klee's hacked 1170 btc, Part II - page 12.

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Quote from: SirChiko on July 13, 2014, 07:10:09 AM

Maybe he is mixing these coins again to be sure, before sending them to klee?

I suppose that could be possible, but why wouldn't he just send the coins from the current address their in then mix? Considering that he already received a signed message and to verify signed messages you need a Bitcoin address (and for the address to have any relevance it needs to have enough coins in it), the address is already known to at least klee... Not to mention, sending them in relatively small chunks is going to take a while if at all.

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Quote from: Light on July 13, 2014, 06:59:19 AM

Quote from: CIYAM on July 13, 2014, 06:46:58 AM

I do think that the stuff about having 36 days to return the 462 BTC amount doesn't look very legit (i.e. the hacker gains 1 month to "disappear to another country").

If the hacker wants it over and done with why wouldn't he just give it all over now and be done with it? Smells fishy to me.

From what I can see, so far the hacker hasn't held up on their end with the promise (the only tx to the agreed address is - https://blockchain.info/tx/bfdedc91f7f909ad56733bbcffc75214ad49f96d362ae2fb69fb6b529173686a) which is about 100x less than the overall amount and 50x less than the agreed amount for the first split.

Maybe he is mixing these coins again to be sure, before sending them to klee?

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Quote from: CIYAM on July 13, 2014, 06:46:58 AM

I do think that the stuff about having 36 days to return the 462 BTC amount doesn't look very legit (i.e. the hacker gains 1 month to "disappear to another country").

If the hacker wants it over and done with why wouldn't he just give it all over now and be done with it? Smells fishy to me.

From what I can see, so far the hacker hasn't held up on their end with the promise (the only tx to the agreed address is - https://blockchain.info/tx/bfdedc91f7f909ad56733bbcffc75214ad49f96d362ae2fb69fb6b529173686a) which is about 100x less than the overall amount and 50x less than the agreed amount for the first split.

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Quote from: ronskii on July 13, 2014, 06:42:18 AM

Thats a sick amount.. But the guy should be trackable don't you think so?

The BTC has already been through a mixer (as was noted by the mixer service in Klee's topic) and supposedly all records that could have traced the mixing have already been deleted (so there is no way that they can trace the hacker without at least losing their credibility as a mixing service).

I do think that the stuff about having 36 days to return the 462 BTC amount doesn't look very legit (i.e. the hacker gains 1 month to "disappear to another country").

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Thats a sick amount.. But the guy should be trackable don't you think so?

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Quote from: Wolf Rainer on July 13, 2014, 06:31:21 AM

750.000 GOD! I can kill my self it i lose that. But seriourly how can someone keep that money in online wallet? With my accout (less than 1 btc) i have it splitted in several wallets with three factors auth.

this ^

I keep my moderate stash in 4 different paper wallets, multiple copies and i still get nervous.

i can't even imagine keeping that many bitcoin and not using paper wallets cold storage or Armory

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750.000 GOD! I can kill my self it i lose that. But seriourly how can someone keep that money in online wallet? With my accout (less than 1 btc) i have it splitted in several wallets with three factors auth.

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how does that make him scammed twice ?
fucked over twice maybe. ?

Quote from: The Avenger on July 13, 2014, 05:31:10 AM

Quote from: Gimmelfarb on July 13, 2014, 05:23:03 AM

Quote from: WootKung on July 13, 2014, 05:19:20 AM

inb4 hacker don't give bak lol

not really a laughing matter. Undecided

but it sounds like he signed a message from the address (or a linked address, if it moved). and made offers/demands. i doubt someone would go to those lengths otherwise. sounds like he wants to take a hit on the total loot in order to cut off any investigation. seems wise enough.

So far the hacker has return 4.62 BTC (not 462BTC) to the specified address. Looks like klee was scammed twice.

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Quote from: Gimmelfarb on July 13, 2014, 05:23:03 AM

Quote from: WootKung on July 13, 2014, 05:19:20 AM

inb4 hacker don't give bak lol

not really a laughing matter. Undecided

but it sounds like he signed a message from the address (or a linked address, if it moved). and made offers/demands. i doubt someone would go to those lengths otherwise. sounds like he wants to take a hit on the total loot in order to cut off any investigation. seems wise enough.

taunting his victim?

wanting to get the heat off so he can move the coins around?

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Quote from: Gimmelfarb on July 13, 2014, 05:23:03 AM

Quote from: WootKung on July 13, 2014, 05:19:20 AM

inb4 hacker don't give bak lol

not really a laughing matter. Undecided

but it sounds like he signed a message from the address (or a linked address, if it moved). and made offers/demands. i doubt someone would go to those lengths otherwise. sounds like he wants to take a hit on the total loot in order to cut off any investigation. seems wise enough.

So far the hacker has return 4.62 BTC (not 462BTC) to the specified address. Looks like klee was scammed twice.

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Quote from: WootKung on July 13, 2014, 05:19:20 AM

inb4 hacker don't give bak lol

not really a laughing matter. Undecided

but it sounds like he signed a message from the address (or a linked address, if it moved). and made offers/demands. i doubt someone would go to those lengths otherwise. sounds like he wants to take a hit on the total loot in order to cut off any investigation. seems wise enough.

WootKung

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inb4 hacker don't give bak lol

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i imagine the 462 number is a percentage of sorts -- but it sounds like we'll never know. it's a private matter. at least he's gonna get quite a chunk back, and i'm sure he'll take better care of it now.

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I definitely felt for him on that one but at the least he was able to strike a deal of sorts with the hacker so there is something returning to his wallet not many people can say that.

Still qualifys on the master list though but I hope klee gets part of his coins and the scammer/hacker keeps up his part of the deal.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7802304

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Damn, that's a big theft there , i hope police will be able to do anything about it. Well i guess i will never have a feeling how it feels, but i can imagine. I was worried for my 0.5 btc, with like 20 character PW and a 5 special backups of wallet and i was still nervous about it...1170 btc, thats just sick ammount, like 700k$, you have to have that ammount secured in cold wallet.

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Indeed I have also been following this on the nxt forum, and whilst of coarse I feel for the guy, if he had followed standard protocols he would still have his BTC and nxt I mean who in this day and age leaves his PW's in a flat txt file ?

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One of the condition of the hacker was for klee to lock the original bounty thread. I've been following that thread, so I suppose if there's anything left that can be done or posted about, it can be continued in here. It just really sucks to see klee admit defeat and forced to accept the ransom for just a fraction of what he originally lost.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-was-hacked-1170btc-stolen-500btc-max-bounty-686275

How was the 462 btc amount determined?

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