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Topic: KnCMiner order/shipment mess and unfairness (Read 5818 times)

newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
September 26, 2013, 04:05:36 PM
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.

So at the end of it, you're saying it's unfair that you didn't get into the first 500 orders?

What happens if you order now and get #501?

And why do you keep mentioning 2000 to fund the development and 500 lucky ones getting the rewards? According to the order page, all products will be delivered in september.

1) They didn't make it clear that we needed to order Mars and have the queue number
2) They didn't say we will need to pay the whole price
3) They use the money of the majority to place abig order and lower the cost
4) The rewards go to the first 500
5) I even don't know my estimated delivery date - they don't reply to my emails

6) and they probably didn't think of how much you would complain... c'mon man people complain about things that have nothing wrong with them too, it gets old fast.
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
September 26, 2013, 04:03:43 PM
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

you give KncMiner 6 days to let you know, or .... .... .... .... why not just ask nicely?
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1012
Beyond Imagination
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.


So, you didn't take advantage of the numerous KnC group buys?  Well then...

member
Activity: 118
Merit: 10
Have an order confirmation dated 2013-05-14. Never heard of them again. Account is now unknown. WTF
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
I'm not able to live up to be scammed so I'm out I guess.

So basically your whole rant (whinge) was for nothing. You wouldn't have had the balls anyway in the first place to make a payment even if you had a position in the 1-500 slots.

ROFL.

You sir are the bitch of the day for today.

That's total bullshit. I have the balls to even pay for my > 500 order if the rules are set straight and I'm not donating my money for nothing.

nature has a simple way to deal with baby birds who leave their nest in this mindset



awesome clip......thx!   love the one that raises his head at the end and runs over
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
Troll of the Fourth Reich.
I'm not able to live up to be scammed so I'm out I guess.

So basically your whole rant (whinge) was for nothing. You wouldn't have had the balls anyway in the first place to make a payment even if you had a position in the 1-500 slots.

ROFL.

You sir are the bitch of the day for today.

That's total bullshit. I have the balls to even pay for my > 500 order if the rules are set straight and I'm not donating my money for nothing.

nature has a simple way to deal with baby birds who leave their nest in this mindset


hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
I'm not able to live up to be scammed so I'm out I guess.

So basically your whole rant (whinge) was for nothing. You wouldn't have had the balls anyway in the first place to make a payment even if you had a position in the 1-500 slots.

ROFL.

You sir are the bitch of the day for today.

That's total bullshit. I have the balls to even pay for my > 500 order if the rules are set straight and I'm not donating my money for nothing.

nature has a simple way to deal with baby birds who leave their nest in this mindset

sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
I'm not able to live up to be scammed so I'm out I guess.

So basically your whole rant (whinge) was for nothing. You wouldn't have had the balls anyway in the first place to make a payment even if you had a position in the 1-500 slots.

ROFL.

You sir are the bitch of the day for today.

That's total bullshit. I have the balls to even pay for my > 500 order if the rules are set straight and I'm not donating my money for nothing.

nature has a simple way to deal with baby birds who leave their nest in this mindset
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
I'm not able to live up to be scammed so I'm out I guess.

So basically your whole rant (whinge) was for nothing. You wouldn't have had the balls anyway in the first place to make a payment even if you had a position in the 1-500 slots.

ROFL.

You sir are the bitch of the day for today.

That's total bullshit. I have the balls to even pay for my > 500 order if the rules are set straight and I'm not donating my money for nothing.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Relax he's probably a young guy and this is clearly not the best investment for him.

He's unprepared, impatient and easy to declare himself the victim without accepting recognition for his mistakes.

Hopefully he's got the anger out of his system now. Should KnC succeed, I'm sure he will find a point of entry that suits himself better than now.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
OP Status:

not told [ ]
Told [ ]
Fucking told [ ]
Knights of the TOLD republic [X]

I'm not able to live up to be scammed so I'm out I guess.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Also don't expect an answer from them before the weekend. If you have paid any attention so far you would know why they will be busy in the interim...pay attention!
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Look FFS, the magic '500' units number only applies to the bare minimum they need to sell fund the non-reoccurring engineering costs of 28nm ASIC development in the timescale they have set themselves.

That is all.

There is no real spectacular difference to the end user other than they may receive the product earlier than those that order later *if manufacturing takes a while to reach full speed.

There are no gold and diamond encrusted first 500 units.

Those in that first 500 registered interest and placed pre-orders early before KnC pitched their idea to ORSoC. That magic 500+ was ORSoC's bare minimum of interest before they would even consider devoting time to this project.

In an unusual, but respectable manner KnC are upholding a promise they gave the first 500 by granting the, the license to keep or sell their first run preorder in gratitude for helping KnC get this project off the ground.

Integrity, or at least the perception of it. We have to see how the project pans out.

They don't want to have to deal with pre-sales via eBay, they won't support it or the tarnished image it gives. They will only support sales or pre-sale they agree to change the buyer's name on.

You may have been aware of KnC's early intentions, but through choice you decided not to keep abreast of the situation.

A week is a long time in this crazy Bitcoin ASIC development world.

For me at least it has been mentally exhausting to keep abreast and relay information to people so they can make informed choices without hopefully getting scammed by so many out to do just that.

You've done nothing but be lazy, please be an adult male and quit whining it's not a very alpha male/ masculine trait. Admit you f**ked up and try and join the queue now which shouldn't make a huge difference in the scheme of things if you have made yourself fully aware of the project and the risks, which you haven't yet done.

Do some research, real research, actually read, make up your mind.

You might find many things about this you don't like, or a lot you do.

You have to be responsible for your decisions and not blame anyone but yourself for mismanaging them.

Genuinely best of luck with whatever you decide, but stop the whining as you have no foundation for genuine complaint.

Best wishes!
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
Maybe some, like how much one truck can carry.

You still didn't indicate even whether you expect we are already truckloads apart or probably both on the same truck, let alone how many hours days weeks or months you expect between truckloads...

I have heard of courier companies so large and rich they can actually send more than one truck at a time to do pickups!

-MarkM-

EDIT: You should sulk at least 7 full days before paying though, just as a matter of principle! Smiley
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
You seem not to have understood what you just referred to.

It seems pretty clear that until they know which golden slots are actually paying within the seven day window they won't know which of them will actually still exist to be ahead of the ordered by actual payment non-golden folk like me and, maybe, one of these years, if you like what we all get, and still want some once we all got some, you...

-MarkM-


Nope. I placed the non-golden order and have 7 days to pay. So the placement is not done by the payment date.

Ahhhh! That I did not know!

So you propose that we toss a coin to decide whether you should give me your spot, being as how I paid and you have not yet?

Or you propose you should yield your spot to me?

-MarkM-


That's what I refer to as mess and unfairness. Seems like they spin the process as they like, there are no rules.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
You seem not to have understood what you just referred to.

It seems pretty clear that until they know which golden slots are actually paying within the seven day window they won't know which of them will actually still exist to be ahead of the ordered by actual payment non-golden folk like me and, maybe, one of these years, if you like what we all get, and still want some once we all got some, you...

-MarkM-


Nope. I placed the non-golden order and have 7 days to pay. So the placement is not done by the payment date.

Ahhhh! That I did not know!

So you propose that we toss a coin to decide whether you should give me your spot, being as how I paid and you have not yet?

Or you propose you should yield your spot to me?

-MarkM-
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
You seem not to have understood what you just referred to.

It seems pretty clear that until they know which golden slots are actually paying within the seven day window they won't know which of them will actually still exist to be ahead of the ordered by actual payment non-golden folk like me and, maybe, one of these years, if you like what we all get, and still want some once we all got some, you...

-MarkM-


Nope. I placed the non-golden order and have 7 days to pay. So the placement is not done by the payment date.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
OP:

You seem not to have understood what you just referred to.

It seems pretty clear that until they know which golden slots are actually paying within the seven day window they won't know which of them will actually still exist to be ahead of the ordered by actual payment non-golden folk like me and, maybe, one of these years, if you like what we all get, and still want some once we all got some, you...

-MarkM-
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500

...

Are you saying it doesn't matter how long I, as a non-first-500 person, dilly dally and blather before paying, because I somehow won't end up behind more and more non first 500 people who actually fork over the money?

...

-MarkM-


exactly, there is no clearly defined fair process and when you pay at the moment does not matter

Bullpucky. When *I* pay matters a lot. The fact I already paid puts me ahead of any non-golden-500 person who didn't pay before I did, I thought they actually wrote that somewhere? Or was that baseless hearsay posted by some random troll?

Heck it probably even puts me behind any non-golden-500 person who buys a slot off a slot-scalper, but that is fair in capitalism isn't it? They who fork over the gold get the golden tickets? Assuming they offer enough to convince those who actually found the things to sell them?

-MarkM-


Do give up talking to this troll. I've given up trying to explain things to him.

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