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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 410. (Read 5352229 times)

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The payouts are sent when we find out next block (for free) unless someone else picks up our payment (at low fee) first. I can see the pending payment in my wallet (electrum).

OK, thanks for letting me know.
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The payouts are sent when we find out next block (for free) unless someone else picks up our payment (at low fee) first. I can see the pending payment in my wallet (electrum).
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anyone use awesome miner?

any feedback on it?

yep i love it and support is good
newbie
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My payment page says a payment has been sent for block 512233   . The block has already had it's 101 confirmations and has matured. I have not received the payment. How long does this take or have I made some error.

Thank you,

Jay
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Mine ON!!!
anyone use awesome miner?

any feedback on it?
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4 s9's 2 821's

FYI: it will no doubt be the next Bitmain miner after the S9 that openly includes AsicBoost

what is the point of openly including it?
if you include it openly, than you cannot sneakily mine by yourself at a higher speed than your customers.
Well there's a few reasons.
One of them is that it's already 'public' knowledge that it was in the S9 ... certainly after I posted their doc saying that they had it, long ago.

Secondly, it would allow them to create an S11 without having to do any hashing chip design changes.
They'll be able to say "Hey here's the new S11 that's 10-20% faster" but all they need to do is some firmware changes and possibly minor hardware changes.

Lastly, there's someone in the IRC channels from Bitmain who knows about these things and tells some people Smiley

Bitmain has been doing it already for a very long time - I guess the 2nd option above might be the most convincing reason for them to do it now.
They finally have some competition: Canaan with the A8


So Bitmain can continue to sell the s9 in a different form with this asicboost without really doing anything.   Interesting...
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

FYI: it will no doubt be the next Bitmain miner after the S9 that openly includes AsicBoost

what is the point of openly including it?
if you include it openly, than you cannot sneakily mine by yourself at a higher speed than your customers.
Well there's a few reasons.
One of them is that it's already 'public' knowledge that it was in the S9 ... certainly after I posted their doc saying that they had it, long ago.

Secondly, it would allow them to create an S11 without having to do any hashing chip design changes.
They'll be able to say "Hey here's the new S11 that's 10-20% faster" but all they need to do is some firmware changes and possibly minor hardware changes.

Lastly, there's someone in the IRC channels from Bitmain who knows about these things and tells some people Smiley

Bitmain has been doing it already for a very long time - I guess the 2nd option above might be the most convincing reason for them to do it now.
They finally have some competition: Canaan with the A8
legendary
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FYI: it will no doubt be the next Bitmain miner after the S9 that openly includes AsicBoost

what is the point of openly including it?
if you include it openly, than you cannot sneakily mine by yourself at a higher speed than your customers.
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Meanwhile Smiley
Lulz about the stratum changes everyone is following orders from Bitmain to do Smiley
I did say before that slush had grown really fast recently and most likely thanks to Bitmain ... no doubt due to the fact that he's implemented a change in his pool for Bitmain Smiley

Yes Bitmain does control more than 50% of Bitcoin ... and people fall in line to do as Bitmain says Smiley

FYI: it will no doubt be the next Bitmain miner after the S9 that openly includes AsicBoost, whereas before it was supposed to be a secret until I posted the Bitmain docs about it when they put it in the S9 Tongue

What is the change they're asking for? (Seems like whatever it is, the pool won't do it.)
legendary
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Meanwhile Smiley
Lulz about the stratum changes everyone is following orders from Bitmain to do Smiley
I did say before that slush had grown really fast recently and most likely thanks to Bitmain ... no doubt due to the fact that he's implemented a change in his pool for Bitmain Smiley

Yes Bitmain does control more than 50% of Bitcoin ... and people fall in line to do as Bitmain says Smiley

FYI: it will no doubt be the next Bitmain miner after the S9 that openly includes AsicBoost, whereas before it was supposed to be a secret until I posted the Bitmain docs about it when they put it in the S9 Tongue
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
... and just to point out what is probably the most important point about the "Monthly Statistics"

It's the blocks found in that month - not the hashing done in that month.

Meaning, it will include the hashing done at the end of the previous month after the last block found in the previous month.
It's about the actual blocks and total hashes for those blocks (to get the "Expected" value), not about predicting anything (predicting is pointless)
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
(If this is not the dedicated thread for general Kano pool question then please let me know exactly where... I could not find a link to allow me to start a new topic... not super intuitive for new user)

How is the "Expected Block Found" calculated in the Kano mining pool monthly statistics, future blocks?  How is this projected?  Kano pool projects 1.4 expected blocks in March.  Most months in the past 12 months have projected 40-60 expected blocks.  Why is it so much lower now in March.  Also, where can I get more information defining the other columns in the "Monthly Statistics" graph on the Kano mining pool:  Mean Diff%, Mean Tx%, CDF [Erl], Luck %, PAPPS%, etc.

Here are some of the items:

Mean TX% = Average Transaction Fees over the found blocks in the month listed

CDF = Cumulative Distribution Function (CDF)...it shows the probability that a block will be found after a given number of submitted shares.  The faster the block is the smaller that number gets...

Luck% = Our luck.  100% is expected, higher is better luck and lower is worse luck.

PAPPS = Pool Average PPS%: MeanTx% * Luck% - Pool Fee (compares us to a PPS Pool)

EDIT:

Mean Diff% = is the Average Share Difficulty the pool submitted in the found blocks; the smaller the better.  I think this is right; help me out on this one folks Grin

Erl = Erlang distribution (this is worth looking up with Google)

CDF[Erl] = the CDF of the Erlang distribution of the range of blocks for the given mean.
legendary
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(If this is not the dedicated thread for general Kano pool question then please let me know exactly where... I could not find a link to allow me to start a new topic... not super intuitive for new user)

How is the "Expected Block Found" calculated in the Kano mining pool monthly statistics, future blocks?  How is this projected?  Kano pool projects 1.4 expected blocks in March.  Most months in the past 12 months have projected 40-60 expected blocks.  Why is it so much lower now in March.  Also, where can I get more information defining the other columns in the "Monthly Statistics" graph on the Kano mining pool:  Mean Diff%, Mean Tx%, CDF [Erl], Luck %, PAPPS%, etc.

It's just the expected blocks so far this month. It changes every time a block is found and is calculated based on the current hashing power of the pool against the current network difficulty. The other months are historically accurate.

Someone with more time will be along to explain the rest, no doubt.
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
(If this is not the dedicated thread for general Kano pool question then please let me know exactly where... I could not find a link to allow me to start a new topic... not super intuitive for new user)

How is the "Expected Block Found" calculated in the Kano mining pool monthly statistics, future blocks?  How is this projected?  Kano pool projects 1.4 expected blocks in March.  Most months in the past 12 months have projected 40-60 expected blocks.  Why is it so much lower now in March.  Also, where can I get more information defining the other columns in the "Monthly Statistics" graph on the Kano mining pool:  Mean Diff%, Mean Tx%, CDF [Erl], Luck %, PAPPS%, etc.

Expected blocks is what we were expected to have at the instant of the last block found based on pool hash rate and current network diff.  When we hit our 3rd block of March, 100% (expected) luck says we should have been at 2.54 blocks which means we are ahead of schedule so far.  This table does not show anything about the future, just where we are on each block found.

If you want an estimate of future expected blocks you can use any of the calculators out there to see an estimate based on current pool hash rate and current diff; our average pool rate for March is 47.34PH and our expected blocks a month is around 8.68 blocks at the current network difficulty.

Here is Kano's calculator: http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php
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4 s9's 2 821's
(If this is not the dedicated thread for general Kano pool question then please let me know exactly where... I could not find a link to allow me to start a new topic... not super intuitive for new user)

How is the "Expected Block Found" calculated in the Kano mining pool monthly statistics, future blocks?  How is this projected?  Kano pool projects 1.4 expected blocks in March.  Most months in the past 12 months have projected 40-60 expected blocks.  Why is it so much lower now in March.  Also, where can I get more information defining the other columns in the "Monthly Statistics" graph on the Kano mining pool:  Mean Diff%, Mean Tx%, CDF [Erl], Luck %, PAPPS%, etc.

It's lower because we're only 6 days through March.  It updates with each block.  However it can be misleading if you go on a long period of not finding a block near the end of the month like in January  January's numbers look better than they actually ended up being. 
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4 s9's 2 821's
Nothing wrong with a good block party.   Right now 1/2 of my miners are down due to breakers being replaced at the co-location place (then other half tomorrow) but I don't care, it's still mining on with kano-san!!!



BTC MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
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The wait on new miners to arrive can be brutal - I want to find some blocks. Come on Bitmain, HalongMint, Canaan - let's ship more product!
newbie
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I'm starting to get spoiled, waking up to BTClocks!!! Thanks sidewinder!!!

Thank You Sidewinder!  Let's get another!
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
wow whata call lol
My only regret is calling it too soon--not that it would've changed anything (I'm no "BTC Whisperer")--since I don't think sidewinder was ramped up enough to qualify for the 0.5 BTC giveaway yet. Cry
newbie
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What’s listed on the rewards page is all you get after the 100 confirmations?
(That’s minuscule for three days of hashing.) Am I missing something?
Why is my N avg only 15% of my hashrate?

Thank you,
Jay
Because you mined 15% of the payout range?
N Range = 406hr 58m 22s

It's similar to: if we paid 1 day's mining and you mined for half a day, you'd expect to get 1/2 as much.
However, here we paid 407hrs of work, but since you only mined for 15% of it, you got 15% of your expected reward.

However, as the Help->Payouts page explains, your shares will still be rewarded in the 5Nd that follows.
Have a read of that page to get the gist of it Smiley

Thank you for the explanation!
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