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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 1958. (Read 5352097 times)

legendary
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Yeah the graph code doesn't have a function to mark an independent point or shade an area - I'll have to add that and draw/shade the last payout range - that should be a smaller change and more likely for me to get it done in the near future Smiley

Meanwhile ... yay both A6s up and running ok first go, now powering a tiny 7+T at the pool all weekend (it's Fri night here now)
Avalon FTW Cheesy

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... and something of relevance to everyone mining.
-ck and I have made comments about block change performance and related things.
The main related thing of course for any pool being orphan rates.
As probably everyone knows I've also had a lot to say about SPV and Empty blocks.

Well as of today kano.is is now doing block changes as fast as or within 200ms of 2 SPV pools (BTCC and F2pool china) but the one fastest SPV pool
(as of last 80 blocks stats run by someone else)
solo is still a little faster than kano.is (250ms faster)

So rest assured that, although orphans are not something that can be completely avoided (and are random) our kano.is is doing block changes that are faster than any of the "Empty block" pools by quite a margin and almost as fast as the SPV pools ... all without risking the bitcoin network by SPV mining and without delaying transactions unnecessarily by producing empty blocks
full member
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Yay got one Avalon A6 (thanks Avalon!)My high price electricity is about to cut in (in 5 minutes) .......

I want one, well I want lots of them haha Shame you aren't local as I'd donate my electric. I need to invest in some more miners but the price seems to be a lot higher than it was a month ago for second hand kit. I picked up a number of S1's for about £20 each and narrowly missed out on some neptunes for only couple of hundred Sad

Anybody know of any kit that's cheap £ per Hash? or shall I just keep scouting around on ebay? or pony up for some new kit  Undecided
legendary
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My idea was based on the fact that the shift graph already carries a time key at the bottom that divides the day into 6hr intervals ( 6/0700, 6/1500, 6/2300, 7/0700) realizing that 5Nd  is not time based. Computing it continually is resource intense. But Flagging with color a particular shift line in the "Graph" that is relevant/persistent only 4 times a day wouldn't be much of a step up from the redline in the shift page while presenting/maintaining a visual Que someone could reference against submitted hashrate. (Assuming the Shift Graph continues to be longer than the pools 5Nd)

edit: my first payout at Kano- 328234 171S1TrHRm6n7WG8GRjZr3YQUCGvENgxiK   0.00166994 FWIW.
hero member
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg
Maybe you could add a floating reference mark to the shift graph that indicates where the pool's 5N is and auto updates at each new 6hour shift interval key.

there already is a red line.. all the shifts above that are in the 5N range.


Yup, that is mostly correct from the way I view it. (See Kano's post for the actual way it works Smiley)
Go to the shifts page and it states to click here to jump to the start of the last payout.

I enjoy scrolling down that page and seeing how bad this pool crushes PPS pools. It is one of the best things that has been added to the front end. I don't think I have seen higher than a 9 for the number of times a share was paid.
That is 168.34 % of a PPS pool.
This number has been 6,7, or 8 consistently for a good while now. Those numbers mean that share has been paid that many times for a block find.

I know some people are simply worried about when they are fully ramped up, I've been there.
Some people are trying to figure out the best time to leave and come back, I have been there too.
Some people are really trying hard to figure out the best way to game the pool. Do I leave right after the block is found for a few hours and come back, or leave 3 hours here, 4 hours there, and come back to maintain my highest payout, etc

The best way, is not to leave. Unless there are some GAW like payouts for rentals this is the place to be. Set it, and forget it.
I remember CK telling me that one day and I thought come on man, there must be a way, but he was / is right.

Why is he right, in simple terms?
In my opinion because of past luck and the pool and db code.

The only pools who can compete on a technical level are pools running the same code. It is that simple. Other pools have unfair ramp downs. Other pools run other software which cannot compete. When you are on this pool if all things are equal there is no contest even when the hashrate was 1.2 PH versus what we have today. Sure the payouts took longer, but they were much larger. The variance was higher. However the luck maintains. Just look at the current luck for all blocks, we are still maintaining 102%.

No one touches it.

Set your backup or throw a couple of lotto miners over to ck solo pool and take a chance. You still have the fantastic software base of ckpool, the same lack of orphans, but it is more of a gamble because you are solo mining.

The code is faster, cleaner, and not weighed down. There are amazingly fast servers located in convenient geographical spots.

These guys made the code which runs on the miner, and the code which runs on their pools. Again, simply, these are facts no one can deny with anything but noise, because the proof is right there in the numbers for anyone to verify.

As we move closer to the halving we will see more miners and pools struggling to maintain any resemblance to what we have here.

When someone asks me about the ramp up now, or wants to play with their local difficulty setting I tell them the same thing CK told me. Don't touch anything, use the defaults, and leave it alone.
It is truly, the only way to fly.
legendary
Activity: 4592
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Maybe you could add a floating reference mark to the shift graph that indicates where the pool's 5N is and auto updates at each new 6hour shift interval key.

there already is a red line.. all the shifts above that are in the 5N range.

Heh, actually almost Smiley
That's the last payout which goes from the last block at the top down to the red line.
So yeah it does show how long the last payout 5Nd is.

As does the Rewards page for all previous payouts.
legendary
Activity: 4592
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Maybe you could add a floating reference mark to the shift graph that indicates where the pool's 5N is and auto updates at each new 6hour shift interval key.
Nope. It's not a simple "N hrs" ago.
The problem is that the 5Nd is back to the shift that first includes 5Nd (or more) shares.
The number of shares changes (currently) 883 times a second (and shifts average somewhere around 40minutes)
When ckdb does a payout generation, it locks all the tables related and counts back and does all that processing (and stores it in the database)
The locking I have implemented in most of ckdb is table based, so at the moment, to do that calculation every time anyone views a page that wants to know it, is not going to happen.

I do have a todo item to actually do that calculation at the pool level every time a share is submitted, where it would be a quick delta adjustment of new data to be able to determine the current (right now) 5Nd shift - of course that's not going to be used for payouts, but used for display porpoises.
I would also allow me to estimate your payout as at 'now' if I also did the same at a per user level.
No that's not done yet, and it isn't at the top of the todo list.
legendary
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Maybe you could add a floating reference mark to the shift graph that indicates where the pool's 5N is and auto updates at each new 6hour shift interval key.

there already is a red line.. all the shifts above that are in the 5N range.
legendary
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Maybe you could add a floating reference mark to the shift graph that indicates where the pool's 5N is and auto updates at each new 6hour shift interval key.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Kano is it possible to achieve 5nd running 18 hours a day only, and still receive the same reward as 24 hours a day
No Tongue
I'll get ~18/24 of the 24hrs reward.
What will be the approximate reward for 100th at full ramp up?
How do I know when I have 100% ramp up?
The ramp up is dependent on the pool size, not your size. The pool is currently ~4.5PH which means 1N (or a block on average) about every ~20 hours, so ramp up is ~100 hours.
Thank you.
Is there a number in my statistics that reflects it?
No, it's the same for everyone.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523
Kano is it possible to achieve 5nd running 18 hours a day only, and still receive the same reward as 24 hours a day
No Tongue
I'll get ~18/24 of the 24hrs reward.
What will be the approximate reward for 100th at full ramp up?
How do I know when I have 100% ramp up?
The ramp up is dependent on the pool size, not your size. The pool is currently ~4.5PH which means 1N (or a block on average) about every ~20 hours, so ramp up is ~100 hours.
Thank you.
Is there a number in my statistics that reflects it?
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
Kano is it possible to achieve 5nd running 18 hours a day only, and still receive the same reward as 24 hours a day
No Tongue
I'll get ~18/24 of the 24hrs reward.
What will be the approximate reward for 100th at full ramp up?
How do I know when I have 100% ramp up?
The ramp up is dependent on the pool size, not your size. The pool is currently ~4.5PH which means 1N (or a block on average) about every ~20 hours, so ramp up is ~100 hours.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523
Kano is it possible to achieve 5nd running 18 hours a day only, and still receive the same reward as 24 hours a day
No Tongue
I'll get ~18/24 of the 24hrs reward.
What will be the approximate reward for 100th at full ramp up?
How do I know when I have 100% ramp up?
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
check alloscomp.com for a guesstimate  Grin
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523
Kano is it possible to achieve 5nd running 18 hours a day only, and still receive the same reward as 24 hours a day
No Tongue
I'll get ~18/24 of the 24hrs reward.
What will be the approximate reward for 100th at full ramp up?
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
and i was going to ask what follows Peta
hero member
Activity: 770
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Looks like we finally hit the wall on hashrate increase, I see a hook.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Kano is it possible to achieve 5nd running 18 hours a day only, and still receive the same reward as 24 hours a day
No Tongue
I'll get ~18/24 of the 24hrs reward.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
Kano is it possible to achieve 5nd running 18 hours a day only, and still receive the same reward as 24 hours a day
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Yay got one Avalon A6 (thanks Avalon!) up and running in the last hour!

My high price electricity is about to cut in (in 5 minutes) so I'll switch it off for the 6hrs of high price, but from tonight I should be able to point ~7T (2xA6) at the pool each day for 18hrs a day Smiley

Currently I'm averaging 1.2T for 24hrs, and a bit more than a 1/3 of that is thanks to a miner on our pool who's been pointing an S3 at my account for a very long time and averages 440GHs all day every day! Thanks yet again sjc Cheesy
In fact I probably should suggest you switch it off and save you some electricity $ now that the difficulty is getting so much higher.
But as always it has been much appreciated.
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