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See, I apply this logic in the same way when I consider a bunch of Trump supporters armed with selfie sticks and MAGA hats. Did the capital riots really pose any threat to democracy?

It's ridiculous the way you try to downplay what happened.

And it's also ridiculous the way you downplay BLM riots that resulted in dozens of deaths, billions of dollars worth of damages, and pull the "fiery but mostly peaceful" nonsense that CNN touts. By any metric, BLM riots were worse, but that's excused because it was for Saint George Floyd. Rioting is BAD no matter if you're rioting for a fentanyl junkie dying in police custody, or if you're trying to storm the US capitol based on false notions of election fraud. Presidential hits, world wars, terrorist attacks, and the capitol riots were not worst attack on democracy and the capital riots were? Funny. If Joe Biden says stupid things, don't cover for him.

There's a difference between downplaying violence related to BLM protests and calling out people who use the violence to push their (racist) "it's their own fault/there is no racism/blm = violence, thugs, crime" agenda. 

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See, I apply this logic in the same way when I consider a bunch of Trump supporters armed with selfie sticks and MAGA hats. Did the capital riots really pose any threat to democracy?

It's ridiculous the way you try to downplay what happened.

And it's also ridiculous the way you downplay BLM riots that resulted in dozens of deaths, billions of dollars worth of damages, and pull the "fiery but mostly peaceful" nonsense that CNN touts. By any metric, BLM riots were worse, but that's excused because it was for Saint George Floyd. Rioting is BAD no matter if you're rioting for a fentanyl junkie dying in police custody, or if you're trying to storm the US capitol based on false notions of election fraud. Presidential hits, world wars, terrorist attacks, and the capitol riots were not worst attack on democracy and the capital riots were? Funny. If Joe Biden says stupid things, don't cover for him.
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See, I apply this logic in the same way when I consider a bunch of Trump supporters armed with selfie sticks and MAGA hats. Did the capital riots really pose any threat to democracy?

It's ridiculous the way you try to downplay what happened.
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I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.

WW2 wasn't an attack on our democracy, it was an attack on democratic powers of the world, more or less. The Cold War wasn't really an "attack." 9/11 certainly is up there on my list.

True. But I see WW2 as an indirect attack on American democracy, and perhaps the biggest threat to democracy at the time. Maybe some related WW2 events, Pearl Harbor is a better example as a direct attack. But Hitler's reign would have forced the Americans to join in the war at some point or another.

Sir, I think the major cause of  WW2 was Economic Depression in the late 1920s neither it was attack on Democracy or Major World Powers and 9/11 was also reaction of unjust policies of Western world in Middle East. Bin Laden was one of richest families in Saudi Arabia and he was creation of CIA during Afghan war but he turned against western powers when he realised that CIA used them to defeat Soviet Union and they didn't get anything out this Bloody war and unfortunately the world is again entering into Cold war era between USA and China which is not good for common people of the world, This cold war will not help to solve major issues of world those are Poverty, illiteracy and Environment rather Huge budget allocations will go towards Arms race..

9/11 was a direct attack on democracy no matter the middle eastern policy at the time.

Sir, Do you think Democracy is so fragile that it will break up with attack of few extremists. I think the biggest threat to Democracy is accumulation of wealth in few hands, growing number of jobless people  and lack of justice in society.

See, I apply this logic in the same way when I consider a bunch of Trump supporters armed with selfie sticks and MAGA hats. Did the capital riots really pose any threat to democracy? Was the US actually at risk? Was there a real national security threat? At the time, it could have felt like that. In hindsight, all it took was some man power and tear gas and they went home crying.
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Pearl Harbor was an attack on the United States. It was an attack that Japan hoped would lead to the US falling to the Axis of evil. 9/11 was similarly an act of War against the United States, similar to Pearl Harbor was purported by far left terrorists extremists.

The Biden administration can only be described as extremist and radical. 

Japan never thought the U.S. would fall, they were hoping to knock out the U.S. Navy in its entirety in one fell swoop. That way they couldn't enforce their recent embargo against Japan.

Japans short terms goals may have been to stop the embargo, however once the war was won in China and Russia, Japan would have moved onto Hawaii and the mainland US.

Drop the assumptions, because your topic is in history. You must not mention their "future motives" if it is based on your own opinion and assumptions.

If you tackle history like this, you must reference everything, and not account the "Ifs".

Also, I would accept this if you say "I think" or "I assumed" but you state it as if you were there and know what they planned to do.
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Sir, I think the major cause of  WW2 was Economic Depression in the late 1920s neither it was attack on Democracy or Major World Powers and 9/11 was also reaction of unjust policies of Western world in Middle East. Bin Laden was one of richest families in Saudi Arabia and he was creation of CIA during Afghan war but he turned against western powers when he realised that CIA used them to defeat Soviet Union and they didn't get anything out this Bloody war and unfortunately the world is again entering into Cold war era between USA and China which is not good for common people of the world, This cold war will not help to solve major issues of world those are Poverty, illiteracy and Environment rather Huge budget allocations will go towards Arms race..

You lost me with the first part but I absolutely agree with your assessment of 9/11. I'm not a fan of the U.S. government bending the will of small countries for the benefit of our military-industrial complex and corporatocracy. Doesn't mean 9/11 wasn't an attack on America, or that it was a righteous thing to do.

Pearl Harbor was an attack on the United States. It was an attack that Japan hoped would lead to the US falling to the Axis of evil. 9/11 was similarly an act of War against the United States, similar to Pearl Harbor was purported by far left terrorists extremists.

The Biden administration can only be described as extremist and radical.  

Japan never thought the U.S. would fall, they were hoping to knock out the U.S. Navy in its entirety in one fell swoop. That way they couldn't enforce their recent embargo against Japan. And "far left terrorists"... get a grip man. When you say stuff like that, I can't help but think you have absolutely no respect for history, or reality for that matter.

I think the biggest threat to Democracy is accumulation of wealth in few hands, growing number of jobless people  and lack of justice in society.

Well said.

I bet Quickseller wants his merits back tho, lol.

Sir, I love American people who are very dynamic and innovative, its constitution  which is perhaps one of the bests, it protects basic rights of every human and is against any kind of discrimination. USA has contributed a lot for Industrial development, improve health care and created innovative technologies to improve quality of life  worldwide and created Huge job opportunities but at the same time they run a Foreign policy which is very aggressive and totally based on their economic interests.  They don't mind to make huge killings of innocent people to protect it. Though America didn't use nuclear bomb after WW2 to win war in Vietnam, Syria  and Afghanistan but US fire power turned  these countries  into big grave yards. Please forgive me if you don't agree with my thoughts.
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Pearl Harbor was an attack on the United States. It was an attack that Japan hoped would lead to the US falling to the Axis of evil. 9/11 was similarly an act of War against the United States, similar to Pearl Harbor was purported by far left terrorists extremists.

Japan attacked Pearl Harbor to reduce the US navy presence in the Pacific, which they saw as an obstacle to expanding throughout China and Southeast Asia.  They intended to take a bunch of countries, but not the United States.

The attack was not an act of terrorism, it was a strategic military strike.

When you say 'far left', is that just what you're calling everything bad these days in hopes of convincing people that the American Politicians you disagree with are the same?

Do a little research on Showa Statism, the right-wing political ideology of Imperial Japan.  You're trying way to hard to pwn the libs.


The Biden administration can only be described as extremist and radical.  
I think Biden is doing an extremely good job.
You'd have to be pretty far to the right for the Biden administration to appear radical from your perspective.  Or I suppose you could simply be consuming too much right wing media.
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Pearl Harbor was an attack on the United States. It was an attack that Japan hoped would lead to the US falling to the Axis of evil. 9/11 was similarly an act of War against the United States, similar to Pearl Harbor was purported by far left terrorists extremists.

The Biden administration can only be described as extremist and radical. 

Japan never thought the U.S. would fall, they were hoping to knock out the U.S. Navy in its entirety in one fell swoop. That way they couldn't enforce their recent embargo against Japan.

Japans short terms goals may have been to stop the embargo, however once the war was won in China and Russia, Japan would have moved onto Hawaii and the mainland US.
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I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.

WW2 wasn't an attack on our democracy, it was an attack on democratic powers of the world, more or less. The Cold War wasn't really an "attack." 9/11 certainly is up there on my list.

True. But I see WW2 as an indirect attack on American democracy, and perhaps the biggest threat to democracy at the time. Maybe some related WW2 events, Pearl Harbor is a better example as a direct attack. But Hitler's reign would have forced the Americans to join in the war at some point or another.

Sir, I think the major cause of  WW2 was Economic Depression in the late 1920s neither it was attack on Democracy or Major World Powers and 9/11 was also reaction of unjust policies of Western world in Middle East. Bin Laden was one of richest families in Saudi Arabia and he was creation of CIA during Afghan war but he turned against western powers when he realised that CIA used them to defeat Soviet Union and they didn't get anything out this Bloody war and unfortunately the world is again entering into Cold war era between USA and China which is not good for common people of the world, This cold war will not help to solve major issues of world those are Poverty, illiteracy and Environment rather Huge budget allocations will go towards Arms race..

9/11 was a direct attack on democracy no matter the middle eastern policy at the time.

Sir, Do you think Democracy is so fragile that it will break up with attack of few extremists. I think the biggest threat to Democracy is accumulation of wealth in few hands, growing number of jobless people  and lack of justice in society.
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I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.



Pearl Harbor wasn't really an attack on our democracy since it was a preemptive strike.  Sure the axis powers were a major existential threat to our democracy, but there really wasn't any single attack you could point to that was a direct threat to our democracy.

911 maybe since it was more than just hitting a military base and DC was a target.

The point of the Jan 6 attack was to stop congress from certifying the result of the election, the foundation of our democracy - on the capital, during a joint session while the VP was present.  Other than an inaguration or SOTU when SCOTUS is also present, there is no bigger target.  It was a really big deal.


Pearl Harbor was an attack on the United States. It was an attack that Japan hoped would lead to the US falling to the Axis of evil. 9/11 was similarly an act of War against the United States, similar to Pearl Harbor was purported by far left terrorists extremists.

The Biden administration can only be described as extremist and radical. 
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I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.


The assailants brought out their big guns for the capital building 'attack':  In addition to the media assets and gas-light, this time they brought also their shofar.

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https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1387516729828548618/photo/1

I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.



Pearl Harbor wasn't really an attack on our democracy since it was a preemptive strike.  Sure the axis powers were a major existential threat to our democracy, but there really wasn't any single attack you could point to that was a direct threat to our democracy.

911 maybe since it was more than just hitting a military base and DC was a target.

The point of the Jan 6 attack was to stop congress from certifying the result of the election, the foundation of our democracy - on the capital, during a joint session while the VP was present.  Other than an inaguration or SOTU when SCOTUS is also present, there is no bigger target.  It was a really big deal.

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https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1387516729828548618/photo/1

I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.

WW2 wasn't an attack on our democracy, it was an attack on democratic powers of the world, more or less. The Cold War wasn't really an "attack." 9/11 certainly is up there on my list.

True. But I see WW2 as an indirect attack on American democracy, and perhaps the biggest threat to democracy at the time. Maybe some related WW2 events, Pearl Harbor is a better example as a direct attack. But Hitler's reign would have forced the Americans to join in the war at some point or another.

Sir, I think the major cause of  WW2 was Economic Depression in the late 1920s neither it was attack on Democracy or Major World Powers and 9/11 was also reaction of unjust policies of Western world in Middle East. Bin Laden was one of richest families in Saudi Arabia and he was creation of CIA during Afghan war but he turned against western powers when he realised that CIA used them to defeat Soviet Union and they didn't get anything out this Bloody war and unfortunately the world is again entering into Cold war era between USA and China which is not good for common people of the world, This cold war will not help to solve major issues of world those are Poverty, illiteracy and Environment rather Huge budget allocations will go towards Arms race..

9/11 was a direct attack on democracy no matter the middle eastern policy at the time.
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https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1387516729828548618/photo/1

I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.

WW2 wasn't an attack on our democracy, it was an attack on democratic powers of the world, more or less. The Cold War wasn't really an "attack." 9/11 certainly is up there on my list. The fact remains the attack on the capitol is pretty much unprecedented. It was the culmination of four years of empowerment of the hopelessly misled. So if anything it was more of an international embarrassment than an "attack." I mean, everybody involved should be completely embarrassed of themselves.

Sir, I think the major cause of  WW2 was Economic Depression in the late 1920s neither it was attack on Democracy or Major World Powers and 9/11 was also reaction of unjust policies of Western world in Middle East. Bin Laden was one of richest families in Saudi Arabia and he was creation of CIA during Afghan war but he turned against western powers when he realised that CIA used them to defeat Soviet Union and they didn't get anything out this Bloody war and unfortunately the world is again entering into Cold war era between USA and China which is not good for common people of the world, This cold war will not help to solve major issues of world those are Poverty, illiteracy and Environment rather Huge budget allocations will go towards Arms race..
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I don't know if I consider a bunch of overweight Trump supporters that couldn't spell "democracy" even if they tried to be the biggest attack on the world's largest democracy since the civil war. WW2 wasn't an attack on democracy? The Cold War? 9/11? I guess I rank these things just a tad bit higher than the capital riots.

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Probably the biggest reason for the great reset is this. All bank loans are really creations of new money, and not loans at all. As the people find out, they are ready to lynch a bunch of bankers and government officials. The reset will make the whole thing more difficult, because the damages done to people by the non-loans, will be covered up by a bunch of paperwork from the reset.

Google "Tom Schauf bank freedom" to see how you have been hurt by the banks with their fake non-loans.

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Those who avoid Gates' vaccine are the 'fittest' insofar as they are either of the predator caste, or are in some manner omnivorous (e.g., me).  The prey caste are the ones who will line up to get the vax almost by the definitions I use in this framing.  There is simply not a big use for them after the 'great reset'...so now it is time for them to go.

When is the "great reset" happening? I need to stock up on canned beans and other very manly things.

That's not clearly true.  Could be that your best course of action would be to relax and just let it roll over you since you probably won't make it anyway.

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Those who avoid Gates' vaccine are the 'fittest' insofar as they are either of the predator caste, or are in some manner omnivorous (e.g., me).  The prey caste are the ones who will line up to get the vax almost by the definitions I use in this framing.  There is simply not a big use for them after the 'great reset'...so now it is time for them to go.

When is the "great reset" happening? I need to stock up on canned beans and other very manly things.
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Imagine if that did happen and anti vaxxers were a majority of those who didn't die.  Would undo hundreds thousands of years of evolution in a couple months.


That is probably true.  Based on my experience, at least 95% of people alive today would not really stand a chance in the world of 2000 years ago either physically or mentally, and those who would line up to get the vax with the potential of knowing what is pretty much open-source information at this point are poster-children of the reasons why.

I don't disagree with the eugenicists who recognized that the coddled world 'we' gave 'them' as a result of the industrial revolution contributes to fairly rapid 'evolution', but it is effectively the same evolutionary mechanism that domestic canides and felids underwent.  That is to say, physical characteristics which are incompatible with independent living absent a robust safety net, an the mental characteristic of never obtaining full adult maturity.  Always dependent on a mother/father figure.  Modern 'leadership' is mostly about guiding the peeps to accept the state to fill this parental void.

Those who avoid Gates' vaccine are the 'fittest' insofar as they are either of the predator caste, or are in some manner omnivorous (e.g., me).  The prey caste are the ones who will line up to get the vax almost by the definitions I use in this framing.  There is simply not a big use for them after the 'great reset'...so now it is time for them to go.

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Tash your brain is gonna turn to mush if you keep clicking those links.

I think he's too far gone already. Only electing Trump again can fix Tash.

so true. Eventually will happen.

When, give us a date, so we can wait for it to happen. Tash has been pouting dates ever since, maybe its your turn

Biden doesn't mean much right now. Once the vaccine kills off half of Americans - by 2023 - the rest of them won't even have a thought about Bidden any longer.

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Imagine if that did happen and anti vaxxers were a majority of those who didn't die.  Would undo hundreds thousands of years of evolution in a couple months.

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