Topic: Karnataka ( A state in India ) they introduced bill in assembly to ban o.gamblin - page 4. (Read 575 times)
September 22, 2021, 09:30:39 AM
I did not understand carefully, at the beginning you said that they only introduced rules against online gambling, but did not involve lotteries and bets. Here I certainly question, then what types of games are included in the group that is included in the prohibition rules in India? especially in the Karnataka region? As a layman, of course I don't really understand, because I'm not a citizen living in India, while the people of Karnataka or some of the media haven't fully sparked a great debate about prohibition.
September 22, 2021, 09:18:11 AM
Was horse racing and lottery being run by the government of Karnataka? If yes, I think that was the reason they aren't banning all of it, just my own opinion but I think people will still be curious on things and will just goes through another alternatives like having a VPN or else another state where it's legal. I don't know if how government will enforced this but gamblers should take notice.
If this banning continues, people can use VPN to play online gambling and they will not stop before they get caught by the authority. I guess the government will not be easy to find who is their people are still playing gambling. But in the local gambling places, maybe the government can search from places where people usually place their bets. People can break the rule by using many ways to play gambling, whether their government prohibits or even ban gambling. 
September 22, 2021, 07:44:43 AM
That's actually the reason why underground gambling is existing nowadays and it's even increasing. Sometimes, each country's regulation against gambling could make the situation worse. India has a huge population of gamblers and if their government would force to control everything, they couldn't eliminate gambling completely.
Gambling is illegal in India and you cannot find a casino anywhere else in the nation except for Goa which is a tourist destination and online gambling was a grey area for a long time and you are not able to deposit money into gambling sites using any banking system directly and if you want to gamble you need to transfer money to multiple online payment systems before depositing in a gambling site and now a state introduced a bill which is not that surprising.I read in an article on the Indian gaming industry that gambling is allowed not only in Goa, but also in Sikkim and in Daman and Diu.
Currently, there is no need to use credit cards transactions that are tracked by the state. Cryptocurrencies can be used to make anonymous casino deposits. Moreover, if there were no underground casinos on the territory of Karnataka then no one would introduce laws toughening penalties for gambling.
September 22, 2021, 04:40:59 AM
Was horse racing and lottery being run by the government of Karnataka? If yes, I think that was the reason they aren't banning all of it, just my own opinion but I think people will still be curious on things and will just goes through another alternatives like having a VPN or else another state where it's legal. I don't know if how government will enforced this but gamblers should take notice.
September 22, 2021, 04:13:16 AM
For just a state in a country to ban gambling can not be effective, people will always bypass it. Only what can be effective are gambling agents which will not be allowed no more in the state and nothing more, but online gambling will be effective, using cryptocurrencies to gambling will also be effective.
Exactly, people will resist if you tighten the restrictions, remember the basic idea that humans are naturally free creatures so if you subjugate or violate that freedom, they will always resist you no matter how beneficial that restriction is to them and no matter how much they explain it to you. This kind of restrictions don't work, it's a waste of taxpayer's money. 
September 22, 2021, 02:27:21 AM
What do you think about it ?
For just a state in a country to ban gambling can not be effective, people will always bypass it. Only what can be effective are gambling agents which will not be allowed no more in the state and nothing more, but online gambling will be effective, using cryptocurrencies to gambling will also be effective. 
September 21, 2021, 09:40:27 PM
Gambling is illegal in India and you cannot find a casino anywhere else in the nation except for Goa which is a tourist destination and online gambling was a grey area for a long time and you are not able to deposit money into gambling sites using any banking system directly and if you want to gamble you need to transfer money to multiple online payment systems before depositing in a gambling site and now a state introduced a bill which is not that surprising.
Everything is banned in India. Gambling, porn, weed, and even satellite phones. The government thinks that citizens should dance as per their whims and fancies. There is no concept of individual liberty or privacy. And a large section of the population actually supports this. They believe that such restrictions are necessary to prevent tax evasion and criminal activities. And like analysts say, a population always get the government they deserve. Those who don't want to live under such restrictive conditions just migrate to other countries.
September 21, 2021, 05:43:58 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/
Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
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Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
How are they planning on enforcing this is the big issue.
Especially at non-KYC casinos, I don't see how this can be possible.
They are definitely not going to have the power to collect personal data from these sites. Please.
I wouldn't worry too much about this if you are just playing for fun. I doubt that these local authorities would have the power to get information that they seem to need to execute on these laws.
September 21, 2021, 05:30:50 PM
That's actually the reason why underground gambling is existing nowadays and it's even increasing. Sometimes, each country's regulation against gambling could make the situation worse. India has a huge population of gamblers and if their government would force to control everything, they couldn't eliminate gambling completely.
Gambling is illegal in India and you cannot find a casino anywhere else in the nation except for Goa which is a tourist destination and online gambling was a grey area for a long time and you are not able to deposit money into gambling sites using any banking system directly and if you want to gamble you need to transfer money to multiple online payment systems before depositing in a gambling site and now a state introduced a bill which is not that surprising. 
September 21, 2021, 04:47:07 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/
Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
Are they blocking access to these sites?
How do they plan on prosecuting people who simply use a VPN to circumvent the ban, if that is the case?
Especially with a lot of gambling services changing to decentralized platforms now, I'm not positive on their ability to keep their word. The penalties are large but proving guilt is difficult.
September 21, 2021, 04:04:42 PM
If there's a worry about addiction then it should involve every other gambling activity. But this bill is like to end up everyone being on the favorable gambling game that they are favorable with.
That sounds like it is.
That sounds like it is.
September 21, 2021, 04:00:02 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/
Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
I wonder what spurred politicians into this sort of action, I've never thought of India as a big place for gambling? Sadly gambling is an easy target for politicians who want to make their mark and target so-called wrongdoers. The companies have few avenues to defend their activity, the politicians might even be getting paid off by businesses who will benefit from less competition in certain areas (e.g. the lottery) and lastly it is an easy vote winner as older generations are likely to agree with it. I have to wonder how many betting companies actually exist within the state as maybe it will be a rather symbolic act rather than actually effecting many businesses on a wide scale. Very helpful warning that might be overlooked by residents of the state elsewhere.
September 21, 2021, 11:38:45 AM
Being a regular visitor to India, I know what to expect from that country. It is just hopeless. This is the same country which has banned porn. There are some states where alcohol is illegal (Bihar, Mizoram, Gujarat.etc). Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Now they come up with their next masterpiece. Anyone indulging in online gambling will be jailed for 3 years. Does it really surprise anyone that India has the worst brain drain problem in the world? Anyone with a "brain" will just migrate to some other country, rather than putting up with such stupid laws.
September 21, 2021, 11:24:45 AM
That's actually the reason why underground gambling is existing nowadays and it's even increasing. Sometimes, each country's regulation against gambling could make the situation worse. India has a huge population of gamblers and if their government would force to control everything, they couldn't eliminate gambling completely.
It's not nowadays, underground gambling has been existing ever since the dawn of casinos, and it's not really for that reason that they're existing, they were created because some businessmen don't want to pay the taxes and the people want more money when gambling which the underground offers. September 21, 2021, 09:37:02 AM
That's actually the reason why underground gambling is existing nowadays and it's even increasing. Sometimes, each country's regulation against gambling could make the situation worse. India has a huge population of gamblers and if their government would force to control everything, they couldn't eliminate gambling completely.
September 21, 2021, 06:35:03 AM
The state of karnataka in india introduces a bill in the assembly to ban gambling it is bad news for players because they will not be able to gamble.
You didn't read the OP? It said that it doesn't involve lottery, wagering and horse racing outside the state so I don't think that gamblers would see this as a bad news because they can still gamble on the games that weren't banned and it's unlikely they would be able to actively enforce this.i remember when i was a kid , horse race gambling in machines are verry illegal and police even raided homes to look for this and they smash it if ever they found some . anyway , the ban is for their own good and they must obey it .
September 21, 2021, 02:00:55 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/
Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
I think in India too they have restrictions to gamble but their laws are not very strict since gambling in their country happens in another format which is called fantasy sport even though their court passed something to stop them but the government itself is supporting the big companies since they are going to make money from it. Bills against the gambling is not really to save anyone but stop small casinos and only let the big hands to rule the gambling industry. Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence.
What do you think about it ?
( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
September 20, 2021, 10:10:33 PM
That is bad news for players from Karnataka, India, because if they want to play online gambling, they need to play secretly and no one must know what they do.
But inside of that rules, it is good to control the number of gamblers from that state and maybe that can reduce the number temporarily because I think the addicted person to online gambling will not just stop because of that rule.
They will search for the other way to continue their gambling activity and play in their room or hidden place.
We will see the next news from their government if that new rule is running for a month.
But inside of that rules, it is good to control the number of gamblers from that state and maybe that can reduce the number temporarily because I think the addicted person to online gambling will not just stop because of that rule.
They will search for the other way to continue their gambling activity and play in their room or hidden place.
We will see the next news from their government if that new rule is running for a month.
September 20, 2021, 09:49:19 PM
Mu_enrico is already raising the most important point, which is that this is a hypocritical bill. This bill is trying to come out as something pro-people, as an initiative by the state to put first the welfare of the people before others. But then it is clearly done with ulterior motives. If the enemy is gambling, then gambling should be banned. If gambling is allowed but only in selected games, then this bill is simply a way for all the gambling money to be focused on these selected games. This bill is actually a funnel to guide all the gambler's money to a few destinations. I predict this bill won't be passed.
September 20, 2021, 09:09:44 PM
A ban is the first step and regulation is the next. It seems the state doesn't have the means to enforce taxes on any of these online platforms that is why they are trying to scare the gamblers. This is a challenge to many governments right now and it's not only in India that online gambling is prohibited.
On the contrary, it should be regulation first, if regulation is not enough, then an outright ban.
However, it seems they skip that process and go directly to banning online gambling. So this will not sit well for those gamblers around that area for sure. I'm not really sure why they came up with measures to go and ban online gambling. It may result in gamblers, playing underground to circumvent this ban. We all know how resourceful gamblers are, they will always find a way to continue it no matter if we are in a pandemic or an outright banning from the state.
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