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legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
Halving will be the "end" for many minermen...
The strongest ones will overlive.
Who will spend cash for losing cash?
After the halving ...people will keep up...and the "give-uper" will then give oxygen to the survivors...
Mining hardware will be traded for low prices...


thats a bad prediction. you are looking at from very narrow perspective.

if the reward splits for miners there could also be a 100% increase in price. meaning that nothing has changed.

Why should the price increase and not decrease?
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Halving will be the "end" for many minermen...
The strongest ones will overlive.
Who will spend cash for losing cash?
After the halving ...people will keep up...and the "give-uper" will then give oxygen to the survivors...
Mining hardware will be traded for low prices...


thats a bad prediction. you are looking at from very narrow perspective.

if the reward splits for miners there could also be a 100% increase in price. meaning that nothing has changed.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
Halving will be the "end" for many minermen...
The strongest ones will overlive.
Who will spend cash for losing cash?
After the halving ...people will keep up...and the "give-uper" will then give oxygen to the survivors...
Mining hardware will be traded for low prices...


I use them to heat my house. It works out to be cheaper to heat my house with my miners then with them turned off and heating by my baseboard heaters. I will only mine in cold weather now. It has made me like winter more than I used to.  Grin

And you are right...it is what I do with my aquariums...in winter they cost me less than in summer where the windows are widely open.
of course it will not be the end of mining...onmy the end of some miners who are not is your situation.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1019
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Halving will be the "end" for many minermen...
The strongest ones will overlive.
Who will spend cash for losing cash?
After the halving ...people will keep up...and the "give-uper" will then give oxygen to the survivors...
Mining hardware will be traded for low prices...


I use them to heat my house. It works out to be cheaper to heat my house with my miners then with them turned off and heating by my baseboard heaters. I will only mine in cold weather now. It has made me like winter more than I used to.  Grin
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Halving will be the "end" for many minermen...
The strongest ones will overlive.
Who will spend cash for losing cash?
After the halving ...people will keep up...and the "give-uper" will then give oxygen to the survivors...
Mining hardware will be traded for low prices...


If we consider that Bitcoin has a chance of being much more valuable in the future (or also worthless if things go poorly) then depending on where you think the value will go you can offset present losses against future gains. Of course we'll always want to strive for the best short term profit as well to increase our chances at future gains, but it's not the only factor.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
Halving will be the "end" for many minermen...
The strongest ones will overlive.
Who will spend cash for losing cash?
After the halving ...people will keep up...and the "give-uper" will then give oxygen to the survivors...
Mining hardware will be traded for low prices...
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
Hey guys and girls, I keep seeing about how bitcoin will split in half and I am assuming that means instead of 25 bitcoins per block it will be 12.5 bc per block and at that rate ...ouch..
My question is why will it do that and if anyone knows of more efficient machines or ways of mining because that is going to hurt and I want to grow not shrink.
I read somewhere on forum but can't find it about new chips coming out but can not find any info on it.
Every 210,000 the coinbase block reward halves.

It was originally 50BTC, then halved at block 210,000 to 25BTC, next will halve again at block 420,000 to 12.5BTC ... etc

That's about as clear an explanation as I've heard. My own take is I'm not worrying about it. That's the way Satoshi designed it, and there are good reasons, and I think that's why the system is going to persevere. It's all interactive...reward rate, spot price...and the considerations re mining and power costs figure into that. I'm very fortunate that I have free power where I live, and the landlord is not complaining (they are on massive PV anyway). Mining, however, is only a precursor to the future of Bitcoin. I feel that anyone mining Bitcoin to pay the rent or mortgage should probably learn to play Texas Hold'em and find a good card room. You'll do better, probably. My own objectives are some sort of retirement security that is not dependent on the fiat system (sort of like a 401K) and independent of the stock market, and...seriously...to support the Bitcoin concept and keep it healthy, because I believe it will be critical in our global future. I don't put a lot of mental effort into diff %'s and the other math involved (although I know how to do it...it's just not my favorite thing). I get up in the morning, get a cup of coffee, sit down at the console in my living room that now looks, sounds, and feels like a data center, check kano.is and my wallet, and at least read this forum. That's why I'm here (at kano.is). No BS (well, maybe a little from time to time, but in good humor), no smoke and mirrors, just business and reasonable interaction with intelligent folks. Sorry for the long ramble. Thanks, Kano. You've "done good."
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
Hey Guys, i'm kinda new to the game here. I've been playing around with 4 s7's for a couple weeks now. I own an IT company with our own data center so we are kind of running an experiment with these 4 to learn more about pools with multiple machines, how to manage multiple machines etc.

I've read about why to use kano vs antmine and I fully support that. but as we build a business plan to invest in hardware etc to go big ~150 machines. The problem i've had so far, and keep in mind this is over the last 2-3 weeks.... I get better results with antmine.

With my 4 boxes I can do a steady and predictable 0.1btc with my 4 miners. On here the last few days i'm lucky if i'm getting 0.05.

Am I missing something?

Another question I have is with a machine that finds a block. Does that user get a larger reward or what happens?

I'm aware of the halving, we're working to build experience and knowledge so we can make a very good educated decision on how to move forward after the halving and the potential new hardware.

Kano, we're in canada also and own two smaller data centers, we should chat about a canadian node?

Thanks in advance!

Well why not do  50-50    for 30 days.

 ½ at kano.is with antpool as back up
 ½ at antpool with kano.is as back up

compare each 30 day shot.

  long term kano.is has had better results  but running 150 machines cost money for manpower and electric power.

a 10 day cold streak is more likely to happen here
but antpool has had cold streaks.

so a 50-50 mix of the two is more likely to smooth variance better and you can at least say you are doing 50% morally correct.  I define morally correct as trying to go long term with the game not kill the goose for the golden eggs.

after 3x 30 day comparison test you can reevaluate . your deployment.

I am smaller then your setup will be even if I fill the solar array with buysolar

 we are going to do 13 to 16 kwatts  which is 60th max with current generation.

I switched my miners to have two on kano and 2 on ant mine. i'll leave them go for 30 days and see what the results are. I can see the payout here getting better as I stay on, but the found blocks aren't steady. So we'll see what happens. it's looking to me right now that my 4 machines are maching about 0.05btc per day and on antmine I was getting 0.1 per day.

I'm using pplns payout on antmine as well.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
whats 12 times the diff amongst friends
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Another Block!  This time it's agentcash with 182THs!  This is his 2nd kano block!

BestShare: 2,040,169,637,739


Whooboy that S7 deserves a spa day for that one.

Whow, that's over 12 times the difficulty...we all appreciate it here at the kano pool!
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 9201
'The right to privacy matters'
block?

never mind late email on the one that came 15 minutes ago
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Hey guys and girls, I keep seeing about how bitcoin will split in half and I am assuming that means instead of 25 bitcoins per block it will be 12.5 bc per block and at that rate ...ouch..
My question is why will it do that and if anyone knows of more efficient machines or ways of mining because that is going to hurt and I want to grow not shrink.
I read somewhere on forum but can't find it about new chips coming out but can not find any info on it.
Every 210,000 the coinbase block reward halves.

It was originally 50BTC, then halved at block 210,000 to 25BTC, next will halve again at block 420,000 to 12.5BTC ... etc
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Another Block!  This time it's agentcash with 182THs!  This is his 2nd kano block!
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Hey guys and girls, I keep seeing about how bitcoin will split in half and I am assuming that means instead of 25 bitcoins per block it will be 12.5 bc per block and at that rate ...ouch..
My question is why will it do that and if anyone knows of more efficient machines or ways of mining because that is going to hurt and I want to grow not shrink.
I read somewhere on forum but can't find it about new chips coming out but can not find any info on it.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Block by fabrizziop with 6.4THs!  He makes it on the Acclaim Board with his first kano block!
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 506
Well, after someone (else) having discussions with Gavin regarding pushing SPV mining in Classic and him saying he will continue to do that ... I guess at least where I stand on that issue is clear.

I certainly have no interest in pushing SPV mining thus none in pushing Classic.
If it happens to unexpectedly get concensus, then we'll obviously switch.
Until then, no block flagging for Classic.

Good deal, I see that KNC is also mining empty blocks.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Well, after someone (else) having discussions with Gavin regarding pushing SPV mining in Classic and him saying he will continue to do that ... I guess at least where I stand on that issue is clear.

I certainly have no interest in pushing SPV mining thus none in pushing Classic.
If it happens to unexpectedly get concensus, then we'll obviously switch.
Until then, no block flagging for Classic.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Block by steve1!  That's his 2nd block on kano!
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Heh that's gotta be our shortest time after another block ever.
1.7s after the previous mined network block Smiley
Code:
[2016-03-19 01:02:52.814] Block hash changed to 00000000000000000041538f2b39173b480f6adaf20170aaf6ba4521d3f9b590
[2016-03-19 01:02:54.526] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2016-03-19 01:02:54.568] Block hash changed to 0000000000000000003513c778c4f7d14f7f1c3f1a2d42e540bda77bf8688261

Did we get decent fees?

Well 0.02+ in fees is pretty since we got them in under 2 seconds
Considering that on some of the other pools a block solve that fast would have likely indicated an empty block, I would say 0.02 in fees is not too shabby.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
Our rewards are back to where they were before the kerfuffle. Nice. I can get used to this. Thanks for the work on the share checking, Kano. It really does seem to have been significant. The S7 has shipped. It's a good day.
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