Topic: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms - page 4. (Read 2210 times)

I see from what happened between ukraine and russia is a humanitarian crisis...

I'm not defending the united states, it's just that what they are doing in afghanistan and syria is to fight the terrorists, if no one is against them then no other country cares about it. back to topic, i don't support any boycott aimed at gambling platforms from russia because they don't have any role in this war, they are also victims and to the putin dictatorship.

We're in very dangerous times right now and as you point out, even though Putin's approval rating looks high it is impossible to take any of these internal Russian polls seriously - it is effectively putting citizens on trial if they answer negatively about him. While I agree with all the action that has been taken against Russia so far and they are in for a whole world of economic pain, because they choose to invade then murder their neighbors, there are going to be long lasting repercussions that reverberate around the world. Russia has isolated itself through these terrible actions, but that makes it harder for Putin the fool to see a way out and might make him prone to even more dangerous actions - what a confusing situation we're left in.

Exactly the point I made here earlier, not everyone in Russia likes putin, and all this people own businesses, they are against what putin is doing but can't really do much other than to protest, and protesting also means risking their lives cus as @maestro75 said above, putin will not hesitate to go after anyone who will want to stand in his way, this man has also killed many Russians citizens if we begin to look deep into it.
This people are already suffering in the hands of putin and are forced to keep quiet, boycotting their businesses which is their only means of livelihood I still believe is not ideal, except we can identify those who are supporting putin, then this ones are the ones that really deserve the boycotting.

We can't really argue on what's the sentiment for now as it's likely the consensus of the majority but this whole thing will never end up if sanctions and boycotting techniques will just continue. I mean there's no end to this if this is the process, it will just create more chaos since some may not partly agree or disagree to what are others was doing, it will just create disharmony.

Right, when i heard this news i was also very disappointed as football is my favorite. And i think there should be no political affiliation with the sports/football. Most provably very popular football club owner Roman Abramovich also has been banned,  Maybe due to this reason he announced to sell this club to donate for Ukraine. 

This is exactly my concern, in Russia not everybody is supporting Putin. The official approval rate of Putin was around 70%, which is of course not a correct number. So even in the worst case 30% are not supporting Putin and will still be hit hard by the sanctions. It's easy for us from the West to say that people should stand up to Putin, even if that leads to getting beaten up and worst case spend 10 years in jail.
The billionaires and oligarchs still have most of their money in Russia, they might lose some yachts, international money and properties. But their lifestyle within Russia probably won't charge much. It's the average citizen that is hurting he most. And will the sanctions really help and make them stand up to Putin or will they get angry at the West instead? I think there is a big possibilities that the sanctions backfire and make more people angry against the West. Which will push Russia even further into a corner.
I am against this war and hope that the peace deals will lead to a ceasefire soon.

It makes sense to you because you do not own or run any business in Russia. Think beyond this and think of what those who do not like Putin but own businesses in Russia whose businesses are now sanctioned will be faced with now. Putin is a dictator despite that he was elected into office, and you think he will not go after anyone who will go on the streets to protest against him because of the imposed sanctions? That man is capable of killing anything that stands as barrier to him.

I don`t think that Russian people believe that their government blocked ApplePay (for example). Except rocket science there are other industries in that Russia as strong and it can become a problem to the West. But we can discuss for a long time and not come to a consensus, just after several months we will see who is right. So let`s wait and see.
So, i`m stop offtopic, let`s return to casinos.

The sanction would hurt the economy but if Russia had allied countries who can provide what they need, it shouldn't be a big problem. And besides, Russia before their action is surely studying the possible result already and because they did this, I would like to think that they are so ready with the outcome or whatever sanction they may have.

In the end, it's all about how the allies would help them as for sure those who help will also be sanctioned by big countries like the USA.

Also, don't forget that USA is not as powerful as they were before, we have big countries now like China who are competing globally.

Yes I believe that sanctions work. Sanctions are put in place to hurt the economy of a country. We could see the effect after USA announced the sanctions on Russia, the Rubel dropped 30% instantly. I am sure that if there were no sanctions on Iran or North Korea than their economy would be much stronger today. Just compare south and north Korea, one a free market capitalist country, the other one a closed of country. Sanctions prohibit companies to do business freely, there will also be a cost for the country that issues the sanctions.
The question is however, if the sanctions are helpful in changing the course of a country, or if they make things worse. In theory international sanctions reduce the economy, which in return should make its population unhappy to create pressure on the politicians to change their course. For some sanctions is this true, but if the sanctions become to severe it will create anger and resentment towards the foreign country. In Russia a few people decide the fate of the country, but with the sanctions all the people are hurting.

I find it really hard to believe that any country in this world is fully democratic! Governments do that, they are controlling everything everywhere, how they think it's the best for them and the group of people in power, and I am sure that all governments (with big help from all sorts of media) are painting the reality of their citizens!

Well, when bombs were dropping on my head nobody said that NATO is the aggressor, I knew some guys from football who died during that time, I was 15 years old! Nis Cluster Bombing
The bottom line, all aggressors should be treated equally, but that's not the case, is it!? My childhood was in wars and sanctions, unimaginable inflation, and all other bullshit that comes from that... Now I don't trust any government, I saw their evil face and I felt their wrath, in some way each of them is responsible for the big shit we have around the world with all the things they did or did not do!
And in the 21st-century people still choose sides, it doesn't seem to matter that we all know that nothing good will happen from evil things that are done, but people still choose to take a stone in their hand and shoot someone! As Putin cannot be reached (or other rulers, there are many of them that should be moved from their chair), let's target all the people around him, so they will turn against him?! So is that normal?! Is that how we should teach our children to be rude to vent their anger on everyone around them!? I refuse to be like that!

There are group of hackers are attacking there system so maybe this contribute on their decision to disconnect in the world. And I don't think this will really help because its like their citizen is slowly living like north korean life. Also they cannot boycott their government right now because Putin is so strict imposing the law which is favor to him. Maybe both countries should lower down their prides so that they can return back the freedom of each countries.

Well we should not forget that we are talking about sanctions of RUSSIAN GAMBLING PLATFORMS in the form of unstrategic and uncoordinated collective boycotts. It should bear reminding that even though sanctions can steer the people to go against their government, it can also have the reverse effect. Especially if you consider all the psychological propaganda that people are exposed to in Russia. Lets not underestimate what propaganda can do to the human mind.

But as I have already mentioned, this is about online gambling platforms. Which means this is a digital service. A digital service which can be sold under a different name under a different server.

How do you boycott an online gambling service?

It doesn't matter what I believe. I don't have the power to make such decisions.

As I have already said, the real sanctions against the Russian people will come not from the West but from their government and Putin's regime. This is not rocket science, people in the former Soviet Union lived in poverty and deprivation for decades. The Russians are a tough and capable people, but without the blessing of the international community, they will surely suffer more and more from the degeneration of the Russian economy.

I find it really hard to believe that Russia is a fully democratic system when everything there is controlled by the government,they even have a really big distort reality they live in their own fantasy there and tell their citizens a lot and I mean a lot of bullshit like they are going to save Ukraine when Ukraine does not at all need to be saved,by the way save from whom the nazi in the Russian government fantasy?

The sanctions will work but their effects will not be felt directly,they need time and I am sorry for Russian civilians but they choose their government and not anyone else if they are a "fully democratic country".The Russians hopefully will wake up when they see the effect of the sanctions and start a rage against Putin.

Exactly. Each country should be able to choose its own path. Even Ukraine, don't you think? Perhaps someone should tell that to Putin.
Using double standards and completely ignoring a country's and a people's right to choose their own path while giving examples that fit your theory is absurd.

Unless there is pressure from the relevant government on the casino provider, the casino provider will act. But as long as it's nothing, the casino provider will let the casino run and pass the taxes on to them.

Gambling is one of the businesses that currently looks promising, especially online gambling. During the pandemic, there is a possibility that the number of online gamblers will increase drastically because many of them cannot go to physical casinos. So they try to play gambling in online casinos.

The sanctions may affect the people because reducing or banning goods from entering Russia will become a problem for the people and they are forced to save money.

I don't know if Russia is a fully democratic system because I don't know life there. Maybe the sanctions can work but it is the people who suffer the most from the sanctions while the government and the political elite will not feel it too much. There is a possibility that it will trigger people to protest against his government because they live in misery.

I disagree with your ideas and asking for boycott of all Russian gambling platforms because is not any connected between war and gambling platform site, many people spent much money on Russian gambling platform site and they not care with war and never have Russian citizen looks agree with this war, I think have to make it different between gambling platform site and war, you looks as politician when mixing between war and gambling platform because all people try lucky with gambling and never car with politician situation around the world.

Not everyone knew that Russia is actually a democratic country and more than half I think are even Christians. And they are suffering not just because of their government's action but we sanctioned those Russian civilians like pushing them all to the wall. Its not working in the end because they will start enduring and work with the rest of the countries that are on their side like North Korea, India and China.

But who do you think will be able to say a country will need a democracy? 
What works in another country will not work for all because of the culture. North Korea had been that way for generations, the people there are used to it same with China or Iraq, or Libya.

The  two countries you made mentioned are two different things to be compare to Russia. First North Korea has been into autocratic system of government and with the fact that media and the west painting them red flags, half of the country haven't one day say they need democracy and so do Iran with theocracy where things might be hard for you to stay in.
Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest, those sanctions may not work Iran and North Korea but it will greatly have negative effects on Russians, Chelsea owner is facing the heat right now.