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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 1307. (Read 5352420 times)

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as an aside  here is out recent peak 100 block day


1151   419819   Ste2.HASH   25.07807506   2016‑07‑08 10:36:46     Matured            13,145,711,321        6.160%   0.060   118.81%   

right after the block above  we had 3 terrible blocks


86 blocks later and we have quite a hit

1237   423063   azazle.azkano1   12.84532430   2016‑07‑31 20:22:28   +1 Confirms   ~14,408,042,896   ~6.749%   0.065   ~93.38%   
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Another Block by azazle!  Holy crap!  Cheesy Cheesy

A GREEN BLOCK! Holy Moly!  Cheesy
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Another Block by azazle!  Holy crap!  Cheesy Cheesy

It's the same worker name, I wonder if it is the same device.  That would be pretty damn odds defying.
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Another Block by azazle!  Holy crap!  Cheesy Cheesy
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Well, we just got a BLOCK!  Smiley

Not a pretty color, but a block none the less.

Man, our luck % from 5 blocks through 100 sure has taken a hit!  Sad

Good job azazle!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block!  Cheesy Cheesy
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I am not sure if I am running plainly ignorant here...

I thought someone with modest networking knowledge can monitor traffic with the miner on their router. The things I don't know about is for mining software (i.e. cgminer) at a minimum level how many servers does it require to interact with?

For example, if my miner is mining at kano.is, is kano pool's ip the only destination i should expect to see? I may be oversimplifying the case because miner has 3 pools for backup so it should periodically test 3 connections.

If someone can shed some lights on this then maybe i can start spying my S9 a bit, if it would even help sway away the concerns that S9's are evil.
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Well, we just got a BLOCK!  Smiley

Not a pretty color, but a block none the less.

Man, our luck % from 5 blocks through 100 sure has taken a hit!  Sad
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So, the next day that Kano.is pool finds 6 blocks (and 2 of them are found with S9s), does that mean that the "nefarious" miners failed to do their job? Undecided

Or their miners are off the pool...

I don't care what people quote in regards to 'luck' and statistics. It's simple to notice when you have normal to good luck for very long time, then when large PH accounts via rentals arrive, the luck goes to hell. They go away and we're back to normal to good luck again. It's been repeated numerous times since we've been over 25PH.
Heck we had IMO better and more stable expected daily blocks at that level than since it's been over. In a way I'd rather we've be back at that hash rate.

I'm still riding this bad luck as we're at 4-5blocks behind since the last 2 high-block days from the 16th, but not sure how long I can stay optimistic.


Yes and if you were block withholding you wouldnt do it straight to the pool. You would hide it from them by going thru nicehash.. And also you would not exp the bad luck as nicehash pays per share.. OUCH

maybe a temp ban of all rentals.. I mean they can use other sites to rent against. Most that rent here are only gambling by trying their luck at making back more then spent on rental. SOO to eliminate that possiblity just get rid of it.. then the block WH would have to point straight to pool .> Which would then be obvious  as kano should be keeping close eye on accounts about right now

Best regards
d57heinz


EDIT  i would be real curious if ck has any stats on his pool.. esp the bdr or luck of his pool   That pool is mostly rentals thrown at it.. be an interesting stat im sure  Wink
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So, the next day that Kano.is pool finds 6 blocks (and 2 of them are found with S9s), does that mean that the "nefarious" miners failed to do their job? Undecided

Or their miners are off the pool...

I don't care what people quote in regards to 'luck' and statistics. It's simple to notice when you have normal to good luck for very long time, then when large PH accounts via rentals arrive, the luck goes to hell. They go away and we're back to normal to good luck again. It's been repeated numerous times since we've been over 25PH.
Heck we had IMO better and more stable expected daily blocks at that level than since it's been over. In a way I'd rather we've be back at that hash rate.

I'm still riding this bad luck as we're at 4-5blocks behind since the last 2 high-block days from the 16th, but not sure how long I can stay optimistic.


It appears to me that our "best luck" range was in the 43-44PH territory. We always seemed to have stable luck during that time. That's just from casual observance since I've been on the pool. (Which really hasn't been that long. Since the middle of April.)

Need some BLOCKSSSSS!!
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With an average of ~4 blocks per day (over the last 180 days), how come folks look for external reasons for 2 block days but call the 6 block days "good luck" and go on about their merry way?

Haha!  Everybody loves the 6 block days but the 2 block days brings out the tin foil hat folks!



well in this domain(cryptoland) its not safe whatsoever to just assume all is ok. Its great to always be on your toes.. It must be nice that you have no concerns but those that question arent necessarily trolls wearing tinfoil hats.  Not intelligent of you to stereotype in this way.  To think for yourself is to question authority.  

Looking at organofcorti and the long term stats it seems china is slowing creeping on top.. Looks like that 80% mining share is starting to pay off.. Also with the pools shrinking in size it wouldn't take much hash and cost to pull a with holding attack on the few remaining public pools.> The network hashrate did just drop about 6 % network wide.. maybe that isnt all just block halving and power bills coming. Could be a select few attacking the pools.. slush just lost 6 ph/s and look at their long term stats on pool(lets see if they start hitting some blocks now that its gone.... I think there is more to this.  and is something that shouldnt be so easily thrown into your barrel of tin hat theories.. Most of those are what leads to truth anyway.  I welcome them personally..   All theories and thoughts should be welcome as you never know which one will spark an idea or could lead to breakthru.  As bitcoin becomes more scarce id imagine this will only lead to more attacks.. Could be soon we all have to look at this long term and start going solo.. May be forced to solo nodes mining.  

I have no doubt kano will figure this out if there is a problem or not.> This is the risk we must also factor in roi.  The possibilty the pool is attacked.. This really is turning into a every man for themselves scenario. I dont like it one bit.  When money gets involved best judgement is thrown into the wind it seems.  I will just set it and forget it for a while.  I was taking a gamble by renting .. i knew the risk.  Good luck all and may we see greener pastures soon:)

Best Regards
d57heinz
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So, the next day that Kano.is pool finds 6 blocks (and 2 of them are found with S9s), does that mean that the "nefarious" miners failed to do their job? Undecided

Or their miners are off the pool...

I don't care what people quote in regards to 'luck' and statistics. It's simple to notice when you have normal to good luck for very long time, then when large PH accounts via rentals arrive, the luck goes to hell. They go away and we're back to normal to good luck again. It's been repeated numerous times since we've been over 25PH.
Heck we had IMO better and more stable expected daily blocks at that level than since it's been over. In a way I'd rather we've be back at that hash rate.

I'm still riding this bad luck as we're at 4-5blocks behind since the last 2 high-block days from the 16th, but not sure how long I can stay optimistic.
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So, the next day that Kano.is pool finds 6 blocks (and 2 of them are found with S9s), does that mean that the "nefarious" miners failed to do their job? Undecided
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@philipma1957

I was more specifically referring to the "S9's are intentionally bad" concept.  Undecided


P.S. - If things effect "luck" then it's not luck.

yeah  that is my point      the luck rating is exactly not based on luck.
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@philipma1957

I was more specifically referring to the "S9's are intentionally bad" concept.  Undecided


P.S. - If things effect "luck" then it's not luck.

a lot of it has to do with their version of bmminer, since they never released the source nobody can check it..

for all anyone knows.. it could do anything.. it is a possibility they could have damaged it in a way that does affect finding blocks.


My concern as well. Until someone who knows mining software code (Kano) can check the code, I consider either crappy coding or nefarious intent a possibility. I doubt the latter.

I wonder if Kano is working on the block-finding stats for S9's on this board versus other miners in the same time frame. Maybe that is what he said he was working on.

Edit: We haven't had a bright green block in almost 7 days. My math sucks, so I don't what the probability of that is. But it's "probably" in the realm of expected every so many blocks/days. Maybe someone with greater math skills than me can chime in on that.
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Hey guys I know dust payment are not send automatic but I have been mining with 2 gekkostick for the last weeks and no payments yet.
When am I suppoce to get a payment? Any minimum btc ?

Thanks  Wink
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@philipma1957

I was more specifically referring to the "S9's are intentionally bad" concept.  Undecided


P.S. - If things effect "luck" then it's not luck.

a lot of it has to do with their version of bmminer, since they never released the source nobody can check it..

for all anyone knows.. it could do anything.. it is a possibility they could have damaged it in a way that does affect finding blocks.


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@philipma1957

I was more specifically referring to the "S9's are intentionally bad" concept.  Undecided


P.S. - If things effect "luck" then it's not luck.
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One thing I am sure of is that if there is something crooked going on, kano will find it and zap it away eventually.
Mine on, we are at 50PH!
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With an average of ~4 blocks per day (over the last 180 days), how come folks look for external reasons for 2 block days but call the 6 block days "good luck" and go on about their merry way?

because  most people think that this pools  105% lifetime luck is the norm due to better programmer internet and servers.


the fallacy with luck in this game is the al-gore-rhythm   is in theory a perfect coin so to speak and that with normal luck  it is 50% heads and 50% tails.


My knowledge of the al-gore-rhythm is that is true.  but the luck in block making involves more then the 'coin' to be flipped.
this below has translated to 104-105% luck over a long time period:

how well do you protect against ddos ------------- affects the luck -------- kano.is does well
how well did you write the pools software ------  affects the luck---------- kano.is does well
how good is your internet connection ----------- affects the luck ---------- kano.is does well
how good are your servers -----------------------  affects the luck --------- kano.is does well
unknown factors ----------------------------------- affect the luck -----------kano.is does unknown as does everyone else by definition.

how do you protect against block withholds----- affects the luck----------- very hard  thus tin foil hats pop up

since kano.is has whaled and done very well   block withholds   like an old school western villainous gunslinger  hired by a scumbag (? you can pick a pool a bitcoin asic builder or an individual  with deep pockets) may happen
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