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Quote from: Minor Miner on September 19, 2024, 05:01:16 AM

I would say the main reason Milan lost was their poor match strategy. Milan took the lead after only 3 minutes in this match. And after taking the lead, Milan started playing in a completely defensive strategy. Milan probably thought that they would be able to resist the Liverpool team if they played a defensive strategy. But after Milan played a defensive strategy, naturally Liverpool increased their attacking speed. And before the end of the first half, the Liverpool team got a lead of 2-1.

The match would have been more competitive had Milan not played defensively. Milan's squad was also strong. In this match we could see goals from both teams. But because of Milan's defensive strategy, Liverpool's players got a chance to dominate the match. And this is why AC Milan lost the match.

That is clear because the defeat was caused by the team's lack of ability in dealing with the opponent's strategy so that even though they were ahead first they would still lose. But what is most highlighted is how the defense line became so weak and they were unable to keep up. Playing defensively against an aggressive team will be difficult because Milan gives Liverpool space to attack.

When Milan plays more defensively, it will make Liverpool more free to hold the ball so that Milan is made so troubled. If Milan plays openly, the match will be more interesting and Milan can also make Liverpool's defense a little troubled in dealing with their attacks.

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Quote from: irhact on September 19, 2024, 04:31:19 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 19, 2024, 03:10:59 PM

Roma was disappointed recently and they couldn't get good results which made the team unhappy and they decided to get De Rossi fired from this team. Roma changed many coaches and they were unstable because of the bad performance they got, first, they got Hurinho fired, and then De Rossi.
We know De Rossi was famous and he had a good performance in Roma once he joined there.

Roma sacking De Rossi after just four games shows how serious they're ready for this season. He hasn't done well and deserved to leave the club. He can't take over a club and not give them good results when it was bad results that made the last manager to get sacked. Drawing against Genoa was his last game and he didn't win that one. Those individuals saying he should have been given some time, why waste the manager time when he'll still be sacked later. It's better he gets sacked early so the team can get a new manager that they can work well with the rest team for the rest of the season and start to get results before it gets too late to catch up with other teams.

Well I agree with you maybe Roma's decision was too hasty in firing De Rossi but I think it was the right decision because this is just the beginning of the season and the new manager will take over to fix Roma's wrong performance rather than waiting too long if the results do not improve Roma will be even more depressed and it will be even more difficult for the new coach to handle it so the management is just trying the best for their team I'm sure they have considered carefully before giving De Rossi a chance this season because the results are not as they want they don't want to waste a lot of time.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 19, 2024, 06:58:29 PM

Quote from: imamusma on September 19, 2024, 05:30:44 PM

To anticipate a more rapid decline in performance, De Rossi dismissal is considered appropriate, although it will pose other risks. New manager Ivan Juric will clearly need time to adapt to implement his strategy, as will some players who are already comfortable with the pattern that was built previously. This will certainly be a challenge for the new manager, how he will work around the current difficult situation and then change it.

Every change of coach will definitely require a good adaptation for the coach and the players. And this will not be easy. At least because the season has started, we can see how the next few months will be, whether there will be any changes from AS Roma or not. Because after all, in the past, de Rossi was initially only contracted for a few months. And this time, Ivan Juric was contracted for this season. Their first match was against Udinese, the current leader of the standings. This is not good enough for Ivan Juric's start. But if they can win or at least draw, then this will be a good start for Ivan Juric to start his career at AS Roma.

Source: Atalanta’s Matteo Retegui apologises for penalty miss against Arsenal

Oh yes, from the 5 Serie A representative clubs, 1 lost (AC Milan), 1 won (Juventus), and 3 drew. And the latest is Atalanta's quite good in holding Arsenal , a top club from EPL, to a draw. But, a fact, Atalanta had at least 2 crucial conditions to score a goal, but it failed. especially when Matteo Retegui missed the penalty kick.

Atalanta, the Serie A representative who was very powerful in last night's match against the EPL representative, but unfortunately the goal that could be said to be the victory failed to be executed properly by the Atalanta players which made the score end with a score of 0-0. This shows that Gesperini is very good at processing young players and making them stronger than I thought, in the first half they played equally getting opportunities but advancing to the second half Atalanta dominated the match quite a bit but the opportunities they got could still be blocked by Raya as Arsenal's goalkeeper.

This draw is of course good for Atalanta in terms of their development, in my opinion here it can be seen that they are quite strong when compared to AC Milan, and most likely Atalanta will be a mediocre team in the Champions League which is currently shining this season.

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Quote from: imamusma on September 19, 2024, 05:30:44 PM

To anticipate a more rapid decline in performance, De Rossi dismissal is considered appropriate, although it will pose other risks. New manager Ivan Juric will clearly need time to adapt to implement his strategy, as will some players who are already comfortable with the pattern that was built previously. This will certainly be a challenge for the new manager, how he will work around the current difficult situation and then change it.

Every change of coach will definitely require a good adaptation for the coach and the players. And this will not be easy. At least because the season has started, we can see how the next few months will be, whether there will be any changes from AS Roma or not. Because after all, in the past, de Rossi was initially only contracted for a few months. And this time, Ivan Juric was contracted for this season. Their first match was against Udinese, the current leader of the standings. This is not good enough for Ivan Juric's start. But if they can win or at least draw, then this will be a good start for Ivan Juric to start his career at AS Roma.

Source: Atalanta’s Matteo Retegui apologises for penalty miss against Arsenal

Oh yes, from the 5 Serie A representative clubs, 1 lost (AC Milan), 1 won (Juventus), and 3 drew. And the latest is Atalanta's quite good in holding Arsenal , a top club from EPL, to a draw. But, a fact, Atalanta had at least 2 crucial conditions to score a goal, but it failed. especially when Matteo Retegui missed the penalty kick.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 19, 2024, 03:10:59 PM

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Quote from: tusandii on September 18, 2024, 09:49:30 PM

Roma does not change coaches very often in fact the previous coach Jose Mourinho lasted almost 3 seasons with Roma he was fired when the season was almost over because of unsatisfactory results actually Roma did not perform badly it's just that the club's expectations wanted Roma to be in the Champions League zone and Jose Mourinho could not fulfill it. De Rossi replaced Jose Mourinho and he did a good job by achieving many victories but actually Roma only hired this coach temporarily until the end of the season but for some reason the management changed their mind and gave Daniele De Rossi the opportunity to return to coach Roma this season but who would have thought again he could not provide good results at the beginning of the season so Roma fired him before the season passed long there are still many opportunities for Roma to improve this season.

Is like the Roma board of directors are confused on who to manage the team because giving a manager an opportunity to serve as a coach for a particular period of time and later having that trust to allow him continue and when they did not see anything positive at this early stage of this campaign they went about to fire him, it only shows how inpatient they are, I mean the Roma board.
Fine Roma are not doing well but it doesn't mean the fault is from the manager De Rossi, the team lost some good players like Smalling, Belotti, Renato Sanches, Abraham who have been one of the tool in scoring goals for them and many more, ever since they haven't been having that connection as a team which means the team itself isn't playing as a unit like they don't understand how to operate as one, so I don't really blame the coach.

Roma was disappointed recently and they couldn't get good results which made the team unhappy and they decided to get De Rossi fired from this team. Roma changed many coaches and they were unstable because of the bad performance they got, first, they got Hurinho fired, and then De Rossi.
We know De Rossi was famous and he had a good performance in Roma once he joined there.
This situation made the fans angry and they started blaming the players of Roma for their bad performance, especially Bryan Cristante the players told him he was just walking on the field.

The fans have every right to blame the players but putting it only on one player isn't right, is like the player has lost his value but we know how fans behave. Like I mentioned the players that left the team, if these guys have been around I don't think the team chemistry would have been this poor because they were the ones that made the team to be competitive in the Serie A and then they made a good account of themselves, even if they lose it still doesn't bring them down and they make sure they win their next game to put a smile on the faces of the fans, so when you've lost these set of players without any positive replacement you don't gave to expect a miracle to happen to the team. To me I'll blame the owners for not putting enough effort to get the replacement of those players that left.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on September 19, 2024, 01:36:40 PM

They played very successful matches in the pre-season camp, but real matches are different. Everyone had high expectations from Milan. They said they would play well in the Champions League, but Liverpool crushed them. It is time for Milan to recover. The coach should do whatever it takes to save the team. If Milan continues to play like this, the first person to be fired from the team will probably be the coach.

I don't know if you were expecting Liverpool would have done any less than they did because for them it's a priority game and don't forget they are better experienced than Milan is in the champions league, luckily this game isn't a determinant for either teams to get to the next level but it's more like a starting point which could be of help in terms of team confidence throughout their stay in the champions league. Looking at Milan's performance last season and even in the domestic league this season.

t's very true that the bars were raised high for them.and meeting with it isn't any small deal to handle, champions League is a very competitive league with a totally different approach by other teams, literally some team so have a complete separate strategy for the champions League which isn't same as what they use.in their domestic league hence Milan should apply almost same pattern maybe it would give them different results from what they have started of with, by the way congrats to Liverpool.

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Quote from: irhact on September 19, 2024, 04:31:19 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 19, 2024, 03:10:59 PM

Roma was disappointed recently and they couldn't get good results which made the team unhappy and they decided to get De Rossi fired from this team. Roma changed many coaches and they were unstable because of the bad performance they got, first, they got Hurinho fired, and then De Rossi.
We know De Rossi was famous and he had a good performance in Roma once he joined there.

Roma sacking De Rossi after just four games shows how serious they're ready for this season. He hasn't done well and deserved to leave the club. He can't take over a club and not give them good results when it was bad results that made the last manager to get sacked. Drawing against Genoa was his last game and he didn't win that one. Those individuals saying he should have been given some time, why waste the manager time when he'll still be sacked later. It's better he gets sacked early so the team can get a new manager that they can work well with the rest team for the rest of the season and start to get results before it gets too late to catch up with other teams.

To anticipate a more rapid decline in performance, De Rossi dismissal is considered appropriate, although it will pose other risks. New manager Ivan Juric will clearly need time to adapt to implement his strategy, as will some players who are already comfortable with the pattern that was built previously. This will certainly be a challenge for the new manager, how he will work around the current difficult situation and then change it. Sunday match against Udinese is an opportunity to achieve the first victory, as well as seek capital confidence before hosting Atletico Bilbao in the Europa League.
Actualy, AS Roma is not a team that can be relied on to compete in the top four of the standings every season, they are lucky to have had a manager of Jose Mourinho caliber in the previous period, but unfortunately the management did not support it with an adequate budget, so it failed to present the Scudetto.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 19, 2024, 03:10:59 PM

Roma was disappointed recently and they couldn't get good results which made the team unhappy and they decided to get De Rossi fired from this team. Roma changed many coaches and they were unstable because of the bad performance they got, first, they got Hurinho fired, and then De Rossi.
We know De Rossi was famous and he had a good performance in Roma once he joined there.

Roma sacking De Rossi after just four games shows how serious they're ready for this season. He hasn't done well and deserved to leave the club. He can't take over a club and not give them good results when it was bad results that made the last manager to get sacked. Drawing against Genoa was his last game and he didn't win that one. Those individuals saying he should have been given some time, why waste the manager time when he'll still be sacked later. It's better he gets sacked early so the team can get a new manager that they can work well with the rest team for the rest of the season and start to get results before it gets too late to catch up with other teams.

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Quote from: Palakka on September 19, 2024, 12:10:58 PM

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It only took 4 matches for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. They were not satisfied with what De Rossi showed in those 4 matches, so they decided to fire him sooner. Maybe they thought of responding sooner before things got worse-snip-

Last season many said De Rossi was a better coach because AS Roma could get some wins. But at that time I think we can't judge the performance of a coach who took over when the season was about to end. Honestly I was not sure about De Rossi's performance at that time. And I still think Mourinho shouldn't have been sacked because he knew AS Roma had some problems and he still didn't get the players he wanted. But that's my personal opinion. It's still early in the season and I hope the new coach can adapt quickly and give Roma wins in Serie A. It's hard to think a team like Roma still hasn't gotten a win in the first 4 league games.

What is happening to de rossi at the moment is quite tragic that Roma does not give him much time to return to a positive path, but indeed it would be better for Roma to sack De Rossi at the beginning of the season after a few games played, because if Roma continue to keep De Rossi maybe we will see Roma much worse in the middle of the season later, Last season many of us here continued to praise De Rossi and consider him better than Mourinho after Roma were able to consecutive win in their games, although we realize that their squad last season was the hard work of from Mourinho previously, in fact De Rossi has just renewed his contract as coach but Roma ambition next season to play in the Champions League is a bigger reason to sack him. Ivan Jurig will be Roma new coach at the moment, but I think to get Roma back on track of victory of course he needs a lot of time at the moment.

I agree with your perspective, and furthermore Football clubs run for both Business and for entertainment, basically aiming at making profits while serving the purpose of entertainment, and seeing the current poor state of AS Roma, since after that Mourinho left the club, and De Rossi took charge isn't something to take, as the club expected a better performance with him being in charge. The management team has been patient with him to see if things can really work out fine, but they lost confidence on him and trusting him with the job, is like sitting down with your legs crossed and watching your business crumble without doing anything to save it.

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I believe that Mourinho decision was a justified one, he didn't win Europa, he won conference and I think he went to finals at Europa (and deserved to win but a horrible refereeing made them lose the game) but at the same time all throughout his managerial period there, he did terrible at the league and that is why he was fired. Look at his results there, for two seasons he did terrible at Serie A and on third season when he was fired he was also doing terrible as well.

Just because De Rossi wasn't a good replacement, doesn't mean that Mourinho was fine, sure they won a cup with him and went to finals again which is awesome and I agree, but when a manager costs 10+ million a year for many years, then you need to at least be in top four of Serie A as well, otherwise he doesn't worth it. Sure the one they have right now wasn't good and sacked but he was cheaper, and I am sure they will find some cheaper alternative again and do fine too.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on September 19, 2024, 03:24:04 PM

I was even hoping that De Rossi would be a better coach than Mourinho last season because when he emerged as the coach that time he had several wins, and As Roma was performing nice that time, but now I am starting to lose hope in him also. But I am thinking we still need to give him time to see if he can get everything in place; if not, it will not be a good one to see that AS Roma is either losing games or having draws. It will not be funny because out of the 4 games they played, they were able to go on three draws, which gave them 3 points, and I still can say if they will be able to have a win in their best game with Udinese. Their victory is still uncertain because of their performance.

Actually, I also hope that De Rossi can stay at AS Roma longer. Because currently he doesn't have much time to build the AS Roma squad, which has just started this season. Even though the results are quite bad, it is still too early for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. Because changing coaches again at the start of the season may not necessarily make their team even better. Because Roma's new coach will definitely have to make some adjustments and re-adapt to the team and it will take time for Roma to really get maximum performance.

AS Roma's new coach is currently Ivan Juric. Ivan Juric will be AS Roma coach until the end of this season. Which means AS Roma is also not sure whether to trust this coach or not.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on September 19, 2024, 10:11:11 AM

Quote from: hyudien on September 18, 2024, 10:06:46 AM

It only took 4 matches for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. They were not satisfied with what De Rossi showed in those 4 matches, so they decided to fire him sooner. Maybe they thought of responding sooner before things got worse-snip-

Last season many said De Rossi was a better coach because AS Roma could get some wins. But at that time I think we can't judge the performance of a coach who took over when the season was about to end. Honestly I was not sure about De Rossi's performance at that time. And I still think Mourinho shouldn't have been sacked because he knew AS Roma had some problems and he still didn't get the players he wanted. But that's my personal opinion. It's still early in the season and I hope the new coach can adapt quickly and give Roma wins in Serie A. It's hard to think a team like Roma still hasn't gotten a win in the first 4 league games.

I was even hoping that De Rossi would be a better coach than Mourinho last season because when he emerged as the coach that time he had several wins, and As Roma was performing nice that time, but now I am starting to lose hope in him also. But I am thinking we still need to give him time to see if he can get everything in place; if not, it will not be a good one to see that AS Roma is either losing games or having draws. It will not be funny because out of the 4 games they played, they were able to go on three draws, which gave them 3 points, and I still can say if they will be able to have a win in their best game with Udinese. Their victory is still uncertain because of their performance.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on September 18, 2024, 10:21:26 PM

Quote from: tusandii on September 18, 2024, 09:49:30 PM

Roma does not change coaches very often in fact the previous coach Jose Mourinho lasted almost 3 seasons with Roma he was fired when the season was almost over because of unsatisfactory results actually Roma did not perform badly it's just that the club's expectations wanted Roma to be in the Champions League zone and Jose Mourinho could not fulfill it. De Rossi replaced Jose Mourinho and he did a good job by achieving many victories but actually Roma only hired this coach temporarily until the end of the season but for some reason the management changed their mind and gave Daniele De Rossi the opportunity to return to coach Roma this season but who would have thought again he could not provide good results at the beginning of the season so Roma fired him before the season passed long there are still many opportunities for Roma to improve this season.

Is like the Roma board of directors are confused on who to manage the team because giving a manager an opportunity to serve as a coach for a particular period of time and later having that trust to allow him continue and when they did not see anything positive at this early stage of this campaign they went about to fire him, it only shows how inpatient they are, I mean the Roma board.
Fine Roma are not doing well but it doesn't mean the fault is from the manager De Rossi, the team lost some good players like Smalling, Belotti, Renato Sanches, Abraham who have been one of the tool in scoring goals for them and many more, ever since they haven't been having that connection as a team which means the team itself isn't playing as a unit like they don't understand how to operate as one, so I don't really blame the coach.

Roma was disappointed recently and they couldn't get good results which made the team unhappy and they decided to get De Rossi fired from this team. Roma changed many coaches and they were unstable because of the bad performance they got, first, they got Hurinho fired, and then De Rossi.
We know De Rossi was famous and he had a good performance in Roma once he joined there.
This situation made the fans angry and they started blaming the players of Roma for their bad performance, especially Bryan Cristante the players told him he was just walking on the field.

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Quote from: iamsange on September 19, 2024, 10:09:26 AM

Paulo Fornseca will definitely make a more evaluation on the team he coached after Milan lost to Liverpool in the Champions League because the defeat in the Champions League was a very painful defeat so Paulo Fornseca must be able to find a better solution to be applied to the next game in any match this season. Because this season I see Milan is also not good enough in Serie A so Paulo Fornseca still has to find a way to revive the Milan team to be stronger in Serie A and also in the Champions League.

There are still many improvements that Fonseca must make for AC Milan this season. Because he started the season badly in Serie A and also immediately suffered a crushing defeat in the UCL by Liverpool. It will really be quite a blow for AC Milan this season. I'm curious about Fonseca's fate there. Will AC Milan continue to give Fonseca the opportunity this season to continue coaching AC Milan? Or AC Milan will act quickly like AS Roma who have currently fired De Rossi. but we know that AC Milan is always patient enough to wait for the process from the coach they bring in. So Fonseca's dismissal may not be as quick as De Rossi's at AS Roma.

In the next match, Milan has a strong city opponent, namely Inter Milan. And I doubt that AC Milan will be able to win this match. I think AC Milan will suffer another defeat in the match against Inter Milan.

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Quote from: iamsange on September 19, 2024, 10:09:26 AM

Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on September 19, 2024, 04:19:03 AM

Milan lost their best form after scoring one goal and they let Liverpool play more openly so that Liverpool had more freedom to attack. The new coach does not fully understand the weaknesses of the team so it is difficult to develop the best game, especially when facing a team that is much more aggressive when attacking as intended by Liverpool. There are many positions and weaknesses for AC Milan especially in that match and I think Paulo Fornseca must try to find a solution to this problem.

Paulo Fornseca will definitely make a more evaluation on the team he coached after Milan lost to Liverpool in the Champions League because the defeat in the Champions League was a very painful defeat so Paulo Fornseca must be able to find a better solution to be applied to the next game in any match this season. Because this season I see Milan is also not good enough in Serie A so Paulo Fornseca still has to find a way to revive the Milan team to be stronger in Serie A and also in the Champions League.

They played very successful matches in the pre-season camp, but real matches are different. Everyone had high expectations from Milan. They said they would play well in the Champions League, but Liverpool crushed them. It is time for Milan to recover. The coach should do whatever it takes to save the team. If Milan continues to play like this, the first person to be fired from the team will probably be the coach.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on September 19, 2024, 10:11:11 AM

Quote from: hyudien on September 18, 2024, 10:06:46 AM

It only took 4 matches for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. They were not satisfied with what De Rossi showed in those 4 matches, so they decided to fire him sooner. Maybe they thought of responding sooner before things got worse-snip-

Last season many said De Rossi was a better coach because AS Roma could get some wins. But at that time I think we can't judge the performance of a coach who took over when the season was about to end. Honestly I was not sure about De Rossi's performance at that time. And I still think Mourinho shouldn't have been sacked because he knew AS Roma had some problems and he still didn't get the players he wanted. But that's my personal opinion. It's still early in the season and I hope the new coach can adapt quickly and give Roma wins in Serie A. It's hard to think a team like Roma still hasn't gotten a win in the first 4 league games.

I know that Daniele De Rossi cannot improve Roma's performance right from onset but just when the club sacked Jose Mourinho and employed the managerial services of De Rossi and he was literally doing well at that time and every one was praising him and even comparing his performance with that of Jose Mourinho but I told people that the coach need to be observed for a while before we draw conclusions and moreover when he takes charge of a complete season then we can be able to rate the coach.

Now Roma is performing badly in this current season and people have started blaming the coach already and this is just to show what football have become such that when a player or a coach is literally doing great for their team they are applauded but as soon as things begins to go differently people begins to condemn them already. The season just started and even though Roma is struggling to pick form but we should accord the coach some time to make good improvements for the team.

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News from a few minutes ago, De Rossi sacked by Roma management.
The management judged the results to be truly disappointing for the first matches and given the nature of the investments and the fear of not entering the Champions League, they decided to sack the coach.
Very bad.

It was the right decision, because AS Roma needed quick good results and even though it took time to make the team better, but at least the coach must be able to provide good hope over time with results that are not disappointing like what AS Roma experienced at the beginning of this season. Because after all, AS Roma has also brought in new players who have good quality, but De Rossi has not managed to utilize or maximize the great potential of his players. Therefore, firing De Rossi sooner is the right choice because De Rossi has continued to decline since the end of the season and last season.

I think, at the beginning of this season De Rossi will be able to make AS Roma perform well like when De Rossi was appointed to replace Mourinho at that time last season. But unfortunately, De Rossi made AS Roma continue to get bad results and very much not according to expectations, so for me it is reasonable if De Rossi is fired, because previously I also always said AS Roma to look for a new manager and that really happened now.

Changing the manager is not new, the main purpose of changing the manager is to bring about a change in the performance of the team. Roma may not have been satisfied with their manager's tactics and the manager may have failed to deliver as much as they expected from this manager and that is why Roma decided to sack this manager. Like other teams change manager every season but we didn't notice in case of roma. Since the sacking of the manager is true, the next manager who is going to take charge of Roma should discuss his team management skills and if he does well there, this decision of Roma will definitely be commendable.

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Quote from: giammangiato on September 19, 2024, 04:03:37 AM

Parma - Udinese i will bet on Udinese
Lazio - Hellas Verona i will bet on Lazio

I don't see many viable bets this week, Inter plays Milan, Juventus faces Napoli.
All very difficult matches, so I try this bet hoping that Udinese doesn't disappoint me and Lazio doesn't disappoint me. Let's see what happens

Dude, I see you're living in the past, so I have some good news for you. Udinese will win 3-2, and Lazio 2-1. You can safely bet more money, the result is guaranteed. If you want, you can even bet on the exact score.
I hope this helps, please write how your bet worked when your watch catches up with September 16th Grin

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Quote from: Hanadawa on September 19, 2024, 10:11:11 AM

Quote from: hyudien on September 18, 2024, 10:06:46 AM

It only took 4 matches for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. They were not satisfied with what De Rossi showed in those 4 matches, so they decided to fire him sooner. Maybe they thought of responding sooner before things got worse-snip-

Last season many said De Rossi was a better coach because AS Roma could get some wins. But at that time I think we can't judge the performance of a coach who took over when the season was about to end. Honestly I was not sure about De Rossi's performance at that time. And I still think Mourinho shouldn't have been sacked because he knew AS Roma had some problems and he still didn't get the players he wanted. But that's my personal opinion. It's still early in the season and I hope the new coach can adapt quickly and give Roma wins in Serie A. It's hard to think a team like Roma still hasn't gotten a win in the first 4 league games.

What is happening to de rossi at the moment is quite tragic that Roma does not give him much time to return to a positive path, but indeed it would be better for Roma to sack De Rossi at the beginning of the season after a few games played, because if Roma continue to keep De Rossi maybe we will see Roma much worse in the middle of the season later, Last season many of us here continued to praise De Rossi and consider him better than Mourinho after Roma were able to consecutive win in their games, although we realize that their squad last season was the hard work of from Mourinho previously, in fact De Rossi has just renewed his contract as coach but Roma ambition next season to play in the Champions League is a bigger reason to sack him. Ivan Jurig will be Roma new coach at the moment, but I think to get Roma back on track of victory of course he needs a lot of time at the moment.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on September 19, 2024, 10:11:11 AM

Last season many said De Rossi was a better coach because AS Roma could get some wins. But at that time I think we can't judge the performance of a coach who took over when the season was about to end. Honestly I was not sure about De Rossi's performance at that time. And I still think Mourinho shouldn't have been sacked because he knew AS Roma had some problems and he still didn't get the players he wanted. But that's my personal opinion. It's still early in the season and I hope the new coach can adapt quickly and give Roma wins in Serie A. It's hard to think a team like Roma still hasn't gotten a win in the first 4 league games.

I don't think sacking Mourinho when they did was a bad idea and I don't think hiring De Rossi was a bad idea either. Mourinho wouldn't have done any better than he did with Roma at the time he was fired. He was failing and no amount of time would have been enough. If Mourinho didn't leave then they would not have made it to Europa.
That doesn't mean De Rossi is a better manager than Mourinho, far from it. Mou is one of the greatest managers of his generation and he's in a different league from De Rossi, but at the time that was what Roma needed. They needed some fresh air and fresh ideas and it worked relatively well.

For this season, it's good that Roma made a decision early on. It's better to do it now than wait until it will be long into the season and by then it would be too late to salvage the season.
Now Roma has appointed Ivan Juric, former Torino manager as their new coach for the whole of this season. Hopefully, he can take them back to top form.

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