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Quote from: jeroenn13 on May 31, 2013, 03:13:53 PM

Quote from: ridgeback on May 31, 2013, 03:11:46 PM

Hi all,

I'm among the first 500 at swedish miner company knc. I'm having second thoughts about this large investment. What price would you guys think I would get if I sold my order#/place in queue?

I am in the first #50. Pre orders for KNC aint worth shit.

Please check the seller's SHILL date prior to following through with any purchase.

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Quote from: ridgeback on May 31, 2013, 03:11:46 PM

Hi all,

I'm among the first 500 at swedish miner company knc. I'm having second thoughts about this large investment. What price would you guys think I would get if I sold my order#/place in queue?

Please check the seller's SHILL date prior to following through with any purchase.

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Quote from: eve on June 01, 2013, 12:40:11 PM

I may have some units available do contact me as early as possible. first come first serve. PM me please.

Eve. Now that's a nice, fresh douche-bag shill name. I bet you put a lot of thought into that one.

Yeah, she's a fast learner. She joined the forum 2 days ago, was asking neophyte questions about solo mining yesterday and now she's got some hard to get hold of hardware. A regular little Einstein. Either that or you've exposed a shill factory, Phinnaeus.

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Quote from: eve on June 01, 2013, 12:40:11 PM

I may have some units available do contact me as early as possible. first come first serve. PM me please.

Eve. Now that's a nice, fresh douche-bag shill name. I bet you put a lot of thought into that one.

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Quote from: Twh on June 01, 2013, 12:35:30 PM

Quote from: kendog77 on June 01, 2013, 10:15:49 AM

I think this is a decent policy that should apply after the original customer pays. It only takes 2 minutes to place a "pre-order" on your website, so folks that never had any intention of buying should not be financially rewarded if they don't have any skin in the game.

Make the original buyers pay to find out who is serious and purge the queue, and if they decide to sell afterwards you can help facilitate transfers.

This is a more decent way to do it, at least this filters out the small-scale speculators. There's nothing wrong with this and it actually does exactly what they want to do. I don't really understand what mental mixup made them create the system they claim to have now. By far the best is just disallowing order transfers. Buyers should be cautious when buying from others, that's the end of it, it's not the manufacturer's fault or responsibility that they weren't careful and got scammed.

In the end the core issue is that this queue exists, it doesn't make any sense.

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I may have some units available do contact me as early as possible. first come first serve. PM me please.

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Quote from: kendog77 on June 01, 2013, 10:15:49 AM

I think this is a decent policy that should apply after the original customer pays. It only takes 2 minutes to place a "pre-order" on your website, so folks that never had any intention of buying should not be financially rewarded if they don't have any skin in the game.

Make the original buyers pay to find out who is serious and purge the queue, and if they decide to sell afterwards you can help facilitate transfers.

This is a more decent way to do it, at least this filters out the small-scale speculators. There's nothing wrong with this and it actually does exactly what they want to do. I don't really understand what mental mixup made them create the system they claim to have now. By far the best is just disallowing order transfers. Buyers should be cautious when buying from others, that's the end of it, it's not the manufacturer's fault or responsibility that they weren't careful and got scammed.

In the end the core issue is that this queue exists, it doesn't make any sense.

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Quote from: kendog77 on June 01, 2013, 10:15:49 AM

Quote from: kncminer on June 01, 2013, 01:59:39 AM

Actually I think of it differently

What annoys me more than anything is people on eBay/or here selling pre orders for boxes. When the person buying has no chance of actually knowing if the box will ever arrive at his/her door because the original company doesn't allow a change of shipping address,

There is enough scamming in this industry already. I do not want to see our boxes or queue placements being used at all to scam anyone out of money and if i can spend a few minutes to fight that I will.

If this offends anyone then so be it. I would rather that than have you lose your coins to someone who claims to have a queue placement, or a full pre order who in actual fact does not.

After payments are made and the queue does indeed become longer. We know that queue trading is gong to happen and as we cant stop it the best we can do is try to make sure no one gets scammed.

Sam

I think this is a decent policy that should apply after the original customer pays. It only takes 2 minutes to place a "pre-order" on your website, so folks that never had any intention of buying should not be financially rewarded if they don't have any skin in the game.

Make the original buyers pay to find out who is serious and purge the queue, and if they decide to sell afterwards you can help facilitate transfers.

The best policy is to not mess with the orders.

User pays and gets the product (free to resell it afterwards).

User doesn't pay and the order is canceled.

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Quote from: kncminer on June 01, 2013, 01:59:39 AM

Actually I think of it differently

What annoys me more than anything is people on eBay/or here selling pre orders for boxes. When the person buying has no chance of actually knowing if the box will ever arrive at his/her door because the original company doesn't allow a change of shipping address,

There is enough scamming in this industry already. I do not want to see our boxes or queue placements being used at all to scam anyone out of money and if i can spend a few minutes to fight that I will.

If this offends anyone then so be it. I would rather that than have you lose your coins to someone who claims to have a queue placement, or a full pre order who in actual fact does not.

After payments are made and the queue does indeed become longer. We know that queue trading is gong to happen and as we cant stop it the best we can do is try to make sure no one gets scammed.

Sam

I think this is a decent policy that should apply after the original customer pays. It only takes 2 minutes to place a "pre-order" on your website, so folks that never had any intention of buying should not be financially rewarded if they don't have any skin in the game.

Make the original buyers pay to find out who is serious and purge the queue, and if they decide to sell afterwards you can help facilitate transfers.

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Quote from: dwdoc on June 01, 2013, 09:19:20 AM

I feel sorry for the next vendor that allows pre-orders. The first person that discovers it will pre-order 1000 times.

I bet you could even script a bot to register for you... 1000 times pfffff, step aside noob!

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Quote from: stripykitteh on June 01, 2013, 09:16:58 AM

Quote from: KS on June 01, 2013, 09:07:15 AM

Hey, I'm the first one to make an offer in this thread. Does that count? Can I resell my place# in the other thread? Will the OP nicely take care of the formalities for me? I'm pretty sure I would have the winning bid.

Only if I can be #2 behind you. Actually, I was thinking of starting my own thread where people can bid to be the first to respond to my post. Highest bid wins. Thinking about starting the bidding at BTC6. Any takers?

EDIT: Hey wow, it turns out that my close friends and family and my work colleagues all have pre-orders in to be the first to post in my new thread. No. 1 is my cat, but I think she'll reluctantly step aside for BTC10.

OK. I'm selling the #2 spot behind me (great idea BTW!).

Best offers please.

NB: serious buyers only!

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I feel sorry for the next vendor that allows pre-orders. The first person that discovers it will pre-order 1000 times.

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Quote from: KS on June 01, 2013, 09:07:15 AM

Hey, I'm the first one to make an offer in this thread. Does that count? Can I resell my place# in the other thread? Will the OP nicely take care of the formalities for me? I'm pretty sure I would have the winning bid.

Only if I can be #2 behind you. Actually, I was thinking of starting my own thread where people can bid to be the first to respond to my post. Highest bid wins. Thinking about starting the bidding at BTC6. Any takers?

EDIT: Hey wow, it turns out that my close friends and family and my work colleagues all have pre-orders in to be the first to post in my new thread. No. 1 is my cat, but I think she'll reluctantly step aside for BTC10.

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Hey, I'm the first one to make an offer in this thread. Does that count? Can I resell my place# in the other thread? Will the OP nicely take care of the formalities for me? I'm pretty sure I would have the winning bid.

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Here you go, start your bidding:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-222622

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Quote from: KS on June 01, 2013, 08:39:15 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on June 01, 2013, 08:09:10 AM

Here you go, start your bidding:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-222622

100 000 000 BTC (one hundred million).

wait, Is this the right thread? oh.... Embarrassed

Hmmm (thinks to himself) "Maybe I should have gone for 100 000 000 000 BTC (one hundred billion)."

100 000 000 000 BTC (one hundred billion)

There you go. Looks much better. Happy now.

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Quote from: af_newbie on June 01, 2013, 08:09:10 AM

Here you go, start your bidding:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-222622

100 000 000 BTC (one hundred million).

wait, Is this the right thread? oh.... Embarrassed

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I think his intentions were good, but he was probably a little naive and didn't really think this through. Now that all of this has been pointed out, his pride is preventing him from changing the policy. You know what they say about pride and the fall... hopefully he can come to terms with that, change the policy and move on. The people have spoken man. They are your customers. And while I realize it is not a democracy, you should view such unanimous disdain as guidance. Respect them. We don't need another prideful BFL in this world.

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Serious buyer with live cash in his hands will have to wait in line while people who put early preorder are playing their little speculative game, without actually ever investing a cent in product? And all this is supported and arranged by the company? Unbelievable...

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