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newbie
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Another Block!  Number 11 by 5hdo3 with 74THs and his 2nd kano block!

Edit:  Dang, now I have to adjust my spreadsheet...I had it set for a max of 10 per day!  I love having a problem like this!



pew pew pew... Only read now been grafting hahahahaha..... work dem S7s work
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Cool   13 blocks in ~25 HR and 25 MIN = one tiered kano when the payments start going out....  Grin
All due payouts now gone out.

Very late last night I started on making a "simple" change to the luck report while waiting to send a payout.
I guessed I was tired and gave up due to a problem I couldn't for the life of me work out.
(I thought, leave it for the morning, will be obvious then)
... in the morning ... a few hours later ... oh ... OK silly problem fixed Tongue

So yeah payouts were delayed a few hours, but all done now.
Payout processing doesn't take all that long, but I guess when there's 11 of them it takes a little longer ...
Yep a good problem to have Cheesy

Edit: and all 5 payouts are confirmed now also
member
Activity: 66
Merit: 10
All - Last 784 Blocks   81.9wks   100.9%   90.10%   92.40%   0.0149   108.23%

That's the highest I've ever seen.  Kano rocks!!!
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 9201
'The right to privacy matters'
13 on the 13th  lets do it. Grin Grin Grin


you know  we did do the 13 blocks on the 13 th of april

we just needed an extra time zone or two.

not bad
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
At this rate these miners I bought might just ROI after all.
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
Not the first time this has happened here. Block after block. Glad I have a S7 going this time over old S3's
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Cool   13 blocks in ~25 HR and 25 MIN = one tiered kano when the payments start going out....  Grin

I dont think he will mind. Its a good problem to have. Time to implement the auto pay.
sr. member
Activity: 331
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 Cool   13 blocks in ~25 HR and 25 MIN = one tiered kano when the payments start going out....  Grin
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
I think we are just dancing and jumping ATM
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Heh, we must be getting too many blocks Cheesy Cheesy
No one posted about the last one just now Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 276
Merit: 250
Wow! That was one awesome block day! This pool is awesome, -ck & Kano are the best, and the members here are awesome as well! I'll be suspending mining soon but I plan on coming back to this pool as soon as I can.
Mine on!
full member
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Merit: 100
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Whohoo !!!  Found my first block on kano.

Diff:  428311815084

Found by a S5.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/407091

Nice work Xunknown
member
Activity: 66
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Whohoo !!!  Found my first block on kano.

Diff:  428311815084

Found by a S5.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/407091
hero member
Activity: 777
Merit: 1003
Of course the stats are all correct - ignoring those blocks as a counter in the block total, but including the shares in the totals
(as it states at the bottom)

Right, so if you include those orphans in the total block count we have 792 + 6 = 798
6 out of 798 were orphans, 6/798 = 0.00752 = 0.752% of the blocks were orphans.
That is an extremely low number. Which, I believe, is proof that you and ck have created some extremely awesome code.  Smiley

Now I'm off to find out why my S4 stopped mining....  Undecided

edit: Nice, just a power cycle and it is swinging it's pickax again.  Cool
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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Total the luck percentage of the orphan block and the good block after, that would be what you should comparing to.
Looking at the orphans that way:

2.686% + 97.620% = 100.620%
27.037% + 142.268% = 169.305%
44.215% + 85.159% = 129.374%
94.272% + 161.931% = 256.203%
55.342% + 72.247% = 127.589%
143.912% + 134.764% = 278.676%
...
Yeah I do actually colour the next block based on the sum - e.g. that 278.676% block is actually coloured based on it being 278.676%

Having a tick box at the top to hide/show the orphans/stales/invalids, and show the sum numbers when the invalids are hidden, for those blocks is on (not very high) the todo list.

Of course the stats are all correct - ignoring those blocks as a counter in the block total, but including the shares in the totals
(as it states at the bottom)

... anyone curious about the code Smiley
https://bitbucket.org/ckolivas/ckpool/src/2fb9e956765f37275c19f74e96c3bfe8a1aa06fd/src/ckdb_data.c?at=master&fileviewer=file-view-default#ckdb_data.c-2998
hero member
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Merit: 1003
If Kano thinks there is a way to cut down on the orphans (or do any other improvements), I would vote to increase the fees.

Some quick numbers as an example:  

Say there are 2 orphans a month on average (the last month had 3).

Kano.is has had a total of 6 orphans since September 2014, so the average is more like 0.3 per month.

Right now, that is say $20,000 lost due to orphans (50 BTC ~ $400 each).  

Think of it this way:
Total the luck percentage of the orphan block and the good block after, that would be what you should comparing to.
Looking at the orphans that way:

2.686% + 97.620% = 100.620%
27.037% + 142.268% = 169.305%
44.215% + 85.159% = 129.374%
94.272% + 161.931% = 256.203%
55.342% + 72.247% = 127.589%
143.912% + 134.764% = 278.676%

None of those are really all that bad.

There has been about 37 blocks with a higher % than the highest one of those. And yet the pools total luck % is still 108%. The few orphans have had very little impact on anything. Spending money on reducing the number of orphans will not yield any significant increase on productivity. Yes it is something that is important, but unfortunately not as important as pure random luck. And I'm pretty sure Kano and ck are always working on this.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I'm not interested in increasing fees.
I am still looking into china node options.
... as long as they are reliable and don't charge silly fees - then they are an option.
I've tried a few so far and each time I find I'm dealing with morons Tongue
Still looking ...

As for trying to entice larger miners with reduced fees ... well ... that's already the case - our fees are the lowest for any medium/large pool since we include all the transaction fees also.
I avoid saying this as much as possible, but yeah luck here is good ... who knows if that will continue ... it has only averaged good for 1.5 years so far ... ... ...

Meanwhile ... yay 12 blocks in 1 day + 16 minutes ... and the hash rate is ... at the low end of the 30-40PH range ... oh well Tongue
We've had the hash rate at the high end of that 30-40PH range, so it's not like no one knows about the pool ...
(the 52PH high was from a failover)

kano - have you tried HK node instead - not sure if HK is spared of GFW being a business hub.

btw, I counted 6 orphans since birth of kano.is, 6 out of 792 blocks is miniscule so those orphan races will always be there - whats important is blocks and random luck factor, no?
Yes we have an HK node.

Yes the 6 orphans is small, but making it smaller would of course be better Smiley

Though indeed, looking at the pool luck, just, e.g. the last 250 blocks, of those 250, 111.56% means that we found 25.9 extra blocks i.e. we expected on average to find 224.1 blocks, but found an extra 25.9 (224.1 * 111.56% = 250)
So indeed the luck so far has WAY over-compensated for the very low orphan rate.

Meanwhile ...
I felt the urge to record this for posterity ... until we reach that mark Smiley
Click for bigger:
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
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I'm not interested in increasing fees.
I am still looking into china node options.
... as long as they are reliable and don't charge silly fees - then they are an option.
I've tried a few so far and each time I find I'm dealing with morons Tongue
Still looking ...

As for trying to entice larger miners with reduced fees ... well ... that's already the case - our fees are the lowest for any medium/large pool since we include all the transaction fees also.
I avoid saying this as much as possible, but yeah luck here is good ... who knows if that will continue ... it has only averaged good for 1.5 years so far ... ... ...

Meanwhile ... yay 12 blocks in 1 day + 16 minutes ... and the hash rate is ... at the low end of the 30-40PH range ... oh well Tongue
We've had the hash rate at the high end of that 30-40PH range, so it's not like no one knows about the pool ...
(the 52PH high was from a failover)

kano - have you tried HK node instead - not sure if HK is spared of GFW being a business hub.

btw, I counted 6 orphans since birth of kano.is, 6 out of 792 blocks is miniscule so those orphan races will always be there - whats important is blocks and random luck factor, no?
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
... and I should say - the pool is well know with thanks to a few people!
Phil and DMWardJr are the 2 main people to thank for that.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
another block!  I just need one payout to hold steady...
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