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hero member
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Thank you for explanation
I red a much but i didn't really explain to myself PPLNS with 500% of last shares I always had thinking that the PPLNS is depending to the N shifts in current round where 1 round = 1 block but You have right to have your own PPLNS sistem Smiley
I really don't understand everything because of my poor english, but nevermind
Merry Christmas
Cheers

Like Kano explained it does take time to ramp up but once you do you will find it was well worth your wait. It is also nice not to suffer a huge penalty if one of your miners drop off or if you have network problems. Hope you stick around happy mining.
full member
Activity: 134
Merit: 100
Merry Christmas everyone...

My Christmas gift of 2 S4's and 3 SP20's didn't arrive Sad

Looks like sometime next month..


Super excited  Grin Grin Grin
jr. member
Activity: 128
Merit: 1
The World’s First Blockchain Core

No I am not joking - I guess you've not read much about PPLNS or the pool settings on the web site, or the first post here.

The pool is PPLNS
It currently pays all shares for the last 500% shares.
If you haven't been mining for the last 500% then of course you will get less than your hash rate
Once you have mined non-stop for a full 500% then you will get a payout close to your expected hashrate
Once you stop mining after that, you will get diminishing payments for all blocks found in the 500% AFTER you stop mining.

That's how PPLNS works when N is greater than network difficulty.
As the web site and the first post here say, N is 5x network difficulty.

Now for your exact numbers for one of them:
block 335701
Network difficulty was 39457671307.138733
5xN was 197288356535.693665
We paid 197313527542 shares (as usual a little more than the wanted 500% value)
Of those 197313527542 shares, the username with payout address 12GW5729uMXE1GTBZwTvZrwek6W9hwHeNd had 6397102.0 shares
The 99.1% payout amount was 24.81733088BTC
So ... 24.81733088 * 6397102.0 / 197313527542 = 0.00080460 BTC


Thank you for explanation
I red a much but i didn't really explain to myself PPLNS with 500% of last shares I always had thinking that the PPLNS is depending to the N shifts in current round where 1 round = 1 block but You have right to have your own PPLNS sistem Smiley
I really don't understand everything because of my poor english, but nevermind
Merry Christmas
Cheers
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1001
Payouts 335701 and 335703 sent
Edit: and confirmed
335735 Payout sent

Looks like you will get a break now for a while.
No thanks - more blocks please Smiley

wow you got your wish.. x2
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4


The PPLNS takes a long time to wind up here to penalize pool hoppers.  Stay with it, it'll catch up.  Took me a while to catch up too, but now I'm at full payout.

M

congratulations for your legendary membership

Do you mind that I have to wait 6 or more blocks to receive full payment for my hashrate ?
You will probably have to wait more than 6 more.
We just found another 2 in the last 20 minutes.
As you will also be paid for any blocks found in the 500% after you stop mining.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Kano Are You joking ?
I put my 1.45 Th in your pool at block 335667
and I have full participation in block 335701; 335703 and 335735
with my power 1.45 Th which is 0.036% of the pool power
And what I receive ? 0.0008 BTC form block 335701 - that is 0.0032% of the block - 10 times smaller
block 335703 - the same 0.00083 again 10 times smaller
block 335735 muuuch better 0.001373 that is just 7 times smaller than I expect

Could you explain me why for me is 5 to 10 times worst to mine in your pool than any other pool ?
  
some links
my hashrate
http://prntscr.com/5krsks
My payments (last 3 transactions)
https://blockchain.info/address/12GW5729uMXE1GTBZwTvZrwek6W9hwHeNd

Thank you

PS I post this because I fully agree with the previoys post And I really wonder how my BTC wallet is not very happy when I mine with you Smiley
No I am not joking - I guess you've not read much about PPLNS or the pool settings on the web site, or the first post here.

The pool is PPLNS
It currently pays all shares for the last 500% shares.
If you haven't been mining for the last 500% then of course you will get less than your hash rate
Once you have mined non-stop for a full 500% then you will get a payout close to your expected hashrate
Once you stop mining after that, you will get diminishing payments for all blocks found in the 500% AFTER you stop mining.

That's how PPLNS works when N is greater than network difficulty.
As the web site and the first post here say, N is 5x network difficulty.

Now for your exact numbers for one of them:
block 335701
Network difficulty was 39457671307.138733
5xN was 197288356535.693665
We paid 197313527542 shares (as usual a little more than the wanted 500% value)
Of those 197313527542 shares, the username with payout address 12GW5729uMXE1GTBZwTvZrwek6W9hwHeNd had 6397102.0 shares
The 99.1% payout amount was 24.81733088BTC
So ... 24.81733088 * 6397102.0 / 197313527542 = 0.00080460 BTC
jr. member
Activity: 128
Merit: 1
The World’s First Blockchain Core


The PPLNS takes a long time to wind up here to penalize pool hoppers.  Stay with it, it'll catch up.  Took me a while to catch up too, but now I'm at full payout.

M

congratulations for your legendary membership

Do you mind that I have to wait 6 or more blocks to receive full payment for my hashrate ?
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1001
The PPLNS takes a long time to wind up here to penalize pool hoppers.  Stay with it, it'll catch up.  Took me a while to catch up too, but now I'm at full payout.

Woohoo!  The above was my first legendary post! Smiley

M

Congrats mdude77
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
The PPLNS takes a long time to wind up here to penalize pool hoppers.  Stay with it, it'll catch up.  Took me a while to catch up too, but now I'm at full payout.

Woohoo!  The above was my first legendary post! Smiley

M
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
Kano Are You joking ?
I put my 1.45 Th in your pool at block 335667
and I have full participation in block 335701; 335703 and 335735
with my power 1.45 Th which is 0.036% of the pool power
And what I receive ? 0.0008 BTC form block 335701 - that is 0.0032% of the block - 10 times smaller
block 335703 - the same 0.00083 again 10 times smaller
block 335735 muuuch better 0.001373 that is just 7 times smaller than I expect

Could you explain me why for me is 5 to 10 times worst to mine in your pool than any other pool ?
  
some links
my hashrate
http://prntscr.com/5krsks
My payments (last 3 transactions)
https://blockchain.info/address/12GW5729uMXE1GTBZwTvZrwek6W9hwHeNd

Thank you

PS I post this because I fully agree with the previoys post And I really wonder how my BTC wallet is not very happy when I mine with you Smiley

The PPLNS takes a long time to wind up here to penalize pool hoppers.  Stay with it, it'll catch up.  Took me a while to catch up too, but now I'm at full payout.

M
jr. member
Activity: 128
Merit: 1
The World’s First Blockchain Core
Kano Are You joking ?
I put my 1.45 Th in your pool at block 335667
and I have full participation in block 335701; 335703 and 335735
with my power 1.45 Th which is 0.036% of the pool power
And what I receive ? 0.0008 BTC form block 335701 - that is 0.0032% of the block - 10 times smaller
block 335703 - the same 0.00083 again 10 times smaller
block 335735 muuuch better 0.001373 that is just 7 times smaller than I expect

Could you explain me why for me is 5 to 10 times worst to mine in your pool than any other pool ?
  
some links
my hashrate
http://prntscr.com/5krsks
My payments (last 3 transactions)
https://blockchain.info/address/12GW5729uMXE1GTBZwTvZrwek6W9hwHeNd

Thank you

PS I post this because I fully agree with the previoys post And I really wonder how my BTC wallet is not very happy when I mine with you Smiley
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
Just thought I'd drop by to offer ckolivas & kano seasons greetings & to thank you both for everything you've done for the Bitcoin community here & everywhere - you are both absolute legends!!

Thank you very much for all your hard work & the services you provide  Grin

Peace.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
In case you didn't realise - "invalid" is the sum of the other 4 - sta, dup, hi, rej - for "w_share" and "w_diff"
I added them later by request but left "invalid" since the web page only needs invalid.

I didn't realize that.  Smiley  Will tweak.

Thanks.

M
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
In case you didn't realise - "invalid" is the sum of the other 4 - sta, dup, hi, rej - for "w_share" and "w_diff"
I added them later by request but left "invalid" since the web page only needs invalid.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
FYI, my pool monitoring app M's Pool Monitor now supports CKPool.



Thanks Kano for making the easiest API to parse ever, and I've looked at a lot of APIs from pools.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.951303

M
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Payouts 335701 and 335703 sent
Edit: and confirmed
335735 Payout sent

Looks like you will get a break now for a while.
No thanks - more blocks please Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1001
Payouts 335701 and 335703 sent
Edit: and confirmed
335735 Payout sent

Looks like you will get a break now for a while.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Payouts 335701 and 335703 sent
Edit: and confirmed
335735 Payout sent

Edit: confirmed
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I cant see the expected payout on the webpage.
Not that it gave a very accurate indication of what to expect anyway, but it was better than nothing.
Is that something that is being worked on at the moment?

And Merry Christmas to all as well.


Same here.?
With the change to 5N, it's even more inaccurate.
The shift changes should allow me to put a reasonably accurate estimate there after the shift code is done.
I got another question about it and decided best to just remove it until that's done.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
I cant see the expected payout on the webpage.
Not that it gave a very accurate indication of what to expect anyway, but it was better than nothing.
Is that something that is being worked on at the moment?

And Merry Christmas to all as well.


Same here.?
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