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gaud

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Quote from: BSGMiner on March 25, 2018, 02:16:39 PM

Quote from: Waztim on March 25, 2018, 06:14:06 AM

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Bitcoin must stay decentralized.
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Bitcoin is the ultimate concept that you can take control of your own lives and banking/financial requirements.
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It's Bitcoin baby, the ultimate [censored] to Centralized Control Freak Bankers. The enslavers.
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A common means of exchange between Nations and People that cannot be corrupted by a Central Banking System...

I agree with much of what you said in your original post; however, I picked out the above phrases to highlight an eye-opener that I've recently realized--granted, I'm still new to the whole payment exchange process--that led me to believe there are already third parties involved that seem to be the gatekeepers to the freedom you speak of.

For example, I just ordered my first hardware wallet, and let's say when I get it that I don't ever want to use the company who made it to handle my transactions--or any other company or that matter... What can I do? How can I single-handedly send you some Bitcoin without that or another third party being the middleman used to propagate that transaction to the rest of the Bitcoin network? Is there a way I can sweep my mining proceeds into my hardware wallet and buy something online without involving a third party? I'd love to know a simple way to do this.

Also, if Bitcoin isn't the digital equivalent of handing someone precious metals, then aren't we still headed the direction of a cashless society with Big Brother watching, tracking, and data mining our every move? This does not sound like freedom to me.

have to start by switching to monero since the nsa already has btc tracking well in hand. create your own wallets (may need to learn some programming but some are open source) the real problem is getting everyone else to use the crypto as a currency since without demand it has no value (ie if u cant by a loaf of bread when u need it it is nothing)

firetreeactual

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Quote from: BSGMiner on March 25, 2018, 02:16:39 PM

Quote from: Waztim on March 25, 2018, 06:14:06 AM

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Bitcoin must stay decentralized.
...
Bitcoin is the ultimate concept that you can take control of your own lives and banking/financial requirements.
...
It's Bitcoin baby, the ultimate [censored] to Centralized Control Freak Bankers. The enslavers.
...
A common means of exchange between Nations and People that cannot be corrupted by a Central Banking System...

I agree with much of what you said in your original post; however, I picked out the above phrases to highlight an eye-opener that I've recently realized--granted, I'm still new to the whole payment exchange process--that led me to believe there are already third parties involved that seem to be the gatekeepers to the freedom you speak of.

For example, I just ordered my first hardware wallet, and let's say when I get it that I don't ever want to use the company who made it to handle my transactions--or any other company or that matter... What can I do? How can I single-handedly send you some Bitcoin without that or another third party being the middleman used to propagate that transaction to the rest of the Bitcoin network? Is there a way I can sweep my mining proceeds into my hardware wallet and buy something online without involving a third party? I'd love to know a simple way to do this.

Also, if Bitcoin isn't the digital equivalent of handing someone precious metals, then aren't we still headed the direction of a cashless society with Big Brother watching, tracking, and data mining our every move? This does not sound like freedom to me.

Just a couple of things that stood out...how do you see any third party involved if you're sending BTC from your Core to theirs? It doesn't go anywhere other than the tx network itself. Even if you're paying for something online using Bitpay or that other new(er) service (read as with Newegg, Hostwinds, etc.) they're only providing the exchange service to the seller, not you (you're not paying a premium yourself to use the service).

Seems the nexus of this is where you store your coin...which subject accounts for at least a couple of hundred pages on this board... Cool

...which is about the only place a "third party" comes in. Some of us whom have been around since the white paper (and before Mt. Gox) have pretty strong opinions in that area. Reader's Digest version...your own Core on your own computer is the safest, IMHO.

Mine on.

shadowelite

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Quote from: HawkmasterUK on March 25, 2018, 11:49:41 AM

I am in the UK and was on 14.7p per KW now on 10.7p with a new company

Im joining outfoxthemarket next month in the uk 10p per kw 💪

BSGMiner

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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)

Quote from: Waztim on March 25, 2018, 06:14:06 AM

...
Bitcoin must stay decentralized.
...
Bitcoin is the ultimate concept that you can take control of your own lives and banking/financial requirements.
...
It's Bitcoin baby, the ultimate [censored] to Centralized Control Freak Bankers. The enslavers.
...
A common means of exchange between Nations and People that cannot be corrupted by a Central Banking System...

I agree with much of what you said in your original post; however, I picked out the above phrases to highlight an eye-opener that I've recently realized--granted, I'm still new to the whole payment exchange process--that led me to believe there are already third parties involved that seem to be the gatekeepers to the freedom you speak of.

For example, I just ordered my first hardware wallet, and let's say when I get it that I don't ever want to use the company who made it to handle my transactions--or any other company or that matter... What can I do? How can I single-handedly send you some Bitcoin without that or another third party being the middleman used to propagate that transaction to the rest of the Bitcoin network? Is there a way I can sweep my mining proceeds into my hardware wallet and buy something online without involving a third party? I'd love to know a simple way to do this.

Also, if Bitcoin isn't the digital equivalent of handing someone precious metals, then aren't we still headed the direction of a cashless society with Big Brother watching, tracking, and data mining our every move? This does not sound like freedom to me.

os2sam

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Think for yourself

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 12:35:26 PM

lol 2 yrs down the road reward wil half again and mining will almost come to a grinding halt it will all be about tradeing then lol

Right... Never heard that one before. Mining hadn't come to a halt or even slowed down due to previous halvings. And I doubt it will happen in the future.

CryptoStash

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Quote from: kano on March 24, 2018, 03:27:06 PM

Quote from: CryptoStash on March 24, 2018, 10:49:00 AM

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Are all shares equal?
Is the # of shares the most important statistic in terms of rewards?
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Higher diff will produce less shares.
Lower diff will produce more shares.
Both will produce the same expected Reward.

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Is it better to leave it on variable difficulty and let it find it's own nirvana or is there a specific number that will work better?

It's best to let the pool decide, unless you want to lower your network usage and if you have hundreds or thousands of miners.

The total network usage of a single miner is so small that I don't think anyone could save money changing it, unless they had hundreds or thousands of miners - and in this case you'd be best to use a proxy anyway which will reduce it down to the equivalent of a single miner.

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Worker Name: Work Diff :Last Share Shares :Diff :Share Rate «Elapsed :Invalid Block % :Hash Rate
BMCA_1 12.238k 1s 41 501,758 14.37THs 2m 30s 2.381% 0.016% 13.69THs

Looking at your worker page - since I can

- that high invalid % is due to when it connected, it had a single stale share.
Note it says you submitted 41 shares, but the stale % was 2.318% ... and 2.318% of 41 is approximately 1

I will add that, looking at the statistics at 41 shares = about 2 minutes of mining ... which is not very long at all.

I reposted that right after we found a block, if you scroll back just a touch you'll see I posted stats from the shift prior as well.

Thank you for your response.

gaud

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Quote from: rifleman74 on March 25, 2018, 12:14:29 PM

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:39:22 AM

Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 11:23:19 AM

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:16:01 AM

surprised ppl keep getting more machines online though the profit non existent now for those who have to pay fer electricity assuming the machine life of 2 years.

I pay .14kwh, and made near $200usd, at current BTCprice, the last 30 days. Recently went to a buyers consultation for Solar. If all goes smoothly, I'll be hooked up by summer.

Edit: the cost of Solar is .05kwh in my case. And after its paid off, obviously free.

yes some places are definitely cheaper fer electricity but for Americans it must be getting to be a lost cause in most areas. here in Canada its cheep as dirt but still takes a year jst to pay for the s9

Some people can mine at a loss, for future profits. Don't look at it as a short-term solution, think of 1-2 years down the road. That said, if you can't afford your electrical bills now, you have to do what you have to do.

lol 2 yrs down the road reward wil half again and mining will almost come to a grinding halt it will all be about tradeing then lol

BSGMiner

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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)

Quote from: kano on March 24, 2018, 10:58:57 PM

Hashing is pseudo random ... transaction numbers are truly random ... it's all so random that it's pointless trying to find any sort of pattern.

There are no patterns to find in mining.

Old habits of trying to find an advantage are hard to break.

Humans... What gives?!

DaTongue

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Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 12:17:48 PM

Quote from: DaTongue on March 25, 2018, 12:11:18 PM

Hi there,

I can't connect today, I have this red message: "Too many failures, come back later"

Is it something usual?
Thanks,

DaTongue

Howdy! You'll have to send Kano a PM with your IP address. If you have too many failed log in attempts, it will lock the IP. It is a security feature of the pool to keep us safe from hackers.

weird, I don't understand why I would have some failed log .... Thanks for your advice, I will do it!

rem26

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Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:39:22 AM

Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 11:23:19 AM

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:16:01 AM

surprised ppl keep getting more machines online though the profit non existent now for those who have to pay fer electricity assuming the machine life of 2 years.

I pay .14kwh, and made near $200usd, at current BTCprice, the last 30 days. Recently went to a buyers consultation for Solar. If all goes smoothly, I'll be hooked up by summer.

Edit: the cost of Solar is .05kwh in my case. And after its paid off, obviously free.

yes some places are definitely cheaper fer electricity but for Americans it must be getting to be a lost cause in most areas. here in Canada its cheep as dirt but still takes a year jst to pay for the s9

Power across the US varies wildly depending on local markets.

I pay $0.06 USD per KWH, ag farm rate.

Shazam!!!

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#takeminingback

Quote from: DaTongue on March 25, 2018, 12:11:18 PM

Hi there,

I can't connect today, I have this red message: "Too many failures, come back later"

Is it something usual?
Thanks,

DaTongue

Howdy! You'll have to send Kano a PM with your IP address. If you have too many failed log in attempts, it will lock the IP. It is a security feature of the pool to keep us safe from hackers.

rifleman74

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4 s9's 2 821's

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:39:22 AM

Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 11:23:19 AM

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:16:01 AM

surprised ppl keep getting more machines online though the profit non existent now for those who have to pay fer electricity assuming the machine life of 2 years.

I pay .14kwh, and made near $200usd, at current BTCprice, the last 30 days. Recently went to a buyers consultation for Solar. If all goes smoothly, I'll be hooked up by summer.

Edit: the cost of Solar is .05kwh in my case. And after its paid off, obviously free.

yes some places are definitely cheaper fer electricity but for Americans it must be getting to be a lost cause in most areas. here in Canada its cheep as dirt but still takes a year jst to pay for the s9

Some people can mine at a loss, for future profits. Don't look at it as a short-term solution, think of 1-2 years down the road. That said, if you can't afford your electrical bills now, you have to do what you have to do.

DaTongue

newbie

Activity: 12

Merit: 0

Hi there,

I can't connect today, I have this red message: "Too many failures, come back later"

Is it something usual?
Thanks,

DaTongue

Shazam!!!

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Activity: 350

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#takeminingback

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:39:22 AM

Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 11:23:19 AM

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:16:01 AM

surprised ppl keep getting more machines online though the profit non existent now for those who have to pay fer electricity assuming the machine life of 2 years.

I pay .14kwh, and made near $200usd, at current BTCprice, the last 30 days. Recently went to a buyers consultation for Solar. If all goes smoothly, I'll be hooked up by summer.

Edit: the cost of Solar is .05kwh in my case. And after its paid off, obviously free.

yes some places are definitely cheaper fer electricity but for Americans it must be getting to be a lost cause in most areas. here in Canada its cheep as dirt but still takes a year jst to pay for the s9

Totally agree, with BTC price being where it's at, ROI, will take longer. Kinda makes me Happy I bought mine with BTC I bought at $170 back in 2015. Wink

HawkmasterUK

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I am in the UK and was on 14.7p per KW now on 10.7p with a new company

gaud

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Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 11:23:19 AM

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:16:01 AM

surprised ppl keep getting more machines online though the profit non existent now for those who have to pay fer electricity assuming the machine life of 2 years.

I pay .14kwh, and made near $200usd, at current BTCprice, the last 30 days. Recently went to a buyers consultation for Solar. If all goes smoothly, I'll be hooked up by summer.

Edit: the cost of Solar is .05kwh in my case. And after its paid off, obviously free.

yes some places are definitely cheaper fer electricity but for Americans it must be getting to be a lost cause in most areas. here in Canada its cheep as dirt but still takes a year jst to pay for the s9

Jeremiah1610

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My county has a co-op for electric. Only 8cents here no matter the time or the amount.

Shazam!!!

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#takeminingback

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 11:16:01 AM

surprised ppl keep getting more machines online though the profit non existent now for those who have to pay fer electricity assuming the machine life of 2 years.

I pay .14kwh, and made near $200usd, at current BTCprice, the last 30 days. Recently went to a buyers consultation for Solar. If all goes smoothly, I'll be hooked up by summer.

Edit: the cost of Solar is .05kwh in my case. And after its paid off, obviously free.

Tnaa97

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Mine on!!

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 10:44:05 AM

Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 09:46:47 AM

Quote from: Apprentice on March 25, 2018, 09:25:26 AM

Hello community experts

Need to get your advise on something.

did any of you tried connecting 2 S9s to one 5" exhaust? I am running out of space and need to "combine exhausts".

I am using a 1.5m length 5" ducting for each S9 and it appears to me from the airflow at the end of that 5" ducting can support more air flow as it is not that strong.
my S9 fans are mostly running at 4280 rpm. Ropm temp is 18C.

Thanks.

I believe if you run both into a single 5in, you will see a rise in your board temps. You will increase your fans "static pressure",
which in turn, lowers the cfm. However, if you increase the size of the single pipe to 8in or at best 10in, the cfm should be
tolerable for good board temps.

u could also run a extra exit fan at end off the pipe to draw the heat away from the machine\

Also, never use flexible duct. The interior of a flexible duct becomes restricted at every bend (exponential). Round metal duct is cheap and easy to run. https://www.homedepot.com/p/6-in-x-5-ft-Round-Metal-Duct-Pipe-CP6X60/100125106

gaud

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Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 11:12:40 AM

Quote from: gaud on March 25, 2018, 10:44:05 AM

Quote from: Shazam!!! on March 25, 2018, 09:46:47 AM

Quote from: Apprentice on March 25, 2018, 09:25:26 AM

Hello community experts

Need to get your advise on something.

did any of you tried connecting 2 S9s to one 5" exhaust? I am running out of space and need to "combine exhausts".

I am using a 1.5m length 5" ducting for each S9 and it appears to me from the airflow at the end of that 5" ducting can support more air flow as it is not that strong.
my S9 fans are mostly running at 4280 rpm. Ropm temp is 18C.

Thanks.

I believe if you run both into a single 5in, you will see a rise in your board temps. You will increase your fans "static pressure",
which in turn, lowers the cfm. However, if you increase the size of the single pipe to 8in or at best 10in, the cfm should be
tolerable for good board temps.

u could also run a extra exit fan at end off the pipe to draw the heat away from the machine\

True, but that fan would have to be around 8000 rpm, to relieve the static pressure of the 2x4280 fans.

if of same size and same blade design yep min of 8k would suggest shooting for 10 though. surprised ppl keep getting more machines online though the profit non existent now for those who have to pay fer electricity assuming the machine life of 2 years.

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