get prepared really well.

Yes I know Juventus in the past but my judgment is based on current conditions we haven't seen the real Juventus, the current squad is like a substitute
I compare Juventus conditions to Arsenal but Juventus are a little bit better. Next play away against Napoli, I doubt Juventus get the points.

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This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.

Juventus is a strong team even though this season they are no longer reinforced by Ronaldo. There is no doubt to say that Juventus will bounce back soon after their previous two poor results. It's still very quick to say that they are a weak team because the league is still very long. UCL and Serie A should be the two competitions they focus on, despite bad results in Serie A but Juventus can still win UCL matches in my opinion.

They say Juventus is now a weak team of course there is a reason just look at last season how they fought for the UCL ticket even though Ronaldo was there
This season they started with a bad result only getting 1 point and there is no attempt to change the composition of the Juventus players, so nothing can be expected in the current situation maybe they will repeat the same result as last season.

Juventus are actually not a weak team. They still have a very good squad and manager. They were already becoming champions before Ronaldo joined the team. This proves that they are capable of winning the title actually. But they are not in a good mood lately. It caused them to lose to Empoli. If they start gathering up as soon as possible, they can start a good win streak quickly. But they can lose the Napoli game if they don't get prepared really well.

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Quote from: MonaLeeTracy on September 03, 2021, 10:55:29 AM

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This time Juvetus and Inter Milan will be very different, they always try with the points they get when UCL is left it will focus on the main league.

Juventus is a strong team even though this season they are no longer reinforced by Ronaldo. There is no doubt to say that Juventus will bounce back soon after their previous two poor results. It's still very quick to say that they are a weak team because the league is still very long. UCL and Serie A should be the two competitions they focus on, despite bad results in Serie A but Juventus can still win UCL matches in my opinion.

They say Juventus is now a weak team of course there is a reason just look at last season how they fought for the UCL ticket even though Ronaldo was there
This season they started with a bad result only getting 1 point and there is no attempt to change the composition of the Juventus players, so nothing can be expected in the current situation maybe they will repeat the same result as last season.

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Quote from: masulum on September 03, 2021, 10:38:39 AM

Allegri is a genius coach, he can turn a Milan full of old players into Serie A champions, while the current Juventus players, are still much better with Milan's conditions at that time. So, I think, even without Ronaldo, and Pogba's plan to Juventus didn't happen, with Allegri's ability as a coach, I think they still deserve to be favorites to win. It is true that it will be more difficult, but at least Juventus still benefits from the condition of their competitors such as Inter, Milan, Lazio which are in less than optimal conditions as well. Against Napoli, because this is a game that the team need to adapt without Ronaldo, holding Napoli with draw is not bad result IMO.

If Juventus' poor performance in the last 2 match was caused by losing Ronaldo, then Juventus really made a big mistake. It is never good to always depend on one player even if it is a star player. Actually, Juventus still has quite a lot of reliable players in every game, but it seems that some players have lost their enthusiasm whether it's because of Ronaldo or other reasons. Allegri will be responsible for maximizing the potential of his players in the games to come, they will soon get up and get back on the winning track.

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