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Topic: KnCMiner order/shipment mess and unfairness - page 3. (Read 5818 times)

hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
They're not asking for your money only. You are not that special to them. Anyone can order, pay and take the risk.

Exactly, they want my and the rest of people money to make 500 lucky ones happy

ADDED: let's run a lottery for the 500 spots, how about that ?

As I said before, you need a reality check very badly. Without your order and any after 500, they will still make the miner at the price that have stated.

You're totally obsessed the early pre-orders. And it wasn't luck they got in. They did their homework, you didn't.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
They're not asking for your money only. You are not that special to them. Anyone can order, pay and take the risk.

Exactly, they want my and the rest of people money to make 500 lucky ones happy

ADDED: let's run a lottery for the 500 spots, how about that ?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

If you have order #1, will you be asking that? I don't think so.

Tell you in all honesty - I wouldn't ask myself but if somebody did I'd agree it's fair

So if KNC gets 10000 orders, and they will need 6 months to make that many. You are willing to wait while avalon, bfl, bitfury all are hashing away happily while you only get yours in 2014?

Extremely hypocritical from what you were saying earlier.

Then take your 500 orders and run with it. Why ask for my money ?

They're not asking for your money only. You are not that special to them. Anyone can order, pay and take the risk.

Please don't, he's still doesn't have any clearer a picture than when this started 3 pages back...
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

If you have order #1, will you be asking that? I don't think so.

Tell you in all honesty - I wouldn't ask myself but if somebody did I'd agree it's fair

So if KNC gets 10000 orders, and they will need 6 months to make that many. You are willing to wait while avalon, bfl, bitfury all are hashing away happily while you only get yours in 2014?

Extremely hypocritical from what you were saying earlier.

Then take your 500 orders and run with it. Why ask for my money ?

They're not asking for your money only. You are not that special to them. Anyone can order, pay and take the risk.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

If you have order #1, will you be asking that? I don't think so.

Tell you in all honesty - I wouldn't ask myself but if somebody did I'd agree it's fair

So if KNC gets 10000 orders, and they will need 6 months to make that many. You are willing to wait while avalon, bfl, bitfury all are hashing away happily while you only get yours in 2014?

Extremely hypocritical from what you were saying earlier.

Then take your 500 orders and run with it. Why ask for my money ?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

No they need funds to develop an entirely new 28nm ASIC which can cost in the hundreds of thousands.

Asian chip manufacturers want payment before they manufacture ironically.

But f**k it, they should have expected you as well!

And aside from 500 initial pre order guaranteed positions, there are no batches per say, you're just in line dependant on purchase position. You really have read nothing but their initial offering way back before ORSoC came on board.

Do you even know who ORSoC are in this?!

I really don't see how he's not getting any of this.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

If you have order #1, will you be asking that? I don't think so.

Tell you in all honesty - I wouldn't ask myself but if somebody did I'd agree it's fair

So if KNC gets 10000 orders, and they will need 6 months to make that many. You are willing to wait while avalon, bfl, bitfury all are hashing away happily while you only get yours in 2014?

Extremely hypocritical from what you were saying earlier.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

No they need funds to develop an entirely new 28nm ASIC which can cost in the hundreds of thousands.

Chip manufacturers want payment before they manufacture ironically.

But f**k it, they should have expected you as well!

And aside from 500 initial pre order guaranteed positions, there are no batches per say, you're just in line dependant on purchase position. You really have read nothing but their initial offering way back before ORSoC came on board.

Do you even know who ORSoC are?!

Man, are you on page with us? We pay UPFRONT - there is no more money after they get the devices.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

No they need funds to develop an entirely new 28nm ASIC which can cost in the hundreds of thousands.

Asian chip manufacturers want payment before they manufacture ironically.

But f**k it, they should have expected you as well!

And aside from 500 initial pre order guaranteed positions, there are no batches per say, you're just in line dependant on purchase position. You really have read nothing but their initial offering way back before ORSoC came on board.

Do you even know who ORSoC are in this?!
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

If you have order #1, will you be asking that? I don't think so.

Tell you in all honesty - I wouldn't ask myself but if somebody did I'd agree it's fair
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?

If you have order #1, will you be asking that? I don't think so.

You need a reality check badly.
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
Better place your order quick so you can be in the second batch!

Second batch means that they take money for 500 orders ONLY. Then after shipping it they take money for the second batch.
Now I'm kinda in the first batch where only few lucky ones get the product, and the rest is doomed to wait whatever time is needed for the first 500 to reap the smoke out of their ASICs.

Meantime in August many new products can appear driving the price down. That's why kncminer want to secure all payments now.

ADDED: how about waiting for all the devices to come to Sweden before giving out to anyone?
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
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I'm not sure you're smart either. When the quality go up because of the investment, all shareholders must somehow win, isn't it?
Now tell me how I win when 500 to X devices go mining before I even get a chance to unpack mine?

you are right , you don't win..  you lose, look in the mirror and what you see??  someone who lost...  so sad..  

Thanks for the support! You basically confirming that > 500 dudes lose on this, right!

yes i am trying to confirm your reality so you can go to sleep or jump off bridge
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100
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I'm not sure you're smart either. When the quality go up because of the investment, all shareholders must somehow win, isn't it?
Now tell me how I win when 500 to X devices go mining before I even get a chance to unpack mine?

you are right , you don't win..  you lose, look in the mirror and what you see??  someone who lost...  so sad..  

Thanks for the support! You basically confirming that > 500 dudes lose on this, right!
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
[

I'm not sure you're smart either. When the quality go up because of the investment, all shareholders must somehow win, isn't it?
Now tell me how I win when 500 to X devices go mining before I even get a chance to unpack mine?

you are right , you don't win..  you lose, look in the mirror and what you see??  someone who lost...  so sad..  
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
But the stores will never encourage nor even take part in it to make sure "the transfer smoothly"!

Well, they don't stop it either and it's easier in real-life.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
But the stores will never encourage nor even take part in it to make sure "the transfer smoothly"!

How about some people queued but without any money, what will McDonalds treat them? Allow the sale of their slot for burger?

You don't think that hasn't happened before? Eg. Launch day of an iphone or outside Walmart on black friday?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
I genuinely wouldn't encourage this dude, he will be a monster headache to deal with on their part! He'll slow the operation down if he needs this much attention and explanation.

Not to mention the fact he is ready to part with significant funds and has made zero effort towards any research or due diligence.

He's happy to wait it out, and I genuinely feel it's best and will keep him more comfortable that way risk wise.

Yea I think I'm wasting my breath on him.

Time for me to play Grid 2. Smiley
full member
Activity: 122
Merit: 100

that sounds pretty much BFL-ly
But times changed, the 500 ones need the rest of us to have a sweet deal
I'm not in till kncminer makes it clear who gets what when

Stop saying that the 500 needs the rest of us to have a sweet deal. That does not make sense at all.

Everyone had a fair chance to getting into the first 500 orders.

You say you don't visit the forums but it is your responsibility if you wanted the product that bad to do your own due diligence.


I trusted kncminer when I registered and subscribed to their OFFICIAL newsletter.
Now I don't. Take these 500 orders and run for the cold burgers, have luck !
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
How about some people queued but without any money, what will McDonalds treat them? Allow the sale of their slot for burger?

You don't think that hasn't happened before? Eg. Launch day of an iphone or outside Walmart on black friday?
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