Topic: Kicking/banning and or limiting a player for winning too much - page 4. (Read 541 times)

Do you really have to ask such a question? You know, casinos gotta make money.  They are cool with regular folks winning here and there, but if someone keeps raking it in big time, that will cut into profits and  so they set limits on bets to kinda rein in the big winners.  Keep things from getting too outta hand.  Sure its about their bottom line but they frame it as trying to be fair so average Joes dont lose their shirts.  Casinos need losers to stay afloat, just reality.  So I get why they cap bets - it protects their business model.

Still sucks when you are on a hot streak and they shut you down though!  Rough break for your friend...

Casino is someone's business and they are designed to bring the owners much gains and limit their losses to the winnings of their clients. I think they interpret consistent wins as a sort of cheating on the system and limiting the wager amount is a perfect pattern to reduce the rate at which the casino is exploited, but in your case it is legitimate, but the truth remains that the casino has been programmed to flag consistent wins, especially the ones with a very significant amount on their system as a potential threat and control it as much as it can.

Its very sad that its one sided and they don't use the same wisdom to prevent addicted gamblers from senseless overinvolvement in gambling activities, so their policies aren't balanced at all and the rules are one sided, set only to Favour the casino,

I think that it is hypocrisy on the part of casino owners not to allow someone on a winning streak to continue gambling, but it's ok to allow a serial loser to continue gambling. This goes to show that they're not happy when their customers are constantly winning their bets and keeps coming back to win more, I guess they're just like other shrewd business owners who likes to collect from others and feels bad when they have to give out. The only justifiable reason why I feel that they do this is because in most gambles, you bet a little money to stand a chance to win so much more, it's mostly not a 50 50 situation.

It is strange to see a gambler winning consecutively for many days, it is really uncommon. This could arouse some suspicion that the better have discovered a loophole or an insider is working the gambler. First, the casino will have to investigate the account to ascertain if he is abiding by the rules. If the account is clean it will become necessary to do a comprehensive check on the games to check if there are any lapses. If there is no problem, then the casino will have to take drastic action if the wins continue. Casinos are profit-making organizations; if not put under control, that bettor who wins consistently can make the casino go bankrupt. If such a gambler bets a huge amount, the casino might not be able to pay him. So, reducing his betting sum will be my option if this happens. Casinos always have risk control mechanisms, which makes them take some actions when they perceive a threatening situation, so I don't blame them so much..

This is very normal in casinos, they don't like you winning too much and while you are winning they will look for some reasons to stop betting further temporarily or permanently but in online casinos things are different and it can be true that casinos can limit user's betting limit but when it happened he should have voiced out what happened to him so the casino obviously want their reputation intact might lift his restrictions instead he went to violate the rule that gives the upper hand to the casino and you can't do anything at least they give the option to withdraw the funds after a locking period.

Actually, I haven't experienced such thing but what's the name of the online casino? Can you tell us so we would stay far from it. IMO if the bettors only wager $500 below and was lucky at all his stakes and the casino refuses to allow him bet above $10, it means that the casino is not a big casino and they don't have money to pay. I haven't seen such a thing before as this is my first time hearing about it.

I think I've seen this story that there's someone who's been kicked out and banned for being lucky. Or there's an actual math from it and he's not lucky at all but knows his thing.

He surely have cost the casinos a lot and that's why for everywhere he go there, for sure the securities and marshall has his face on their radar and trying to memorize that he shouldn't be allowed to get into their premises.

So, for the casinos this is a very normal thing.

Interesting, unique and it would be very upsetting if that happened to me. The point is, when I win at betting, and win more than I lose, we should remain free without being limited as before when betting. However, I'm not too sure what you said regarding your friend in the bet. I mean, I don't know exactly what's going on and how he always wins rather than loses. I'm trying to speculate, it sounds like your friend bets on sports if I'm listening based on this thread. The first problem, maybe your friend plays at a casino that has a system like that. I mean, when someone tends to win more, he will be limited as you said. The first step, he must make sure first by reading the casino's ToS. although I'm not sure there are rules like this, but for our own comfort and safety as users and customers. Make sure that the casino you use does not carry out such actions. Even though it is difficult to be sure, at least immediately withdraw the winnings after betting starts to be limited. the reason is, something goes wrong when we are limited. Or, it could be that your friend made a bet that we didn't know was illegal. Basically, I can't judge or try to guess, because I've never experienced anything like that.

Now let's discuss your question, I can't answer it because I don't have the capacity of a casino. I can't make wild assumptions, because I don't own a casino. So, the first and second questions are more precisely the casino that answered the questions in this thread. because, clearly it is not my place to make assumptions or make unilateral claims. However, if this happens to me, I will automatically look for a more decent and trustworthy casino.

Yes, it can be canceled for various reasons so that he does not get more winnings.
Casinos don't want to lose just because one gambler knows the weaknesses of the system being exploited,
but if it is not proven to be exploitation of existing loopholes, they may respond with other clichés.

Account banning is a frequent way in which each account's winnings will have a limit.
Even someone who has already been banned is also flagged and when he starts logging back in with a new account it will be closely monitored.

Is it possible to win gambling in a row at a time? I think it looks very strange,  this could be the reason why the company would not accept it because if they allow a gambler to keep playing it is possible for him to win all the money the gambling company has which is very strange. If a gambling company has put limit on a player it is better for the player to bet with the limit and no need to create another account to bet. But apart from this if casino limit users from betting just because wining a reasonable amount of money , I think it is not a good casino a gambler needs to look up to. Casinos will allow a gambler to keep playing bet after losing money  several times but when gamblers starts winning in a row it becomes a problem.

Please allow me to interrupt the debate you are mentioning, but I think that is an issue where the own always wins, just like in life we rarely see anyone working without receiving a salary. And in the situation that you mentioned before, it happens a lot. I have witnessed some (illegal) online casinos violently appropriating players' money. In fact, it is no different from the situation - scam. But anyway, we (gamblers) accept the fact that we play what they offer, so the compulsion is to accept the possibly unreasonable rules they bring, for personal benefit. First of all, no one will say that own this for users to make money

I have not heard of some casino banning because the user kept winning. But maybe they suspect the user has found a glitch in the system that made him win over and over. If the user is draining the casino's funds, I think that casino already has a capital problem which is something that users will also need to avoid.

Casinos are a business and in order to remain in business they need to make profits, so while a gambler winning once in a while is acceptable, a gambler that can win consistently is not good for them, besides many casinos state very directly on their TOS that if they suspect you are a professional gambler then they can limit or ban your account, so they are completely within their rights to do this, the one at fault here is your friend, as after winning so much and getting limited, he decided to create a second account on the same casino, which goes against the TOS of most casinos as well, since having several accounts is not allowed.

If you're a casino owner, any account that has recorded only wins since they deposited an amount of money or has recorded more wins than they have lost to me will surely attract my attention because how can that be possible in gambling? I will suspect that you are cheating maybe in some kind of way and will like to scrutinize your account.

It is normal to lose regularly in a casino but it is not normal that you regularly win and if you are such a gambler you would surely attract a lot of suspicion.

It's part of the business. You don't want someone to sweep your funds if you think based on their activities that they're lucky. So, you limit them and just allow them with some certain amounts to win against your own casino.

It's because different from losing.

When someone is losing, that sounds like money for the casinos. But if someone is winning consistently, that means that they're outflowing money for them.

Just like Mikki who got banned from Las Vegas for winning huge amount of money from gambling. 😅 Lucky enough for he also caught casino cheating gamblers based on the videos he posted online. Maybe he cost huge loss for the casino that is why people like him got banned from there as it clearly tell us that he literally beat the system of that casino.

Did he really thing he can get away from it by creating a new account? C'mon man, we are better than that.
If a gambler doesn't even have the patience to wait for just a day or two, something must be wrong. And you didn't even ask yourself about that. I am worried.
He cannot get out because of the amount, surely, there's a reason behind it and as an online gambling supporter, you should know the answers.
The guy is being limited. This means he must submit KYC so that he can withdraw the amount he wants. That should be the simple reason behind it and this should not go further as a discussion. Anti Money Laundering Act. We all know that. It means he hit the floor where he will be questioned about the withdrawal amount that he making. Is it legal? Yes!

Isn’t that obvious? Casinos want to win as much as the players. The difference is; They own the house, they make the rules. They design the games is such a way, the player will always lose in the long run. When some lucky bastard wins a lot, it is then they limit that player so he won’t win even more. In the the end the more the player wins, the more the casino loses and like I said, the casino also wants to win.

There's always the possibility that the OP's friend hasn't been truly honest. We're quick to judge the casino's moves, but we don't actually know the full story. Whether you agree or not, 10 wins in a row are suspicious, enough to raise concerns. It's not easy to prove that he was cheating, thus the limitation until they had enough evidence to investigate further, but him opening another account was also a red flag from his part. What was he trying to hide, and why wasn't he satisfied with making a few bets with a maximum of $500 per bet? Did he perhaps have other motives?

You can actually be right. Maybe it was sensed that he could be betting based on cheating although since gambling has been a game of luck, it is possible that onr can loose 10X and so also is the possibilities that one can win 10X in a role.

The friends winning was kinda suspicious because he plays too eager to keep taking the winning that even after being banned in his first account he furthered to open another one. That is exactly where the suspectiousness was rested but though if the casino can not prove him wrong of violation then the  action of banning him would be totally nullified.