Topic: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) - page 396. (Read 869129 times)

I was also surprised why they sacked Mourinho in the first place. Roma seemed to think that signing De Rossi would be a miracle maker. They thought he could win anything with this team. Then Rossi failed, and they're signing a coach from a mediocre club, Ivan Juric, as their new coach.

Roma has been grounded since they sacked Mourinho. Then, they hired amateur coaches, like Rossi, and now Juric. What a downgrade!!

Roma must not rush to fire De Rossi. Even though the results of the four matches played by Roma were less than satisfactory, this could be said to be quite normal. The reason is that De Rossi will definitely need more than one season to be able to make the team he manages into a great team. So the actions taken by Roma were deemed inappropriate, because Roma was impatient with the process De Rossi was going through. The reason is, finding a replacement for De Rossi is not an easy thing. Because if Roma brings in a new coach, it will definitely take a long time to adapt to be able to build good chemistry with the players. So the worst thing that could happen if for example Roma brought in a new coach is to get worse results than now.

Maybe Roma management still remembers what happened last season, when Mourinho was fired in the middle of last season and replaced by De Rossi. At that time, De Rossi really brought quite good changes to Roma. However, this will most likely be difficult to repeat if, for example, Roma changes coach again this season. But what can be done from the news circulating that De Rossi has officially been fired by Roma. So it is certain that Roma will bring in another new coach. We'll see what Roma will be like with their new coach. Until now, I personally don't know who will replace De Rossi at Roma.

But in today match against Manchester City showed Inter Milan playing can match Manchester City and they were able to play away by holding 0 - 0 draw until the second half finished and eventually shared the points.
I was quite surprised to see Inter Milan able to match Manchester City game, but indeed both are strong enough team for the UCL competition even in today match Inter Milan also had quite lot of aggressive attack efforts even though none of them resulted in goal.
In this match I paid enough attention to Yann Sommer, he can still be relied on and made many saves, Inter Milan avoidance of defeat against Manchester City today I also think it was because of Yann Sommer performance which was really the most dominant.

Is like the Roma board of directors are confused on who to manage the team because giving a manager an opportunity to serve as a coach for a particular period of time and later having that trust to allow him continue and when they did not see anything positive at this early stage of this campaign they went about to fire him, it only shows how inpatient they are, I mean the Roma board.
Fine Roma are not doing well but it doesn't mean the fault is from the manager De Rossi, the team lost some good players like Smalling, Belotti, Renato Sanches, Abraham who have been one of the tool in scoring goals for them and many more, ever since they haven't been having that connection as a team which means the team itself isn't playing as a unit like they don't understand how to operate as one, so I don't really blame the coach.

Roma does not change coaches very often in fact the previous coach Jose Mourinho lasted almost 3 seasons with Roma he was fired when the season was almost over because of unsatisfactory results actually Roma did not perform badly it's just that the club's expectations wanted Roma to be in the Champions League zone and Jose Mourinho could not fulfill it. De Rossi replaced Jose Mourinho and he did a good job by achieving many victories but actually Roma only hired this coach temporarily until the end of the season but for some reason the management changed their mind and gave Daniele De Rossi the opportunity to return to coach Roma this season but who would have thought again he could not provide good results at the beginning of the season so Roma fired him before the season passed long there are still many opportunities for Roma to improve this season.

That's what happens if there are no indicators of the process in a camp, and Roma management must have regretted it after Mourinho left and replaced him with their legend, and now they have broken up of course this is frontal but now they have to think long term to be able to give time for the coaching process because all of that will not be instant and I think Roma management must issue their statement on this quick decision, for me this separation will indeed happen but I don't think in such a short time but Roma definitely wants what is good for the club and I think this is a unanimous decision that will be taken which will later have an impact on their squad.

However I read about the development of their coaching bench Roma wants to have a coach like Gesperini who is effective in developing young players and also their attacking style of play, that's good enough in this statement for the development of young players but if later they don't get satisfaction it's a shame the next coach will lose his job in a short time, and I think the same as you they Roma must be wiser in determining their future because otherwise this city will dim.

Frequent changes of coaches can make the team's performance decline because I think when a team gets a new coach then there must be time to adapt, now if a team recruits a coach and after some time feels unsuitable because there is no development then will replace him and continue like that of course it will make the team's performance messy where the players have to adapt again and again with this new strategy making the players unfocused, so it is natural that Roma is experiencing poor performance.
I agree with you, they should be able to consider everything and must be willing to go through the process because frequent changes of coaches are not right, they need patience not quick decisions. In addition, development will be seen if they can adapt to each other, they will not find the best performance just by appointing a new coach.

Roma constant coaching changes are harmful. They cause confusion and stop progress. Changing coaches too often creates problems and disrupts team unity. Players struggle to adjust to new coaches and strategies. Roma management needs clear plan for future not just quick solutions. Changing coaches often leads to poor performance. So Roma management should think about it otherwise Roma will not survive in next matches.

If AS Roma keeps firing their coaches, it will get to a point that they will find it difficult getting a serious coach for the team because of job security. It takes far more than four matches to measure a coach because coaching is something that is not just easy. Imagine choosing players from the thousands of players all over the world, it is not an easy task. Besides, there is no trust when you have to fire a coach that easily because they are not magicians. I will suggest they be more patient with any manager they hire, as that is how loyalty is built.

Vincent Kompany was a great player and having been a captain at Manchester City it is not surprising that people like Pep Guardiola feel that Kompany can be a good manager. Despite his lolength at Burnley was fruitless as it could have been, he is still growing into a coach. Why should he not be in a position to manage a team like the Bayern Munich which is filled with so many world-class players to help him nurture his managerial prowess to an even higher level?
 
 But, the Champions League is an entirely different ball game altogether. The national leagues may be managed by young or inexperienced managers with the powerful teams, but in the European cups the manager need more experience as well as more temper. A clash between Kompany and Guardiola in the champions league would be mouth-watering because it would make a capture of the growth of Kompany as a coach. I believe it would be quite fascinating to discover how he will react when faces a manager of Guardiola calibre a man whose ideas have influenced the modern football and has achieved tremendous results with the leading clubs in Europe.

Hemmm...
This is AS Roma's 4th match, is Roma too hasty with their decision to sack de Rossi?

but whatever it is, currently, AS Roma will be managed by Ivan Juric, a 49 YO Croatian manager, at least until the end of this season.

but basically, Ivan Juric is already quite close and familiar with Serie A because he has indeed been a football manager in Serie A several times, such as previously in Genoa, Verona, and most recently in Torino.


taken from: Serie A fixture-google

Actually in Serie A, there are several top clubs that are really tough at the beginning of this season. In addition to AS Roma, there are also AC Milan and Bologna. Bologna is also very bad this time, even its position is now below AS Roma, right in 17th position. And in the UCL, Bologna failed to win, only drawing against FC Shakhtar Donetsk.

It's yet another season for Roma to suffer another high level of instability, this isn't the best way to go if they really want to achieve a result differently from that which they have been getting, I have to take a deep breath and ask, for how long will they keep sacking and hiring new coaches before they are going to get it right with their coaches, because this pattern of theirs is basically going to mess with the players to the best of my knowledge, because just when the players are already getting along with a new coach, he gets sacked and they have to start all over again to get along with another, its not a good management strategy. Currently like you said there's almost no better replacement and games have been fixed for the team, how are they going to manage, and for how long will they be with an intern till the arrival of an actual coach? Roma just be looking messy to me actually.

I don't know how bad De Rossi is as a coach, maybe he should have been given more time to prove himself, but I am 100% sure that:
1. He is weaker than Mourinho.
2. What he achieved last season is the legacy of Mourinho.
The first three games that De Rossi had as a head coach were something like against the 20th, 18th and 16th teams in Serie A. It's hard not to start "showing yourself" with a calendar like this. With him, Roma started to score more but also to concede more, all the fans (many) were happy about the changes, but in the end it led to worse results.
But in any case, the main idiots in this story are Roma's management, they have unfounded ambitions, I don't know who they will be able to hire and how long he will last in such a club.

I agree with you that Roma was surviving initially with Mourinho game strategy when he left but we thought that it was De Rossi good work on the club unknown to people that he has nothing to offer to the club and people were singing his praises that he is a good coach and he is winning matches with the players Mourinho was complaining about.

It was when the players could no longer use Mourinho strategy to continue winning because they lack the understanding without him for libg and that waa when we saw the true side of De Rossi that he cannot add any value to the team performance. Assuming Mourinho was still Roma's head their performance would have improved.

Good development in terms of performance last season does not seem to be going well at the beginning of this season but it does not mean that this is the end for De Rosi.

Now he is still quite trustworthy as a coach but the demands are clearly greater especially considering Roma's progress at the beginning of the season which seemed not too good of course this must be used as a lesson so that De Rosi can be able to utilize the squad he has so that its performance does not continue to decline compared to last season. De Rosi must change several things especially for the match scheme that is carried out because when talking about the formation and how the performance on the field is actually still quite good, it's just a small touch of finishing which until now is still constrained to be a problem and De Rosi must be able to change this from now on so that he can prove that he is still capable of being in Roma.

De Rossi became the fastest manager to be fired in Serie A this season, AS Roma poor performance in 4 matches made the management and club officials take a firm stance, in order to avoid the relegation zone. Ivan Juric has now been appointed as the new manager, and has started working to prepare his squad to host Udinese this weekend. On paper Ivan Juric has good momentum to record his first win, because he is acting as the host. However, on the other hand, Udinese is currently in impressive form, they have better confidence because they are at the top of the standings. Overall, this match will be troublesome for both teams.

I mean not like it wasn't unexpected, we did see that Liverpool was better and Milan was worse and then Liverpool won, that seems like the most expected result and shouldn't really be that shocking to any of them. I am not saying that they are dealing with this the wrong way, sure if they dislike their manager then fire him early and get someone decent but that doesn't mean that it should be because of this game. They are not doing that great at the league as well and because of that maybe manager could be fired as well.

I know that it is taking some time right now for Fornseca looks like he is at a wobbly chair and could be fired at any given moment. He needs to go on a winning streak to keep his job, which is possible because if he is not fired until the next game and he goes on to win the next ten games or something then suddenly he has a very stable job and not getting fired at all. This is what he needs but I do not see how he can do it, looks like he is in trouble.

It was the right decision, because AS Roma needed quick good results and even though it took time to make the team better, but at least the coach must be able to provide good hope over time with results that are not disappointing like what AS Roma experienced at the beginning of this season. Because after all, AS Roma has also brought in new players who have good quality, but De Rossi has not managed to utilize or maximize the great potential of his players. Therefore, firing De Rossi sooner is the right choice because De Rossi has continued to decline since the end of the season and last season.

I think, at the beginning of this season De Rossi will be able to make AS Roma perform well like when De Rossi was appointed to replace Mourinho at that time last season. But unfortunately, De Rossi made AS Roma continue to get bad results and very much not according to expectations, so for me it is reasonable if De Rossi is fired, because previously I also always said AS Roma to look for a new manager and that really happened now.

So, obviously, when such a performance is seen, the management will be angry and the way you describe their performance, I am amazed.  A performance like this should not be allowed to come into the season as it is.  I was also impressed with Roma's performance but this season they have turned their good performances into bad performances and we have seen the results.  But anyway, they should improve their performance now and if they play with such performance in this season and next season, they will be in a weak situation.  But I don't want that because I was impressed by his performance.  But in spite of this, if their performance were to be like this, wrong words will come out for them and the management will also be angry.  They have been coached but they have stopped working hard which is why these results are there.

That was incredible performance by players of Udinese team. Udinese could win only 2 matches from 6 matches which they played against Parma football team.  Parma team is good team and they tried their best to win last match but unfortunately they could not win this match. Thauvin  was top performer of this match and he was match changer because he did crucial two goals for his team and without his goals ,his team could lose this match. He did his first goal at 68 minutes of the match and after this goal , score was level. Most of the people thought that ,match will be draw but we saw change in this match and he did last goal of the match at 77 minutes of the match.