Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 1027. (Read 5352445 times)

Waking up to a block in the tank and a couple of payouts!

Now where is that coffee

Yeah I mentioned about that earlier, the Bitmain code throws away the stale shares rather than letting cgminer decide based on cgminer settings.
Yes bmminer is still cgminer, but that link shows the nightmare of code they do to a share returned from the miner before passing it back to the main cgminer code to deal with it.
 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18083086
but specifically:
 https://github.com/bitmaintech/bmminer/blob/master/driver-btm-c5.c#L7887
So it's just hiding most of them.

Look at that luck.
Last 50 Blocks   6.2wks   106.13%   116.09%
I hope you are sitting back grinning Kano

A bit older topic but I also noticed higher pool side rejects with the Avalons, though they hash higher than advertised in a good environment so doesn't really hurt my feelings.
But is there a way to get this number down perhaps?
Meanwhile pretty much all my Antminer gear after a few weeks loses 5-10% hashrate until a reboot, but almost no invalids (S7 and S9s) which is odd given I'd assume they have crappy everything compared to Avalon's setup.

Block! by cobramining
A7v1

I was making a general statement about not getting payouts everyday - Meaning no one else in the pool is getting paid out either until a block is found

Anyways like i said im new LOL 

Ill go back to lurking in the shadows

What bad luck is that?
The last 50 blocks (6 weeks) miners have averaged 116% PPS.
The last 100 (almost 8 weeks) miners have averaged 106% PPS.

Hello Everyone,

New Miner here! Just wanted to say hi!

I started at slush and ended up here - At first i missed the daily payouts until i read what Kano said "it has nothing to do with Bitcoin" I also started around the Mr 415% so i was feeling the "missed payments" but after reading alot in this forum i have decided to stay and keep trucking through 

Besides for the new people its not just YOU having bad luck.... its everyone else too.

Yes a share is worth less after a diff change.
If the 5ND after the share, crosses a diff change, that reduces the expected reward of a share, since there's no extra BTC lying around unclaimed.
The only way to apply more BTC to those old shares would be to take it away from the new shares i.e. no.

Thus yes the N in PPLNS does affect the reward of shares, if their reward cross a difficulty boundary - the same for all miners on the pool.

Thanks for chiming in!
For clarity: Is a share not worth less after a diff increase, as more shares are now required to find a block? Or are you saying that that share is weighed according to the diff at the time it was submitted and thus worth the same amount of relative pool hash power irrespective of a what the current diff is as compared to the diff at the time of submission? Am I expressing myself clearly?

What actually happens is that each share you submit (as the web page says) is rewarded in all blocks in the 5Nd after it.
So basically, it takes 5Nd to get rewarded.
It has nothing to do with a lower reward for your work.
When you have 5Nd worth of shares, then you always have a full set of shares to be rewarded.
It has no possible expected effect on your reward at all.
It's simply to do with reducing reward variance (by stretching out the reward time)

this pool is not going to attract newbies.

5n
block by block payouts
no auto withdrawal
no set limit payout.

all of the above simply won't work for a new guy that purchased a 1500 dollar s-9 and a 200 dollar psu.

they say I am down 1700 usd I want steady money back now.

thus f2poo it is for them

if they  make back some money and see btc is not going poof maybe then they will come here.

I think any perceived disadvantage of 5Nd is minimal. Right now the 5Nd is ~106 hours. It changes with hashrate +/- and difficulty. I don't think the current time span is all that much, unless difficulty is making a huge jump (>10%).

We all went through it.

I think what really hurts is the lessened hash rate that adds to the variance. And I don't think we are all that newbie friendly. Though everyone here is helpful to the max, I think a lot of times we talk over their heads. They come here for a few days don't get the quickfix payouts they got at a larger pool.

Anyone willing to chime in on whether newbies starting out are disadvantaged compared to someone who has already "filled" the 5Nd window or not due to upcoming diff increases? Thanks.

Random noise and statistics. There is no pattern no matter how much we would like to believe there is one 

scraped from found blocks on webpage 

This is getting twisted...

I was responding to people complaining about the pool size and how they have to wait for the pool to find a block that confirms their pending payouts.  I was saying I like how the pool works, and I think waiting a day or two shouldn't really be an issue for people.  Yes, I know people are impatient, but mining takes time.  You buy equipment that will take 6 months ~ a year to just pay for itself, so waiting a couple of days for payouts shouldn't be an issue for people.  

I was not suggesting that Kano build something that pays out when people request the payments.  He doesn't want the responsibility of holding on to the coins and I 100% understand this.  I am sure for him the safest coins are ones he has already sent and he no longer controls.

As other people have mentioned, you can use something like Coinbase or Blockchain.info to consolidate your small payments and then withdrawal from there occasionally (rather than have Kano build this functionality).  I personally have not done this, but I don't think they charge fees to send coins with lots of inputs (last I checked at least they didn't).

Sorry for any confusion, at the time it was in response to people saying the pool is smaller than they want.  However, that chatter died off and it got changed into I was requesting a daily payout feature/consolidating payouts.  Sorry for any missing clarity on my part!

OK...without the 27 quotes...

I was REALLY unclear about what I was trying to say...so apologies, and a couple of you got me to look at it at least.

The thought that came to me at the time (and I was not really awake) was the complaining about so long between blocks, and of waiting for payout until the next post-confirmation block is found. That's all.

If the payouts came daily (but that won't always happen, will it?) but were detailed as to which block rewards it was paying, I'd be fine with that. Bottom line with me is that I DO trust the op, and like the way he runs things...I think a lot more than many folks here. If I didn't I wouldn't be here.

Teaches me to not try to post any cogent thought at 0600 local with no sleep in the past 20 hrs, and even coffee isn't enough then.

 

Really? If you normally 5 small payments per day, but consolidate them into one payment per day then thats going to be a single larger payment surely The frequency of payments in this example is directly correlated to the size of payment.

Thanks for clarifying your stance, I'm not having a go, just that you surprised me as your normal position is one of someone who likes the way things work here, but your first sentence is agreeing with the OP saying that they'd rather have one payout per day rather than lots of small payouts.

Gotcha.
Didn't look/know who runs it and ja I fully understand given the History between you 2

Check your clocks
The lower left on the web page is always correct

Shifts show "Start Time", so the last shift "Start Time" will be between "Length"+13 and 2xMax+13 minutes behind the UTC time.
2xMax = ~100