On the shift page there is a metric called "PPS%" What does that stand for? I know there is a payment scheme with the same name but since we use PPLNS I figure it must mean something else in this particular context.
Also, on the blocks page there is a percentage called PAPPS. What does that stand for? Google is surprisingly silent on this acronym.
Thanks!
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November 20, 2017, 04:37:28 PM
November 20, 2017, 03:29:57 PM
I got paid less for the last block than I did for the one before!
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early
Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.
Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early
Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Prior block was 19.0, last block was 14.7...that will account for a drop in rewards.
Ah yeah perfect! Thanks
Yeah bro, the one before last was humongous! We all got payed less for the last one, so no worries!
November 20, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
Again...payments for a block go out AFTER (1) the block receives 101 confirmations, and (2) the NEXT block is found. That's because we confirm our own blocks.
Patience, Grasshopper...
Patience, Grasshopper...
Not true, the last two (or two out of the last three) went out on their own.
I'm sure it will be. Kano has always sent payments. Probably just a hiccup in the system.
November 20, 2017, 01:25:41 PM
Again...payments for a block go out AFTER (1) the block receives 101 confirmations, and (2) the NEXT block is found. That's because we confirm our own blocks.
Patience, Grasshopper...
Patience, Grasshopper...
Not true, the last two (or two out of the last three) went out on their own.
November 20, 2017, 12:47:35 PM
yea didn't receive btc for this one yet.
November 20, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
They can be confirmed with any block. Its just a sure thing with our own.
After 100 confirmations Kano sends it out with a no or low fee that can be confirmed by any pool. I've see it take less than a day and it got included in someone else's block.
After 100 confirmations Kano sends it out with a no or low fee that can be confirmed by any pool. I've see it take less than a day and it got included in someone else's block.
November 20, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
Again...payments for a block go out AFTER (1) the block receives 101 confirmations, and (2) the NEXT block is found. That's because we confirm our own blocks.
Patience, Grasshopper...
Patience, Grasshopper...
Not true, the last two (or two out of the last three) went out on their own.
November 20, 2017, 11:51:37 AM
Again...payments for a block go out AFTER (1) the block receives 101 confirmations, and (2) the NEXT block is found. That's because we confirm our own blocks.
Patience, Grasshopper...
Patience, Grasshopper...
November 20, 2017, 11:48:20 AM
Just wondering did anyone else not get payment for todays block #495143? It says it was sent but i have not received it in my wallet.
Mine is not there either, not even an unconfirmed transaction. May be in the next block we mine then. MINE MINE MINE
November 20, 2017, 11:46:55 AM
Just wondering did anyone else not get payment for todays block #495143? It says it was sent but i have not received it in my wallet.
November 20, 2017, 11:12:36 AM
I got paid less for the last block than I did for the one before!
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.
Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early
Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Prior block was 19.0, last block was 14.7...that will account for a drop in rewards.
Ah yeah perfect! Thanks
November 20, 2017, 11:00:27 AM
I got paid less for the last block than I did for the one before!
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.
Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early
Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Block size, difference of almost 5BTC in it. The fees have gone back down to normal levels.
November 20, 2017, 10:20:29 AM
I got paid less for the last block than I did for the one before!
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.
Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early
Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Prior block was 19.0, last block was 14.7...that will account for a drop in rewards.
November 20, 2017, 09:50:31 AM
I got paid less for the last block than I did for the one before!
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.
Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
Sigh. Not sure how. I only lost 1 miner for 1 day, it should take a while for that to impact I thought, especially after we lost another 15PH. Oh well, still worth getting,
Another thing that kind of irritated me. I looked at the shipping notice from Minerwarez and say the shipping date is scheduled for the 28'th! I thought it had just shipped early
Never seen a notice go out a month before the item actually ships.Not that 7TH is a lot, but I'll take it. Just wish I could get a couple of boards for this S7 I have here. I think it is the boards, it only hashes 135GH.
November 20, 2017, 09:43:09 AM
I know that and that was I was trying to explain to the first guy commenting about it, telling him that it doesn’t update until the block is found, I said it would be like 20 expected when we hit the next block and then the Vblob said I was wrong and that it would be 13.6 expected, after that I corrected myself self saying that I just realized that it was only 4 days but seemed like forever. After that the Vblob started insulting me with his correct calculations,... and he was still wrong! It isn’t 13.6 it is 13.78! But close enough! I just might hire that boy to calculate my profits for me, I’m even willing to pay double of what his s5 dusts out! Lmao!
Yeah, I was replying to him, I know you know what's going on.
You both deserve the ignore button so goodbye math clowns!
November 20, 2017, 09:28:43 AM
Buttmain (ha, I still laugh when I see that written) just shipped my power supplies! (three months after I ordered) No update on the batch of S9s that should have shipped with them though. Anyone else get notified?
Still waiting for my November S9s (supposed to ship between now and next week sometime) - shows unshipped and no shipping notification yet.
November 20, 2017, 09:23:44 AM
Buttmain (ha, I still laugh when I see that written) just shipped my power supplies! (three months after I ordered) No update on the batch of S9s that should have shipped with them though. Anyone else get notified?
November 20, 2017, 08:29:12 AM
Well yes, that’s the way it works. If it took you to let’s say 10 Days to ramp up your hash rate then you will still be getting payed for the next 10 days even if you shut off your miners completely, for each block found. It’s just that it will be less and less for each block during those 10 days. That’s why when we got the rewards for the last block it said pool n average is still like 35ph when it has been less than that for a while now. So we just paying off the miners that have left a while back. That’s how I understand it anyway. . It’s very nice to have a system like that as long as there will be blocks found within those 10 days after you shut off. Lol
So it is the share that gets split into 5 pieces and distributed - not the reward. That helps. I am logging the hash rate and shares each minute from the Kano home page as well as individual miner info reported when someone decides to share the api code. I am pretty sure that is enough to "brute force" calculate the 5nd rate but I am not totally clear when to drop a 1/5th portion of the share since the time changes both for difficulty and total hash rate for the moment. I am starting to think that I am 'overthinking it' since it may just be as saving the share amount and time, 1/5th to be contributed immediately towards a reward and the rest of that share distributed after all the 1/5th chunks from everyone has exceeded the current difficulty. Then the next 1/5th starts in and so on till all 5 chunks has been used. Is that kindof the concept? If I can figure it out well enough, I am going to try to estimate the 5nd hash rate for the pool and possibly even the reward at this exact moment time based these hash rates and a "guess" of which transactions are included. Obviously I will never have an accurate reward value but may get close. Is it accurate that this information is not anywhere on the site or am I missing it? . It’s very nice to have a system like that as long as there will be blocks found within those 10 days after you shut off. Lol November 20, 2017, 05:26:53 AM
So if you have x amount of hash and have 100% 5nd and then add more hash, does that hash = 100% 5ND
Your reward is directly based on the number of shares you submitted in the last 5Nd.The problem is that people want to convert that to a hash rate
Of course.So I'll make up some numbers to explain that:
Lets say 5Nd is actually 5 days (that's not what it is right now)
Lets say you have 5THs and mine for 1 day then we find a block.
What is your 5Nd hash rate? 1THs ... 1/5
So my 5THs got ripped off? No. It is expected to get rewarded multiple times in the 5Nd from now.
The catch in all this, is understanding what is happening.
It's that each share you submit, is being rewarded over the 5Nd after you submit the share, which is expected to be 5 times (on average)
So how does this answer your question?
Well actually it does, that's also the catch
Your rewarded 5Nd hash rate will rise, over the 5Nd, from Old, to be Old + New, i.e. during the 5Nd it increases, not jumps up at the start.
Exactly the same as a new miner starting at Old=zero and Old+New=their hash rate.
this is easily the fairest (and most generous) payment system, as it works both ways!
i had to take my miners offline 5 days ago as i am restructuring and preparing for a new setup, but i sill got rewarded for the past 2 blocks!
Well yes, that’s the way it works. If it took you to let’s say 10 Days to ramp up your hash rate then you will still be getting payed for the next 10 days even if you shut off your miners completely, for each block found. It’s just that it will be less and less for each block during those 10 days. That’s why when we got the rewards for the last block it said pool n average is still like 35ph when it has been less than that for a while now. So we just paying off the miners that have left a while back. That’s how I understand it anyway.
. It’s very nice to have a system like that as long as there will be blocks found within those 10 days after you shut off. Lol November 20, 2017, 03:09:42 AM
So if you have x amount of hash and have 100% 5nd and then add more hash, does that hash = 100% 5ND
Your reward is directly based on the number of shares you submitted in the last 5Nd.The problem is that people want to convert that to a hash rate
Of course.So I'll make up some numbers to explain that:
Lets say 5Nd is actually 5 days (that's not what it is right now)
Lets say you have 5THs and mine for 1 day then we find a block.
What is your 5Nd hash rate? 1THs ... 1/5
So my 5THs got ripped off? No. It is expected to get rewarded multiple times in the 5Nd from now.
The catch in all this, is understanding what is happening.
It's that each share you submit, is being rewarded over the 5Nd after you submit the share, which is expected to be 5 times (on average)
So how does this answer your question?
Well actually it does, that's also the catch
Your rewarded 5Nd hash rate will rise, over the 5Nd, from Old, to be Old + New, i.e. during the 5Nd it increases, not jumps up at the start.
Exactly the same as a new miner starting at Old=zero and Old+New=their hash rate.
this is easily the fairest (and most generous) payment system, as it works both ways!
i had to take my miners offline 5 days ago as i am restructuring and preparing for a new setup, but i sill got rewarded for the past 2 blocks!
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