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Quote from: TelolettOm on August 06, 2024, 06:29:02 PM

Well, indeed, Roma is still watching and expecting to bid more top players to enhance their squad.

Latest rumors:
1. Federico Chiesa
He is a good Juventus Left Winger, ready to join Roma, negotiations are working on, for around 20-25 million euros, worth it?
Source: Federico Chiesa opens to Roma transfer

It is very surprising that Federico Chiesa, whose performance was quite consistent last season with Juventus and was the main choice for the Italian national team at Euro 2024, was not included in Thiago Motta's game scheme and was on the list of players to be sold.
In season 2023/24, Federico Chiesa played 33 matches and absent only 5 matches in Serie A but he was success scoring 9 goals and made 2 assists but arriving Thiago Motta make him loss his position as regular players and including in the players list name must to sell.

Juventus removed Federico Chiesa's jersey from their official store and this increasingly indicates that next season he will have to be sold, AS Roma become candidate team for signing him but still negotiate with fees transfer. I don't think difficult for AS Roma because Juventus on huge pressure position after removing Federico Chiesa from main squad and his transfer market values get increasing drastically. I believe his potential with AS Roma for next season and will reach top performance.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on August 06, 2024, 10:16:43 PM

Juventus, Roma, and Ac Milan are not happy with the fact that the Inter Milan team became suddenly stronger and formidable as a team last two seasons than were, so there's a need for these teams to strengthen their squad, and for the Inter Milan side, it is not necessary that they sign in a number of new into the team when there is no need for that, However, I'm eagerly awaiting to see a more competitive Serie A league this season between Inter Milan side, Juventus, AC Milan, and As Roma way more interesting than how last season were.

Inter Milan did not suddenly become stronger but in the last decade, they are the most competitive club in Serie A after Juventus. They won Scudetto two times in the last four seasons and it shows their strength. With decision to keep Simeone Inzaghi as their head coach, Inter Milan will aim at another successful season in Serie A and better performance in Champions League like a second Champions League final match with this coach.

Juventus and AC Milan won't feel happy if they are unable to compete with Inter Milan and they will try to challenge Inter Milan more in this season. AS Roma shows some signals of more activities on transfer market but it's big challenge for a young coach like De Rossi to lead Roma to Scudetto in his second season with them.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on August 06, 2024, 08:51:37 PM

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Compared to a team like Juventus, I think you are right and AC Milan is a good team in the Serie A. They were always in the good form. However, the fact about AC Milan and some other teams in the Serie A is they are still not close to Inter Milan and during the last two years, they were far better than other teams. At the same time, they also hired some players to be better performers than last season which means they aim for the Champions League.

I agree with you. So far I think Inter Milan will still dominate Serie A this season. I see AC Milan and Juventus have made several important player transfers but Inter Milan have not made any significant transfers. Davide Frattesi is Inter's most expensive purchase this season with a value of €29 million. Overall Juventus, AC Milan and AS Roma will be able to perform well this season but I doubt if they will be able to compete with Inter Milan. But I hope Serie A can be more competitive because it seems like it will be boring if only one team dominates the league.

Juventus, Roma, and Ac Milan are not happy with the fact that the Inter Milan team became suddenly stronger and formidable as a team last two seasons than were, so there's a need for these teams to strengthen their squad, and for the Inter Milan side, it is not necessary that they sign in a number of new into the team when there is no need for that, However, I'm eagerly awaiting to see a more competitive Serie A league this season between Inter Milan side, Juventus, AC Milan, and As Roma way more interesting than how last season were.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 06, 2024, 05:35:57 PM

Compared to a team like Juventus, I think you are right and AC Milan is a good team in the Serie A. They were always in the good form. However, the fact about AC Milan and some other teams in the Serie A is they are still not close to Inter Milan and during the last two years, they were far better than other teams. At the same time, they also hired some players to be better performers than last season which means they aim for the Champions League.

I agree with you. So far I think Inter Milan will still dominate Serie A this season. I see AC Milan and Juventus have made several important player transfers but Inter Milan have not made any significant transfers. Davide Frattesi is Inter's most expensive purchase this season with a value of €29 million. Overall Juventus, AC Milan and AS Roma will be able to perform well this season but I doubt if they will be able to compete with Inter Milan. But I hope Serie A can be more competitive because it seems like it will be boring if only one team dominates the league.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on August 06, 2024, 06:29:02 PM

Well, indeed, Roma is still watching and expecting to bid more top players to enhance their squad.

Latest rumors:
1. Federico Chiesa
He is a good Juventus Left Winger, ready to join Roma, negotiations are working on, for around 20-25 million euros, worth it?
Source: Federico Chiesa opens to Roma transfer

Is there any big change in Roma financially like signing with a new good sponsor so they now have better finance and transfer budget?

I am not really believing in this rumor that Roma are ready to spend 20 - 25M Euros for Chiesa. It's big money for Roma to purchase any player, and Chiesa has bad injury record that is a red flag for Roma to spend big money.

Chiesea used to be a very promising attacking player and contributed a lot to Euro 2020 title for Italy some injuries in recent years destroy his career.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on August 06, 2024, 02:56:28 AM

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Bremer is indeed one of the best defenders that Juventus has. And Bremer was actually the one who could be relied on the most last season to strengthen Juventus' defense. So I think Juventus should be happy because Bremer is not interested in moving to another team. And with his new five-year contract, I think Bremer will also be more eager to become a stronger defender for Juventus. And actually Juventus should also appreciate the player because Bremer even rejected offers from MU and Liverpool. Bremer showed his loyalty to the club and the club welcomed him with a contract extension or a new contract which was also quite long until 2029.

The decision taken by Bremer brought good luck to Juventus because he can be said to be a defender who has contributed greatly, Thiaggo Motta is quite lucky because he has a defender who can be relied on because his talent is already visible and only needs more honing to mature it. with last season which Juventus could be said to be less good maybe in the coming season Juventus can be better in everything whether from the players or tactics applied by Thiaggo Motta.

that's right, it seems that the decision taken by Bremer is indeed worthy of appreciation because apart from his loyalty I think he wants to show that he wants to contribute more and be a big influence for Juventus in the future. Thiaggo Motta only needs to take good care of him and the same goes for other players so that Juventus has a strong game from its attack line or defense line.

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Quote from: bastisisca on August 06, 2024, 09:42:07 AM

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AC Milan so far can gets 2 wins and 1 draw from 3 pre season matches and this is impressive especially on the latest match that they can beat Real Madrid which we all know this team is champion league defending champion and i think Paulo Fonseca has give positive impact since first time to arrived this season and although Serie A hasn't starting yet but i am sure AC Milan will be much better under him
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Ladies and gentlemen, I am totally amazed by Milan's performances, I never expected this kind of performance.
I have to say that Fonseca is working well and I didn't expect these results, even if they are only friendly.
Well done, I'm happy for the Milan fans and not only that, we won't see a one-sided championship.

It's still a pre season games, and the first real test for Ac Milan has not yet come. I think the better if you're lowering your expectations to them. Im not saying Ac Milan was bad, but nothing to take from the Pre-season when they were against kids from the different clubs,

Fonsesca is still quite new in Ac Milan, and his real test is gonna start once Serie A will be starting soon.

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Quote from: mamesso on August 05, 2024, 02:05:13 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on August 04, 2024, 06:38:24 PM

- Signing Dovbyk and Soulé are Roma's top signings this time for the attacking lines
- Several Roma signings are also in the middle and back lineups, so they are indeed quite focused on increasing the team's strength even with a small budget.

Roma are still not satisfied with the players they have successfully brought in, the ambitious project built after De Rossi improved Roma quality will see a rapid increase in Roma performance this season. Roma are considering a new signing to strengthen their backline, now targeting Sergi Roberto on a free transfer. Having successfully addressed the shortcomings in the front line following the arrivals of Soule and Artem Dovbyk, Roma also managed to acquire Enzo Le Fee from Rennes which gives De Rossi even more options in midfield.

Well, indeed, Roma is still watching and expecting to bid more top players to enhance their squad.

Latest rumors:
1. Federico Chiesa
He is a good Juventus Left Winger, ready to join Roma, negotiations are working on, for around 20-25 million euros, worth it?
Source: Federico Chiesa opens to Roma transfer

2. Marc Pubill
Almería right-back, as the option of Torino's Raoul Bellanova that is too expensive for them. They will meet the agent this week.
Source: Roma to meet with Marc Pubill’s agent this week

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Quote from: wiss19 on August 06, 2024, 12:44:42 PM

AC Milan is always having good depth into Serie A as they are consistently doing good job in last few years even they are having some troubles on and off the field but still things are working as they are having good squad and performance with consistency their pre-season matches are showing how things will be in coming season because in last season they were able to have things well under control, but they were late so have to stay at the second spot.

Now in this season start is good, and they are also having few top players which are ready for having their best at this level Serie A is having good results in last few years even many clubs are suffering due to Covid era, but they are able to bring better results we can expect another good season at the top because few teams are trying their best for having top spots and quality performance.

AC Milan is a big team in Serie A but unfortunately their strength last season experienced a big decline in the Champions League because they were eliminated early so there must be better improvement efforts that they must make this season. If you look at their strengths, of course they have a lot of good quality players, but there are several obstacles, they have to change their game so it's not boring to watch.

The progress seen in pre-season matches is clearly due to the improvements made by their new coach. Paulo succeeded in carrying out his mission by bringing victory in the pre-season match. For this reason, there are many big targets that are desired by the big changes carried out by management, one of which is of course winning the Scudetto.

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Thus, it would be very wrong if Atalanta played optimally with full strength in such an unimportant friendly match. So,don't be surprised if Atalanta are beaten badly by Parma, after all the real match will happen in the new season later, and of course the results will be very different,and the results in friendly matches can in no way be used as an assessment of the quality of the team for next season.

Usually a mediocre team will play their best because it is their chance to play against a top team. But I think there are almost no top teams who play their best in friendly matches. There are many top teams who lost to weak teams in pre-season matches. Real Madrid also lost to AC Milan and Barcelona in friendlies. And you are right that Atalanta have an important match in the UEFA Super Cup next Thursday. So it is unlikely that Gasperini will play his first team and aim for victory. I think Gasperini is trying to use the match against Parma as a way to try out various tactics for the match against Real Madrid.

In terms of score, it is quite a striking score for a team that last season managed to become champions in the Europa League, but it should be remembered that this is a friendly match which does not affect them at all, in fact a defeat like this in a friendly match can make them more aware of what is still lacking in their game so that they can evaluate everything to be better in the official competition.

In general, we will always see that some teams do not play to their best strength, because their main focus is not to win but to test how strong their squad depth is. Atalanta are also aware that they will be in the Champions League next season, so they will prepare for it as best they can.

Taking friendly match too serious can lead to the injuries of players in that club and that will affect the team's performance when the real match starts. I think that is one of the reason that you see these big clubs reserving their top players when there is a friendly match because everyone is focused on the upcoming season.

Medicre clubs will always want to bring out the best in their performance because they also want to be happy or proud that they won a big team which is funny because the big teams never took the matches serious. Although, friendly matches are important for the coach to understand how to fix whatever loop holes in his team.

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Quote from: wiss19 on August 06, 2024, 12:44:42 PM

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AC Milan showed a great performance in the friendly matches. I, and probably you, did not expect to see such a good performance from them. Right now, it seems like Fonseca has managed to add good things to the team, but when the league starts, everything will start to become clearer. Because the teams will be on the field with their best squad to compete in the best way. For now, everything is going very well, but we should not forget that these matches were friendly matches. The opponents may not have taken it very seriously, the real struggle will be in the league.

AC Milan is always having good depth into Serie A as they are consistently doing good job in last few years even they are having some troubles on and off the field but still things are working as they are having good squad and performance with consistency their pre-season matches are showing how things will be in coming season because in last season they were able to have things well under control, but they were late so have to stay at the second spot.

Now in this season start is good, and they are also having few top players which are ready for having their best at this level Serie A is having good results in last few years even many clubs are suffering due to Covid era, but they are able to bring better results we can expect another good season at the top because few teams are trying their best for having top spots and quality performance.

Compared to a team like Juventus, I think you are right and AC Milan is a good team in the Serie A. They were always in the good form. However, the fact about AC Milan and some other teams in the Serie A is they are still not close to Inter Milan and during the last two years, they were far better than other teams. At the same time, they also hired some players to be better performers than last season which means they aim for the Champions League.

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In terms of score, it is quite a striking score for a team that last season managed to become champions in the Europa League, but it should be remembered that this is a friendly match which does not affect them at all, in fact a defeat like this in a friendly match can make them more aware of what is still lacking in their game so that they can evaluate everything to be better in the official competition.

In general, we will always see that some teams do not play to their best strength, because their main focus is not to win but to test how strong their squad depth is. Atalanta are also aware that they will be in the Champions League next season, so they will prepare for it as best they can.

If we look at some clubs you would notice that most of their main players who are more like guaranteed starters are not part of the main squad for the preseason this is because they don’t want to risk it by allowing them to play as most of them had participated in the international tournaments but aside that I noticed a culture of team like Manchester city and Real Madrid not usually playing their best players In the preseason friendlies and even if they do feature they don’t play to the level we all knew they can. This is clearly telling us that they don’t rate the friendlies and it shouldn’t be use to test a team performance level for the new season

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 06, 2024, 10:47:15 AM

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Thus, it would be very wrong if Atalanta played optimally with full strength in such an unimportant friendly match. So,don't be surprised if Atalanta are beaten badly by Parma, after all the real match will happen in the new season later, and of course the results will be very different,and the results in friendly matches can in no way be used as an assessment of the quality of the team for next season.

Usually a mediocre team will play their best because it is their chance to play against a top team. But I think there are almost no top teams who play their best in friendly matches. There are many top teams who lost to weak teams in pre-season matches. Real Madrid also lost to AC Milan and Barcelona in friendlies. And you are right that Atalanta have an important match in the UEFA Super Cup next Thursday. So it is unlikely that Gasperini will play his first team and aim for victory. I think Gasperini is trying to use the match against Parma as a way to try out various tactics for the match against Real Madrid.

In terms of score, it is quite a striking score for a team that last season managed to become champions in the Europa League, but it should be remembered that this is a friendly match which does not affect them at all, in fact a defeat like this in a friendly match can make them more aware of what is still lacking in their game so that they can evaluate everything to be better in the official competition.

In general, we will always see that some teams do not play to their best strength, because their main focus is not to win but to test how strong their squad depth is. Atalanta are also aware that they will be in the Champions League next season, so they will prepare for it as best they can.

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Quote from: bastisisca on August 06, 2024, 09:42:07 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, I am totally amazed by Milan's performances, I never expected this kind of performance.
I have to say that Fonseca is working well and I didn't expect these results, even if they are only friendly.
Well done, I'm happy for the Milan fans and not only that, we won't see a one-sided championship.

It is a good result at least to build on till the start of the season. Winning two big friendlies will be a motivation for the entire team and also a boost of confidence which is a good way to start the season although friendlies are not games most teams take seriously but a win is a win though and the most important thing is for it to build and uplift the team spirit.

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When it comes to friendly matches Real Madrid always look unserious amid the the weak teams bring them down which most of people will think that the team is not longer strong, and is not like that this is there nature of their playing if is not a really league, if not who is AC Milan to beat Madrid.

It’s not that the team don’t take friendlies seriously, and no one judges the performance of a team from preseason games. Alot of players are being tested and even academy graduates are being used so you shouldn’t expect a perfect performance from them but then a win in the pre season will help boost the confidence of a lot of players.

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Quote from: wiss19 on August 06, 2024, 12:44:42 PM

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AC Milan showed a great performance in the friendly matches. I, and probably you, did not expect to see such a good performance from them. Right now, it seems like Fonseca has managed to add good things to the team, but when the league starts, everything will start to become clearer. Because the teams will be on the field with their best squad to compete in the best way. For now, everything is going very well, but we should not forget that these matches were friendly matches. The opponents may not have taken it very seriously, the real struggle will be in the league.

AC Milan is always having good depth into Serie A as they are consistently doing good job in last few years even they are having some troubles on and off the field but still things are working as they are having good squad and performance with consistency their pre-season matches are showing how things will be in coming season because in last season they were able to have things well under control, but they were late so have to stay at the second spot.

Now in this season start is good, and they are also having few top players which are ready for having their best at this level Serie A is having good results in last few years even many clubs are suffering due to Covid era, but they are able to bring better results we can expect another good season at the top because few teams are trying their best for having top spots and quality performance.

If we look at Milan 4 friendly matches, we actually see an increase in performance that occurs from one match to another (LDWW) and they even managed to beat two big European teams, namely Manchester City and Madrid, but indeed the results of the friendly match should not make Fonsesca and the Milan squad proud, so that they close their eyes to several weaknesses that they should be able to correct before the real test they take on 17 August later, the friendly match must be utilized well by Fonsesca to continue evaluating every weakness that owned by Milan, so that when the league starts they will be very ready to face it.

We cannot use last season as a reference for assessing Milan performance next season, because currently Milan has started a new era with Fonsesca, yes, in the last few seasons they have been able to appear quite consistently as Scudetto contenders, but we might see different things happening to Milan next season in the hands of fonsesca as the new coach, so far he has made many changes in overhauling the Milan squad, so we don't know whether Milan next season will be better or will experience a downturn.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on August 06, 2024, 09:03:45 AM

AC Milan showed a great performance in the friendly matches. I, and probably you, did not expect to see such a good performance from them. Right now, it seems like Fonseca has managed to add good things to the team, but when the league starts, everything will start to become clearer. Because the teams will be on the field with their best squad to compete in the best way. For now, everything is going very well, but we should not forget that these matches were friendly matches. The opponents may not have taken it very seriously, the real struggle will be in the league.

AC Milan is always having good depth into Serie A as they are consistently doing good job in last few years even they are having some troubles on and off the field but still things are working as they are having good squad and performance with consistency their pre-season matches are showing how things will be in coming season because in last season they were able to have things well under control, but they were late so have to stay at the second spot.

Now in this season start is good, and they are also having few top players which are ready for having their best at this level Serie A is having good results in last few years even many clubs are suffering due to Covid era, but they are able to bring better results we can expect another good season at the top because few teams are trying their best for having top spots and quality performance.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 06, 2024, 10:47:15 AM

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Thus, it would be very wrong if Atalanta played optimally with full strength in such an unimportant friendly match. So,don't be surprised if Atalanta are beaten badly by Parma, after all the real match will happen in the new season later, and of course the results will be very different,and the results in friendly matches can in no way be used as an assessment of the quality of the team for next season.

Usually a mediocre team will play their best because it is their chance to play against a top team. But I think there are almost no top teams who play their best in friendly matches. There are many top teams who lost to weak teams in pre-season matches. Real Madrid also lost to AC Milan and Barcelona in friendlies. And you are right that Atalanta have an important match in the UEFA Super Cup next Thursday. So it is unlikely that Gasperini will play his first team and aim for victory. I think Gasperini is trying to use the match against Parma as a way to try out various tactics for the match against Real Madrid.

It is not right to compare Parma to Milan or Barcelona. Milan and Barcelona are two top-level teams. Real Madrid played their friendlies with them. Parma is a simpler team and Atalanta lost to them with a heavy defeat. It may have been an important match for Atalanta in tactical terms, but they should not have experienced this score.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 06, 2024, 10:47:15 AM

Quote from: hahay on August 05, 2024, 11:44:09 AM

Thus, it would be very wrong if Atalanta played optimally with full strength in such an unimportant friendly match. So,don't be surprised if Atalanta are beaten badly by Parma, after all the real match will happen in the new season later, and of course the results will be very different,and the results in friendly matches can in no way be used as an assessment of the quality of the team for next season.

Usually a mediocre team will play their best because it is their chance to play against a top team. But I think there are almost no top teams who play their best in friendly matches. There are many top teams who lost to weak teams in pre-season matches. Real Madrid also lost to AC Milan and Barcelona in friendlies. And you are right that Atalanta have an important match in the UEFA Super Cup next Thursday. So it is unlikely that Gasperini will play his first team and aim for victory. I think Gasperini is trying to use the match against Parma as a way to try out various tactics for the match against Real Madrid.

That's how it is, because in reality there are matches that are more important than friendly matches, so I surprised because some of them are very fixated on the results of friendly matches to assess the team's performance for the new season later. Although indeed, basically there is still not a very good chance for Atalanta to play against Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup. But at least, Atalanta can still do its best and maybe, Atalanta will be able to give another surprise like it did in the Europa League last season by beating Liverpool and also beating Bayer Leverkusen.

But unfortunately, based on the news I received recently about Gianluca Scamacca, it is that Gianluca Scamacca suffered an injury which also took a long time to recover. After all, Gianluca Scamacca last season also had a big contribution to Atalanta because at least Gianluca Scamacca was the player who had a lot of goals for Atalanta last season. With incidents like this, of course it will be a difficult task for Atalanta to be able to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup later.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on August 06, 2024, 08:07:37 AM

If a match is held between AC Milan and Real Madrid, then Real Madrid will field players from the bench to show their strength, while AC Milan will consider Real Madrid as a big opponent and enter the field with their strong XI. Hence, such matches usually see relatively weaker teams winning against stronger opponents.

However, AC Milan's win over Real Madrid certainly gave them a boost of confidence that will come in handy when they start playing in the main stage. Seeing Real Madrid performing poorly in the pre-season matches, there is no reason to think that this team might not be able to do well next season. Be patient and wait for the season to start, surely Real Madrid's performance will make you happy.

Even I agreed with your statement partially but still I have strong feeling we can't consider AC Milan as weaker side because they are also having good history even not like Real Madrid, but they are one of the best European product with many milestones and quality performance recently they are doing good job just because of this we are having good performance from them in pre-season games because they are feeling next season is going to be challenging in Serie A.

Game between Real Madrid vs AC Milan were having just for the fun, and usually we all know these games are never been having any worth but still they are checking their new players and also having some test case for their preparation which are they doing for the next season because we are having too many teams are ready for the top tier fight into this coming season, and they are looking for perfect results.

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Quote from: hahay on August 05, 2024, 11:44:09 AM

Thus, it would be very wrong if Atalanta played optimally with full strength in such an unimportant friendly match. So,don't be surprised if Atalanta are beaten badly by Parma, after all the real match will happen in the new season later, and of course the results will be very different,and the results in friendly matches can in no way be used as an assessment of the quality of the team for next season.

Usually a mediocre team will play their best because it is their chance to play against a top team. But I think there are almost no top teams who play their best in friendly matches. There are many top teams who lost to weak teams in pre-season matches. Real Madrid also lost to AC Milan and Barcelona in friendlies. And you are right that Atalanta have an important match in the UEFA Super Cup next Thursday. So it is unlikely that Gasperini will play his first team and aim for victory. I think Gasperini is trying to use the match against Parma as a way to try out various tactics for the match against Real Madrid.

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