Winning 10 times in a row is not sufficient to banned or cause restrictions to his account. Casino usually just let the players play further because they knew that player will lose later on due to greediness and human error. The only way you can be banned immediately by winning 10 times is when you are betting on suspicious game or you doing an arbitrage bet using different casino to get a +EV on wrong odds placement matches.
In general, Casino will not easily kick you out if you are frequently winning. It’s all related on the betting history of the player. I’m not sure what specific casino in subject here but maybe the reputation of the casino is another PoV we can look at as cause of this restriction.
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Winning sports bets 10 times in a row is a huge success in gambling and it is a normal thing to have when you are actually betting on favorite teams in various leagues in Europe. The casino will obviously check whether there is a possibility of cheating on the account or not, there are rules and policies that customers must comply with.
Creating a second account to carry out a plan in the sense of wanting to trick the casino is a violation. It would be natural for the casino to ban both accounts for cheating, so I don't think the customer deserves to get his money back if the casino wants to deny him. Thank goodness the casino had good intentions of returning the money, if not then I think your friend deserves some of the blame.
Creating a second account to carry out a plan in the sense of wanting to trick the casino is a violation. It would be natural for the casino to ban both accounts for cheating, so I don't think the customer deserves to get his money back if the casino wants to deny him. Thank goodness the casino had good intentions of returning the money, if not then I think your friend deserves some of the blame.
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
Hard to answer, but maybe what I will do first is to check his account first especially his bets.
Did the player win it fairly or he did something unfair (cheat) that make him always win, because it is almost impossible to always win in casino games.
If he won it fairly, there is no reason for me as owner to kick/ban him but if he won it by cheating then for sure I'll kick/ban him.
Anyway are you referring to sports betting only? because as far as I know most cases (limit) happened in sports betting?
If it is about sports betting only then I have no idea what to say since I'm not really familiar with it.
Here the problem is that your friend is too greedy with his winnings, if only your friend had stopped gambling at that time and withdrawn the money to his bank, then it wouldn't be a problem. Because casinos are a business and they don't like people who are dissatisfied with their winnings. You can say that it's unfair, but that's how casinos work - you can't expect the casino to allow your friend to keep opening accounts and winning, because that could be a disaster for the casino since it would affect their liquidity. It's still better if the casino still allows your friend to access the money after a year, at least the casino still has good intentions to pay your friend's winnings, if it was another casino then they would immediately cancel the winnings and consider it invalid.
The casino has the rights to make a restrictions if there any activities that are user doing, base on your statement your friend makes a consecutive bet i guess having a cooldown is a must before placing another bet, possible the casino might detected a suspicious account and get tag, once your friend mistake is make an account with the same IP, those address are detected by the system this might possible flag his account, new account created and makes a deposit at the same time with the same amount recently withdrawn with the same IP if you will check that its possible abuse with the system of the casino. Most of the infos like that are already in their FaQ's and Terms and Conditions so i guess its considered as forfeit or the casino might give it back and close the newly created account.
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
But yes I've heard that there are really players who got banned from winning too much especially with landbased casinos. Maybe it is just because we view things on different ways and it just happened that those gambling providers who does, sees it as a threat.
OK, so, sometime last week, a friend of mine got so lucky with his sports betting that he kept winning all his bets, he said himself that he wasnt even sure of some of the games he bets on but he somehow still won it, and according to him, after winning ten times in a row consecutively, the casino placed a limit on the amount of money he can bet in a game, he said he was betting around $500 or more each time, but after being limited, he can't bet more than $10, he got agree and decided to open another account on the same casino (his first mistake), then withdrew all the money on the first account, and deposited exactly the same amount on his second newly created account (his second mistake), and then placed his first bet, and when he came back to check, he discovered that both accounts has been banned, it turned out that immediately his bet on the second account won, the account was banned together with the first one, he's been talking with the casino customer care to atleast allow him withdraw his money, but they said they won't allow him access to the money until after 365 days, that this is a punishment for what he did, and because they don't want to forfiet his money, he must wait, and come back after one year to withdraw his money.
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
As a casino or betting site owner then who would really be liking on someone who do constantly win or having that good winning rate? Of course none. You would definitely be trying to get rid of this guy no matter what the cost but of course it would really be needing up something that wont really be that obvious because once things turns out to be that shady on the actions they had made then it would really be making that kind of tarnish into their reputation and this is something that you wont really be liking as an owner. Its not something new about those restrictions or limitations that had been set into those gamblers or bettors who do often win on which it wont really be something that will really be appealing into their eyes. The wrong thing about that particular bettor is that he made a new account and passed up the funds on which this is likely a violation on site terms and conditions on which you do made out the situation even worst or non-favorable for you.Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
It is better that on the moment that you've seen that they are already giving out those kind of max bets limits then you should have withdrawn those funds and pass it up into other platforms
on which this is where you would really be that to make those bets without having restriction.If they would really be again making those limits then do it again and again.
We do know that there are tons of sites or platforms on which we could really be able to deal with and not really just that a single place.
Just like you said the first mistake your friend made was creating a second account with the same casino, and second was depositing the very exact amount of money he withdrew from his first to the second, and third was he gambling with his same style of game while using the same amount?
I think the fourth mistake your friend did was accessing his second account from the same device I.P address which is likely to be track
I think the fourth mistake your friend did was accessing his second account from the same device I.P address which is likely to be track
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
If I'm to be a casino owner, the best solution will be to limit his gambling amount just like this casino did, and if he tries to play smart and got caught, ban his account And why please?
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Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
The simple answer to your question is that casinos don't want gamblers to keep winning while they continue losing, but rather, casinos will be very glad and happy to see a gambler loses his funds while gambling. Because one big secret about casino business is that the more gamblers lose their bets, the richer the casino gets, and no casino will ever want to go bankrupt just because of a single individual who have been noticed with an IP to be winning consecutively. So that's just how the business model works. 
Casinos limit a customer when they keep winning because they dislike them. In order to be loved by a casino, you need to be a loser; that's the simple logic behind it. They are running a business, and their interest is profit, so they'll limit someone who keeps winning. They have the right to do that since it's their casino, and they set their own rules.
What your friend did was wrong; it's called "multi-accounting," and that is against the TOS. They can forfeit the funds and ban the account. He is even lucky that he was given one year, but I doubt the casino is telling the truth as 1 year is too much, tell him don't expect anymore.
I my opinion, a casino being happy that you as a gambler is making losses rather than wins is a relative analysis in the sense that if a gambler is losses not only is he running at a loss, but the casino as well as other gamblers are trailing towards a win. The reason is quite simple. It is also from the losses of some gamblers that the casino is able to fund the wins of some other gambler.What your friend did was wrong; it's called "multi-accounting," and that is against the TOS. They can forfeit the funds and ban the account. He is even lucky that he was given one year, but I doubt the casino is telling the truth as 1 year is too much, tell him don't expect anymore.
The whole stuff is also some sort of money circulation the fact is if casino is getting too frequent wins than losses that they are unable to manage , they would definitely run into loss and fold up. Likewise, if the gamblers are all losing they will end up stopping their gambling activities on that particular casino and if their are no customers the casino will also likely fold up.
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
According to the rules, users cannot be banned if they continue to win thanks to their hard work in determining the right bets. However, for the second action where he creates another account at the same casino, the casino has the right to take preventive measures against the gambler. If your friend wants to prove that the casino made a mistake by limiting his account in the first case, then it is better to create an account at another casino. If you are still lucky enough to keep winning bets, then it will be easy to make a comparison between casino A and casino B.And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
But I am curious why the casino limits it to the first action, because this is purely a win, if the casino action violates the rules then your friend can file a lawsuit regarding this case. But unfortunately, once your friend is on the right track, why open a second account at the same casino so that the truth of the first account is clouded by the error.
A casino is after all a business that someone created in order to make profit for himself, so basically it is so logical that some casinos would limit or ban a player if they notice his consecutive wins.
Your friend here did a big mistake by creating another account in the first place, I mean the way you described it seems like your friend here is too greedy and not satisfied of the amount of money he's winning. If he just sticked to the casino's bet limit, it would've been better for him at least he would still win some cash even though it is not as big as before but it is better than getting banned without being able to take out your money for a whole year.
No matter how or what you do, casinos always win more even with a max win. To be honest if I ever had the chance to open my own casino, I'd act the same way, maybe I would put a limit on certain wins and max wins, because simply it is a business and you expect to earn money by that business and not making a charity out of it.
Your friend here did a big mistake by creating another account in the first place, I mean the way you described it seems like your friend here is too greedy and not satisfied of the amount of money he's winning. If he just sticked to the casino's bet limit, it would've been better for him at least he would still win some cash even though it is not as big as before but it is better than getting banned without being able to take out your money for a whole year.
No matter how or what you do, casinos always win more even with a max win. To be honest if I ever had the chance to open my own casino, I'd act the same way, maybe I would put a limit on certain wins and max wins, because simply it is a business and you expect to earn money by that business and not making a charity out of it.
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
from what I have read in the past, they do this to minimize losses. As for the gamblers who lose too much, casinos love them, they are the ones that keep the casino up and running. if I remember correctly if you are in a brick-and-mortar casino and you lose a lot of money, the casino would give you a kind of "cashback" as a token of appreciation for playing in their casino.They’re more of casino rules we don’t actually know until we get to experience one, concerning consistent winning with no losses I think it sound strange as I don’t know if any casino will willingly allow that without any restriction. I’m thinking if the user in question cheat because it’s impossible for any gambler winning endless or such user is just too lucky, casinos are meant to investigate first from my opinion before giving any restrictions or else giving a user restrictions without knowing if the user is involved in any cheating activity while gambling is not right, although casinos will definitely make their money regardless looking at the numbers of gamblers placing bet daily and not everyone will gain so they’ll still make their income. Creating another account by the user is so wrong because it shows how desperate the user is which is so wrong, personally I can’t act so desperate with any casino site so i fully support the ban for the user.
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
I heard some offline casino do this before, i'm talking about the limiting, but getting banned is overboard decision. This might happen (limiting) for average size of casino, but those who have huge bankroll will less to do it, while those casinos who are selective scamming (tainted reputation) will probably create fault for its users, ban them and seize their balance for good. 
OK, so, sometime last week, a friend of mine got so lucky with his sports betting that he kept winning all his bets, he said himself that he wasnt even sure of some of the games he bets on but he somehow still won it, and according to him, after winning ten times in a row consecutively, the casino placed a limit on the amount of money he can bet in a game, he said he was betting around $500 or more each time, but after being limited, he can't bet more than $10, he got agree and decided to open another account on the same casino (his first mistake), then withdrew all the money on the first account, and deposited exactly the same amount on his second newly created account (his second mistake), and then placed his first bet, and when he came back to check, he discovered that both accounts has been banned, it turned out that immediately his bet on the second account won, the account was banned together with the first one, he's been talking with the casino customer care to atleast allow him withdraw his money, but they said they won't allow him access to the money until after 365 days, that this is a punishment for what he did, and because they don't want to forfiet his money, he must wait, and come back after one year to withdraw his money.
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
I will be honest here and if I were a casino owner then yes I would surely limit a user who has been winning continuously.
Why ? because I am running a business here and I won't want to go end up in huge losses.
Also, may be the user has found some technique to abuse the system and so I would want to make sure such people are restricted from placing huge bets.
I find it pretty normal from a casino owner's point of view. I know this doesn't sound so good from the gambler's perspective but this is how it should be.
How do you know that a reputed casino will never do that? You played a game ten times and you won all and you think the casino you are playing will not restrict your account to certain level? I want to know if you are correct about this by asking you this question: Have you won before while playing game on a casino and won 10 times consecutively? If no, that means you just give your own opinion but which may not be right.
Just to chime in on this discussion, Technically, Casino is not the one restricting the players to bet but rather the sportsbook provider since casino is just using sportsbook platform to offer bets to players. But those kicking and banning is on the casino side since it’s related on being off-limits to the casino itself and not the sportsbook alone.
I managed to win 10+ winning streak before but I didn’t experience being restricted. I think it’s all about the amount you are winning and typically sportsbook provider tracks user progress from different casino that’s why if they are already restricted to one casino then most probably will be restricted too on new casino after winning few bets since sportsbook provider will flag them. I believe this is the case on why some user experience being restricted immediately after winning consecutively on few bets.
I'm going to go ahead and say that the limitation could be an indication that his account was under investigation, even though he was still able to bet. It's safe to say that winning 10 times in a row without a single loss in between is suspicious, and on the one hand, it's reasonable because he could be taking advantage of fixed matches. I'm not supporting the casino; I'm just stating that we should also check the other side of the coin, as there's a decent chance it's actually happening, as a few users suggested in a previous thread of mine regarding fixed matches in third-world countries.
He dug himself there by opening another account, which may have been a TOS violation. He'll be lucky if his money is actually released in a year from now.
He dug himself there by opening another account, which may have been a TOS violation. He'll be lucky if his money is actually released in a year from now.
Just winning should never be a reason for limiting user from betting on a casino. A legit casino would never do that.
Are you sure about that? No matter how legit the casino is when they see someone that is not good for their business the best thing that they can do is to limit the user to some extent that way they can minimize their losses and still retain the user. We have seen it in the past where users were limited for winning too much on a site, it wasn’t because they cheated or did anything wrong and even betnomi rep said the same thing concerning a case were a gambler was limited.
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It's unprofessional to make the user wait a year for giving back the deposited money. Maybe its taking more time to investigate but it don't take a year to find if a user is cheating or not.
It has already been proven (in the case of the op) they know that both accounts are connected but as a punishment for going against the ToS of the system they decided to hold the funds in the account for a year - in some cases that money would have been gone since Op friends was looking for a way to bypass the limitation they placed on him in their site.
Casinos make money, not give it away. They hope to win more than they lose over time using statistical probability. High rollers disturb this balance by winning consistently. Imagine a poker game where one player wins everything. It evokes distrust, right? Are they cheating? Are they simply blessed? Same for casinos. They're not accusing anyone of cheating, but they're leery of consistent winners. A risk management plan to defend their bottom line
Why don't casinos limit losing players? The answer is easy. Casinos thrive on losing players. The casino gains from their losses. Casinos are not charities. Businesses meant to make money. They give benefits and freebies to return lost players in hopes that they'll change their luck around and start paying the casino
Is it ethical for casinos to limit or ban winners? Do players have to recognize gambling's risks? Should casinos do more to level the playing field? I don't judge. I'm reporting facts. Gambling is complicated and regulated. Each person choose whether to participate, knowing the odds are always in favor of the house
Why don't casinos limit losing players? The answer is easy. Casinos thrive on losing players. The casino gains from their losses. Casinos are not charities. Businesses meant to make money. They give benefits and freebies to return lost players in hopes that they'll change their luck around and start paying the casino
Is it ethical for casinos to limit or ban winners? Do players have to recognize gambling's risks? Should casinos do more to level the playing field? I don't judge. I'm reporting facts. Gambling is complicated and regulated. Each person choose whether to participate, knowing the odds are always in favor of the house
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
Some casino use their ToS as reason to confiscate winnings or take advantage against winning players. Does the casino indicate that multiple account is not allowed in the casino because if there’s no written rules about multiple account then casino should release the fund.
Casino will surely ban, restrict or kick a player that is not profitable since they are business after all. Most importantly every casino has a special line in their ToS giving them power to do the what I mention to any user without further explanation.
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Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
They are business, they need to protect their business.
Now, I just want to ask us, if you own a casino, and a particularly customer is always winning, winning and winning, would you kick/ban the customer, or limit him or her?
And why please?
business-wise I'd do the same since it is one of the best ways to minimize losses(at least from what I have read), but personally, as long as the gambler doesn't cheat, there's really no reason to ban or limit the gambler.And why please?
Why do casinos limit or ban a user when he or she is winning too much, but do not do the same when the user is losing too much as well?
from what I have read in the past, they do this to minimize losses. As for the gamblers who lose too much, casinos love them, they are the ones that keep the casino up and running. if I remember correctly if you are in a brick-and-mortar casino and you lose a lot of money, the casino would give you a kind of "cashback" as a token of appreciation for playing in their casino. Jump to: