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Quote from: Weawant on August 05, 2024, 05:20:20 AM

The match against Madrid isn't one I think Madrid did take serious nd shouldn't be considered like one which AC Milan was actually superior to Madrid is and talking about Madrid's strong and firm squad, they weren't all present in that game, he only used a few of them and not the actual complete squad which he has selected to play this season (I mean his first 11). With Manchester city I believe similar thing did happened too because in that game Manchester city was seen with minimal dominance and that was really unlike them, the preseason games aren't one that should be taken seriously as the main strength of the trans will be seen when the season begins.

Usually clubs are taking these preseason matches not seriously because they are already having enough space for this but still going ahead for having some good practice to their newly recruited players because this is also important for them, but AC Milan is doing good job in these games as they are heading for the new season where things could be surely challenging because we are having few teams at their best and this could be not easy for them to stay at this level.

AC Milan is preparing strongly because now they are having some good targets for new season and their new players will be also able to give their best which will bring them in good situation for having good end of their next season while in last season we have good performance near the end of season while their start was not good hopefully now from start they will try to keep pressure for title race.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 05, 2024, 04:54:11 AM

Quote from: Iranus on August 04, 2024, 01:36:31 PM

Oh and Is there any new news about Pogba? Or will he have to serve the full ban?

I don't see any update on Pogba's condition. It seems like he is going to serve his four-year ban fully. I don't think he would get lucky even if he fights against this decision. Rules are rules. He shouldn't have used doping. Sad

I just see that he isn't as competitive as in the past. A determined player would never risk their career like this. We all know that. He tells the media that his return will be solid but I don't believe that. I won't be surprised even if he retires early. Tongue

He was injury-prone as well maybe but he was still a special player. If it weren't for this scandal, I believe he could have still been really useful for Juventus after his recovery.

It’s really unfortunate to see such a talented player go through this, facing such ban is a major setback for him and he knows that too. He is. 31 years already and by the time his ban is due he will be 33-34 years, most of the players at that age find it difficult to play actively in top leagues. By then he should be getting ready to play join others in Saudi Arabia or go to a less competitive league. In as much as i like Pogba i stil think it won’t be easy to retain top performance when his ban is due.

He claims he was set up but a very disciplined footballer will not be easy to setup because his lifestyle won’t permit it but Pogba as we all know is a very social person and his lifestyle is not far from that was why it was easy to set him up if what he claims is true.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on August 05, 2024, 07:10:55 AM

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The match against Madrid isn't one I think Madrid did take serious nd shouldn't be considered like one which AC Milan was actually superior to Madrid is and talking about Madrid's strong and firm squad, they weren't all present in that game, he only used a few of them and not the actual complete squad which he has selected to play this season (I mean his first 11). With Manchester city I believe similar thing did happened too because in that game Manchester city was seen with minimal dominance and that was really unlike them, the preseason games aren't one that should be taken seriously as the main strength of the trans will be seen when the season begins.

Fonseca also did not put out the optimal lineup for these games, and just like Ancelotti and Guardiola made many substitutions during the game, so it is difficult for me to say that he was more striving to win these matches, but I like the way Milan plays in friendly matches.

I would even say that they are not at all ambitious to win this pre-season match, because they will focus more on where they still have weaknesses and they will measure how good the depth of their squad is. A team should have this kind of mindset during the pre-season match, because if they are too ambitious to win, then I think the purpose of the pre-season will not be felt because they put it aside. It is better not to win but they can fix it, than they win but they do nothing. This is something I often see in pre-season matches, where a team can perform well in the pre-season but when entering the real season they can't do anything. On the other hand, there are also teams that only lose in the pre-season but they can give something extraordinary in the official competition. So the pre-season cannot be used as a benchmark for a team regarding their performance in the competition.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on August 05, 2024, 07:10:55 AM

Fonseca also did not put out the optimal lineup for these games, and just like Ancelotti and Guardiola made many substitutions during the game, so it is difficult for me to say that he was more striving to win these matches, but I like the way Milan plays in friendly matches.

As soon as Juventus stopped dominating in Serie A, everything changed, Milan, Napoli and Inter became champions, intrigue appeared. Only Napoli and Inter became champions with a large gap from their closest pursuer, and in the end there was no interest in following such a championship, in Serie A there is no such competition as in the Premier League, when teams move close until the last round.

In several seasons, there has been a very large difference in points between the club that won Serie A and other clubs. Napoli and Inter Milan are examples that have made a big difference since the middle of the season which left all the teams far behind. It's just that I think in the next season we might see even tougher competition again. Because I feel that currently many teams will also start with new coaches. And apart from that, the new coaches actually look quite convincing. It's not just Fonseca that I think looks good. But Napoli even looks very trustworthy for the upcoming season with Antonio Conte. And Juventus with Thiago Motta also looks trustworthy. I am starting to see that clubs in Serie A will start the new season in a more exciting way. Even as newcomers, we know that De Rossi at Roma also looked quite convincing last season. I think there will be something different about the Serie A competition next season.

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Real Madrid lost their two pre-season games against Barcelona and AC Milan. But that doesn't mean that Madrid's dominance has collapsed and they are in bad form. Real Madrid already have a solid squad so I don't think they need to prove anything in pre-season games. Even Real Madrid only played their bench players or their young players in pre-season games. We will be able to see how strong Real Madrid really are in the UEFA Super Cup against Atalanta. I favor Real Madrid to win that game.

Pre-season matches are matches that no team needs to worry about, including Real Madrid who have already experienced defeat. Because it will not make a team's strength worse and also does not make a team's strength definitely improve for those who have won in this pre-season match like AC Milan. Because the thing that really needs to be improved by each team is their level of consistency in the official season later, so at this time there are several efforts that are being tried in order to be applied in the official season later.

Not too serious for most teams of preseason matches are only considered mental training and provide experience to young players. There are some senior players used in the match but it only in channeling the experience of the main players to the available young players. Milan appearance is quite good in terms of playing style and the application of a fairly perfect strategy.
Madrid is also able to provide resistance even though some young players still need a little adaptation, but at least this proves that young players owned by Madrid need a lot of training to improve their talents today.

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Quote from: Weawant on August 05, 2024, 05:20:20 AM

The match against Madrid isn't one I think Madrid did take serious nd shouldn't be considered like one which AC Milan was actually superior to Madrid is and talking about Madrid's strong and firm squad, they weren't all present in that game, he only used a few of them and not the actual complete squad which he has selected to play this season (I mean his first 11). With Manchester city I believe similar thing did happened too because in that game Manchester city was seen with minimal dominance and that was really unlike them, the preseason games aren't one that should be taken seriously as the main strength of the trans will be seen when the season begins.

Fonseca also did not put out the optimal lineup for these games, and just like Ancelotti and Guardiola made many substitutions during the game, so it is difficult for me to say that he was more striving to win these matches, but I like the way Milan plays in friendly matches.

As soon as Juventus stopped dominating in Serie A, everything changed, Milan, Napoli and Inter became champions, intrigue appeared. Only Napoli and Inter became champions with a large gap from their closest pursuer, and in the end there was no interest in following such a championship, in Serie A there is no such competition as in the Premier League, when teams move close until the last round.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 05, 2024, 06:42:55 AM

Real Madrid lost their two pre-season games against Barcelona and AC Milan. But that doesn't mean that Madrid's dominance has collapsed and they are in bad form. Real Madrid already have a solid squad so I don't think they need to prove anything in pre-season games. Even Real Madrid only played their bench players or their young players in pre-season games. We will be able to see how strong Real Madrid really are in the UEFA Super Cup against Atalanta. I favor Real Madrid to win that game.

Big and strong teams like Real Madrid and Man City, they no longer need to prove anything in pre-season. Apart from just testing their players and assessing young players by giving them playing time and so on. So the focus of big clubs is not on winning but they are focused on analyzing the performance of young players or reserve players who they can take into the main squad. So don't be surprised if big clubs experience defeats in pre-season matches. But for a team like AC Milan they need to test their depth and performance in pre-season. Moreover, they have a new coach. So pre-season matches are very important to test their performance in preparation for this season. So it's not surprising that AC Milan played quite well even though they didn't have all their main players. And yeah that's pretty good news for AC Milan because it seems they have brought in the right coach.

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Am I not seeing this wrong? Isn't this too cruel for Atalanta? even they can't do anything in front of Parma. Sad

It seems that Serie A next season will present a new strong figure and actually this is an old face that has started to show its revival again. Parma wants to prove that they are a team full of history and try to make history again in Serie A as a promotion team next season. Atalanta looks helpless in front of Parma and we know that these two teams will also face each other for a season and what if Atalanta can't avenge their defeat in this pre-season match, wouldn't it be a little annoying?

Well, Atalanta have to work hard because after winning the Europa League they can't lower their quality and as a fairly favored team I hope they won't weaken.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 05, 2024, 06:42:55 AM

Real Madrid lost their two pre-season games against Barcelona and AC Milan. But that doesn't mean that Madrid's dominance has collapsed and they are in bad form. Real Madrid already have a solid squad so I don't think they need to prove anything in pre-season games. Even Real Madrid only played their bench players or their young players in pre-season games. We will be able to see how strong Real Madrid really are in the UEFA Super Cup against Atalanta. I favor Real Madrid to win that game.

Pre-season matches are matches that no team needs to worry about, including Real Madrid who have already experienced defeat. Because it will not make a team's strength worse and also does not make a team's strength definitely improve for those who have won in this pre-season match like AC Milan. Because the thing that really needs to be improved by each team is their level of consistency in the official season later, so at this time there are several efforts that are being tried in order to be applied in the official season later.

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Quote from: Weawant on August 05, 2024, 05:20:20 AM

The match against Madrid isn't one I think Madrid did take serious nd shouldn't be considered like one which AC Milan was actually superior to Madrid is and talking about Madrid's strong and firm squad, they weren't all present in that game, he only used a few of them and not the actual complete squad which he has selected to play this season (I mean his first 11). With Manchester city I believe similar thing did happened too because in that game Manchester city was seen with minimal dominance and that was really unlike them, the preseason games aren't one that should be taken seriously as the main strength of the trans will be seen when the season begins.

Real Madrid lost their two pre-season games against Barcelona and AC Milan. But that doesn't mean that Madrid's dominance has collapsed and they are in bad form. Real Madrid already have a solid squad so I don't think they need to prove anything in pre-season games. Even Real Madrid only played their bench players or their young players in pre-season games. We will be able to see how strong Real Madrid really are in the UEFA Super Cup against Atalanta. I favor Real Madrid to win that game.

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Quote from: arimamib on August 04, 2024, 05:39:21 PM

AC Milan appeared quite impressive in their friendly matches this season because in the two matches they played they managed to win.
To be able to beat Real Madrid is certainly not an easy matter because the number one team in Laliga has quite strong strength with many quality players at their disposal, but this can be conquered by the neat play implemented by Paulo Fonseca.
The match against Manchester City was also the same where Colombo et al managed to turn things around and managed to win the match. In the next match, Fonseca's team will face Barcelona and I hope that AC Milan can also come out as winners in the friendly match which will be held M&T stadium.

The match against Madrid isn't one I think Madrid did take serious nd shouldn't be considered like one which AC Milan was actually superior to Madrid is and talking about Madrid's strong and firm squad, they weren't all present in that game, he only used a few of them and not the actual complete squad which he has selected to play this season (I mean his first 11). With Manchester city I believe similar thing did happened too because in that game Manchester city was seen with minimal dominance and that was really unlike them, the preseason games aren't one that should be taken seriously as the main strength of the trans will be seen when the season begins.

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Quote from: arimamib on August 04, 2024, 05:39:21 PM

AC Milan appeared quite impressive in their friendly matches this season because in the two matches they played they managed to win.
To be able to beat Real Madrid is certainly not an easy matter because the number one team in Laliga has quite strong strength with many quality players at their disposal, but this can be conquered by the neat play implemented by Paulo Fonseca.
The match against Manchester City was also the same where Colombo et al managed to turn things around and managed to win the match. In the next match, Fonseca's team will face Barcelona and I hope that AC Milan can also come out as winners in the friendly match which will be held M&T stadium.

AC Milan and its new coach, Paulo Fonsesca, seem to be having a very good pre-season match. They already seem to have good chemistry in every match. And even though AC Milan didn't play all their main players, they still played quite well. Maybe there are still some shortcomings, such as many wasted opportunities and the like. But I think that will be fixed when the season actually starts.

I actually didn't expect much from AC Milan after they changed coaches, but it seems like now I'm starting to expect a lot from this club with its new coach. Apart from that, AC Milan's city rivals, Inter Milan, are also having a very good pre-season. And I think these two clubs from the same city will compete very closely in the season which will start in the next 12 days. Everyone's favorite will probably remain more for Inter Milan. but now AC Milan also seems worth considering.

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Quote from: Iranus on August 04, 2024, 01:36:31 PM

Oh and Is there any new news about Pogba? Or will he have to serve the full ban?

I don't see any update on Pogba's condition. It seems like he is going to serve his four-year ban fully. I don't think he would get lucky even if he fights against this decision. Rules are rules. He shouldn't have used doping. Sad

I just see that he isn't as competitive as in the past. A determined player would never risk their career like this. We all know that. He tells the media that his return will be solid but I don't believe that. I won't be surprised even if he retires early. Tongue

He was injury-prone as well maybe but he was still a special player. If it weren't for this scandal, I believe he could have still been really useful for Juventus after his recovery.

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AC Milan appeared quite impressive in their friendly matches this season because in the two matches they played they managed to win.
To be able to beat Real Madrid is certainly not an easy matter because the number one team in Laliga has quite strong strength with many quality players at their disposal, but this can be conquered by the neat play implemented by Paulo Fonseca.
The match against Manchester City was also the same where Colombo et al managed to turn things around and managed to win the match. In the next match, Fonseca's team will face Barcelona and I hope that AC Milan can also come out as winners in the friendly match which will be held M&T stadium.

It seems that the AC Milan team under Paulo Fonseca's guidance is quite ready to go through the next season and hopes for much more brilliant results even though winning a friendly match cannot guarantee a team to be able to perform well throughout the next season. But for AC Milan itself, I actually have no more doubts when I see the results of their friendly matches like that, even though Paulo Fonseca still has to provide his best tactics in the official season later because that will be much more important than winning in a pre-season match like that.

Preseason matches do not guarantee that they will still be able to show the same performance in official matches later, but Paulo Fonseca has shown or made AC Milan fans quite sure and confident to cover next season with a handful of good results in his preseason matches.

Initially, many people thought that Paulo Fonseca needed to adapt longer to be able to improve the performance of the AC Milan team, but I don't think so after seeing the performance of the AC Milan team in several of its last preseason matches, I am quite optimistic that AC Milan will be able to compete fiercely in the fight for the Scudetto next season.
Paulo Fonseca is extraordinary, this is a surprise in my opinion.

In that the match Fonsesca has shown his ability to coach, even though he has only coached Milan this season, in this friendly match I saw that there was an improvement in Milan game, regardless of whether they will be able to show the same improvement or not in the official match next season.
Pre-season match will not reflect the true strength and performance of Milan, but in this case at least Paulo Fonseca has proven and won the trust of Milan fans to see their team be even better next season, in fact, I personally hope that Enzo Fonseca will be able to improve Milan performance from the previous season done by Stefano Pioli last season, actually Milan under Stefano Pioli coaching played quite well and continued to be able to challenge for the title in the last few seasons but who knows what caused them to fire him at that time.

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Quote from: arimamib on August 04, 2024, 05:39:21 PM

AC Milan appeared quite impressive in their friendly matches this season because in the two matches they played they managed to win.
To be able to beat Real Madrid is certainly not an easy matter because the number one team in Laliga has quite strong strength with many quality players at their disposal, but this can be conquered by the neat play implemented by Paulo Fonseca.
The match against Manchester City was also the same where Colombo et al managed to turn things around and managed to win the match. In the next match, Fonseca's team will face Barcelona and I hope that AC Milan can also come out as winners in the friendly match which will be held M&T stadium.

It seems that the AC Milan team under Paulo Fonseca's guidance is quite ready to go through the next season and hopes for much more brilliant results even though winning a friendly match cannot guarantee a team to be able to perform well throughout the next season. But for AC Milan itself, I actually have no more doubts when I see the results of their friendly matches like that, even though Paulo Fonseca still has to provide his best tactics in the official season later because that will be much more important than winning in a pre-season match like that.

Preseason matches do not guarantee that they will still be able to show the same performance in official matches later, but Paulo Fonseca has shown or made AC Milan fans quite sure and confident to cover next season with a handful of good results in his preseason matches.

Initially, many people thought that Paulo Fonseca needed to adapt longer to be able to improve the performance of the AC Milan team, but I don't think so after seeing the performance of the AC Milan team in several of its last preseason matches, I am quite optimistic that AC Milan will be able to compete fiercely in the fight for the Scudetto next season.
Paulo Fonseca is extraordinary, this is a surprise in my opinion.

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Quote from: arimamib on August 04, 2024, 05:39:21 PM

AC Milan appeared quite impressive in their friendly matches this season because in the two matches they played they managed to win.
To be able to beat Real Madrid is certainly not an easy matter because the number one team in Laliga has quite strong strength with many quality players at their disposal, but this can be conquered by the neat play implemented by Paulo Fonseca.
The match against Manchester City was also the same where Colombo et al managed to turn things around and managed to win the match. In the next match, Fonseca's team will face Barcelona and I hope that AC Milan can also come out as winners in the friendly match which will be held M&T stadium.

It seems that the AC Milan team under Paulo Fonseca's guidance is quite ready to go through the next season and hopes for much more brilliant results even though winning a friendly match cannot guarantee a team to be able to perform well throughout the next season. But for AC Milan itself, I actually have no more doubts when I see the results of their friendly matches like that, even though Paulo Fonseca still has to provide his best tactics in the official season later because that will be much more important than winning in a pre-season match like that.

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Quote from: imamusma on August 04, 2024, 06:54:51 PM

Quote from: arimamib on August 04, 2024, 05:39:21 PM

AC Milan appeared quite impressive in their friendly matches this season because in the two matches they played they managed to win.
To be able to beat Real Madrid is certainly not an easy matter because the number one team in Laliga has quite strong strength with many quality players at their disposal, but this can be conquered by the neat play implemented by Paulo Fonseca.
The match against Manchester City was also the same where Colombo et al managed to turn things around and managed to win the match. In the next match, Fonseca's team will face Barcelona and I hope that AC Milan can also come out as winners in the friendly match which will be held M&T stadium.

The positive results should be repeated in Serie A, not only in the pre-season tour, the change of manager seems to have made Milan more enthusiastic. Indeed, it is not easy to beat clubs of the caliber of Real Madrid and Manchester City even though in a friendly match, the victory can make Milan players more confident. The next match against Barcelona seems not to be much different, at least Milan can target a draw. If you look at the strength that Milan currently has, they will most likely be able to compete with Inter Milan next season. Last season Milan was quite far behind Inter Milan, the presence of experienced players like Moratta can help improve their performance next season. The latest news is that Milan getting closer to reaching an agreement with Tammy Abraham, clearly this is a good step to increase their attack power after the departure of Olivier Giroud.

At least their performance has shown better improvement to welcome this season because this result will give them more confidence to compete with Inter Milan. Like last season, Ac Milan always lost in their duels in the derby della madonnina so improvements are needed to close the gaps that must be made in this transfer market.

However, in the two matches against Real Madrid and Manchester City, of course we have not seen their new star players who they recruited from Atletico Madrid. We have not yet seen the real strength of AC Milan because in the pre-season matches many young players have joined or those who have returned from loan periods such as Colombo.

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Quote from: klidex on August 05, 2024, 02:23:47 AM

Even Juventus management has cut Federico Chiesa's price from 35 million euros to 20 million euros so that this player can be quickly bought by another club and management can use the money to buy players that Thiago Motta needs, I know Federico Chiesa has been an important player for Juventus for years but Thiago Motta definitely wants a more productive striker than that player, we can also see how Juventus was in previous seasons where they did not score as many goals as their rivals did so Motta wants to make Juventus' attack stronger next season.

Sometimes the salary burden is also the reason why Juventus releases its important players. As we know, almost all teams in Serie A are experiencing financial problems so they have to optimize them, I am sure that Juventus management has evaluated the situation last season so they have to take important decisions before the new season starts. Based on Juventus' activity on transfermarkt it seems they are strengthening the midfield line and bring 2 players there by spending 72 million for 2 players. Apart from that, I see that Juventus also needs players in the attacking line but so far there has been no effort to find new players or maybe they are waiting at the last second.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 04, 2024, 05:30:39 AM

Since Motta joined Juventus he tried to do his best to improve the team while he also needs to make some changes and it's very normal to see Motta doesn't want to keep some players in the team while he currently made it clear that he doesn't need Federico Chiesa for the next season.
Federico Chiesa should think about his next destination and Juvnetos also put this player for sale while there is one more year from his contract.

Even Juventus management has cut Federico Chiesa's price from 35 million euros to 20 million euros so that this player can be quickly bought by another club and management can use the money to buy players that Thiago Motta needs, I know Federico Chiesa has been an important player for Juventus for years but Thiago Motta definitely wants a more productive striker than that player, we can also see how Juventus was in previous seasons where they did not score as many goals as their rivals did so Motta wants to make Juventus' attack stronger next season.

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These results are impressive as about less than one month before a start of new season, big clubs are doing their last tests, trials to maximize their preparation for a new season. Winning against big clubs at this stage somewhat show quality and competitiveness of AC Milan. It's good signal for their coming season in Serie A and Champions League as well.

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AC Milan done their jobs well and it's not only about them, but also about Serie A generally. Clubs from Italy and Serie A have been performing better and better in Europe in last three seasons. They are improving from quality to performances with which they can have better finance and purchase better players. If they can maintain it for several more seasons, they will become more competitive in Europe and we will come to time when Serie A can be on top in Europe again.

For me personally, Serie A is not very competitive when compared to other European leagues, of course Serie A is very behind their slow game, of course they will go down next season, Serie A in the last few seasons has been very competitive, but if you look at it in terms of the most viewers, then Serie A is very behind, they cannot attract many fans to draw attention to their league.
Of course I am the opposite, Serie A will be even more behind, because there is not a single team that competes in such a way that until the end of the season Juventus will be even more depressed, of course they lose out to the top clubs, leaving only AC Milan and Inter, the others are less in demand, so if they want to play a competitive league, of course they have to bring in big names and play modern football so that their league becomes the best next season

you think that Serie A is not a competitive championship, so what would competitive championships be? Serie A boasts the best players in the world who play in our championship or at least start in Italy, just look at the fact that there are players like Lautaro Martinez who is very close to winning the Ballon d'Or or other players who have won European Championships and World Cup so excellent football is played here and in my opinion Juventus can do really well this year!

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