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Quote from: Harlot on April 11, 2020, 11:17:59 AM

I haven't seen any news about players and their teams having conflicts with regards to cutting their salaries where they aren't playing, Juventus, Milan, Inter all have agreed to cur their salaries ever since the league was suspended and even some top flight clubs in the EPL as well as LaLiga have cut the salaries of their staff and players. The main issue right now that I see with Serie A is regarding how hard are they trying to resume the league when in fact Italy hasn't even recovered yet from this pandemic, some of their players not a resident in Italy are on their home country which just shows that these players are not even ready to return back to play.

At the moment only the agreement between Juventus and Juventus's player is official, the rest is only speculation and nothing official.
I'm sure the rest will follow the example of Juventus but for the moment nothing is official.

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on April 11, 2020, 03:38:17 AM

for now only the juventus players have accepted the 30% salary reduction there is an arm wrestling between the football league and the players' union to be able to agree on this reduction, however the league insists on playing the remaining matchs of the current season at the end of the lockdown i think more for the pay tv revenue...

I haven't seen any news about players and their teams having conflicts with regards to cutting their salaries where they aren't playing, Juventus, Milan, Inter all have agreed to cur their salaries ever since the league was suspended and even some top flight clubs in the EPL as well as LaLiga have cut the salaries of their staff and players. The main issue right now that I see with Serie A is regarding how hard are they trying to resume the league when in fact Italy hasn't even recovered yet from this pandemic, some of their players not a resident in Italy are on their home country which just shows that these players are not even ready to return back to play.

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on April 11, 2020, 03:38:17 AM

for now only the juventus players have accepted the 30% salary reduction there is an arm wrestling between the football league and the players' union to be able to agree on this reduction, however the league insists on playing the remaining matchs of the current season at the end of the lockdown i think more for the pay tv revenue...

They are talking about law for the whole serieA with a reduction of players' salaries for months where they are not training.
If this law will be approved, almost for sure, every player will have the cut.

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for now only the juventus players have accepted the 30% salary reduction there is an arm wrestling between the football league and the players' union to be able to agree on this reduction, however the league insists on playing the remaining matchs of the current season at the end of the lockdown i think more for the pay tv revenue...

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Italy is living this a lot harsher than any other nation right now, and that would probably show at Serie A as well. For example Bundesliga is making some sort of arrangement to come back during May and that kind of makes sense because they do not have too many death and they are handling it very well and they are not getting too much infection neither, so they saw what happened at other places and took care of their country very well, which shows that they can come back at May to football. However looking at Italy there are a lot more deaths and more % of people dying from corona, hospitals are not enough for the amount of people infected and so forth so they are not going to recover that quickly. This means there will be games probably at earliest july if you ask me, before that they can only manage to try to recover from the disease and can't really focus on football just yet.

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The lockdown has been extended here in Italy till 03 May 2020 so players cannot go to training before that date.
They can train ofcourse on their private gyms at home but they can't go on the team field.

I think if the things go right, they cannot play before the 20 May at best (but as I already said several times I think the season is already over)

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Quote from: redsun114 on April 10, 2020, 10:07:06 AM

We don't know if corona virus would be getting lower and lower, think about Swine Flu for example, it didn't really killed all that much people in the first 100 days but then got bigger and bigger, these are exponential viruses and even though we did take care of this one before anything worse happened and we are doing much better than anticipated by CDC and WHO, we are still in danger. So to say that by around May or June we are going to be just fine, is really knowing what future holds, which nobody can do.

I still think coming back this soon is a dangerous thing, how about they continue by end of July instead? Like start the league by 20th of July and finish it during August, that way we know it is postponed enough, and players could rest during September and come back by October for the next season.

For the most countries we are going to see the outcome of this era of quarantine during May.
I think that Italy is going to end up with coronavirus during June. And of course, this means that Serie A is not going to start till then. They have serious problem right now that they need to alleviate first.

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We don't know if corona virus would be getting lower and lower, think about Swine Flu for example, it didn't really killed all that much people in the first 100 days but then got bigger and bigger, these are exponential viruses and even though we did take care of this one before anything worse happened and we are doing much better than anticipated by CDC and WHO, we are still in danger. So to say that by around May or June we are going to be just fine, is really knowing what future holds, which nobody can do.

I still think coming back this soon is a dangerous thing, how about they continue by end of July instead? Like start the league by 20th of July and finish it during August, that way we know it is postponed enough, and players could rest during September and come back by October for the next season.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 10, 2020, 04:24:02 AM

I think the teams will resume training activities in the next 10-15 days. ~snip~

what would it be like if a football player didn't train for a long time. of course it is a big loss if the players lose their individual skills, on the other hand the club has no income because all matches are suspended. hope all football clubs can still practice even in closed training grounds.

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I think the teams will resume training activities in the next 10-15 days. Probably in a similar fashion like we see in Germany at the moment. Small groups, players training in pairs etc. Players have been resting way too long and at least 2-3 weeks of proper training regimes will be needed before they can play a competitive match. There are already pictures from Portugal showing Ronaldo train in Medeira.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 09, 2020, 01:29:06 PM

That's because UEFA wants every major league to resume their activies in the summer. They're like "we moved the Euro 2020 to next year so you guys better sort things out asap so we can resume Champions and Europa league in August". I'm starting to believe that the top 3 leagues (LaLiga, Premier League, SerieA) are set to resume in the next 2 months (covid19 infection curve will be going down by then), and right now the leagues are: 1) waiting for the govt to give the green light, 2) discussing whether games will be played behind closed doors or not, or if they'll play abroad.

All major leagues should finish their seasons to avoid more complicated things for them and for UEFA.
1. Governments have to shed green lights to open necessary activities first and maybe 2 or 4 weeks later, sports will be repopened.
2. I vote for playing in stadiums, behind closed doors. It is safety for players, and communities.
3. Play abroad, I don't think so because we have been in a pandemic and each nations can not rely on the others like that.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 09, 2020, 02:08:11 AM

@tomahawk9 I’m really surprised to know that Italian League is planning to play again so soon <...>

That's because UEFA wants every major league to resume their activies in the summer. They're like "we moved the Euro 2020 to next year so you guys better sort things out asap so we can resume Champions and Europa league in August". I'm starting to believe that the top 3 leagues (LaLiga, Premier League, SerieA) are set to resume in the next 2 months (covid19 infection curve will be going down by then), and right now the leagues are: 1) waiting for the govt to give the green light, 2) discussing whether games will be played behind closed doors or not, or if they'll play abroad.

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- To Juventus
- Decided in 2 matches between Juventus and Lazio
- Not assigned but keep the position for next Champion's League

I think Juve said a few days ago that they wouldn't accept the title without competing. Option 2 is possible. Option 3 could be controversial, there are a lot of teams with good chances of qualifying to the european competitions (Roma is 3pts behind 4th place, Milan and Verona are close to 6th place).

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Quote from: uray on April 09, 2020, 12:14:57 PM

It is better that there will be no championship as the number of patients are increasing on a daily basis in Italy and the number of patients died is staggering and it will take a long time for everyone to come out of this physiological trauma that everyone went through. Right now you cannot tell that situation will be sorted out by June but we might see matches with empty stadiums if the graph goes down for a while.

As for the season continuing or not I don't care about that as long as it is safe for the players to play even if it is in an empty field, but judging Italy's daily infection which is always thousands daily it won't really be safe for any team to continue their games right now and the Serie A board knows that. Yes they are losing money everyday as long as the league is suspended but they have no choice but to wait this out. We are not that far back from other leagues such as La Liga, EPL as well as Bundesliga still don't have any news about resuming their season so I wouldn't really demand or expect anything from Serie A to resume their league as early as possible.

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Quote from: Raflesia on April 09, 2020, 12:05:12 PM

It is clear the above news that the Serie A league will continue at the time of this pandemic they say it will continue in June (I hope that there is no change) in this season there will still be a championship which will not be as festive as the previous season due to limitations in the crowd so that this will maintain its safety.
Just a little difference with Lazio is not impossible that Lazio will overtake with their victory and let's wait for the next match in Serie A.

It is better that there will be no championship as the number of patients are increasing on a daily basis in Italy and the number of patients died is staggering and it will take a long time for everyone to come out of this physiological trauma that everyone went through. Right now you cannot tell that situation will be sorted out by June but we might see matches with empty stadiums if the graph goes down for a while.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on April 09, 2020, 11:22:15 AM

Not giving a title to anyone makes more sense. I know that it is very very possible for Juventus to win if the league continues but look at premier league, the title definitely belongs to Liverpool, they would have been the champions without a doubt, they were 20+ points ahead, but right now they haven't decided on anything but I think they are not giving anyone the championship.

It is clear the above news that the Serie A league will continue at the time of this pandemic they say it will continue in June (I hope that there is no change) in this season there will still be a championship which will not be as festive as the previous season due to limitations in the crowd so that this will maintain its safety.
Just a little difference with Lazio is not impossible that Lazio will overtake with their victory and let's wait for the next match in Serie A.

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Not giving a title to anyone makes more sense. I know that it is very very possible for Juventus to win if the league continues but look at premier league, the title definitely belongs to Liverpool, they would have been the champions without a doubt, they were 20+ points ahead, but right now they haven't decided on anything but I think they are not giving anyone the championship.

Best case would be let everyone on their place to go to europe next year when this is all over, that way we are sure about which team goes to europe but at least not giving any team any extra credit where it is not due, just allowing them for european cups and thats it, nothing more, not even money for their place because there is a lot of money lacking this season.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 08, 2020, 10:54:26 AM

@efialtis random but, is that Milinkovic Savic in the cover? If Gazzetta was going to have strikers on the cover, why didn't they include a pic of the league goalscorer Immobile? lol

And yeah, looks like the Serie A executives want to resume the league asap and they're going through different options. I found this one: https://www.football-italia.net/151894/extreme-idea-serie-all-rome
*Play all the games in Rome.

And this one: https://www.repubblica.it/rubriche/spycalcio/2020/04/08/news/la_serie_a_ora_copia_il_piano_della_bundesliga_-253473276/
*Play behind closed doors. Less than 300 people in stadiums including reporters. League could resume in first week of June.

Yes every day they are coming up with new ideas but it the end IMHo they will not play and the title will go

- To Juventus
- Decided in 2 matches between Juventus and Lazio
- Not assigned but keep the position for next Champion's League

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Quote from: OcTradism on April 08, 2020, 07:44:54 PM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 08, 2020, 10:54:26 AM

And yeah, looks like the Serie A executives want to resume the league asap and they're going through different options. I found this one: https://www.football-italia.net/151894/extreme-idea-serie-all-rome
*Play all the games in Rome.

And this one: https://www.repubblica.it/rubriche/spycalcio/2020/04/08/news/la_serie_a_ora_copia_il_piano_della_bundesliga_-253473276/
*Play behind closed doors. Less than 300 people in stadiums including reporters. League could resume in first week of June.

From the given news, Serie A has been under considerations to be replayed in the South, at Rome where there are less problems with the virus. And the Serie A might be replayed in June, it is one month later the plan of Bundesliga. But it is a plan and nothing will happen if the nation won't fight well against the virus and the government won't lift the lockdown order in the nation. From those plans (of Serie A and Bundesliga) we know that they really want to finish the season if there are opportunities to do that.

wow... I wasn't expecting this! I think the Serie A won't be started that soon even is another city.
Currently Italy doesn't have a good situation with lock-down and government won't change the lock-down rules. But, on the other side of the story Bundesliga but much better chance to start soon.
In my own idea the Bundesliga can be replayed in the begging of next month maybe.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 09, 2020, 02:08:11 AM

@tomahawk9 I’m really surprised to know that Italian League is planning to play again so soon, considering the fact that Italy is one of the worst effected countries due to Covid19. Furthermore Italian League model can be replicated by other leagues too, as I’m sure that they’ll be able to find some stadiums which are coronavirus free and then they can arrange to play their remaining games there.

Source:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/italys-coronavirus-death-toll-is-far-higher-than-reported-11585767179

Just if leagues' managers want, they can sort it out (with good support from the pandemic). Some nations in North of Europe has began or planned to reopen their kindergartens and schools. Even in most affected nations like Italy, there are regions less affected by the virus and they can finish the leagues within a number of very limited closed stadiums. It won't make fans happy but it is probably the last option to finish leagues. Better than nothing, and better than worst. And if national leaugues get finished we will see the Euro 2020 (now becomes Euro 2021) next summer. Are they what we all waiting for?

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Quote from: tokeweed on April 08, 2020, 11:21:42 AM

Quote from: Pmalek on April 06, 2020, 04:10:45 AM

The media isn't reporting the news about Dybala's tests properly. Dybala was never cured. His 1st test showed that he was positive on COVID-19 while he was in quarantine. He felt bad for a few days and was out of breath and then he started to recover. He then underwent a 2nd test and he was still positive on COVID-19. He never recovered in the sense that he was tested negative. He just felt better and became asymptomatic but not cured.

It's highly possible that there are a lot of people walking around that could be feeling 'alright' but are carriers of the virus.

Anyway what's the latest about the Serie A? I heard training will start again soon at the Bundesliga. That's good in the sense that we get distracted for a little bit.

That is the biggest problem the world is facing,the carriers who do not show any symptom of the virus and go out thinking they are all good.By doing so these are the most dangerous persons to other persons health.

Serie A if it starts soon it is a big risk for another reopening of another massive virus spread so I hope they rethink about it.Italy still has not recovered although number of deaths are a bit smaller it needs at least another month of lockdown in order to contain the virus.

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