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Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.

So at the end of it, you're saying it's unfair that you didn't get into the first 500 orders?

What happens if you order now and get #501?

And why do you keep mentioning 2000 to fund the development and 500 lucky ones getting the rewards? According to the order page, all products will be delivered in september.

1) They didn't make it clear that we needed to order Mars and have the queue number
2) They didn't say we will need to pay the whole price
3) They use the money of the majority to place abig order and lower the cost
4) The rewards go to the first 500
5) I even don't know my estimated delivery date - they don't reply to my emails

No, other than payment date, everything there's been pretty much common knowledge for weeks. You've just in one post demonstrated you haven't paid any attention, or followed at all.

I didn't have the time to sit on the forum days long, I subscribed to the email and there was no info that you call common now.
Anyhow, common or not, if the majority doesn't pay the 500 gunshots won't have that much of a sweet deal.
And I'm from the majority not paying till kncminer clarify > 500 shipment dates.

You snooze, you lose.

What majority are you talking about? You are the only one complaining. Do you honestly think the price will change if there's no majority? Why in the world are you using the word gunshots?

And I still don't see why only the first 500 get rewards. You don't get a mining machine if you're order number 501?

You don't need to buy Mars to have a queue number. And for god sake you know they are in Sweden, can't you google to see what time it is and just guess why they're not answering your email?

hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.

So at the end of it, you're saying it's unfair that you didn't get into the first 500 orders?

What happens if you order now and get #501?

And why do you keep mentioning 2000 to fund the development and 500 lucky ones getting the rewards? According to the order page, all products will be delivered in september.

1) They didn't make it clear that we needed to order Mars and have the queue number
2) They didn't say we will need to pay the whole price
3) They use the money of the majority to place abig order and lower the cost
4) The rewards go to the first 500
5) I even don't know my estimated delivery date - they don't reply to my emails

No, other than payment date, everything there's been pretty much common knowledge for weeks. You've just in one post demonstrated you haven't paid any attention, or followed at all.

I didn't have the time to sit on the forum days long, I subscribed to the email and there was no info that you call common now.
Anyhow, common or not, if the majority doesn't pay the 500 gunshots won't have that much of a sweet deal.
And I'm from the majority isn't paying till kncminer clarify > 500 shipment dates.

Ok, how, prey tell can anyone foresee what will happen between now and then?!

We are sponsoring a well equipped knowledgable team to complete what is a significant task in a timescale they and their experience believed is appropriate.

Shit happens, there may be a delivery late. As long as it's not significant, beyond reasonable expectation (i.e. any of BFL's bullshit) then investors need to relax. September as they said would be amazing.

September is in all fairness the only thing we have to go by, and they can reasonably give.

If you want a precise date, then play it safe and wait until production begins and miners start being delivered. There will undoubtedly be a more accurate answer then...
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Activity: 122
Merit: 100
You didn't need to order a Mars to get into the first 500 Jupiters.  I was able to place two pre-orders, both within the first 500, and I didn't place any order for a Mars unit.

I'm totally happy for you bro. Kncminer messed it up and what I'm asking is that they clarify > 500 shipment dates as I'm not gonna wait ages while 500 gunshots reap the smoke out of their ASICs built with my money
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
You didn't need to order a Mars to get into the first 500 Jupiters.  I was able to place two pre-orders, both within the first 500, and I didn't place any order for a Mars unit.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.

So at the end of it, you're saying it's unfair that you didn't get into the first 500 orders?

What happens if you order now and get #501?

And why do you keep mentioning 2000 to fund the development and 500 lucky ones getting the rewards? According to the order page, all products will be delivered in september.

1) They didn't make it clear that we needed to order Mars and have the queue number
2) They didn't say we will need to pay the whole price
3) They use the money of the majority to place abig order and lower the cost
4) The rewards go to the first 500
5) I even don't know my estimated delivery date - they don't reply to my emails

No, other than payment date, everything there's been pretty much common knowledge for weeks. You've just in one post demonstrated you haven't paid any attention, or followed at all.

I didn't have the time to sit on the forum days long, I subscribed to the email and there was no info that you call common now.
Anyhow, common or not, if the majority doesn't pay the 500 gunshots won't have that much of a sweet deal.
And I'm from the majority not paying till kncminer clarify > 500 shipment dates.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
so much waaaaa waaaaa on these forums

yes I am a lucky 1-500 and I feel like I walk on top of the backs of the poor 501-2000 with no shame or guilt..

I am elite and deserve my place in queue


row faster peon to get me to my island of paradise
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.

So at the end of it, you're saying it's unfair that you didn't get into the first 500 orders?

What happens if you order now and get #501?

And why do you keep mentioning 2000 to fund the development and 500 lucky ones getting the rewards? According to the order page, all products will be delivered in september.

1) They didn't make it clear that we needed to order Mars and have the queue number
2) They didn't say we will need to pay the whole price
3) They use the money of the majority to place abig order and lower the cost
4) The rewards go to the first 500
5) I even don't know my estimated delivery date - they don't reply to my emails

No, other than payment date, everything there's been pretty much common knowledge for weeks. You've just in one post demonstrated you haven't paid any attention, or followed at all.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.

So at the end of it, you're saying it's unfair that you didn't get into the first 500 orders?

What happens if you order now and get #501?

And why do you keep mentioning 2000 to fund the development and 500 lucky ones getting the rewards? According to the order page, all products will be delivered in september.

1) They didn't make it clear that we needed to order Mars and have the queue number
2) They didn't say we will need to pay the whole price
3) They use the money of the majority to place abig order and lower the cost
4) The rewards go to the first 500
5) I even don't know my estimated delivery date - they don't reply to my emails
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Okay, I'm hitting the hay;
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Ok Daggeteo, just emailed me this. So anyone with any questions and concerns that want them asked tomorrow;

PM him before 11am GMT+1!!!

Make these Q's that concern everyone, or groups of people from particular countries, etc., not personal beef about every individual order...

It's the best chance of clearing up whatever you're not happy about, confused or concerned about with them in person.

i.e. Why can't we purchase as consumers? Why do we have to confirm we are a business?

Enjoy...!


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Received  I'll add these to the list and ask them if there is enough time.

Many thanks for compiling these last ones. I haven't had the time to go through the thread these past two days in search of new Qs so I appreciate that you did! I'll be leaving prior to noonish so if there are any other Qs you wish to add please PM 11 am the latest.

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AND DON'T FORGET TO THANK HIM!!!
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.

So at the end of it, you're saying it's unfair that you didn't get into the first 500 orders?

What happens if you order now and get #501?

And why do you keep mentioning 2000 to fund the development and 500 lucky ones getting the rewards? According to the order page, all products will be delivered in september.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?

That's one way of going further - they do it like Avalon and only take money for the number of devices they gonna ship.
Then do the next batch. I'm sure for the next batch the price will be lower because of the competition.
I'm not paying till they clarify my shipment date.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing

You do know the 500 are also paying customers right?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should take the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Random dudes that helped them secure a shit-hot FPGA/ASIC design house?! Bastards...
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.


I registered in April on the site and for the newsletter, there was no word I should've taken the queue.
Now they need to deal with their incompetence somehow, it's no good when thousands of suckers make 500 random dudes rich.

Remember, without us your 500 spots are nothing
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
One bitcoin to rule them all!
Yea I signed up for the newsletter on 4/09/2013 thinking ok I registered interest, HAD THEY POSTED "Sign up here to get a place in line" I would have but of course I thought to myself no need they aren't even taking money. ***Face Palm!***  Angry

Same here :-)
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date

I don't get the unfairness part.

You could have reserved your place in april. The reservation list was open for a week.

You can order now and probably be in the first 500 anyway.

p.s. And I'm definitely in the wrong timezone.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
It is still not fair when 2000 fund the development of something when 500 lucky ones get the reward.
I didn't pay yet, so did not the majority, so hold on your breath you 500 gunshots, without us your order
number is meaningless.

I give KncMiner 6 days to let me know my order shipment estimated delivery date
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
Yea I signed up for the newsletter on 4/09/2013 thinking ok I registered interest, HAD THEY POSTED "Sign up here to get a place in line" I would have but of course I thought to myself no need they aren't even taking money. ***Face Palm!***  Angry
sr. member
Activity: 298
Merit: 250
Play2Live pre-sale starts on January 25th
Also as someone else rightly pointed out in one of the other threads; KnC used those figures pertaining interest to coerce ORSoC on board.

ORSoC wanted to be given an idea numbers of interest before agreeing to partner. Those guys and girls keen then helped KnC secure ORSoC as a partner. KnC were never going to attempt this without ORSoC on board, so there is fairness there.

Absolutely, you can't get a company like ORSoC to partner with you without demonstrating that there is a demand for the product you are developing and that is exactly what pre-orders do.
I don't know why people are complaining about having to pay now. They accept credit cards via paypal, so if you are really concerned that they won't come through, that is one way to do it with minimal risk.
I'll be very interested to hear the feedback after the open day tomorrow.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Also as someone else rightly pointed out in one of the other threads; KnC used those figures pertaining interest to coerce ORSoC on board.

ORSoC wanted to be given an idea numbers of interest before agreeing to partner. Those guys and girls keen then helped KnC secure ORSoC as a partner. KnC were never going to attempt this without ORSoC on board, so there is fairness there.
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