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Could the OP explain what is the purpose of the boycott?

Because if the goal is to cut off the flow of money to finance the war in Ukraine (of course I support it), in my opinion boycotting a company registered in Cyprus does not make sense, because their money does not go to Russia.

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"1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

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Quote from: Maestro75 on March 06, 2022, 01:37:32 AM

Now I know the reason why 1xbit is stubborn and refusing to stop its scams. It is acting stubborn like the country where it operates. I never knew it was a Russian betting site. Like stubborn Putin like 1xbit. No one should expect any change of attitude from it. This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

I think we should boycott these business not based not their nationality but on their bad business practices. So, while I support to boycott 1xbit for being a shitty casino, I can't support the idea just because they are Russians. Did they do the invading? No. Why would I care about their nationality then? If they provide an honest service, they shouldn't have anything to fear.

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Russian gambling site list is so long. Although i am not familiar with those of sites without 1xbet. I don’t know by boycotting these gambling sites, who will be benefited or the war will be end? Because if somehow stop those sites many users will be affected not only Russian users. And those sites are developed by some of peoples money not government (Putin) own money.

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Now I know the reason why 1xbit is stubborn and refusing to stop its scams. It is acting stubborn like the country where it operates. I never knew it was a Russian betting site. Like stubborn Putin like 1xbit. No one should expect any change of attitude from it. This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

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Quote from: decodx on March 05, 2022, 06:52:59 AM

Now, it is in your hands to decide on your strategy and to make yourself heard. Don't sit back and do nothing, but try to do something in any way you can.

You are clearly stating the obvious. I am not thinking of any particular strategy and I certainly don't care about making myself heard. Different people -> Different opinions basically.

Boycotting Russian stuff could help to some extent, but I don't expect it to help end the war. Honestly, Putin probably planned around all of these obstacles for several years before launching his attack.

The only way this war will end is if Putin isn't the President anymore or if he dies or if Ukraine surrenders in my opinion.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on March 05, 2022, 07:53:54 AM

Quote from: bitcasinorank on March 02, 2022, 07:15:09 AM

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I would just like to remind everyone that boycotting these sites would not necessarily make the Russia's economy crash, only the business of the owners will be at stake. And certainly not all of these business owners want war and conflict. I believe it would be the opposite because they know their livelihood would be damaged and affected once their country will be involved in a war, much more initiate it.

It would be futile for them to support war because the impact of it on their income genarator would be massive as well. Only the elites and those who have the motive to be mad and to benefit from it will want that. It would be better if we'll do an in-depth research to know if the owners are supporting or anti-war. Then we should decide from there which sites to boycott and which don't deserve it. I guess that would be much appropriate.

You are right - but we cannot stay numb pretending nothing has happened. The stakeholders contributes to the economy of the nation this way or the way. The Russian economy has collapse by 98% which is worse than what happened to Russian in 1998 which it hit to 94% the government dissolved and the whole economy collapsed. The super power know should know that they do not have a license to attack any country when they feel like testing their new weapons and they are unhappy with weakest nation.

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Quote from: uneng on March 04, 2022, 02:30:41 PM

Quote from: blockman on March 04, 2022, 05:41:12 AM

I'm only familiar with two of them the gg.bet and pnxbet.com for esports. I didn't know that they're russian based. Anyway, as people boycott all of them or not, as long as I'm not even using it, can it be considered as boycotting or just ignoring them?

Probably ignoring would be the most accurate term, since you have been doing this since always.

That's fine I guess if you want to join the collective boycotting of those casinos. You don't have to actually do anything as that's what boycotting exactly means right?
But for the scam casinos that has been mentioned, they should really be ignored for so long as long as they have not resolved those scam accusations that was placed after them.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 04, 2022, 09:43:45 PM

It's best to consider sanctions that screw Putin and cause minimal damage to the Russian public.

Unfortunately, only putin being sanctioned don't matter at all, it always be "Russia" it's government and unfortunately, its people. Normal citizens struggle the most because the war they didn't want, (obviously they're against it, affects their daily lives. But ofc ukranians struggle the most but its same story with different approach.

About the boycotts because of war, I'll be neutral for this, I see no reason to boycott these companies, unless they're a government-owned, they are also victims here, nobody wants war.

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Quote from: macson on March 05, 2022, 11:54:34 AM

Quote from: mak013 on March 05, 2022, 03:59:54 AM

And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.

let me answer from my point of view, of course the boycott will not work to make the war stop. Since the beginning, Putin didn't care about his citizens, so that's why he should care about the business that his citizens are doing. if putin is stubborn then removing Putin from the presidency is the best solution but it takes hard work and also great unity from the Russian people.

It has no impact on economy but solidarity.
As I see no one can resign the president,which is the longest serving one,because I have never heard about expressed oppositions if we don't count navalni which is in prison now. but who knows, lets see what will happen in Russia.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 05, 2022, 03:59:54 AM

And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.

let me answer from my point of view, of course the boycott will not work to make the war stop. Since the beginning, Putin didn't care about his citizens, so that's why he should care about the business that his citizens are doing. if putin is stubborn then removing Putin from the presidency is the best solution but it takes hard work and also great unity from the Russian people.

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Quote from: saxydev on March 02, 2022, 07:24:27 AM

SlotV, FrankCasino and Mrbit are owned by the same company and they have on of the best responsible gambling attitudes from the internet; these are my favourite casinos who are more than fair, welcoming and respectful for their users. What about no.!?

This post is more of a movement towards not supporting gambling websites hosted by Russian online gambling websites. Again, no one is forcing you to decide on such- if you feel like the websites you mentioned are relatively fair and easy to use then feel free to use it.

Again, this is considered a movement against Russia due to the war ongoing with Ukraine. No one will judge you in this forum but it is somehow pleasing to see such collective movement in not supporting anything handled by Russian oligarchs.

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Quote from: bitcasinorank on March 02, 2022, 07:15:09 AM

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I would just like to remind everyone that boycotting these sites would not necessarily make the Russia's economy crash, only the business of the owners will be at stake. And certainly not all of these business owners want war and conflict. I believe it would be the opposite because they know their livelihood would be damaged and affected once their country will be involved in a war, much more initiate it.

It would be futile for them to support war because the impact of it on their income genarator would be massive as well. Only the elites and those who have the motive to be mad and to benefit from it will want that. It would be better if we'll do an in-depth research to know if the owners are supporting or anti-war. Then we should decide from there which sites to boycott and which don't deserve it. I guess that would be much appropriate.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on March 02, 2022, 10:08:22 AM

What I want to ask is, if this boycott is successful, will it affect the peace between Russia and Ukraine...!

Probably it can somehow affect the peace between the two countries, not directly though. Think of it, if Russian online casino has been successfully boycotted by the gambling community, the tax/revenue that the government are getting from these casinos (Players/owners) will be lessen. Funds less, less armory, etc. That is if Russian government is getting something from Russian casino owners. Or if they are being taxed. If no, probably it won't have any effect on the peace between Ukraine and Russia.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 04, 2022, 09:43:45 PM

The primary issue here is that many people around the world are pissed with Russians just because of Putin, but this doesn't imply that all Russian citizens support his decision.

If that were the case, we wouldn't see some of them protesting on the roads against their own President knowing the risks involved. It's best to consider sanctions that screw Putin and cause minimal damage to the Russian public.

You can decide whether or not to boycott a particular casino. It's an individual decision. As we can see, many companies around the world are withdrawing their services and products from the Russian market and expressing public protest against the aggression. I don't think it's directed against the Russian people specifically, but rather against Putin and his policies, which are morally revolting. I've never been a particularly political person, but I have two feelings about this: first, we should learn from history and try not to repeat the same mistakes; second, we should support all these decisions that protect the lives and safety of all people on the planet.

Now, it is in your hands to decide on your strategy and to make yourself heard. Don't sit back and do nothing, but try to do something in any way you can.

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Quote from: mak013 on March 05, 2022, 03:59:54 AM

And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.

I just saw the tweet of Mykhailo Fedorov ( Ukraine Minister of Inf Tech) he mentioned that there is $50M raise in crypto in a week to support Ukraine.
The Minister is sure that they will reach to $100M in this week, and I am sure they will rise from the ashes very soon. I am very touched to see how people of Ukraine are fighting in limited resources. On the other Russian economy collapsed and yet they have a lot more to see in the days to come

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And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.

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I don't think there's a need to boycott the good ones? Maybe if you found a connection to them agreeing to the war or being pro for it, then yea sure let's all go for it, but if not then it's simply attacking the wrong side imo. Russian citizens/business owners are becoming victims of the current situation with these kinds of boycotts when they could've been prevented instead. I don't think we need to add more people to the list of victims. Probably help in trying to support Ukrainian citizens instead tbh.

Ofc, what I said doesn't include casinos that are inherently scammy or have a bad reputation. Even without the Ukraine Russia issue, those should've been boycotted long ago.

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Quote from: Ulven on March 04, 2022, 07:34:00 PM

Your list has sites that deserve to be boycotted due to its bad reputation. As for the Ukraine crisis with Russia, I do not think that imposing sanctions on Russia would be the most appropriate solution. Rather, other peaceful ways must be sought that satisfies both parties in order to resolve the conflict without bloodshed and the return of water to its courses. I hope to see this is not a war between two countries, but rather a mutual understanding and peace.

Most of the list of casinos in the OP aren't that good and popular so it's looks like it's being boycott in the first place. Some of these casinos really have bad reputation especially 1xbit. Always hoping they'll come up with peaceful resolution, most of the people around the world does.

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I disagree with your ideas and asking for boycott of all Russian gambling platforms because is not any connected between war and gambling platform site, many people spent much money on Russian gambling platform site and they not care with war and never have Russian citizen looks agree with this war, I think have to make it different between gambling platform site and war, you looks as politician when mixing between war and gambling platform because all people try lucky with gambling and never car with politician situation around the world.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on March 04, 2022, 06:42:07 PM

As much as i hate what Russia is doing, banning every single company and product just because it is operated by Russians is a different thing.
We should see a difference between:
a casino located in Russia and operated by Russians
a casino operated by non-Russians, just registered in Russia
a casino that uses Russian servers, but is not located nor operated by Russians
a casino that is operated by Russians living abroad, registered and taxed outside Russia

Which one of the above would you boycott?

Exactly. The primary issue here is that many people around the world are pissed with Russians just because of Putin, but this doesn't imply that all Russian citizens support his decision.

If that were the case, we wouldn't see some of them protesting on the roads against their own President knowing the risks involved. It's best to consider sanctions that screw Putin and cause minimal damage to the Russian public.

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