Topic: Its Official Pirate Has Defaulted!! - page 4. (Read 63493 times)

My point was more that very few involved have been earning anything with BTC long enough to be liable for tax evasion...  Yes, it is a given that if one were to take legal action that would involve them disclosing their BTC earnings then they would not be wise to then leave those earnings out of their next tax filing.

That he does not leads me to believe he still does not have one. Or atleast does not have one that he is a client to in a legal sense in this matter.

Still no banruptcy filings coming out of TX that appear to be related, as of Fri morning when I last checked..

Yes, after looking more closely into the article, Wesley Snipes was a bad example. But nonetheless, tax evasion is a real thing, which you can go to jail for. I don't think they would go so far as to get every single user for tax evasion, but I'd wager there would be fines, and some big players certainly would go up the river.

But yes, back on track. Pirate's an asshole, and he needs to pay up, or at least let us know his lawyer's contact info. In his shoes, that's the only thing I would be saying: "You can reach my lawyer at:...."

There is a MASSIVE difference between this;
"On October 12, 2006, Wesley Snipes, Eddie Ray Kahn, and Douglas P. Rosile were charged with one count of conspiring to defraud the United States under 18 U.S.C. § 371 and one count of knowingly making or aiding and abetting the making of a false and fraudulent claim for payment against the United States, under 18 U.S.C. § 287 and 18 U.S.C. § 2. Snipes was also charged with six counts of willfully failing to file federal income tax returns by their filing dates under 26 U.S.C. § 7203.[15] The conspiracy charge against Snipes included allegations that he filed a false amended return, including a false tax refund claim of over US$4 million for the year 1996, and a false amended return, including a false tax refund claim of over US$7.3 million for the year 1997. The government alleged that Snipes attempted to obtain fraudulent tax refunds using a tax protester theory called the "861 argument" (essentially, an argument that the domestic income of U.S. citizens and residents is not taxable). The indictment said Snipes used accountants who already had a history of filing false returns to obtain refund payments for their clients.[16] The government also charged that Snipes sent three worthless, fictitious "bills of exchange" to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in the amounts of $1,000,000 (on November 30, 2000), $12,000,000 (January 18, 2001), and $1,000,000 (September 10, 2002), each accompanied by an IRS tax payment voucher coupon.[17]"

and

Filing late returns with capital gains invloved...

Take it from someone who files a fair number of corporate tax returns every year. Every year I've got clients that wait until the very last minute in Nov. to have their previous year taxes filed.. And some that have not filed in years. I've got one now that has not filed since 2003. It does present some issues, but nothing that would prevent them from taking any sort of legal action. And especially would not prevent them from taking legal action that would 'prove' earnings on any recent investments....

How long have bitcoins been earning capital gains for any of the beneficiaries of BS&T that would be looking to file suit?? yeaa.

can we get back on track?

Well, actually, in my country you have access to internet and computers in jail.
Even in your own cell if in not missinformed (which i might be since i never had the "opportunity"
to view it first hand).

I'm used to piss the gubermint since a long time ago.
I'm also used to defend myself from their powertrips. or do you think we have internet on jail? lol

Well, true, and believe me, I don't disapprove of you withholding that info, or that about your Bitcoins. But I think calling in the Law is the wost possible thing we can do for this Pirate thing. I mean, eventually, Bitcoin is going to come to their attention as a threat to their financial system, but do we really need to hasten that day?

But you post about it on the open internet....

If investigated, or if you piss someone off you can get into trouble.

I dont tell the government about my silver collection either 

Have they gained in value? Have you paid taxes on that increase? Trust me, they'll find a way to fuck you, if they want to.


Sorry, man, I just now see that you said "[in] my country" I thought you said "in any country"... My bad.

And I'm not, but they will, I assure you.

But I'm not a US citizen. and repeating myself: owing tax money would not send me to jail on my country, so, please do report me to the IRS...
Furthermore, why are you ASSuming I owe any taxes at all from my bitcoin holdings?

 I originally bought coins with after tax income.

The fuck is he doing in jail, then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Snipes#Federal_tax_convictions

(And yes, the US IRS has no jurisdiction outside of the US, unless you're a US citizen, but other countries have revenue services)

The IRS doesnt have a bitcoin address 

I for one intend to pay my capital gains taxes on my BTC holdings if they eventually turn out to be worth something and I'm cashing them out.

uh? AFAIK owing tax money isn't an offense punished with jail time on my country. And the IRS doesn't have any jurisdiction here.

Which is my point. How many people here pay taxes on their BTC? Convince the IRS that it's money, and you're going to have a bad day.

The trouble is half of the scammers targets would be in jail with them 

Get the FBI/IRS involved in this, and I'll show you hundreds.

Nothing  has happened to any bitcoin scammers except them laughing at how easy it is to steal coins. Show me one person in jail as a result of a bitcoin scam.

What you said is correct.
But it also means that scams cant be done easily in Bitcoin.
In real life you can even change your DNA to hide yourself.
But, if some one, wants to run a HYIP then they cant do it easily in Bitcoin.
Either he must be most advanced scammer/hacker to fool every single person in Bitcoin or get caught easily.
Any way this gives power to Bitcoin.
Bitcoin & this forum, makes Bitcoin scam proof for multi million dollar HYIP & businesses.