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VRobb

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I'm in BTC XTC

Actually kano and Canaan have been working together for some time now. We used to have contests where someone could win an Avalon miner (I never did, darn it!) and if you check the pool stats you'll see Canaan does their burn-in testing here.
Mine On! Cool

YabaDabaDoo

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I use Avalon 741's which I've got in summer. They're not as powerful as Shitmain but from reading the forums they work without breaking for far longer and apparently they're brand new not like Shitmain.

Next Avalon's are coming out next year, might consider them over Shitmain

mtaboneweb

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Beyond Bitmain and their Antminer S9's, is there anything else out there worth considering? I've bought 4 now but if I was going for a 5th I would consider something else. My concern is that maybe the S9's will start fading and something newer/better is just around the corner either from Bitmain or someone else. Of course the issue is always whether you can find something in stock and have the money in the right place to act fast enough to get it.

Thoughts?

And if I'm stepping out of line with the purpose of the thread please let me know.

mtaboneweb

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Quote from: minergain.com on December 28, 2017, 12:38:15 PM

Quote from: lrowland21093 on December 28, 2017, 12:35:15 PM

Just don't get discouraged when you don't see much in the way of payouts in the first few found blocks - it takes a few weeks to fully ramp up. (I'm still working on getting to full level myself.)

very true. Just remember that it is a benefit to keep pool hoppers from popping in, taking your reward and then leaving again. Also, your ramp up time will pay you on the ramp down time if you ever leave.

I'm in for the long term now... and will be adding my 2nd S9 tomorrow once it's delivered.

firetreeactual

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Quote from: beltsniffer on December 28, 2017, 12:45:40 PM

Quote from: AerialGopher on December 28, 2017, 03:32:48 AM

So Interesting fun fact. My new S9's some have firmware from July, while others have firmware from Nov 17, and a version like S9_V2.54 But on their website, they only have the newest from Aug 15.. Now Why would they not have the newest one on there? I had an issue with the first S9 I got like a month ago, with fan speed ramping constantly, the firmware fixed that so it stayed on more consistent. So Now I am baffled if I should overwrite the Nov 17 with the Aug 15 that had better fan control.

Any opinions?

They probably sent you refurbished miners or miners they used in their farm/hashnest.

If the miner is working properly, don't change the firmware. There have been stories of people bricking machines with newer firmware.

I agree...don't reflash your firmware. Personal experience. Most of us who have been mining for a long time have the belief that the company sends out used miners from their own farms, just cleaned up, as new. I've seen the same situation. I stopped buying Biteme early in 2017, either new or used, for the reasons enumerated on this board many, many times by many, many others...and because of what you've experienced.

Mine on. Kiss

beltsniffer

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Quote from: AerialGopher on December 28, 2017, 03:32:48 AM

So Interesting fun fact. My new S9's some have firmware from July, while others have firmware from Nov 17, and a version like S9_V2.54 But on their website, they only have the newest from Aug 15.. Now Why would they not have the newest one on there? I had an issue with the first S9 I got like a month ago, with fan speed ramping constantly, the firmware fixed that so it stayed on more consistent. So Now I am baffled if I should overwrite the Nov 17 with the Aug 15 that had better fan control.

Any opinions?

They probably sent you refurbished miners or miners they used in their farm/hashnest.

If the miner is working properly, don't change the firmware. There have been stories of people bricking machines with newer firmware.

minergain.com

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Quote from: lrowland21093 on December 28, 2017, 12:35:15 PM

Just don't get discouraged when you don't see much in the way of payouts in the first few found blocks - it takes a few weeks to fully ramp up. (I'm still working on getting to full level myself.)

very true. Just remember that it is a benefit to keep pool hoppers from popping in, taking your reward and then leaving again. Also, your ramp up time will pay you on the ramp down time if you ever leave.

firetreeactual

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Quote from: kano on December 27, 2017, 09:57:58 PM

Not sure how many people ever use BitPay to pay for anything, but they're landed themselves on my ban list ... well I guess you could say that they put themselves there, I can't use BitPay at the moment and probably wont want to ever again Tongue

It seems they no longer allow Bitcoin payments to an address, they require you to use a "Bitcoin Payment Protocol" (that's supposedly in core 0.15 but not in 0.14) that also decides your transaction fees for you ... hmm.

Every time I make payments I choose my fees, and every time I've used BitPay, it has said my fees were too low, even when my payments were picked up in the very next block on the network ...

I use Bitpay primarily to cash in coin to the card, but noticed your comment on how Bitpay (in an online transaction via one's Core) always tells you your fee is too low...I ignore it. The tx's still go through just fine.

I'd be in deep kimchee without the debit card, though.

lrowland21093

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Just don't get discouraged when you don't see much in the way of payouts in the first few found blocks.
It takes a few weeks to get fully "ramped up" on 5Nd. (I'm still working on getting to full level myself.)

mtaboneweb

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Switched to Kano as of now! Many thanks for the support/feedback.

lrowland21093

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Even with 0.9% fee, Kano's pools is one of the lowest for fees. It is also the most transparent pool with everything that happens clearly explained.
I was at slush for a long time and while that pool was okay, there were times when the fees seemed high and how it was working was unclear.

Kano's pool does seem to be the fairest and most transparent pool out there right now!

YabaDabaDoo

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Hi Kano,

Maybe you should run pool without fees until CNY?

mtaboneweb

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And this is why I'm switching... the last 5 block on Slush. Over 1.63+ Eh/s and my payout has been terrible.

32177   2017-12-28 12:28   00:32:37   1.641 Eh/s   13.44 Th/s   0.00012386 BTC   15.42786803 BTC   81
32176   2017-12-28 11:55   01:50:15   1.637 Eh/s   13.85 Th/s   0.00014958 BTC   18.04507801 BTC   77
32175   2017-12-28 10:05   02:19:53   1.637 Eh/s   13.24 Th/s   0.00013904 BTC   17.54267689 BTC   60
32174   2017-12-28 07:45   02:23:03   1.638 Eh/s   13.68 Th/s   0.00016289 BTC   19.90237385 BTC   48
32173   2017-12-28 05:22   01:30:50   1.642 Eh/s   12.96 Th/s   0.00013193 BTC   17.06004549 BTC   32

My last post on the Slush thread... Maybe this is overkill for me to keep such a close eye on it but I'm a programmer by profession so I have a tendency to analyze everything. I guess now that I looks at it... almost 8 days made 0.0211993 BTC which would be roughly 0.0806 BTC per month with some variations of course but... Kano has had a slow month and if things picked up next month the payout would be well worth the switch. I suspect this is somewhat skewed though because even going from 1.5 Eh/s to 1.6 Eh/s+ has dropped my block rewards a lot.

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I was getting better numbers when I first started but the pool hash rate jumped considerably shrinking my share per block. I was, at one point estimated to get my 0.01 payout every 3 days and 4 hours but when I left it had extended to 4 days. My payout per block started around 0.00018 to 0.00023+ but when I left I was getting 0.00012 to 0.00014.

1-S9
12/18 - 12/26 (I took into account only the blocks where I was over 13 Th/s). There were moments when I left and came back or was ramping up/down but I counted only blocks where I was hashing at full strength.

132 - Blocks I worked on (100%). 2 of these blocks were invalid.
1.521 - Eh/s Average pool hash rate for those 132 blocks
13.45 - Th/s Average for my single S9 for those 132 blocks

0.02119930 - Total Payout
0.00016060 - Per block
690,502 - Total seconds (7 days 23:48:22)

Taking the amount of seconds totaled and the amount earned I have these numbers...

0.03 - per minute
1.55 - per hour
37.14 - per day
259.95 - per week
1,126.47 - per month
13,517.60 - per year

lrowland21093

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I did a quick tool in Excel to help with calculations - this has probably been done so many times before already!
Anyway, here is it is along with formulas in case anyone wants to do it themselves (I can send the Excel if anyone asks but it isn't that complicated).

It will be interesting to see if the numbers start to line up over the next few weeks.

minergain.com

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Quote from: mtaboneweb on December 28, 2017, 11:44:47 AM

Is #xnsub needed? I know some pools require it.

I do not use #xnsub. Mine is just stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:3333 first and stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333 second
based on your ping stats, I think you would set it the same. kano.is is probably using a cdn..

mtaboneweb

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Just one final bit before I switch...

This worked for me before when I tried to see if I was connected so I'm assuming this is good. I was getting feedback that there was work being captured and I have a few dust payments that were accumulated.
Server: stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333#xnsub
Worker: mtaboneweb.AntMinerS91
Password: x

Is #xnsub needed? I know some pools require it.

Checking other URLS provided this...
kano.is (31ms average)
nl.kano.is (140ms average)
de.kano.is (160ms average)
jp.kano.is (timeout)
sg.kano.is (219ms average)
nya.kano.is (77ms average)

Thanks

mtaboneweb

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Quote from: minergain.com on December 28, 2017, 10:26:26 AM

You read it right... somewhere near .01BTC per block with an S9 and pool hash rate around 20 to 25PH. Many of them were closer to .009 with the 13 to 14BTC block reward.

Yes, home mining is really an issue if you rent - or have a spouse that likes quiet! Also, if I have my math right, a three phase 30A 208V can easily run 5 and likely 6 S9's on that one circuit.

Excellent, I am switching then. This is such a great thread and you guys are amazing. Thanks for being patient with me while I learn and all the feedback provided. It has helped me a great deal.

VRobb

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Quote from: chikenfeed on December 28, 2017, 11:10:32 AM

I don't know if kano can hear me but please look into my account please as I have not been paid in ages, I tallied up all the small amounts over the last few months and I should have been paid a few times, nothing since last year has actually made it to my account!
user: willsha
BTC wallet: 1NmY1s1x7qiz7ZMKQzYFttm1rDVxfTiPdj

What's your hashrate? If you're too low you'll be below the dust threshold of 0.0001BTC, but it'll get paid as soon as kanosan finishes the accounting code that he's been working on.

minergain.com

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Quote from: lrowland21093 on December 28, 2017, 11:03:12 AM

Assuming a more normal block size of about 16 it would be closer to about 0.00060/TH which would be 0.0081BTC for an S9.
Using a worst case of 8 blocks a month that is an estimate of somewhere between 0.06 - 0.08 BTC per month for each S9.

I posted my actual reward page for December so far with one S9 miner. You are not wrong - I have received .07313722. Actually the more "normal" block size is around 14... Obviously as difficulty continues to increase - who knows where this could go. But luck can go either way no matter what the difficulty. I like the 35 blocks in a month option. Lets shoot for that in January! Heck, lets do it in December!

chikenfeed

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I don't know if kano can hear me but please look into my account please as I have not been paid in ages, I tallied up all the small amounts over the last few months and I should have been paid a few times, nothing since last year has actually made it to my account!
user: willsha
BTC wallet: 1NmY1s1x7qiz7ZMKQzYFttm1rDVxfTiPdj

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