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Quote from: Daltonik on March 10, 2022, 08:54:45 AM

For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047

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Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia

Some sites are supporting the boycott while some will not.

Can we call this a sanction also? I mean, how would the site benefit from it, or will it call the attention of the Russian government?
This is just gambling, even if it's ban, they can live without it, the biggest sanction IMO is the economic sanction which I'm sure will result to struggle of their country.

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For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047

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Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 09, 2022, 06:55:28 PM

I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian.

I think the idea of boycotting Russian gambling platforms was to decrease income tax Russian Federal Reserve get. It would be logical, if all the taxes from gambling would got on military needs. But is not how real situation is.

I am not even sure, that all the casinos from the list on first page are registered on Russian territory. Maybe only part of them are. While the other is registered somewhere on Malta, BVI or Belize for example.

It would be fair to boycott national or state companies. But right now OP call to boycott random Russian gambling platform owners, random people.

Why not then boycott Russians famous vodka Stolichnaya? Russians do like vodka after all. But wait, Stolichnaya belongs to Stoli Group USA, LLC, New York, NY.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 09, 2022, 07:30:07 AM

Really? there are groups that offers payment for Russian to partake in Rallies conducted against the war in Ukraine?

Yes. I don`t know are it private persons, or groups but there are such offers.

Quote from: btc78 on March 09, 2022, 07:30:07 AM

but is that insane offer? 150$ if you are arrested? how much you need to pay for Bail if that happened? and you will have a record in which we don't want to have.

I don`t know. Several weeks ago, no money needed - those arrested were released after a few hours free of charge. Now new laws, may be smth changes, i wasn`t arrested, can say how is it now.

Quote from: btc78 on March 09, 2022, 07:30:07 AM

I thinkt here are other forces behind that offerings .

I don`t know because it doesn`t matter for me. It is small money, may be just for students it can be interesting.

I don`t want to know who does it, why, etc. Just information that i got by myself. You can get answers by yourself who does it, what purposes, etc.

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Quote from: bitcasinorank on March 02, 2022, 07:15:09 AM

Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms.

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

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I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian. But why didn't you include platforms like the famous russian blue and white exchange for example? AFAIK they're also russian and they are offering gambling games. You have some hidden specific criteria?
BTW several websites in your list are just mirrors of 1xbet.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 09, 2022, 05:20:17 PM

Quote from: dunfida on March 09, 2022, 05:10:44 PM

As an ordinary citizen then they wouldnt really be having any choice but to deal on what their Leader do make out decisions and these things would become even more worst as the war continue.
I wont blame out about those sanction decisions or boycotting or something because this just something an ethical to be done because of those bad decisions made out.

I think the overall goal of people pushing the "2 wrongs make a right" approach is to stop money flowing into Russia. They want to hurt Russian tax deposits, destroy their economy, and inflict pain on their politicians. Unfortunately, Putin is arguably the richest person on the planet (his real wealth dwarfs Elon Musk's). There is no hurting him financially in any meaningful way. The real losers are the citizens and it's sad. I'm not sure the right approach, and I'm not against boycotts of Russian gambling platforms. I just think people should consider the consequences of their actions to everyone effected. Many Russians don't care about Ukraine and just want to live life and be happy. I'm not sure what is expected from those people... Rioting in the streets I guess...

Maybe some Russian gambling platforms should come out and condemn the actions of their government? Would that then be reason to support them? Are any Russian companies doing this?

Most of their citizens doesnt really care about this invasive act made out by the government and no one really wants this for sure because they arent that blind on what would be the possible effects if countries around
would make out such sanctions which would result on having a very difficult lives in terms of different sections been excluded out due to the actions had been made.
As for companies or businesses then i dont see something that they could do if ever there would be some boycotts.They couldnt just try to take some actions against their government on whats happening.

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Quote from: dunfida on March 09, 2022, 05:10:44 PM

As an ordinary citizen then they wouldnt really be having any choice but to deal on what their Leader do make out decisions and these things would become even more worst as the war continue.
I wont blame out about those sanction decisions or boycotting or something because this just something an ethical to be done because of those bad decisions made out.

I think the overall goal of people pushing the "2 wrongs make a right" approach is to stop money flowing into Russia. They want to hurt Russian tax deposits, destroy their economy, and inflict pain on their politicians. Unfortunately, Putin is arguably the richest person on the planet (his real wealth dwarfs Elon Musk's). There is no hurting him financially in any meaningful way. The real losers are the citizens and it's sad. I'm not sure the right approach, and I'm not against boycotts of Russian gambling platforms. I just think people should consider the consequences of their actions to everyone effected. Many Russians don't care about Ukraine and just want to live life and be happy. I'm not sure what is expected from those people... Rioting in the streets I guess...

Maybe some Russian gambling platforms should come out and condemn the actions of their government? Would that then be reason to support them? Are any Russian companies doing this?

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Quote from: ultrloa on March 08, 2022, 07:33:02 PM

Quote from: dunfida on March 08, 2022, 06:44:08 PM

Quote from: cabron on March 08, 2022, 06:41:23 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on March 08, 2022, 06:17:40 AM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.

Coinbase is already blocking it out.
https://fortune.com/2022/03/07/coinbase-blocks-25000-crypto-wallets-russians-sanctions/

Any sector or industry would really be affected it might not be directly hurting the government but it would really give out pressure and big effect into its owners itself.

Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.

As an ordinary citizen then they wouldnt really be having any choice but to deal on what their Leader do make out decisions and these things would become even more worst as the war continue.
I wont blame out about those sanction decisions or boycotting or something because this just something an ethical to be done because of those bad decisions made out.

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Payment for participation in anti-war speeches?, I think now no one who has such an opportunity in Russia will go for it, for example, Deripaska openly declares that "We need peace, the sooner the better," but there are no organized rallies at his enterprises calling for stopping the war, although more recently he actively brought people to events to support Putin.

The only trigger for anti-war marches in Russia at the moment is precisely the opportunity for young people, having gone through repression against them, to get the opportunity for political asylum, but mostly of course people come out under the impression of the horror they are witnessing.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 09, 2022, 06:39:33 AM

Quote from: rodskee on March 09, 2022, 04:55:06 AM

Quote from: mak013 on March 09, 2022, 03:45:44 AM

Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.

I am interested in the Word "PAID BY/BE SOMEONE" meaning that some protesters are just paid participants and not truly concern about the situation? and who pays them? sorry but this is just a curiosity .

Yes, by, i made mistake. Yes, it does not matter for them about situation. I don`t know who pays but i`ve got 3 messages in my telegram with such offers, from $10 to $15 for 2 hours on such protest. If i would be arrested - + $150.

Really? there are groups that offers payment for Russian to partake in Rallies conducted against the war in Ukraine?

but is that insane offer? 150$ if you are arrested? how much you need to pay for Bail if that happened? and you will have a record in which we don't want to have.

I thinkt here are other forces behind that offerings .

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Quote from: mak013 on March 09, 2022, 03:45:44 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on March 08, 2022, 07:33:02 PM

Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.

Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.
2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.

Not everyone is paid to do such action since their are Russians highly condemn what their leader do to Ukraine we see this stuff over the news and many Russian citizens doesn't like this war actually. But if we talk outside of those conflicted country maybe you are right since provably their are some entities who just want to create noise over this issues and want to create commotion or want to voice out what they like to happen.

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Quote from: rodskee on March 09, 2022, 04:55:06 AM

Quote from: mak013 on March 09, 2022, 03:45:44 AM

Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.

I am interested in the Word "PAID BY/BE SOMEONE" meaning that some protesters are just paid participants and not truly concern about the situation? and who pays them? sorry but this is just a curiosity .

Yes, by, i made mistake. Yes, it does not matter for them about situation. I don`t know who pays but i`ve got 3 messages in my telegram with such offers, from $10 to $15 for 2 hours on such protest. If i would be arrested - + $150.

Quote from: rodskee on March 09, 2022, 04:55:06 AM

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2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.

there are many countries that already banned cryptocurrencies but there are still people on that region that keeps using crypto so meaning there are no complete banning at all.

I'll clarify what I mean: when any country ban all cryptocurrencies in this country - it is a problem with access and the law mostly. But now i see that one country ban and steal cryptocurrencies in another country - it means that there is no freedom and anonymity in cryptocurrencies.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 09, 2022, 03:45:44 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on March 08, 2022, 07:33:02 PM

Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.

Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.

I am interested in the Word "PAID BY/BE SOMEONE" meaning that some protesters are just paid participants and not truly concern about the situation? and who pays them? sorry but this is just a curiosity .

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2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.

there are many countries that already banned cryptocurrencies but there are still people on that region that keeps using crypto so meaning there are no complete banning at all.

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Quote from: ultrloa on March 08, 2022, 07:33:02 PM

Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.

Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid by someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.
2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.

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Quote from: dunfida on March 08, 2022, 06:44:08 PM

Quote from: cabron on March 08, 2022, 06:41:23 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on March 08, 2022, 06:17:40 AM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.

Coinbase is already blocking it out.
https://fortune.com/2022/03/07/coinbase-blocks-25000-crypto-wallets-russians-sanctions/

Any sector or industry would really be affected it might not be directly hurting the government but it would really give out pressure and big effect into its owners itself.

Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.

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Quote from: cabron on March 08, 2022, 06:41:23 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on March 08, 2022, 06:17:40 AM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.

Coinbase is already blocking it out.
https://fortune.com/2022/03/07/coinbase-blocks-25000-crypto-wallets-russians-sanctions/

Any sector or industry would really be affected it might not be directly hurting the government but it would really give out pressure and big effect into its owners itself.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on March 08, 2022, 06:17:40 AM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.

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Why would the author of the thread not create a vote where everyone could express their opinion and cast their vote for or against, it was interesting to see how the votes would be distributed and it would be visible, so to speak, clearly the general opinion on this issue, and in general there is an outright scam among Russian gambling platforms, including.

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Quote from: bitcasinorank on March 02, 2022, 07:15:09 AM

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

1xBet
1xBit

It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.

Agree. I have read so many posts regarding these sites because of the things they do such as frauds and most the time, they get off the hook. I don't know why, but it seems that they always do given the numerous times they have been reported and posted. I just hope that people would be more knowledgeable about these sites to avoid being scammed their hard earned money. After all, no one deserves being stolen their funds away from them. These kind of sites should be stopped in operating to avoid further victims and damages. Just imagine the stress and anxiety of the people they have victimized. The worry, time, and effort of those people were all put to waste. Do not patronize these kind of sites because they take advantage of their users. They shouldn't be worthy to exist in the first place.

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you should give this thread to the first one who create the same issue and just let Him edit the OP and put the list you given here.

will this really affect Russia? but of course this is a good initiative to at least we can contribute in our own little way.

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