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Yrth

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Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 02:06:40 PM

Quote from: kano on February 08, 2018, 02:34:35 AM

Time? Nope - the first block ever found on the pool was pretty slow coz the pool was tiny.
It was also lucky (less than 100%)

However, Diff% is what matters for rewards, and this one is 542% at the moment.

The 2 largest are there on the Web site Blocks page at the end of October - the largest being 928.788%

Now for that CDF related number

0.99557285335217 542.000% 1 in 225.9
i.e. we expect to average, over time, 1 in 225.9 blocks to be over 542%

Out of curiosity what is the actual number of blocks over 542% since the beginning of the pool? Including the block we're on now we have 4 out of the last 88 listed on the blocks page (or 1 in 22).

I only have the stats from when I first joined. But since block 141, we have had 10 blocks 500% or greater. That number doesn't include orphan blocks.

Tnaa97

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Mine on!!

Quote from: perfectplus174 on February 08, 2018, 05:02:32 PM

Quote from: clgrissom3 on February 08, 2018, 04:11:54 PM

Quote from: perfectplus174 on February 08, 2018, 04:00:35 PM

Quote from: clgrissom3 on February 08, 2018, 03:42:54 PM

Quote from: wavelengthsf on February 08, 2018, 03:37:53 PM

Quote from: Tnaa97 on February 08, 2018, 02:50:07 PM

Can someone tell me what the advantage of the Antminer V9, 4TH/s is?
Looking at the specs,

Antminer V9, 4TH/s 253mJ/MH+10%
Antminer S9, 13.5TH/s 0.098 J/GH +10%

Can someone standardize those specs for me?

The V9 is basically a re-branded S7. Unless you have free power, you should avoid it.

The V9's efficiency is 0.257 J/GH +10%, not even in the same ballpark as the S9 with 0.098 J/GH +10%. Notice how they went with a different set of units so you couldn't do a direct comparison?

To be fair, the V9 isn't supposed to compare with an S9. If you're talking all out efficiency, the S9 takes the cake.....and is priced accordingly at almost 8x the initial cost. ROI should also be taken into account, not just power consumption.

The cost of electricity for different areas as well and may not be as big of a factor for some, if any at all (solar).

Also, don't rule out the reward price in BTC at market value.

My main point is that we all mine at different levels with different factors involved so it's really hard to pinpoint what would/would not work for someone's situation without a better picture of what they were comparing or trying to achieve.

If you were to compare

To be fair, I was just answering @Tnaa97 request to standardize those specs.

To be fair, it was a general statement, not necessarily in response to your comment. I was just responding in a chain, not specific to your quote. We are in agreement on apples to oranges comparison

So is the T9+ the most efficient at 136mJ/GH+7%?

Thanks Everyone.

VRobb

hero member

Activity: 1610

Merit: 538

I'm in BTC XTC

2a - that is correct, just as it sounds.
2b - I've scrolled down that far! Cheesy

BSGMiner

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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)

Still intrigued by Diff & Share--namely on the Workers>Shifts page...

First, I get that Shares * Avg Share (or Stratum Difficulty, right?) = Diff.

Example (from my humble 3.5THs Avalon6):
Your Diff__Diff__Avg Hs__Shares__Avg Share
2.552M___0____3.61THs_950____2,686.00
2.549M___0____3.69THs_622____4,098.00

By adjusting the Stratum Difficulty to keep the Shares at ~18/min, it just seems like multiple ways to get to a similar Diff.

My multi-part question is:
1a. What benefit is there to setting a higher vs. lower Stratum Difficulty if we are paid per Share?
1b. Wouldn't we want our Stratum Difficulty to be lower and, hence, get more Shares?
2a. Or, are we paid per Diff instead--almost like how it sounds according to the fine print* at the bottom of the Workers>Shifts page?
2b. Has anyone else ever scrolled down this far, or is there an award for finding this Easter egg?

Quote from: https://kano.is/index.php?k=shifts

*The Rewarded value unit is satoshis per 1000diff share.

perfectplus174

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Quote from: clgrissom3 on February 08, 2018, 04:11:54 PM

Quote from: perfectplus174 on February 08, 2018, 04:00:35 PM

Quote from: clgrissom3 on February 08, 2018, 03:42:54 PM

Quote from: wavelengthsf on February 08, 2018, 03:37:53 PM

Quote from: Tnaa97 on February 08, 2018, 02:50:07 PM

Can someone tell me what the advantage of the Antminer V9, 4TH/s is?
Looking at the specs,

Antminer V9, 4TH/s 253mJ/MH+10%
Antminer S9, 13.5TH/s 0.098 J/GH +10%

Can someone standardize those specs for me?

The V9 is basically a re-branded S7. Unless you have free power, you should avoid it.

The V9's efficiency is 0.257 J/GH +10%, not even in the same ballpark as the S9 with 0.098 J/GH +10%. Notice how they went with a different set of units so you couldn't do a direct comparison?

To be fair, the V9 isn't supposed to compare with an S9. If you're talking all out efficiency, the S9 takes the cake.....and is priced accordingly at almost 8x the initial cost. ROI should also be taken into account, not just power consumption.

The cost of electricity for different areas as well and may not be as big of a factor for some, if any at all (solar).

Also, don't rule out the reward price in BTC at market value.

My main point is that we all mine at different levels with different factors involved so it's really hard to pinpoint what would/would not work for someone's situation without a better picture of what they were comparing or trying to achieve.

If you were to compare

To be fair, I was just answering @Tnaa97 request to standardize those specs.

To be fair, it was a general statement, not necessarily in response to your comment. I was just responding in a chain, not specific to your quote. We are in agreement on apples to oranges comparison

clgrissom3

legendary

Activity: 1736

Merit: 1032

Carl, aka Sonny :)

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 04:45:58 PM

Quote from: akadamson on February 08, 2018, 04:43:07 PM

he answered a question he thought was asked... maybe it wasn't what you asked, but I certainty didn't see a smart ass response in it.

You don't think the "pretty easy to do" comment was being a smart ass?

Regardless we are all on the same team so it's good to keep things civil and relaxed here Grin

We all try to help each other out even if we don't understand the questions fully.

rifleman74

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Activity: 658

Merit: 21

4 s9's 2 821's

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 04:45:58 PM

Quote from: akadamson on February 08, 2018, 04:43:07 PM

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 04:31:52 PM

Quote from: rifleman74 on February 08, 2018, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 02:06:40 PM

Quote from: kano on February 08, 2018, 02:34:35 AM

Time? Nope - the first block ever found on the pool was pretty slow coz the pool was tiny.
It was also lucky (less than 100%)

However, Diff% is what matters for rewards, and this one is 542% at the moment.

The 2 largest are there on the Web site Blocks page at the end of October - the largest being 928.788%

Now for that CDF related number

0.99557285335217 542.000% 1 in 225.9
i.e. we expect to average, over time, 1 in 225.9 blocks to be over 542%

Out of curiosity what is the actual number of blocks over 542% since the beginning of the pool? Including the block we're on now we have 4 out of the last 88 listed on the blocks page (or 1 in 22).

subtract the last block we found from the last block found on the website. Pretty easy to do.

2834 blocks as of right now.

Huh? How does that answer my question smart ass?

careful, because most of us just read your response in the same way.

he answered a question he thought was asked... maybe it wasn't what you asked, but I certainty didn't see a smart ass response in it.

You don't think the "pretty easy to do" comment was being a smart ass?

Easy there sparkplug.

dkincaid

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Quote from: akadamson on February 08, 2018, 04:43:07 PM

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 04:31:52 PM

Quote from: rifleman74 on February 08, 2018, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 02:06:40 PM

Quote from: kano on February 08, 2018, 02:34:35 AM

Time? Nope - the first block ever found on the pool was pretty slow coz the pool was tiny.
It was also lucky (less than 100%)

However, Diff% is what matters for rewards, and this one is 542% at the moment.

The 2 largest are there on the Web site Blocks page at the end of October - the largest being 928.788%

Now for that CDF related number

0.99557285335217 542.000% 1 in 225.9
i.e. we expect to average, over time, 1 in 225.9 blocks to be over 542%

Out of curiosity what is the actual number of blocks over 542% since the beginning of the pool? Including the block we're on now we have 4 out of the last 88 listed on the blocks page (or 1 in 22).

subtract the last block we found from the last block found on the website. Pretty easy to do.

2834 blocks as of right now.

Huh? How does that answer my question smart ass?

careful, because most of us just read your response in the same way.

he answered a question he thought was asked... maybe it wasn't what you asked, but I certainty didn't see a smart ass response in it.

You don't think the "pretty easy to do" comment was being a smart ass?

akadamson

member

Activity: 140

Merit: 18

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 04:31:52 PM

Quote from: rifleman74 on February 08, 2018, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 02:06:40 PM

Quote from: kano on February 08, 2018, 02:34:35 AM

Time? Nope - the first block ever found on the pool was pretty slow coz the pool was tiny.
It was also lucky (less than 100%)

However, Diff% is what matters for rewards, and this one is 542% at the moment.

The 2 largest are there on the Web site Blocks page at the end of October - the largest being 928.788%

Now for that CDF related number

0.99557285335217 542.000% 1 in 225.9
i.e. we expect to average, over time, 1 in 225.9 blocks to be over 542%

Out of curiosity what is the actual number of blocks over 542% since the beginning of the pool? Including the block we're on now we have 4 out of the last 88 listed on the blocks page (or 1 in 22).

subtract the last block we found from the last block found on the website. Pretty easy to do.

2834 blocks as of right now.

Huh? How does that answer my question smart ass?

careful, because most of us just read your response in the same way.

he answered a question he thought was asked... maybe it wasn't what you asked, but I certainty didn't see a smart ass response in it.

Thrash

sr. member

Activity: 519

Merit: 253

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 04:31:52 PM

Quote from: rifleman74 on February 08, 2018, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 02:06:40 PM

Quote from: kano on February 08, 2018, 02:34:35 AM

Time? Nope - the first block ever found on the pool was pretty slow coz the pool was tiny.
It was also lucky (less than 100%)

However, Diff% is what matters for rewards, and this one is 542% at the moment.

The 2 largest are there on the Web site Blocks page at the end of October - the largest being 928.788%

Now for that CDF related number

0.99557285335217 542.000% 1 in 225.9
i.e. we expect to average, over time, 1 in 225.9 blocks to be over 542%

Out of curiosity what is the actual number of blocks over 542% since the beginning of the pool? Including the block we're on now we have 4 out of the last 88 listed on the blocks page (or 1 in 22).

subtract the last block we found from the last block found on the website. Pretty easy to do.

2834 blocks as of right now.

Huh? How does that answer my question smart ass?

I think he just misunderstood your question. It would be interesting to see a break down of the block times since the beginning. Maybe we are due for an extended streak of 25% blocks. Wink

dkincaid

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Quote from: rifleman74 on February 08, 2018, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 02:06:40 PM

Quote from: kano on February 08, 2018, 02:34:35 AM

Time? Nope - the first block ever found on the pool was pretty slow coz the pool was tiny.
It was also lucky (less than 100%)

However, Diff% is what matters for rewards, and this one is 542% at the moment.

The 2 largest are there on the Web site Blocks page at the end of October - the largest being 928.788%

Now for that CDF related number

0.99557285335217 542.000% 1 in 225.9
i.e. we expect to average, over time, 1 in 225.9 blocks to be over 542%

Out of curiosity what is the actual number of blocks over 542% since the beginning of the pool? Including the block we're on now we have 4 out of the last 88 listed on the blocks page (or 1 in 22).

subtract the last block we found from the last block found on the website. Pretty easy to do.

2834 blocks as of right now.

Huh? How does that answer my question smart ass?

clgrissom3

legendary

Activity: 1736

Merit: 1032

Carl, aka Sonny :)

Quote from: perfectplus174 on February 08, 2018, 04:00:35 PM

Quote from: clgrissom3 on February 08, 2018, 03:42:54 PM

Quote from: wavelengthsf on February 08, 2018, 03:37:53 PM

Quote from: Tnaa97 on February 08, 2018, 02:50:07 PM

Can someone tell me what the advantage of the Antminer V9, 4TH/s is?
Looking at the specs,

Antminer V9, 4TH/s 253mJ/MH+10%
Antminer S9, 13.5TH/s 0.098 J/GH +10%

Can someone standardize those specs for me?

The V9 is basically a re-branded S7. Unless you have free power, you should avoid it.

The V9's efficiency is 0.257 J/GH +10%, not even in the same ballpark as the S9 with 0.098 J/GH +10%. Notice how they went with a different set of units so you couldn't do a direct comparison?

To be fair, the V9 isn't supposed to compare with an S9. If you're talking all out efficiency, the S9 takes the cake.....and is priced accordingly at almost 8x the initial cost. ROI should also be taken into account, not just power consumption.

The cost of electricity for different areas as well and may not be as big of a factor for some, if any at all (solar).

Also, don't rule out the reward price in BTC at market value.

My main point is that we all mine at different levels with different factors involved so it's really hard to pinpoint what would/would not work for someone's situation without a better picture of what they were comparing or trying to achieve.

If you were to compare

To be fair, I was just answering @Tnaa97 request to standardize those specs.

rifleman74

member

Activity: 658

Merit: 21

4 s9's 2 821's

Quote from: dkincaid on February 08, 2018, 02:06:40 PM

Quote from: kano on February 08, 2018, 02:34:35 AM

Time? Nope - the first block ever found on the pool was pretty slow coz the pool was tiny.
It was also lucky (less than 100%)

However, Diff% is what matters for rewards, and this one is 542% at the moment.

The 2 largest are there on the Web site Blocks page at the end of October - the largest being 928.788%

Now for that CDF related number

0.99557285335217 542.000% 1 in 225.9
i.e. we expect to average, over time, 1 in 225.9 blocks to be over 542%

Out of curiosity what is the actual number of blocks over 542% since the beginning of the pool? Including the block we're on now we have 4 out of the last 88 listed on the blocks page (or 1 in 22).

subtract the last block we found from the last block found on the website. Pretty easy to do.

2834 blocks as of right now.

perfectplus174

jr. member

Activity: 168

Merit: 2

Quote from: clgrissom3 on February 08, 2018, 03:42:54 PM

Quote from: wavelengthsf on February 08, 2018, 03:37:53 PM

Quote from: Tnaa97 on February 08, 2018, 02:50:07 PM

Can someone tell me what the advantage of the Antminer V9, 4TH/s is?
Looking at the specs,

Antminer V9, 4TH/s 253mJ/MH+10%
Antminer S9, 13.5TH/s 0.098 J/GH +10%

Can someone standardize those specs for me?

The V9 is basically a re-branded S7. Unless you have free power, you should avoid it.

The V9's efficiency is 0.257 J/GH +10%, not even in the same ballpark as the S9 with 0.098 J/GH +10%. Notice how they went with a different set of units so you couldn't do a direct comparison?

To be fair, the V9 isn't supposed to compare with an S9. If you're talking all out efficiency, the S9 takes the cake.....and is priced accordingly at almost 8x the initial cost. ROI should also be taken into account, not just power consumption.

The cost of electricity for different areas as well and may not be as big of a factor for some, if any at all (solar).

Also, don't rule out the reward price in BTC at market value.

My main point is that we all mine at different levels with different factors involved so it's really hard to pinpoint what would/would not work for someone's situation without a better picture of what they were comparing or trying to achieve.

If you were to compare

clgrissom3

legendary

Activity: 1736

Merit: 1032

Carl, aka Sonny :)

Quote from: wavelengthsf on February 08, 2018, 03:37:53 PM

Quote from: Tnaa97 on February 08, 2018, 02:50:07 PM

Can someone tell me what the advantage of the Antminer V9, 4TH/s is?
Looking at the specs,

Antminer V9, 4TH/s 253mJ/MH+10%
Antminer S9, 13.5TH/s 0.098 J/GH +10%

Can someone standardize those specs for me?

The V9 is basically a re-branded S7. Unless you have free power, you should avoid it.

The V9's efficiency is 0.257 J/GH +10%, not even in the same ballpark as the S9 with 0.098 J/GH +10%. Notice how they went with a different set of units so you couldn't do a direct comparison?

VRobb

hero member

Activity: 1610

Merit: 538

I'm in BTC XTC

253mJ/MH = 0.253J/GH

Edit- Ha, for once I beat carl! Cheesy

Mine on and crack a block already dammit!! Cool

wavelengthsf

full member

Activity: 658

Merit: 118

Quote from: Tnaa97 on February 08, 2018, 02:50:07 PM

Can someone tell me what the advantage of the Antminer V9, 4TH/s is?
Looking at the specs,

Antminer V9, 4TH/s 253mJ/MH+10%
Antminer S9, 13.5TH/s 0.098 J/GH +10%

Can someone standardize those specs for me?

The V9 is basically a re-branded S7. Unless you have free power, you should avoid it. The theory I saw is that Bitmain is trying to get rid of their internal mining capacity due to the government crackdown in China, so they're selling them off.

perfectplus174

jr. member

Activity: 168

Merit: 2

I'm assuming everyone is going S9, however Parallel Miner has in stock Avalon's and S7's (new and used)
https://www.parallelminer.com/product-category/asic-miner/

Tnaa97

jr. member

Activity: 76

Merit: 1

Mine on!!

Can someone tell me what the advantage of the Antminer V9, 4TH/s is?
Looking at the specs,

Antminer V9, 4TH/s 253mJ/MH+10%
Antminer S9, 13.5TH/s 0.098 J/GH +10%

Can someone standardize those specs for me?

perfectplus174

jr. member

Activity: 168

Merit: 2

Quote from: mdefehr on February 08, 2018, 10:16:51 AM

Didn't we used to sacrifice anime characters when blocks got long? Maybe we need to go back to that...

Has anyone tried the Mudokon chant on these blocks yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNgd8TeFp0Y

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