Topic: Jr BM asking for 300 positive comment in his service thread via bounty campaign. - page 2. (Read 691 times)
April 14, 2023, 11:31:51 AM
I also checked this after bounty launch. Review is not bad but he made a mistake that Jr BM make it mandatory task for positive review. may i ask is someone Jr BM about this that its against the rule of this forum. I think he is not aware of it. some signature bounty also has this task but you they make it optional which is not bad. Everyone is free to give review and can be negative also. i checked his Service Thread and new members make one line post which made his thread full of spam.
April 14, 2023, 10:48:42 AM
The man pmed me and share the topic link and ask ''what is this?''. I told him that it was not good what he did, so learn from here and be stronger next time. Later he told me about helping him withdraw the ban (he told me he was banned for 30 days). As usual, I have said him that I can not help in this case but I suggested him do a ban appeal in the Meta section. But I was surprised he was asking for the Link of the Meta section.
And he has the nerve to become a campaign manager, it's not only him there are a lot of newbies who are involved in bounty campaigns that do not know the rules all they know is the bounties section because they can make money here and ignore the other sections of Bitcointalk.
I call these members nuisance members because they do not care about the health of this forum, and they do not contribute.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1189
Need Campaign Manager?PM on telegram @sujonali1819
April 14, 2023, 08:04:39 AM
The man pmed me and share the topic link and ask ''what is this?''. I told him that it was not good what he did, so learn from here and be stronger next time. Later he told me about helping him withdraw the ban (he told me he was banned for 30 days). As usual, I have said him that I can not help in this case but I suggested him do a ban appeal in the Meta section. But I was surprised he was asking for the Link of the Meta section.
April 14, 2023, 05:06:02 AM
For me it's strange, how someone can think that buying such fake reviews can be good idea. Especially when these reviews looks so fake and don't bring any credibility to manager. It actually just damage his reputation.
He has no reputation, so there's nothing to damage 
People have been buying fake reviews everywhere, and indeed, it's usually very obvious when there's a large number of positive reviews in a short period of time, and nothing afterwards. Let's put is this way: people doing this aren't the brightest.So, to summarize: Jr BM now has 6 Posts, 6 Activity, 0 Merit, and 6 neutral tags from DT
That took skill 
April 14, 2023, 03:54:16 AM
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OP did, fortunately. So future BM-wannabe could learn from their mistake. This one is the archived service ann thread which meant to be "reviewed", this one is the bounty thread.
Great! maybe for a future reference or it the Jr BM comes with another formats of promotions,
I was weak seeing that Jr BM went ahead doing such a thing although i don't know them emparticular, but has soiled managerial principles across the forum. That notwithstanding i believe no upcoming managers would do that anymore.
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode?
You can see all posts from this topic scrapped on loyce.club website https://loyce.club/archive/topics/544/5448486.htmlThank you sir!
April 13, 2023, 05:43:59 PM
For me it's strange, how someone can think that buying such fake reviews can be good idea. Especially when these reviews looks so fake and don't bring any credibility to manager. It actually just damage his reputation. Im wondering how much he was ready to pay for each review.
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode?
You can see all posts from this topic scrapped on loyce.club website https://loyce.club/archive/topics/544/5448486.html April 13, 2023, 01:49:41 PM
Can't that be dealt through reporting?
I think so: it's not allowed to give an incentive to post. Although there have been exceptions in the form of review campaigns, in this case it's just spam. And since it's paid in altcoins, it's a giveaway that's not allowed. I've reported both topics.He also says the campaign is escrowed, by his own team. Lol.
All accounts that commented or part took in the task risk being banned from the forum. And and I hope there will also be some sorts of
punishment for the bounty manager.
April 13, 2023, 01:42:41 PM
Oh shit!
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode?
For a bounty manager to source for a review from participants is purely not acceptable maybe if anyone gives him or them a review it should be that they are satisfied with his job or something worth reviewing for than just imposing hunters to give them a positive review on the service thread.
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode?
For a bounty manager to source for a review from participants is purely not acceptable maybe if anyone gives him or them a review it should be that they are satisfied with his job or something worth reviewing for than just imposing hunters to give them a positive review on the service thread.
OP did, fortunately. So future BM-wannabe could learn from their mistake. This one is the archived service ann thread which meant to be "reviewed", this one is the bounty thread.
Oh, what will happen now if lovesmayfamilis finds out about this.
lovesmayfamilis. lovesmayfamilis! I call you
Okay, joke on this topic for the last time.
For today.
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lovesmayfamilis. lovesmayfamilis! I call you
Okay, joke on this topic for the last time.
For today. [...]
I LOLed.
Looks like the conflict ends with mod --I assume-- deleted the thread. Their TG is still flooded with fake reviews, tshough. I'm not really sure what's on Jr BM's mind by having this bounty, even the most clueless project would questions how and why did their service ann thread suddenly got a lot of praises and good testimonies in one day. I would like to think they're simply naïve, and thus will leave a neutral feedback referencing to this issue instead of a negative one.
April 13, 2023, 11:56:01 AM
Oh, what will happen now if lovesmayfamilis finds out about this.
lovesmayfamilis. lovesmayfamilis! I call you
Okay, joke on this topic for the last time. For today.
"Write a positive comment on our service thread" - There is nothing good in this. I would understand Jr BM's intentions if he indicated to leave comments based on personal impressions, that is, truthful ones, but here he clearly focuses on "positive" comments. Which, in fact, are paid false reviews.
For a similar community doen't leave unpunished (everything has already been said in Jr BM's trust). This is a reminder to those who want to repeat something similar.
lovesmayfamilis. lovesmayfamilis! I call you
Okay, joke on this topic for the last time.
For today. "Write a positive comment on our service thread" - There is nothing good in this. I would understand Jr BM's intentions if he indicated to leave comments based on personal impressions, that is, truthful ones, but here he clearly focuses on "positive" comments. Which, in fact, are paid false reviews.
For a similar community doen't leave unpunished (everything has already been said in Jr BM's trust). This is a reminder to those who want to repeat something similar.
April 13, 2023, 11:27:28 AM
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Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819.
I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the threads. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well?
This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more):
Code:
Jr BM
Mst09
Biddutbam
Adeel_shahzad
Ahmad_pk0092
JANUS23
Makisha99
younas@76872
Brigoldonor
Arshman392
Fahmeed_siddiqui
Kashif60508
Relief33
SPARE
M__SUFYAN
Robin961219##
Cutfish28
Emmadelatim
Robicrypto
Kola10@
Khdotsh
AliRazatitok
Tauhid2035
Mst09
Biddutbam
Adeel_shahzad
Ahmad_pk0092
JANUS23
Makisha99
younas@76872
Brigoldonor
Arshman392
Fahmeed_siddiqui
Kashif60508
Relief33
SPARE
M__SUFYAN
Robin961219##
Cutfish28
Emmadelatim
Robicrypto
Kola10@
Khdotsh
AliRazatitok
Tauhid2035
I like the fact that the thread is deleted and Jr BM has been given a neutral feedback for his unprofessional attitude as a bounty manager
April 13, 2023, 10:50:07 AM
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There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.
He only asked for a positive review so that could fall under incentivized posting and there is already an existing and an even older rule that covers that so that's not really a loophole. The BM was just careless and didn't read or bother to ask before posting the rules of his $3 giveaway.There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.
Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.
Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.
Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.
April 13, 2023, 10:19:29 AM
Oh shit!
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode?
For a bounty manager to source for a review from participants is purely not acceptable maybe if anyone gives him or them a review it should be that they are satisfied with his job or something worth reviewing for than just imposing hunters to give them a positive review on the service thread.
What a mess, I tried clicking on the service thread and was deleted already, I was hoping you archived it before final deletion from mode?
For a bounty manager to source for a review from participants is purely not acceptable maybe if anyone gives him or them a review it should be that they are satisfied with his job or something worth reviewing for than just imposing hunters to give them a positive review on the service thread.
April 13, 2023, 10:02:37 AM
The service thread has already been deleted by moderators. Jr BM has tried to collaborate by rectifying his mistake, but even so, the way he started is a botched job that makes me wonder if he is not really 16 years old. I wouldn't hire him at all.
April 13, 2023, 08:57:17 AM
There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.
This is financially incentivized spam, similar to giveaway threads, which are banned on the forum. You can about it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-threads-are-not-allowed-434310
Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads.
April 13, 2023, 08:34:58 AM
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He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?
to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?
That... is what "optional" means, people are not obligated to give positive review to get rewards.
@OP, sorry for derailing the thread.
April 13, 2023, 07:54:08 AM
There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.
You call it. These are guidelines.
IMHO, it's not a loophole. It's common sense that asking for fake positive (!) reviews is highly untrustworthy and therefore should be punished by the community. At least with a neutral tag, to let others know.
Same goes for the accounts that post fake positive one-liner reviews for a few bucks. Even though they never dealt with the service before.
I call this bribing to build his reputation, that bounty managers do not know how to use plain common sense how can he say that he is a trusted manager or can be trusted to run a campaign when he paid for his reputation, even if the guidelines don't have that, it's on your character not to bribe people to praise you and make you appear a good manager.
You can compare it to an election the bounty manager is vote buying, so we can easily say that he is a corrupt bounty manager.
April 13, 2023, 07:42:01 AM
There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.
You call it. These are guidelines.
IMHO, it's not a loophole. It's common sense that asking for fake positive (!) reviews is highly untrustworthy and therefore should be punished by the community. At least with a neutral tag, to let others know.
Same goes for the accounts that post fake positive one-liner reviews for a few bucks. Even though they never dealt with the service before.
April 13, 2023, 07:37:36 AM
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Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819.
I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the thread. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well?
This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more):
There is nothing mentioned on Signature Campaign Guidelines about what a BM can do and what he cannot. Unless the rules are amended it is ok for him to ask for reviews. I say he found a loophole and he is using it.
There are a few BM who have the habit of being on the wrong side for god knows what reason. I think this rule needs to be amended as it has been 7 years now.
April 13, 2023, 07:24:21 AM
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Thanks for bringing the threads to our attention @sujonali1819.
I already left a (neutral) feedback and reported the threads. Shouldn't we tag the spam accounts that post meaningless one-liners as well?
This is a first list of accounts (but, I am sure there are more):
Code:
Jr BM
Mst09
Biddutbam
Adeel_shahzad
Ahmad_pk0092
JANUS23
Makisha99
younas@76872
Brigoldonor
Arshman392
Fahmeed_siddiqui
Kashif60508
Relief33
SPARE
M__SUFYAN
Robin961219##
Cutfish28
Emmadelatim
Robicrypto
Kola10@
Khdotsh
AliRazatitok
Tauhid2035
April 13, 2023, 07:01:50 AM
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He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?
to be honest I don't think it is and I think he just worded it poorly or he shouldn't have said optional. but if you ask me they should have just said that they wouldn't obligate people who review their service to give a positive review in order to get a reward(just like how some review campaign I saw).He says will make it as optional will this be okay or still some kind of positive farming involved in this?
That... is what "optional" means, people are not obligated to give positive review to get rewards.
On their last post, Jr BM said they will remove that "write review" part completely, as per OP's suggestion. Let's see if they'll remove it or not later today. If they didn't, I might consider leaving a neutral to negative tag under the reason that their action --asking for fake review-- is questionable, dishonest, and borderline untrustworth.
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