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Topic: KIBO - First Blockchain Lottery - page 12. (Read 24143 times)

newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
October 04, 2016, 05:46:10 AM
Kibit tokens are very overpriced.

For 100ETH (1300USD) you get 5000KBT.
And 5000KBT = 1USD revenue for 500 000USD Kibo lotto turnover.
rnr
sr. member
Activity: 247
Merit: 250
October 04, 2016, 05:38:01 AM
I would not accuse them a scam. MLM is legit. Especially in such a market.

And, that´s a fact, lotto platforms providers as Kibo are huge profitable. Well, and that´s the bottle neck, with fiat.

And i can´t see where they want to generate that huge amount of players in the crypto scene.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
October 04, 2016, 05:32:26 AM
Developer reject to reveal their identity. Pyramid scam project. Please avoid.

Fully agree. 100% pyramid scam project.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
October 04, 2016, 05:30:49 AM
And on kibit platform website you have error in sale conditions:

From October 11 to October 25 the platform owner will be paid out 10 % from 4 levels of the client base.
From November 25 to November 10 the platform owner will be paid out 10 % from 3 levels of the client base.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
October 04, 2016, 05:14:24 AM
If you sold in ICO 40M KBT, what happens with 60M unsolded tokens?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
🌟 æternity🌟 blockchain🌟
October 04, 2016, 04:37:03 AM
Developer reject to reveal their identity. Pyramid scam project. Please avoid.
rnr
sr. member
Activity: 247
Merit: 250
October 04, 2016, 04:13:36 AM
Something like that  Grin

@Kibo: Any information about your estimated active lotto players and revenue for the first year?
rnr
sr. member
Activity: 247
Merit: 250
October 04, 2016, 03:57:04 AM
With KIBIT they founded an excellent Network Marketing (MLM) strategy. I simply not see where all the crypto players and "real world" adopters should come from. I doubt that there will be huge commissions for the platform owners nor for Kibo itself.
sr. member
Activity: 281
Merit: 250
RK Coin Services - Alt Coins Dev (ETH-BTC & More)
October 04, 2016, 02:26:34 AM
Bad combination. Asking for a high investment. And staying anonymous at the same time.

Why 100 ETH minimum investment?!?

I know, you keep telling you talked to people at conferences and are not totally anonymous. Talk is cheap. I have no way to verify that. Do any respected members of the ETH community talk to you and remember you? Anyone who could confirm that you even exist?

If we give everyone an opportunity to buy KIBIT, then we will reduce the motivation of Kibo Platform owners to attract customers. Thus, lower our potential for development. If the platform owner has KIBIT, he can count on income without doing anything, and such thoughts decrease his motivation for action. If we reduce the motivation of thousands partners to grow client network, we reduce potential of affiliate network for several times. This is contrary to the objectives of KIBO LOTTO. We plan to earn income from customer base. This means that first of all we are interested in partners that have maximum motivation in growing customer base.
You replied to his post and forgot the important part which make this whole project look suspicious.

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I know, you keep telling you talked to people at conferences and are not totally anonymous. Talk is cheap. I have no way to verify that. Do any respected members of the ETH community talk to you and remember you? Anyone who could confirm that you even exist?

Why you keep avoiding questions like these? and you want people to just give you money.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
October 04, 2016, 01:49:33 AM
Bad combination. Asking for a high investment. And staying anonymous at the same time.

Why 100 ETH minimum investment?!?

I know, you keep telling you talked to people at conferences and are not totally anonymous. Talk is cheap. I have no way to verify that. Do any respected members of the ETH community talk to you and remember you? Anyone who could confirm that you even exist?

If we give everyone an opportunity to buy KIBIT, then we will reduce the motivation of Kibo Platform owners to attract customers. Thus, lower our potential for development. If the platform owner has KIBIT, he can count on income without doing anything, and such thoughts decrease his motivation for action. If we reduce the motivation of thousands partners to grow client network, we reduce potential of affiliate network for several times. This is contrary to the objectives of KIBO LOTTO. We plan to earn income from customer base. This means that first of all we are interested in partners that have maximum motivation in growing customer base.
sr. member
Activity: 453
Merit: 250
October 03, 2016, 07:47:25 PM
Bad combination. Asking for a high investment. And staying anonymous at the same time.

Why 100 ETH minimum investment?!?

I know, you keep telling you talked to people at conferences and are not totally anonymous. Talk is cheap. I have no way to verify that. Do any respected members of the ETH community talk to you and remember you? Anyone who could confirm that you even exist?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
October 03, 2016, 11:16:41 AM

We're approaching $2 400 000 mark. Op's normal!
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
October 03, 2016, 09:35:46 AM

Dear troll,
According to this wonderful magazine, we have had to close six months ago with gap instead of money. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that it is one of the dirtiest resources on the Internet, which makes facts that slings mud on different companies, thus attracting attention and earning on advertising, which you can see on the main page, on the right. Unfortunately people are construct in such way that they are more attracted to the negative information, and those who don’t know how to work honestly, earn on this. You have outdated information, and this article and all of your massages will share the same fate. Information on this resource is untrue and it’s easy to prove just by going to our website and read it. You will find a huge number of inconsistencies. Our offer is not designed for people who are not educated enough to understand that what we are doing. We are not going to convince anyone, Kibo will launch anyway and it’s obvious to anyone who see how far we've come in just one year of development. Those who stay with you it’s their problem, not ours, trust us. All your posts are the same and can fight off the desire to participate in Kibo only in those people who have the same level of intelligence as you. This level is easy to follow by viewing all your messages. You can write as much as you want, we’ve even started to have fun: slightly_smiling_face: But it doesn’t affect our plans and what we're going to do. Kibo will launch anyway, and we already have everything to do it. Thank you for your diligence, dear troll. Apparently, our project is really interesting, since trolls are giving him so much attention.
hero member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 604
October 03, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
why should I pay KIBO PLATFORMS 10 ETH??? which gives me the advantage of this payment Huh

you have to pay them for you to get a referral link which you then need to spam in order to earn "commissions"

they are essentially an MLM type scammy scheme that's trying to operate under the guise of buzzwords such as "smart-contacts", "cryptocurrency", ethereum", "blockchain".....

full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
October 03, 2016, 03:41:46 AM
KiboPlatform for when the planned distribution of tokens? What are the plans for the exchange? Later this year, it will appear kibo on the trading platform?

Hello. Tokens already can be purchased on our website. The beginning of trading on the stock exchanges would be after the end of ICO. The list of marketplaces with access for KBT exchange will be published on Kibo news feed.
We tentatively plan to do this on the end of November.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 322
October 02, 2016, 03:50:07 PM
why should I pay KIBO PLATFORMS 10 ETH??? which gives me the advantage of this payment Huh
wgd
legendary
Activity: 1815
Merit: 1005
October 02, 2016, 11:20:30 AM
KiboPlatform for when the planned distribution of tokens? What are the plans for the exchange? Later this year, it will appear kibo on the trading platform?
sr. member
Activity: 281
Merit: 250
RK Coin Services - Alt Coins Dev (ETH-BTC & More)
October 02, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
I need to understand this, is the 100ETH minimum purchase for the 1st 5 days period only?
Asking big investment like this without identification of the devs Team and Escrow is not a good move.
I asked you multiple time to tell me who is behind your Bitcointalk account. You are asking people to give you
money so you need to clarify things.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
October 02, 2016, 08:18:20 AM

Good morning! Kibo ICO continues to grow: 28 hours, 3305 owners of the platform.That's great!

https://kiboplatform.net

Is this a ICO without escrow? Who would join a ICO without escrow...

Usually a guarantor is needed so the people would received their tokens, our sales is made in working contract. We can make changes right now in this contract, but it's only because a week ago DDoS attacks at Ethereum network began and the amount of gas in a block decreased from 4.5 million to 1.5. If you are familiar with this situation, you know that with this amount of gas in the block, download a large contract is simply impossible. So we had, in order that not to delay ICO date for reasons beyond us, to remove part of the contract and of course after ICO we will reload it with the data on the token from sales period. Those, we didn't need a guarantor, and we were going to give the opportunity to put tokens to your wallets on ICO stage, the main part of the contract is at this link https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central and you can easily see that the download of the contract require the full 4.5 million gas network but currently does not allow this. Yes, now you must understand all of this to purchase. But I want to draw your attention to a very important thing. It does not matter who is the guarantor of the fact that you get tokens. Today the market is trading a huge amount of tokens that don't cost anything. Because there is no working products behind them. In our case, we launch ICO with the product at the final stage of development, some of the work you can see in the post above.

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1)    The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2)    Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3)    The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4)    All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5)    Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.
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